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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias " So do you think we should send a ferry for them and give the safe passage to the UK and 14 isolation In hotels. | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias " agreed. and the irony that the post brexit post covid border patrols are laughable. no way they could keep their Farage induced promises or police them.. bad for business. i still want Witty to explain why he didn't insist on quarantine and checks for people coming in by air(like majority of other countries) let alone by dinghy.. always recall him saying something flippant like it wouldn't be worth it.. at what stage would it have been? d | |||
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"Has anybody else seen the amount of visitors arriving by dingy in Dover? as a regular watcher of the alternative news another 12 arrived this morning and all 12 tested positive for covid.When is this government going to put a stop to this.They are escorted into british waters by the french navy,and only 2 weeks ago we gave the french 200,000,000 to help stop this.This virus will NEVER go away if we keep letting people in with the virus." Bell...........end | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum " | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum " Spot on | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum " racism at its finest here on this thread. I do believe we should help them imagine how bad it must be in your hone country to get on a dinghy with your children when you have COVID. We are here BY LUCK! that’s all it could so easily be you or me in a dinghy. Where is your compassion when you’re switch over Netflix in your warm house while contemplating what takeaway to have tonight ... I despair | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum racism at its finest here on this thread. I do believe we should help them imagine how bad it must be in your hone country to get on a dinghy with your children when you have COVID. We are here BY LUCK! that’s all it could so easily be you or me in a dinghy. Where is your compassion when you’re switch over Netflix in your warm house while contemplating what takeaway to have tonight ... I despair " all of this, totally agree d | |||
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"Has anybody else seen the amount of visitors arriving by dingy in Dover? as a regular watcher of the alternative news another 12 arrived this morning and all 12 tested positive for covid.When is this government going to put a stop to this.They are escorted into british waters by the french navy,and only 2 weeks ago we gave the french 200,000,000 to help stop this.This virus will NEVER go away if we keep letting people in with the virus." I'm not outraged.. There will still be people desperate to escape from countries that the British or American leaders have utterly ruined..and the lesson there is stop creating wars and sending soldiers to die in foreign countries just because they have oil or mineral reserves :/ The migrants escaping to find a better life doesn't outage me its fair the UK gets its own shit brought back to its own front door to clean up properly What I am outraged at is the fact that no one seems to be able to manage that process properly for a lot of years.. There is a possibility some who might get through ( not get caught) could cause issues. However, arguably those who do get caught get vaccinated straight away so they are arguably less if a risk to the UK than at least 50 percent of its current population So not outraged at all.. Only towards the people on here wjp keep meeting and the idiots across the country who keep breaking rules.. That's really a bit more than outrageous isn't it! | |||
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"Has anybody else seen the amount of visitors arriving by dingy in Dover? as a regular watcher of the alternative news another 12 arrived this morning and all 12 tested positive for covid.When is this government going to put a stop to this.They are escorted into british waters by the french navy,and only 2 weeks ago we gave the french 200,000,000 to help stop this.This virus will NEVER go away if we keep letting people in with the virus." We need to invade and ocupy France | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias agreed. and the irony that the post brexit post covid border patrols are laughable. no way they could keep their Farage induced promises or police them.. bad for business. i still want Witty to explain why he didn't insist on quarantine and checks for people coming in by air(like majority of other countries) let alone by dinghy.. always recall him saying something flippant like it wouldn't be worth it.. at what stage would it have been? d" Immigration policy is not Chris Whitty's department. His job is to provide the Government with the medical advice required for the GOVERNMENT to make decisions (in concert with the Chief Scientific Officer, Patrick Vallance). They provide the data and the best scientific/medical interpretation. Boris' lot make the policy decisions. That's how our parliamentary democracy operates. It's the Home Secretary, Health Secretary and colleagues who you should be venting your ire at. Do you think Priti Patel is qualified to make those decisions? I'm not so sure. | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias agreed. and the irony that the post brexit post covid border patrols are laughable. no way they could keep their Farage induced promises or police them.. bad for business. i still want Witty to explain why he didn't insist on quarantine and checks for people coming in by air(like majority of other countries) let alone by dinghy.. always recall him saying something flippant like it wouldn't be worth it.. at what stage would it have been? d Immigration policy is not Chris Whitty's department. His job is to provide the Government with the medical advice required for the GOVERNMENT to make decisions (in concert with the Chief Scientific Officer, Patrick Vallance). They provide the data and the best scientific/medical interpretation. Boris' lot make the policy decisions. That's how our parliamentary democracy operates. It's the Home Secretary, Health Secretary and colleagues who you should be venting your ire at. Do you think Priti Patel is qualified to make those decisions? I'm not so sure." well yeh so makes me wonder if Witty was instructed to say what he was saying back last March. Not just.. oh well.. the virus is in we can't just lock the door. and no i don't think Priti is qualified d | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias agreed. and the irony that the post brexit post covid border patrols are laughable. no way they could keep their Farage induced promises or police them.. bad for business. i still want Witty to explain why he didn't insist on quarantine and checks for people coming in by air(like majority of other countries) let alone by dinghy.. always recall him saying something flippant like it wouldn't be worth it.. at what stage would it have been? d Immigration policy is not Chris Whitty's department. His job is to provide the Government with the medical advice required for the GOVERNMENT to make decisions (in concert with the Chief Scientific Officer, Patrick Vallance). They provide the data and the best scientific/medical interpretation. Boris' lot make the policy decisions. That's how our parliamentary democracy operates. It's the Home Secretary, Health Secretary and colleagues who you should be venting your ire at. Do you think Priti Patel is qualified to make those decisions? I'm not so sure. well yeh so makes me wonder if Witty was instructed to say what he was saying back last March. Not just.. oh well.. the virus is in we can't just lock the door. and no i don't think Priti is qualified d" I'm sure Whitty's words in March 2020 were tempered by the message the Government wanted to give. He'd have gone the same way as Prof. Nutt if he strayed too far away. That's a shame because he's supposed to be impartial. I'm certain he gives advice impartially to the Govt but what is said in public is to some extent pre agreed (ditto for all the advisers). | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias " Wow only two posts in and someone played the racist card ,well done | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias Wow only two posts in and someone played the racist card ,well done" well it only took a grand total of 1 post for the OP to show his bias | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias Wow only two posts in and someone played the racist card ,well done So he has an opinion on something involving immigration which you dont agree with so he must be racist, right ? well it only took a grand total of 1 post for the OP to show his bias " | |||
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"So he has an opinion on something involving immigration which you dont agree with so he must be racist, right ?" no he masked an immigration issue as a covid issue , to dress up the fact he has a problem with asylum seekers | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias Wow only two posts in and someone played the racist card ,well done" Calling it a, ' card' makes it look like it's a bit of fun doesn't it? .. It isn't fun.. fact is the OP from Burnley ( where they have regrettably far too many attendees from there at EDL meetings and the other Contributor from Hastings adopting a similar defence toward ' them' in Dinghies .. Not on! Those are Racist comments whether veiled or not.. And no place for that or the people who do that sort of thing anywhere in this world. It always needs calling out and dealing with whenever it happens.. | |||
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"To be fair, the number of people who arrive in the uk via "non-standard methods" such as fishing boats and dinghies is relatively tiny. Comparing the couple of thousand a year that arrive this way to the 67 million that live in the country shows that they are really a drop in the ocean. Ultimately the only way that things get better is by creating immunity in all areas of the world. There SHOULD be a vaccination project targeted at the Refugee camps around the world (including Calais) to help. It also makes sense that the countries who have the resources should be assisting in vaccinating the people in poorer areas... it helps to protect us too. Cal" Yes. Let's take this opportunity to see that we're all human, and the desperation which underpins legally irregular migration. The OP and these refugees are of equal value as humans. Let's all stand together as humanity and help one another | |||
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"To be fair, the number of people who arrive in the uk via "non-standard methods" such as fishing boats and dinghies is relatively tiny. Comparing the couple of thousand a year that arrive this way to the 67 million that live in the country shows that they are really a drop in the ocean. Ultimately the only way that things get better is by creating immunity in all areas of the world. There SHOULD be a vaccination project targeted at the Refugee camps around the world (including Calais) to help. It also makes sense that the countries who have the resources should be assisting in vaccinating the people in poorer areas... it helps to protect us too. Cal -------- Yes. Let's take this opportunity to see that we're all human, and the desperation which underpins legally irregular migration. The OP and these refugees are of equal value as humans. Let's all stand together as humanity and help one another " Well said Cal | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum racism at its finest here on this thread. I do believe we should help them imagine how bad it must be in your hone country to get on a dinghy with your children when you have COVID. We are here BY LUCK! that’s all it could so easily be you or me in a dinghy. Where is your compassion when you’re switch over Netflix in your warm house while contemplating what takeaway to have tonight ... I despair " Sorry but France is not there home country. Lots however are now leaving as they ate realise the grass is not greener on the other side of the chanel. But for me the coast of one ferry to get them and test them must be better then. 1. Then risking there life. 2. Not testing them. 3. Then paying money criminals. Don't know how we house them as the homeless should come first but no one should be pushed to a point where they risk their life. | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum racism at its finest here on this thread. I do believe we should help them imagine how bad it must be in your hone country to get on a dinghy with your children when you have COVID. We are here BY LUCK! that’s all it could so easily be you or me in a dinghy. Where is your compassion when you’re switch over Netflix in your warm house while contemplating what takeaway to have tonight ... I despair Sorry but France is not there home country. Lots however are now leaving as they ate realise the grass is not greener on the other side of the chanel. But for me the coast of one ferry to get them and test them must be better then. 1. Then risking there life. 2. Not testing them. 3. Then paying money criminals. Don't know how we house them as the homeless should come first but no one should be pushed to a point where they risk their life. " i think we should help people who have arrived here and we should participate in official channels for resettlement of asylum seekers, if they are in our waters in danger i think its also right to step in for their safety if we can, i also think its madness to segregate asylum seekers once here by not allowing them to properly participate in society by getting jobs etc - its just damaging all round - people moan about the cost but thats partly on us and the rules we have imposed but to start sending out ferries to collect people voluntarily i think sets a bad precedent and would realistically just encourage the criminal activity since people would believe they only have to make it so far then the UK would do the rest for them completely agree with the points about vaccinations programmes in refugee camps though | |||
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"They arent asylum seekers they are economic migrants" can you explain what you mean by this? i thought with avoiding the news and media i had missed a terminology change and said something offensive? but an immigration advice website i just checked still refers to asylum seekers | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum racism at its finest here on this thread. I do believe we should help them imagine how bad it must be in your hone country to get on a dinghy with your children when you have COVID. We are here BY LUCK! that’s all it could so easily be you or me in a dinghy. Where is your compassion when you’re switch over Netflix in your warm house while contemplating what takeaway to have tonight ... I despair Sorry but France is not there home country. Lots however are now leaving as they ate realise the grass is not greener on the other side of the chanel. But for me the coast of one ferry to get them and test them must be better then. 1. Then risking there life. 2. Not testing them. 3. Then paying money criminals. Don't know how we house them as the homeless should come first but no one should be pushed to a point where they risk their life. i think we should help people who have arrived here and we should participate in official channels for resettlement of asylum seekers, if they are in our waters in danger i think its also right to step in for their safety if we can, i also think its madness to segregate asylum seekers once here by not allowing them to properly participate in society by getting jobs etc - its just damaging all round - people moan about the cost but thats partly on us and the rules we have imposed but to start sending out ferries to collect people voluntarily i think sets a bad precedent and would realistically just encourage the criminal activity since people would believe they only have to make it so far then the UK would do the rest for them completely agree with the points about vaccinations programmes in refugee camps though " Wow I have even spit your opinion You do know that migrants now get no help from the UK No housing, no access to NHS etc. We had one camping at the land be hind us he would leave bottles out to be filled with water I ended up running a hose pipe out to him. But in January he said he was going back to France as it cost to much to live hear. If crimanalls are macking money supplying small unsafe boats at least that we can stop asap | |||
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"They arent asylum seekers they are economic migrants can you explain what you mean by this? i thought with avoiding the news and media i had missed a terminology change and said something offensive? but an immigration advice website i just checked still refers to asylum seekers " By international law asylum seekers HAVE to claim asylum in the first safe country they come to, that is not the UK thus they then become illegal immigrants( to be fair to france they are illegal immigrants there too) a kinder word us to call them economic migrants. | |||
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"They arent asylum seekers they are economic migrants" That £39.63 per week asylum seekers allowance is highly attractive. | |||
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"They arent asylum seekers they are economic migrants That £39.63 per week asylum seekers allowance is highly attractive. " It's more than they get in france and most will try and work illegally anyway, however that is not the point, they are safe in France and if they wish to come here they should apply through the proper channels. | |||
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"They arent asylum seekers they are economic migrants can you explain what you mean by this? i thought with avoiding the news and media i had missed a terminology change and said something offensive? but an immigration advice website i just checked still refers to asylum seekers " asylum has to / should be applied for in the first county you enter so I do agree lots are economic migrants but once hear most are finding it really hard now no home money or job. You now have to prove you can work legally in the UK. So it is now harder for them to work apart.from for cash ( another post ) | |||
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"They arent asylum seekers they are economic migrants can you explain what you mean by this? i thought with avoiding the news and media i had missed a terminology change and said something offensive? but an immigration advice website i just checked still refers to asylum seekers asylum has to / should be applied for in the first county you enter so I do agree lots are economic migrants but once hear most are finding it really hard now no home money or job. You now have to prove you can work legally in the UK. So it is now harder for them to work apart.from for cash ( another post )" That is just not correct. Here is some text copied from Amnesty International's website. "There is no legal requirement for a refugee to claim asylum in any particular country. Neither the 1951 Refugee Convention nor EU law requires a refugee to claim asylum in one country rather than another. There is no rule requiring refugees to claim in the first safe country in which they arrive" Cal | |||
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"my understanding is while you are in the system you get help? granted its pretty much like being in prison with the freedoms you are granted snd not saying i agree with that - the opposite actually, if we are to allow people to come and ask for asylum lets allow them to settle snd build a life properly and become part of society i think the person you refer to must have been here illegally if he was camping out , he presumably either avoided the proper channels or had gone through them and had his claim rejected " He was working so don't think illegal but on minnamal wage and no money could not get the deposit for a flat or any home. England is becoming less attractive to them and that is the key. They use to get housing and benefit and NHS but it's now 2 years I think before they get anything. And if on a 40 hour week only on £350 a week to feed cloth and save for then pay for accommodation | |||
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"They arent asylum seekers they are economic migrants can you explain what you mean by this? i thought with avoiding the news and media i had missed a terminology change and said something offensive? but an immigration advice website i just checked still refers to asylum seekers asylum has to / should be applied for in the first county you enter so I do agree lots are economic migrants but once hear most are finding it really hard now no home money or job. You now have to prove you can work legally in the UK. So it is now harder for them to work apart.from for cash ( another post ) That is just not correct. Here is some text copied from Amnesty International's website. "There is no legal requirement for a refugee to claim asylum in any particular country. Neither the 1951 Refugee Convention nor EU law requires a refugee to claim asylum in one country rather than another. There is no rule requiring refugees to claim in the first safe country in which they arrive" Cal" Ok thank you for that so do asylums get more help. | |||
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"Funny how this isn't about Covid. Huh. Who saw that coming" Now I feel like I have hi jacket the post sorry | |||
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"my understanding is while you are in the system you get help? granted its pretty much like being in prison with the freedoms you are granted snd not saying i agree with that - the opposite actually, if we are to allow people to come and ask for asylum lets allow them to settle snd build a life properly and become part of society i think the person you refer to must have been here illegally if he was camping out , he presumably either avoided the proper channels or had gone through them and had his claim rejected He was working so don't think illegal but on minnamal wage and no money could not get the deposit for a flat or any home. England is becoming less attractive to them and that is the key. They use to get housing and benefit and NHS but it's now 2 years I think before they get anything. And if on a 40 hour week only on £350 a week to feed cloth and save for then pay for accommodation " i might be wrong - garbage memory and google wont have the answers anymore because we are no longer part of the EU but thats sounds like the rules that were applicable to people who had settled from within the EU using the legal right to live or work where you want - and rightly so those people should still be able to support themselves before upping and settling somewhere else voluntarily - this is why a time threshold was put in place so that people would only move while they could support themselves rather than for another countries benefits , but then once settled, if they fell on hard times they would be eligible just like any other citizen just as fyi , with the housing thing this also happens with uk residents - homeless support is managed by local councils and if up turn up in a council district to which you have no ties and register as homeless they will send you back to where you came from most of the time , there are exceptions though for things like fleeing from violence this thread conversation was based around people seeking asylum and the rules are different, they will be fed and housed while their application is processed and will continue to be supported if their applications is successful (not saying the levels are sufficient) . the terms of asylum dont grant you to work for a period of time either | |||
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"Funny how this isn't about Covid. Huh. Who saw that coming Now I feel like I have hi jacket the post sorry " oh i wouldnt worry , it was never about covid even from the OP | |||
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"Funny how this isn't about Covid. Huh. Who saw that coming Now I feel like I have hi jacket the post sorry oh i wouldnt worry , it was never about covid even from the OP " Indeed | |||
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"Has anybody else seen the amount of visitors arriving by dingy in Dover? as a regular watcher of the alternative news another 12 arrived this morning and all 12 tested positive for covid.When is this government going to put a stop to this.They are escorted into british waters by the french navy,and only 2 weeks ago we gave the french 200,000,000 to help stop this.This virus will NEVER go away if we keep letting people in with the virus." What's the alternative news? | |||
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"They arent asylum seekers they are economic migrants can you explain what you mean by this? i thought with avoiding the news and media i had missed a terminology change and said something offensive? but an immigration advice website i just checked still refers to asylum seekers asylum has to / should be applied for in the first county you enter so I do agree lots are economic migrants but once hear most are finding it really hard now no home money or job. You now have to prove you can work legally in the UK. So it is now harder for them to work apart.from for cash ( another post ) That is just not correct. Here is some text copied from Amnesty International's website. "There is no legal requirement for a refugee to claim asylum in any particular country. Neither the 1951 Refugee Convention nor EU law requires a refugee to claim asylum in one country rather than another. There is no rule requiring refugees to claim in the first safe country in which they arrive" Cal ------- Ok thank you for that so do asylums get more help." If someone is Granted Asylum, then they are permitted to stay in the country & gain the rights of other residents including the right to work, access to the NHS & Welfare. Around 80% of applications are denied & the applicants must leave the country. Cal | |||
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"To be fair, the number of people who arrive in the uk via "non-standard methods" such as fishing boats and dinghies is relatively tiny. Comparing the couple of thousand a year that arrive this way to the 67 million that live in the country shows that they are really a drop in the ocean. Ultimately the only way that things get better is by creating immunity in all areas of the world. There SHOULD be a vaccination project targeted at the Refugee camps around the world (including Calais) to help. It also makes sense that the countries who have the resources should be assisting in vaccinating the people in poorer areas... it helps to protect us too. Cal" well said, you have my vote. | |||
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"Let's deal with the log in our airports before the specks in dinghies, with apologies to Jesus" Dont worry Nigel and his binoculars is on the case | |||
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"Let's deal with the log in our airports before the specks in dinghies, with apologies to Jesus Dont worry Nigel and his binoculars is on the case " What, looking for the specks? Lol | |||
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"Let's deal with the log in our airports before the specks in dinghies, with apologies to Jesus Dont worry Nigel and his binoculars is on the case What, looking for the specks? Lol" Grassng up any fleeing refugees and keeping us safe. Gawd bless him I'm curious about this alternative news channel where this must be the no 1 story | |||
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"Let's deal with the log in our airports before the specks in dinghies, with apologies to Jesus Dont worry Nigel and his binoculars is on the case What, looking for the specks? Lol Grassng up any fleeing refugees and keeping us safe. Gawd bless him I'm curious about this alternative news channel where this must be the no 1 story " Lol The quote is from the gospels, something like, don't point out the speck in your brother's eye before you deal with the log in your own. (On pointing out another's sins) So... Not interested in the specks in dinghies, while we have logs (forests?) in our airports | |||
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"They arent asylum seekers they are economic migrants can you explain what you mean by this? i thought with avoiding the news and media i had missed a terminology change and said something offensive? but an immigration advice website i just checked still refers to asylum seekers asylum has to / should be applied for in the first county you enter so I do agree lots are economic migrants but once hear most are finding it really hard now no home money or job. You now have to prove you can work legally in the UK. So it is now harder for them to work apart.from for cash ( another post ) That is just not correct. Here is some text copied from Amnesty International's website. "There is no legal requirement for a refugee to claim asylum in any particular country. Neither the 1951 Refugee Convention nor EU law requires a refugee to claim asylum in one country rather than another. There is no rule requiring refugees to claim in the first safe country in which they arrive" Cal" That is not the whole story, the dublin II agreement affirms the principle of the genrva convention that has become standard accepted practice that asylum seekers claim asylum in the first safe country, if they dont then they can be returned to that safe country | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder " Kent? | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder " The part of the country with rates over 1000 per 100,000 people at the time. Exactly where you'd expect. A transit point for thousands of truckers and people legitimately moving between continental Europe and here. | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder The part of the country with rates over 1000 per 100,000 people at the time. Exactly where you'd expect. A transit point for thousands of truckers and people legitimately moving between continental Europe and here." Sshhh there are immigrants to be blamed here | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder " Kent. Hope this helps. | |||
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"Are we missing something,?" Nope. We've established that the Kent variant originated in......Kent. I think that's pretty clear | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps." Which is in dover | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum Are you saying you are ok with some people bringing covid in, but not others? " We're saying the only way to remove instances of importing new Covid from outside was to close the borders entirely. It's a bit late for that now really. The tiny handful of dinghy sailors rocking up on the south coast etc are a miniscule drop in a tidal wave of incoming people from here, there and everywhere. It's irrelevant who they are or where they're from when it comes to controlling the virus. | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum Are you saying you are ok with some people bringing covid in, but not others? " nope , i was saying the original post really had nothing to do with covid | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover" I'm sorry..what is the point you are trying to make? Are loads of people who live in Dover prone to this new variant,? Does boris know? | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover" Which is in England. They call it the English or British variant, overseas. It's so very British. We should be proud. | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover" It's the other way around. Dover is in Kent Are you aware of what Dover is, in terms of international travel? | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum Are you saying you are ok with some people bringing covid in, but not others? We're saying the only way to remove instances of importing new Covid from outside was to close the borders entirely. It's a bit late for that now really. The tiny handful of dinghy sailors rocking up on the south coast etc are a miniscule drop in a tidal wave of incoming people from here, there and everywhere. It's irrelevant who they are or where they're from when it comes to controlling the virus." Specks and logs | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover I'm sorry..what is the point you are trying to make? Are loads of people who live in Dover prone to this new variant,? Does boris know? I agree with the op" So it's the illegal immigrants bringing it over? | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries...." I was hoping I pitched that comment with the right level of sarcasm. | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover I'm sorry..what is the point you are trying to make? Are loads of people who live in Dover prone to this new variant,? Does boris know? I agree with the op So it's the illegal immigrants bringing it over?" Maybe certainly doesn’t help the situation | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries.... I was hoping I pitched that comment with the right level of sarcasm. " You did, hence my Victor Meldrew thingy. Hard to get tone of voice across | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries...." Does that nice ms patel still want to stick them on an island in the middle of the Atlantic? It's quite weird because when she is mentioned in the politics forum she is defended by all and sundry. People eh. | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries.... Does that nice ms patel still want to stick them on an island in the middle of the Atlantic? It's quite weird because when she is mentioned in the politics forum she is defended by all and sundry. People eh." Learning from Australia again are we? | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries.... Does that nice ms patel still want to stick them on an island in the middle of the Atlantic? It's quite weird because when she is mentioned in the politics forum she is defended by all and sundry. People eh. Learning from Australia again are we? " It was 1 of her bright ideas She also raised the possibility of using royal navy ships to catch them. Like I said thiugh she is quite popular on the politics forum. | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries.... I was hoping I pitched that comment with the right level of sarcasm. oh thank god ! i was just about to ask if this was true after all the parody threads today im finding if hard to tell the difference lol " https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/11/home-office-considers-using-nets-to-stop-migrant-boats-crossing-channel | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover I'm sorry..what is the point you are trying to make? Are loads of people who live in Dover prone to this new variant,? Does boris know? I agree with the op So it's the illegal immigrants bringing it over? Maybe certainly doesn’t help the situation Dont they get banged up in secure units when they get here?" So we are told but who knows you believe this government | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias Wow only two posts in and someone played the racist card ,well done well it only took a grand total of 1 post for the OP to show his bias " Obviously your not bothered about the covid situation,but i am.You probably dont work for a living either so dont pay tax to house and clothe and feed these migrants that get a free house etc etc.Well i am. | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover I'm sorry..what is the point you are trying to make? Are loads of people who live in Dover prone to this new variant,? Does boris know? I agree with the op So it's the illegal immigrants bringing it over? Maybe certainly doesn’t help the situation Dont they get banged up in secure units when they get here? So we are told but who knows you believe this government " So you think the gmnt just let them run free once they get her? | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias Wow only two posts in and someone played the racist card ,well done well it only took a grand total of 1 post for the OP to show his bias Obviously your not bothered about the covid situation,but i am.You probably dont work for a living either so dont pay tax to house and clothe and feed these migrants that get a free house etc etc.Well i am." This should be good Do they all get a free house? | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias Wow only two posts in and someone played the racist card ,well done well it only took a grand total of 1 post for the OP to show his bias Obviously your not bothered about the covid situation,but i am.You probably dont work for a living either so dont pay tax to house and clothe and feed these migrants that get a free house etc etc.Well i am." Excuse me while I try and stop myself laughing. We've both worked throughout this pandemic, pay our taxes etc, thank you very much. | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias Wow only two posts in and someone played the racist card ,well done well it only took a grand total of 1 post for the OP to show his bias Obviously your not bothered about the covid situation,but i am.You probably dont work for a living either so dont pay tax to house and clothe and feed these migrants that get a free house etc etc.Well i am." dude i hate to burst your bubble but im a high rate tax payer that works about 60 hours a week and hasnt seen another person since christmas day because im so concerned about covid ... what you got next? | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover I'm sorry..what is the point you are trying to make? Are loads of people who live in Dover prone to this new variant,? Does boris know? I agree with the op So it's the illegal immigrants bringing it over? Maybe certainly doesn’t help the situation Dont they get banged up in secure units when they get here? So we are told but who knows you believe this government So you think the gmnt just let them run free once they get her?" Wouldn’t surprise me | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover I'm sorry..what is the point you are trying to make? Are loads of people who live in Dover prone to this new variant,? Does boris know? I agree with the op So it's the illegal immigrants bringing it over? Maybe certainly doesn’t help the situation Dont they get banged up in secure units when they get here? So we are told but who knows you believe this government So you think the gmnt just let them run free once they get her? Wouldn’t surprise me " But you have no evidence of that? | |||
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"To be fair once they do get here, I think it's a bit rich for them to be given food. Maybe we should have a hunger games tournament and the winner gets a big mac" They shouldn’t be in the country glad you find it amusing | |||
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"To be fair once they do get here, I think it's a bit rich for them to be given food. Maybe we should have a hunger games tournament and the winner gets a big mac They shouldn’t be in the country glad you find it amusing " Who? All of them? | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover I'm sorry..what is the point you are trying to make? Are loads of people who live in Dover prone to this new variant,? Does boris know? I agree with the op So it's the illegal immigrants bringing it over? Maybe certainly doesn’t help the situation Dont they get banged up in secure units when they get here? So we are told but who knows you believe this government So you think the gmnt just let them run free once they get her? Wouldn’t surprise me " Yes, I'm sure once they land ashore, the Border Force people just say "run, run free dinghy people" and the dinghy people migrate across the land, spreading new variants in their wake. Sounds really plausible | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum Are you saying you are ok with some people bringing covid in, but not others? nope , i was saying the original post really had nothing to do with covid" I thought he said all of them had covid So how is that nothing to do with covid | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries.... Does that nice ms patel still want to stick them on an island in the middle of the Atlantic? It's quite weird because when she is mentioned in the politics forum she is defended by all and sundry. People eh. Learning from Australia again are we? It was 1 of her bright ideas She also raised the possibility of using royal navy ships to catch them. Like I said thiugh she is quite popular on the politics forum." Not with me. Dreadful woman. | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries.... Does that nice ms patel still want to stick them on an island in the middle of the Atlantic? It's quite weird because when she is mentioned in the politics forum she is defended by all and sundry. People eh. Learning from Australia again are we? It was 1 of her bright ideas She also raised the possibility of using royal navy ships to catch them. Like I said thiugh she is quite popular on the politics forum. Not with me. Dreadful woman." She has quite a fan club on the politics forum. | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum Are you saying you are ok with some people bringing covid in, but not others? nope , i was saying the original post really had nothing to do with covid I thought he said all of them had covid So how is that nothing to do with covid " have a look at his follow up posts later on ... it was a dig at asylum seekers thinly veiled as outrage at 12 new cases of covid - i just happened to spot it in post 1 | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries.... Does that nice ms patel still want to stick them on an island in the middle of the Atlantic? It's quite weird because when she is mentioned in the politics forum she is defended by all and sundry. People eh. Learning from Australia again are we? It was 1 of her bright ideas She also raised the possibility of using royal navy ships to catch them. Like I said thiugh she is quite popular on the politics forum. Not with me. Dreadful woman." An atrocious specimen of our race | |||
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"Has anybody else seen the amount of visitors arriving by dingy in Dover? as a regular watcher of the alternative news another 12 arrived this morning and all 12 tested positive for covid.When is this government going to put a stop to this.They are escorted into british waters by the french navy,and only 2 weeks ago we gave the french 200,000,000 to help stop this.This virus will NEVER go away if we keep letting people in with the virus." Your quote about all 12 of them having Covid-19 came from that we'll known philanthropist, Nigel Farage, didn't it? Look at the Home Office Twitter feed and you will see that they corrected Mr Farage to say that, actually, none of them tested positive. You should be more selective about which racists you choose to believe. | |||
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"Has anybody else seen the amount of visitors arriving by dingy in Dover? as a regular watcher of the alternative news another 12 arrived this morning and all 12 tested positive for covid.When is this government going to put a stop to this.They are escorted into british waters by the french navy,and only 2 weeks ago we gave the french 200,000,000 to help stop this.This virus will NEVER go away if we keep letting people in with the virus. Your quote about all 12 of them having Covid-19 came from that we'll known philanthropist, Nigel Farage, didn't it? Look at the Home Office Twitter feed and you will see that they corrected Mr Farage to say that, actually, none of them tested positive. You should be more selective about which racists you choose to believe." And there we have it. Misinformation multiplied and never questioned by the OP. Thanks for this clarification which is very helpful | |||
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"Where did the kent variant come from I wonder Kent. Hope this helps. Which is in dover I'm sorry..what is the point you are trying to make? Are loads of people who live in Dover prone to this new variant,? Does boris know? I agree with the op So it's the illegal immigrants bringing it over? Maybe certainly doesn’t help the situation Dont they get banged up in secure units when they get here? So we are told but who knows you believe this government So you think the gmnt just let them run free once they get her? Wouldn’t surprise me Yes, I'm sure once they land ashore, the Border Force people just say "run, run free dinghy people" and the dinghy people migrate across the land, spreading new variants in their wake. Sounds really plausible " | |||
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"Has anybody else seen the amount of visitors arriving by dingy in Dover? as a regular watcher of the alternative news another 12 arrived this morning and all 12 tested positive for covid.When is this government going to put a stop to this.They are escorted into british waters by the french navy,and only 2 weeks ago we gave the french 200,000,000 to help stop this.This virus will NEVER go away if we keep letting people in with the virus. Your quote about all 12 of them having Covid-19 came from that we'll known philanthropist, Nigel Farage, didn't it? Look at the Home Office Twitter feed and you will see that they corrected Mr Farage to say that, actually, none of them tested positive. You should be more selective about which racists you choose to believe." Isnt He a little sweetie? Makes you proud to be British | |||
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"I see the home office have confirmed that none of the 12 tested positive for covid. Sorry to piss on the racist parade " Sadly I dont think facts will change the way people think I do wonder where there attitudes come from?(hostility towards people fleeing a war zone) Sutely it's not the papers? | |||
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"I haven't read the whole thread and frankly can't be arsed to trawl through it. But on thing I noticed in the opening post and may have been missed. People coming in via ferry, planes and the like are easier to monitor and police. Whereas people arriving by a small boat illegally there's no way to monitor them not only from a covid standpoint but many other things also. That's all I'm saying on this subject I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone. Just wanted to point this out. I'm going to back out slowly and close the door gently." I think the channel is quite well monitored myself... | |||
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"where did i say that? but if someone is outraged at 12 folk in a dinghy bringing covid to the uk but not about the people pouring into airports from non red countries, well dress it up how you like but the problem isnt really the covid is it... its the fact they are on a dinghy seeking asylum " From france ... | |||
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"I see the home office have confirmed that none of the 12 tested positive for covid. Sorry to piss on the racist parade Sadly I dont think facts will change the way people think I do wonder where there attitudes come from?(hostility towards people fleeing a war zone) Sutely it's not the papers?" Fleeing a warzone???? I was under the impression they were coming in from france.i know calais is a bit of a shit tip but i wouldnt call it a warzone | |||
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"Don’t worry OP Priti Patel has just purchased a new bit of kit to foul the propellers of these craft. Presumably to leave them humanely stranded at sea in one of the worlds busiest shipping lanes. That should make you feel a little safer That'll teach 'em *Victor Meldrew style fist shaking* It's what every civilised country should aspire to, watching desperate people run over by P&O Ferries.... Does that nice ms patel still want to stick them on an island in the middle of the Atlantic? It's quite weird because when she is mentioned in the politics forum she is defended by all and sundry. People eh. Learning from Australia again are we? It was 1 of her bright ideas She also raised the possibility of using royal navy ships to catch them. Like I said thiugh she is quite popular on the politics forum. Not with me. Dreadful woman. She has quite a fan club on the politics forum." As a top contributor on the politics section I can't remember her ever being mentioned, ah well | |||
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"I see the home office have confirmed that none of the 12 tested positive for covid. Sorry to piss on the racist parade Sadly I dont think facts will change the way people think I do wonder where there attitudes come from?(hostility towards people fleeing a war zone) Sutely it's not the papers?" Indeed! Agree with u for once lional! X | |||
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"I see the home office have confirmed that none of the 12 tested positive for covid. Sorry to piss on the racist parade Sadly I dont think facts will change the way people think I do wonder where there attitudes come from?(hostility towards people fleeing a war zone) Sutely it's not the papers?" 1 they're not fleeing a war zone there in France. 2 the government admit only 1 in 5 are picked up. So the problem not rasict but safety for our health and security. | |||
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"I see the home office have confirmed that none of the 12 tested positive for covid. Sorry to piss on the racist parade Sadly I dont think facts will change the way people think I do wonder where there attitudes come from?(hostility towards people fleeing a war zone) Sutely it's not the papers?1 they're not fleeing a war zone there in France. 2 the government admit only 1 in 5 are picked up. So the problem not rasict but safety for our health and security. " What has it got to do with COVID? | |||
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"Can't have these illegal in dinghy coming here with their BBC to steal jobs and women." Lots are white and I don't no if cocks are getting meshed we should not let the big ones in.. | |||
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"Can't have these illegal in dinghy coming here with their BBC to steal jobs and women. Lots are white and I don't no if cocks are getting meshed we should not let the big ones in.." I am ok if they let in the ones with smaller cocks than mine | |||
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"Can't have these illegal in dinghy coming here with their BBC to steal jobs and women." lmao brilliant. | |||
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"Can't have these illegal in dinghy coming here with their BBC to steal jobs and women." BBC? We have enough mainstream media rotting brains here already! | |||
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"Can't have these illegal in dinghy coming here with their BBC to steal jobs and women. BBC? We have enough mainstream media rotting brains here already! " | |||
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"have a google how many people are coming into the country via port or airports daily and then maybe rethink your level of concern over 12 in a dinghy - better yet maybe admit and deal to your racist bias Wow only two posts in and someone played the racist card ,well done well it only took a grand total of 1 post for the OP to show his bias " | |||
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