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By *lda OP   Couple
over a year ago

sutton Coldfield

Keep hearing about vaccine passports, and reason for not having them. The issue of unfairness to those who cannot have it keeps cropping up.

A bit of an Internet search is quite unclear, so apart from pregnant women, does anyone know who cannot have it, and what sort of proportion of the population that is?

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

I don't think anyone gets a choice if they get the virus , only take steps to mitigate it

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By *lda OP   Couple
over a year ago

sutton Coldfield

I meant who cannot have the vaccine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman
over a year ago

lancashire


"Keep hearing about vaccine passports, and reason for not having them. The issue of unfairness to those who cannot have it keeps cropping up.

A bit of an Internet search is quite unclear, so apart from pregnant women, does anyone know who cannot have it, and what sort of proportion of the population that is?"

I think people with severe bad reactions to things cannot have the vaccine...you know people that have a bad reaction to nuts etc..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Pregnant women, the advice is changing.

It'll be medical contraindications that will be specific and likely rare.

Different vaccines: people with egg allergy can't have flu shots, for example.

Flu again: a close family member of mine had a catastrophic reaction (one in a million or less, the flu carries a much higher risk of this reaction) to a flu jab. He doesn't get the flu shot anymore.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Pregnant women can have it, it's recommended if the woman has conditions which put her at risk. Ditto for breastfeeding women. The JCVI have updated guidance.

U16s can't have either of the two vaccines available in the UK, at least for the time being.

People with severe anaphylaxis are advised to have the Oxford vaccine rather than the Pfizer-BioNTech one but are not wholly excluded.

People on some types of biological treatments are advised to have it in windows between treatment (ditto for chemotherapy).

People who have known allergies to the ingredients of the vaccines are obviously advised not to have it, but there's actually very little to be allergic to.

There's not very many people for whom neither of the vaccines are recommended at all.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Keep hearing about vaccine passports, and reason for not having them. The issue of unfairness to those who cannot have it keeps cropping up.

A bit of an Internet search is quite unclear, so apart from pregnant women, does anyone know who cannot have it, and what sort of proportion of the population that is?

I think people with severe bad reactions to things cannot have the vaccine...you know people that have a bad reaction to nuts etc..

"

I've heard that those who've had previous anaphylactic reactions can't have Pfizer but can have Astrozenica

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"I meant who cannot have the vaccine"
sorry I miss read it , I think certain patients with cancer and undergoing treatment and some immune disorders too

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment "
hope it all goes well

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Neither of the vaccines in use in the UK are live virus vaccines, so anyone who has contraindications to live virus vaccines should be able to have one or other (assuming they have no other contraindications).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment hope it all goes well"

Healthy tax payers under 50 won’t get it until July, which poses the question. Why did we lockdown this group in the first place?

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment "

I didn’t think either was a ‘live’ vaccine, I could of course be wrong..and obviously if that is your given advice then you will of course stick to it. Safe than sorry.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Pregnant women can have it, it's recommended if the woman has conditions which put her at risk. Ditto for breastfeeding women. The JCVI have updated guidance.

U16s can't have either of the two vaccines available in the UK, at least for the time being.

People with severe anaphylaxis are advised to have the Oxford vaccine rather than the Pfizer-BioNTech one but are not wholly excluded.

People on some types of biological treatments are advised to have it in windows between treatment (ditto for chemotherapy).

People who have known allergies to the ingredients of the vaccines are obviously advised not to have it, but there's actually very little to be allergic to.

There's not very many people for whom neither of the vaccines are recommended at all."

Or, listen to this and ignore me

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By *lda OP   Couple
over a year ago

sutton Coldfield


"Pregnant women can have it, it's recommended if the woman has conditions which put her at risk. Ditto for breastfeeding women. The JCVI have updated guidance.

U16s can't have either of the two vaccines available in the UK, at least for the time being.

People with severe anaphylaxis are advised to have the Oxford vaccine rather than the Pfizer-BioNTech one but are not wholly excluded.

People on some types of biological treatments are advised to have it in windows between treatment (ditto for chemotherapy).

People who have known allergies to the ingredients of the vaccines are obviously advised not to have it, but there's actually very little to be allergic to.

There's not very many people for whom neither of the vaccines are recommended at all."

Thanks. That sort of what I’d gathered. So it’s unlikely to be a huge proportion of people who are medically unable to have it

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment hope it all goes well

Healthy tax payers under 50 won’t get it until July, which poses the question. Why did we lockdown this group in the first place? "

Because taxpayers (and non taxpayers!) can spread the disease.

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By *exy Pretty FeetCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"Pregnant women can have it, it's recommended if the woman has conditions which put her at risk. Ditto for breastfeeding women. The JCVI have updated guidance.

U16s can't have either of the two vaccines available in the UK, at least for the time being.

People with severe anaphylaxis are advised to have the Oxford vaccine rather than the Pfizer-BioNTech one but are not wholly excluded.

People on some types of biological treatments are advised to have it in windows between treatment (ditto for chemotherapy).

People who have known allergies to the ingredients of the vaccines are obviously advised not to have it, but there's actually very little to be allergic to.

There's not very many people for whom neither of the vaccines are recommended at all.

Thanks. That sort of what I’d gathered. So it’s unlikely to be a huge proportion of people who are medically unable to have it"

Except at the moment there is no covid vaccine licenced for use in under 16s

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment hope it all goes well

Healthy tax payers under 50 won’t get it until July, which poses the question. Why did we lockdown this group in the first place?

Because taxpayers (and non taxpayers!) can spread the disease."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment

I didn’t think either was a ‘live’ vaccine, I could of course be wrong..and obviously if that is your given advice then you will of course stick to it. Safe than sorry."

He can't get it as it does have side effects which may have adverse reactions especially to someone with no immune system

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment

I didn’t think either was a ‘live’ vaccine, I could of course be wrong..and obviously if that is your given advice then you will of course stick to it. Safe than sorry.

He can't get it as it does have side effects which may have adverse reactions especially to someone with no immune system "

Of course, I was not questioning the not having, anyone with compromised immunity must be careful, I was possibly being misinformed about live vaccine, I did not mean to question or offend.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Pregnant women can have it, it's recommended if the woman has conditions which put her at risk. Ditto for breastfeeding women. The JCVI have updated guidance.

U16s can't have either of the two vaccines available in the UK, at least for the time being.

People with severe anaphylaxis are advised to have the Oxford vaccine rather than the Pfizer-BioNTech one but are not wholly excluded.

People on some types of biological treatments are advised to have it in windows between treatment (ditto for chemotherapy).

People who have known allergies to the ingredients of the vaccines are obviously advised not to have it, but there's actually very little to be allergic to.

There's not very many people for whom neither of the vaccines are recommended at all.

Thanks. That sort of what I’d gathered. So it’s unlikely to be a huge proportion of people who are medically unable to have it

Except at the moment there is no covid vaccine licenced for use in under 16s"

I said that. Neither of the two licensed vaccines in the UK cannot be given to U16s, at least for the time being. Studies have started in younger people. There IS a caveat in the emergency use license to allow an off-label use in U16s on an individual case, if the benefits are deemed to outweigh the risks. I have no idea if anyone U16 has actually received it on this basis.

The Sinopharm Chinese vaccine has been deemed safe in children aged over 3 in trials in China, apparently: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccine-sinopharm/chinas-sinopharm-covid-19-vaccine-safe-for-children-teenagers-state-media-idUSKBN29K0SE

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham


"Keep hearing about vaccine passports, and reason for not having them. The issue of unfairness to those who cannot have it keeps cropping up.

A bit of an Internet search is quite unclear, so apart from pregnant women, does anyone know who cannot have it, and what sort of proportion of the population that is?

I think people with severe bad reactions to things cannot have the vaccine...you know people that have a bad reaction to nuts etc..

"

If people have a history of severe reactions they will be offered the vaccination in a hospital setting. Also Oxford vaccine is given rather than Pfizer. That's what's happening locally anyway.

I have vaccinated a few pregnant ladies with underlying health conditions whose GPs have recommended they receive it

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By *oredcouple1TV/TS
over a year ago

kirkcaldy

Alot of people think once you've had the vaccine thats it i'm safe, you can still get the virus after the vaccine but they say its not as bad, read the blurb that goes with it, masks, distancing, hygeine will be with us for a long time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Alot of people think once you've had the vaccine thats it i'm safe, you can still get the virus after the vaccine but they say its not as bad, read the blurb that goes with it, masks, distancing, hygeine will be with us for a long time"

Masks and distancing could be gone by the end of June. Hopefully hygiene will be with us a lot longer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Matt wankock is in a lab right now working on a vaccine for stupidity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment hope it all goes well

Healthy tax payers under 50 won’t get it until July, which poses the question. Why did we lockdown this group in the first place? "

Ummm to help safeguard the elderly and clinically vunerable?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Alot of people think once you've had the vaccine thats it i'm safe, you can still get the virus after the vaccine but they say its not as bad, read the blurb that goes with it, masks, distancing, hygeine will be with us for a long time"

I've read the information on upcoming studies which show that at least some of the vaccines reduce transmission

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By *ighlander80884Man
over a year ago

Inverness


"I cannot get it, due to my grandson can't get it and he cant be in the same place for up to a fortnight with some who gets a live vaccine, so we are not getting it just now need to wait a year so another year for us socially distancing he is going through cancer treatment "

No one is getting a live vaccine, this is the point of these new vaccines and how they were rolled out so much more quicker.

They do not have any live, or dead, virus, pfeizer for example has messenger rna strands that tell the body how to build a defense.

You cannot catch coronavirus from the vaccine.

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