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By *rummie_jamaican OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham

In The Independent

Research is showing that one in 10 Covid patients die within months of leaving hospital. This compares to 2% for the control group. Because these deaths are outside of the 28 day window, they are not included in the stats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's difficult with these stats given the time lag from tests etc.

The true measurement to use is the ONS excess death data.

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By *rummie_jamaican OP   Man
over a year ago

Birmingham


"It's difficult with these stats given the time lag from tests etc.

The true measurement to use is the ONS excess death data."

Agree. I'm starting to believe Prof Ferguson much pilloried numbers were right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead. "

Exactly!

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead.

Exactly!"
We are never leaving our home again , as we speak we are both hiding behind our sofa , we might die of Boredom and poverty but not Covid

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead. "

As will everyone else.

The truth is: it is really hard to establish the exact number of people who's lives have been cut short by the virus without carrying out a full autopsy on everyone who dies... which is just not doable.

The most accurate indication of the real impact on the death figures is the disparity between the current death rate (from any cause) and the average death rate for the last 5 years. This shows a massive increase, far in excess (around 30% more) of the recorded figure of covid deaths

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead. "

Wate lone enough we will all be dead end of

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead.

Wate lone enough we will all be dead end of "

EXACTLY!!!!!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead.

As will everyone else.

The truth is: it is really hard to establish the exact number of people who's lives have been cut short by the virus without carrying out a full autopsy on everyone who dies... which is just not doable.

The most accurate indication of the real impact on the death figures is the disparity between the current death rate (from any cause) and the average death rate for the last 5 years. This shows a massive increase, far in excess (around 30% more) of the recorded figure of covid deaths"

Yes. Figures are out because it's impossible to know for sure. But excess deaths show a pattern indicating just how dangerous this pandemic has been.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead.

As will everyone else.

The truth is: it is really hard to establish the exact number of people who's lives have been cut short by the virus without carrying out a full autopsy on everyone who dies... which is just not doable.

The most accurate indication of the real impact on the death figures is the disparity between the current death rate (from any cause) and the average death rate for the last 5 years. This shows a massive increase, far in excess (around 30% more) of the recorded figure of covid deaths"

Mental, how long is a life? It begins when you are born, and ends when you die, simple as that. There is no guaranteed time limit, so therefore there is no way of cutting one short!

There are numerous causes for death, all around us. Lives have been lived for centuries with these risks involved. People have lived and people have died.

Then all of a sudden COVID pops ups, and people are made to fear living for the possibility of death.

We will all die one day. Don't not live your lives in fear of that day, whatever the cause may be. Enjoy your life to the maximum untill that point, otherwise there simply is no point to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In The Independent

Research is showing that one in 10 Covid patients die within months of leaving hospital. This compares to 2% for the control group. Because these deaths are outside of the 28 day window, they are not included in the stats."

They’ve been undercounted for months. Time will let but I suspect nationally we are about 20k over the published figures

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead.

As will everyone else.

The truth is: it is really hard to establish the exact number of people who's lives have been cut short by the virus without carrying out a full autopsy on everyone who dies... which is just not doable.

The most accurate indication of the real impact on the death figures is the disparity between the current death rate (from any cause) and the average death rate for the last 5 years. This shows a massive increase, far in excess (around 30% more) of the recorded figure of covid deaths

Mental, how long is a life? It begins when you are born, and ends when you die, simple as that. There is no guaranteed time limit, so therefore there is no way of cutting one short!

There are numerous causes for death, all around us. Lives have been lived for centuries with these risks involved. People have lived and people have died.

Then all of a sudden COVID pops ups, and people are made to fear living for the possibility of death.

We will all die one day. Don't not live your lives in fear of that day, whatever the cause may be. Enjoy your life to the maximum untill that point, otherwise there simply is no point to it.

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There are predictions and measurements as to what we expect re deaths. Big changes mean things have gone wrong. That's how it works.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead.

As will everyone else.

The truth is: it is really hard to establish the exact number of people who's lives have been cut short by the virus without carrying out a full autopsy on everyone who dies... which is just not doable.

The most accurate indication of the real impact on the death figures is the disparity between the current death rate (from any cause) and the average death rate for the last 5 years. This shows a massive increase, far in excess (around 30% more) of the recorded figure of covid deaths

Mental, how long is a life? It begins when you are born, and ends when you die, simple as that. There is no guaranteed time limit, so therefore there is no way of cutting one short!

There are numerous causes for death, all around us. Lives have been lived for centuries with these risks involved. People have lived and people have died.

Then all of a sudden COVID pops ups, and people are made to fear living for the possibility of death.

We will all die one day. Don't not live your lives in fear of that day, whatever the cause may be. Enjoy your life to the maximum untill that point, otherwise there simply is no point to it.

"

Yup... you really don’t get it do you, nevermind

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead.

As will everyone else.

The truth is: it is really hard to establish the exact number of people who's lives have been cut short by the virus without carrying out a full autopsy on everyone who dies... which is just not doable.

The most accurate indication of the real impact on the death figures is the disparity between the current death rate (from any cause) and the average death rate for the last 5 years. This shows a massive increase, far in excess (around 30% more) of the recorded figure of covid deaths

Mental, how long is a life? It begins when you are born, and ends when you die, simple as that. There is no guaranteed time limit, so therefore there is no way of cutting one short!

There are numerous causes for death, all around us. Lives have been lived for centuries with these risks involved. People have lived and people have died.

Then all of a sudden COVID pops ups, and people are made to fear living for the possibility of death.

We will all die one day. Don't not live your lives in fear of that day, whatever the cause may be. Enjoy your life to the maximum untill that point, otherwise there simply is no point to it.

Yup... you really don’t get it do you, nevermind "

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

There's also a stat for deaths that include Covid on the death certificate. That's more accurate than the 28 day one.

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

My friend is in hospital with covid and they have put a DNR on her bed with out asking her husband or her ,she is 57 ,apparently the doctors have been told to do this to covid patients...

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

No being overcounted

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"There's also a stat for deaths that include Covid on the death certificate. That's more accurate than the 28 day one. "

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London


"If you wait long enough every person who has had covid will be dead.

As will everyone else.

The truth is: it is really hard to establish the exact number of people who's lives have been cut short by the virus without carrying out a full autopsy on everyone who dies... which is just not doable.

The most accurate indication of the real impact on the death figures is the disparity between the current death rate (from any cause) and the average death rate for the last 5 years. This shows a massive increase, far in excess (around 30% more) of the recorded figure of covid deaths"

Well said

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The figures aren't accurate anyway. There are deaths that have been within a month of testing but not necessarily died of covid specifically yet it's classed as a covid death even though it maybe entirely none consequential to covid.

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