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By *arklong88 OP   Man
over a year ago

Brighton/north Wales

Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire

WHAT!!!!!!!! A gvmt minister lied? The shock.

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London


"WHAT!!!!!!!! A gvmt minister lied? The shock."

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Lol

Studies have happened. I don't know if it was the UK.

After a long period of really unclear data (which was touted as proof that people should just take more personal responsibility ), vitamin D does seem to make a fair amount of difference to disease severity. (Zinc and vitamin C makes little to no difference from what I've last heard)

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)"

He still sent those who are critically vulnerable vitamin d to take daily.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)"

vd is no use for you sex life.

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By *ent57Man
over a year ago

... where the streets have no name!

I'm pretty much a vitamin supplement sceptic … believing that a reasonably well balanced diet should suffice for most.

However, the primary source of Vitamin D is apparently sunlight - something that is in short supply up here in Scotland - and almost non existent in winter. I have seen studies that indicate supplements do help boost/maintain the immune system. As such it could possibly help against viral infections - Have a look at the nhs.uk website and any other serious health websites and make a decision..

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Yes, there is a direct link with covid and vitamin d deficiency, but why the controversy with some governments?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's no money in vitamin D for the government

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"There's no money in vitamin D for the government "
Yes, that is why you dont see it, so much on the news.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Either the government or the NHS have sent me free vit D

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)"

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I'm pretty much a vitamin supplement sceptic … believing that a reasonably well balanced diet should suffice for most.

However, the primary source of Vitamin D is apparently sunlight - something that is in short supply up here in Scotland - and almost non existent in winter. I have seen studies that indicate supplements do help boost/maintain the immune system. As such it could possibly help against viral infections - Have a look at the nhs.uk website and any other serious health websites and make a decision.."

I'm looking forward to the govt telling me what to eat and when and my balanced healthy diet alongside my government mandated exercise regime and outside time to expose my pasty skin to to sunlight.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers "

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

"

Right so that's ok then

Phew

Here was was me thinking they had done something wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All was explained on the Andrew Marr this morning

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"All was explained on the Andrew Marr this morning "

Course it was

Nothing to see here

Can i see where they have published all the contract details please?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve been diagnosed with low vitamin D but I’m also suffering long COVID.

Not sure if that’s a link or not.

I’ve been referred directly to an Endocrinologist rather than just take supplements x

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

Right so that's ok then

Phew

Here was was me thinking they had done something wrong."

So you dont know the difference, that's twice today you have admitted things you didnt know.

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)"

I thought the main purpose of suggesting people take Vitamin D was to improve mood / depression etc so to replace the lack sunshine / sunlight caused as a result of lockdown? Which I think is very feasible.

So it can also help stop Covid?

Nope!! .

Don't believe that I'm afraid :/

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I'm sure about 6 months ago I saw some official like research along the lines that 80 per cent of covid victims had low vit D levels. Now whether there is any causation or how official said document was I can't say but the implication was certainly that stepping up our vit D would be of benefit.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm sure about 6 months ago I saw some official like research along the lines that 80 per cent of covid victims had low vit D levels. Now whether there is any causation or how official said document was I can't say but the implication was certainly that stepping up our vit D would be of benefit. "

There have been studies most of the way through this (source: my recollection of a year's worth of virology podcasts). Until fairly recently the data was inconclusive but the doctor they have on said most people benefit from supplementation, take it anyway.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I'm sure about 6 months ago I saw some official like research along the lines that 80 per cent of covid victims had low vit D levels. Now whether there is any causation or how official said document was I can't say but the implication was certainly that stepping up our vit D would be of benefit.

There have been studies most of the way through this (source: my recollection of a year's worth of virology podcasts). Until fairly recently the data was inconclusive but the doctor they have on said most people benefit from supplementation, take it anyway."

... That is, the data vis a vis Covid.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

Right so that's ok then

Phew

Here was was me thinking they had done something wrong.

So you dont know the difference, that's twice today you have admitted things you didnt know."

Glad you are keeping check

But its nice to know you are quite happy for the gmnt to act in an unlawful manner with peoples lives at stake.

I'm sure you would be equally ambivalent if labour were in power.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"Either the government or the NHS have sent me free vit D "
my daughter has had it too x

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

I don't know about helping viruses but my mood improves when I take vitamin D plus I have to take an iron supplement as I'm always anaemic

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

Right so that's ok then

Phew

Here was was me thinking they had done something wrong.

So you dont know the difference, that's twice today you have admitted things you didnt know.

Glad you are keeping check

But its nice to know you are quite happy for the gmnt to act in an unlawful manner with peoples lives at stake.

I'm sure you would be equally ambivalent if labour were in power.

"

If what I understand he did, it was not publish the details of contracts within the time he was meant to, a bit like not sending in a tax or vat return on time, hardly the end of the world at the moment, now if he didnt do it because the LAW regarding awarding contracts had been broken then who was responsible for breaking the law needs to face the consequences. When the pandemic is over and we move to the next phase of dealing with covid the will be an inquiry to learn the lessons and if laws have been broken.

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By *andyMinx_tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Leeds


"I'm sure about 6 months ago I saw some official like research along the lines that 80 per cent of covid victims had low vit D levels. Now whether there is any causation or how official said document was I can't say but the implication was certainly that stepping up our vit D would be of benefit.

There have been studies most of the way through this (source: my recollection of a year's worth of virology podcasts). Until fairly recently the data was inconclusive but the doctor they have on said most people benefit from supplementation, take it anyway."

COVID-19 mortality disproportionately impacts BAME and the institutionalised; particularly care-home residents. COVID-19 severity and mortality, appear related to vitamin D deficiency helping explain higher COVID-19 mortality rates in BAME and the obese (BMJ April 2020).

Vitamin D is much more than a supplement, it's a hormone steroid and I believe it's benefits have been severely ignored. Why? Because it's not a patented product.

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

Vit d is essential to your immune system so I'm sure it must help in some way with COVID. Probably not a huge way but I'm sure it would help.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

Right so that's ok then

Phew

Here was was me thinking they had done something wrong.

So you dont know the difference, that's twice today you have admitted things you didnt know.

Glad you are keeping check

But its nice to know you are quite happy for the gmnt to act in an unlawful manner with peoples lives at stake.

I'm sure you would be equally ambivalent if labour were in power.

If what I understand he did, it was not publish the details of contracts within the time he was meant to, a bit like not sending in a tax or vat return on time, hardly the end of the world at the moment, now if he didnt do it because the LAW regarding awarding contracts had been broken then who was responsible for breaking the law needs to face the consequences. When the pandemic is over and we move to the next phase of dealing with covid the will be an inquiry to learn the lessons and if laws have been broken."

It's an ongoing case.

The law project have asked them to publish all the details of the contracts which have been given out.

If they do this ,they will halt the legal challenge but for some reason the gmnt domt seem too keen.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

Right so that's ok then

Phew

Here was was me thinking they had done something wrong.

So you dont know the difference, that's twice today you have admitted things you didnt know.

Glad you are keeping check

But its nice to know you are quite happy for the gmnt to act in an unlawful manner with peoples lives at stake.

I'm sure you would be equally ambivalent if labour were in power.

If what I understand he did, it was not publish the details of contracts within the time he was meant to, a bit like not sending in a tax or vat return on time, hardly the end of the world at the moment, now if he didnt do it because the LAW regarding awarding contracts had been broken then who was responsible for breaking the law needs to face the consequences. When the pandemic is over and we move to the next phase of dealing with covid the will be an inquiry to learn the lessons and if laws have been broken.

It's an ongoing case.

The law project have asked them to publish all the details of the contracts which have been given out.

If they do this ,they will halt the legal challenge but for some reason the gmnt domt seem too keen."

Might there be other reasons why some of them haven't been provided yet?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

Right so that's ok then

Phew

Here was was me thinking they had done something wrong.

So you dont know the difference, that's twice today you have admitted things you didnt know.

Glad you are keeping check

But its nice to know you are quite happy for the gmnt to act in an unlawful manner with peoples lives at stake.

I'm sure you would be equally ambivalent if labour were in power.

If what I understand he did, it was not publish the details of contracts within the time he was meant to, a bit like not sending in a tax or vat return on time, hardly the end of the world at the moment, now if he didnt do it because the LAW regarding awarding contracts had been broken then who was responsible for breaking the law needs to face the consequences. When the pandemic is over and we move to the next phase of dealing with covid the will be an inquiry to learn the lessons and if laws have been broken.

It's an ongoing case.

The law project have asked them to publish all the details of the contracts which have been given out.

If they do this ,they will halt the legal challenge but for some reason the gmnt domt seem too keen.

Might there be other reasons why some of them haven't been provided yet? "

Why would it not be in the public domain?

It's been proven that around 50%of the companies had links to the gmnt.

They were even given vip access.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

Right so that's ok then

Phew

Here was was me thinking they had done something wrong.

So you dont know the difference, that's twice today you have admitted things you didnt know.

Glad you are keeping check

But its nice to know you are quite happy for the gmnt to act in an unlawful manner with peoples lives at stake.

I'm sure you would be equally ambivalent if labour were in power.

If what I understand he did, it was not publish the details of contracts within the time he was meant to, a bit like not sending in a tax or vat return on time, hardly the end of the world at the moment, now if he didnt do it because the LAW regarding awarding contracts had been broken then who was responsible for breaking the law needs to face the consequences. When the pandemic is over and we move to the next phase of dealing with covid the will be an inquiry to learn the lessons and if laws have been broken.

It's an ongoing case.

The law project have asked them to publish all the details of the contracts which have been given out.

If they do this ,they will halt the legal challenge but for some reason the gmnt domt seem too keen.

Might there be other reasons why some of them haven't been provided yet?

Why would it not be in the public domain?

It's been proven that around 50%of the companies had links to the gmnt.

They were even given vip access."

Are all contracts in the public domain.? I don't know.

I have no issue with companies having links to govt. I have no issue with companies making a profit from their trading enterprises. I have an issue with none fulfilling of contracts or contracts issued unfairly or corruptly.

This is part of the trouble with having inexperienced amateurs running for office. On all sides of the spectrum. The apolitical civil service should prevent much of this should nt they?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

We now have a contract expert on here who wants to see the contracts yet the only wrong doing was publishing them late.Some people are scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Han cock said they had done trials that showed vd was of little use..it turns out they never did the trial(the times)

They were found to have broken the law the other day

It was all over the papers

AFAIK the action was found to be unlawful, you need to learn the difference between that and breaking the law.

Right so that's ok then

Phew

Here was was me thinking they had done something wrong.

So you dont know the difference, that's twice today you have admitted things you didnt know.

Glad you are keeping check

But its nice to know you are quite happy for the gmnt to act in an unlawful manner with peoples lives at stake.

I'm sure you would be equally ambivalent if labour were in power.

If what I understand he did, it was not publish the details of contracts within the time he was meant to, a bit like not sending in a tax or vat return on time, hardly the end of the world at the moment, now if he didnt do it because the LAW regarding awarding contracts had been broken then who was responsible for breaking the law needs to face the consequences. When the pandemic is over and we move to the next phase of dealing with covid the will be an inquiry to learn the lessons and if laws have been broken.

It's an ongoing case.

The law project have asked them to publish all the details of the contracts which have been given out.

If they do this ,they will halt the legal challenge but for some reason the gmnt domt seem too keen.

Might there be other reasons why some of them haven't been provided yet?

Why would it not be in the public domain?

It's been proven that around 50%of the companies had links to the gmnt.

They were even given vip access.

Are all contracts in the public domain.? I don't know.

I have no issue with companies having links to govt. I have no issue with companies making a profit from their trading enterprises. I have an issue with none fulfilling of contracts or contracts issued unfairly or corruptly.

This is part of the trouble with having inexperienced amateurs running for office. On all sides of the spectrum. The apolitical civil service should prevent much of this should nt they? "

I dont get you.

You said you dont have a problem with contracts being given to companies with links to the gmnt without tender?

But you dont think contracts should go to companies unfairly?

We dont know what contracts have not been fulfilled because they are keeping it under wraps

Why not publish everything if they have nothing to hide?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

A gmnt gets found to have acted unlawfully yet people still cant bring them to actually criticise them

Embarrassing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We now have a contract expert on here who wants to see the contracts yet the only wrong doing was publishing them late.Some people are scrapping the bottom of the barrel. "

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By *inky SpiceWoman
over a year ago

Glasgow

I can say from personal experience, and also having read copious articles and papers on the subject, that vitamin D absolutely does improve your immune system and general health. But only if you are deficient in it..which tbf most people in the Northern Hemisphere are, especially the more dark skinned people as their darker skin easily blocks the weak sun here. Our lifestyles of working and socialising indoors is also to blame but tbf during the winter if you spent all day outside you still wouldn't get enough vitamin D because of the low angle the suns rays come in at. I always urge people to take vit D, ever since I was diagnosed as so deficient that the levels were almost unreadable. Within 2 weeks of taking high dose supplements my life changed. I could barely lift my arms above my head, I was in so much constant pain. That disappeared almost overnight. I've also had only 1 cold in the 7 years since I was diagnosed and started supplementing, before that I had a cold every 2 to 3 months. So please look into it, read about it, watch lectures on it, you'll be amazed how something so simple might change your life (if you are deficient) And if you think how can a vitamin do so much and doubt the vitamin industry (justifiably) vitamin D isn't actually a vitamin, it's more akin to a hormone, and it's absolutely vital for your body to function properly.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"We now have a contract expert on here who wants to see the contracts yet the only wrong doing was publishing them late.Some people are scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

"

I didn't realise GB news has started yet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Either the government or the NHS have sent me free vit D my daughter has had it too x"

x

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"We now have a contract expert on here who wants to see the contracts yet the only wrong doing was publishing them late.Some people are scrapping the bottom of the barrel.

I didn't realise GB news has started yet?"

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There's no money in vitamin D for the government "

This. It costs literally pennies to make so no money for the pharmaceutical companies to make from it

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

Vitamin D I get from sunshine in summer and tablets in winter.

Vitamin 'C' I get from licking pussy!

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley

Or, am I thinking of vita minG(e)?

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By *anda and CatCouple
over a year ago

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Who gives one, it's been fact for years we need vitd in winter, but hey, let's just find any excuse to blame anyone for anything, or infact nothing!

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Having fallen in the past for vitamin supplementation..to the point of mega dosing & producing some very odd coloured & expensive piss, I sat down & researched, Cochrane analysis, quacks etc & it all boiled down to, if you take one supplement take vitamin D. I do, still got Covid, but not severe. Proves nothing, I know that, but still taking it.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Who gives one, it's been fact for years we need vitd in winter, but hey, let's just find any excuse to blame anyone for anything, or infact nothing!"

Some people actually object to being told bare faced lies

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Having fallen in the past for vitamin supplementation..to the point of mega dosing & producing some very odd coloured & expensive piss, I sat down & researched, Cochrane analysis, quacks etc & it all boiled down to, if you take one supplement take vitamin D. I do, still got Covid, but not severe. Proves nothing, I know that, but still taking it."

I take a few bits and pieces because my doctor told me to, not Covid related. Including vitamin D

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By *ond Jimmy BondMan
over a year ago

London

I was very ill a couple of years ago. No one seemed to no why, except for one doctor who tested my vitamin D levels and found them to be very low. Extremely high initial doses sorted me out! It can improve your immune system if you have the correct levels and that’s probably a benefit if you have Covid

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

Oh well i got my vitamin d from nhs for nothing ,i lack it anyway so every little helps .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently if your taking vit,d its the spray you want ,its needed to get to the back of the trouth stops it swelling up and blocking the air vent .tryed getting here in Dublin but is hard to come by.even in the chemists.

Just my two cents worth.

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Holland & Barrett do a spray.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Holland & Barrett do a spray."

Boots do a spray as well I have used it for years no sun inside at work or in the winter

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Holland & Barrett do a spray."

Good men .

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Why would they need to do trials on vitamin D ?

It’s common bloody knowledge that it’s good for your immune system so needed no further research

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plenty of Vitamin D about this weekend, particularly Saturday, lovely day out in the sunshine .... Oh thats right , stay at home. Tough then if you dont have a garden, though Whitstable town was heaving with “essential” travellers.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"Plenty of Vitamin D about this weekend, particularly Saturday, lovely day out in the sunshine .... Oh thats right , stay at home. Tough then if you dont have a garden, though Whitstable town was heaving with “essential” travellers. "

But you can go for a walk in a t-shirt and top up your vitamin D

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Plenty of Vitamin D about this weekend, particularly Saturday, lovely day out in the sunshine .... Oh thats right , stay at home. Tough then if you dont have a garden, though Whitstable town was heaving with “essential” travellers.

But you can go for a walk in a t-shirt and top up your vitamin D "

Youre not suggesting take some responsibility for your own health and wellbeing?

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"Holland & Barrett do a spray.

Boots do a spray as well I have used it for years no sun inside at work or in the winter "

Not a lot of sun in the back of the throat, either!

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By *ornucopiaMan
over a year ago

Bexley


"... though Whitstable town was heaving with “essential” travellers. "

Ah, a popular venue for lovers of this site, the twin towns of Titstable and Wankerton!

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By *arklong88 OP   Man
over a year ago

Brighton/north Wales

Good to see comments above..in general it seems to be a good thing,so why wasn't advice given to have it on the mainstream news.. instead they said it was of no help?!?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Plenty of Vitamin D about this weekend, particularly Saturday, lovely day out in the sunshine .... Oh thats right , stay at home. Tough then if you dont have a garden, though Whitstable town was heaving with “essential” travellers.

But you can go for a walk in a t-shirt and top up your vitamin D "

No point at the moment, people in the U.K. should supplement with Vit D Oct- Mar, the sun is not strong enough.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Good to see comments above..in general it seems to be a good thing,so why wasn't advice given to have it on the mainstream news.. instead they said it was of no help?!?"

If you go to the BBC website and search vitamin d, or Google sky news vitamin d or telegraph vitamin d or guardian vitamin d (you get the picture) you can find more than enough content

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Plenty of Vitamin D about this weekend, particularly Saturday, lovely day out in the sunshine .... Oh thats right , stay at home. Tough then if you dont have a garden, though Whitstable town was heaving with “essential” travellers. "

not in the uk , the sun isnt strong enough here in winter to provide vitamin D no matter how long you stay out in it , people are advised to take a vitamin d supplement in the uk in winter even when there isnt covid

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