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"Furlough Some have done well most gave done ok some ate realy struggling it's not good and it's not clever But it dose help all that are on it.." And many had nothing at all. | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year" Indeed! Not good at all  | |||
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"I've had no income for 12 months now, no grants, no nothing. It's a miracle that I still live indoors. A furlough would have been great for me!" But you still do? Whats the secret? | |||
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"I've had no income for 12 months now, no grants, no nothing. It's a miracle that I still live indoors. A furlough would have been great for me! But you still do? Whats the secret?" The secret is: have amazing friends, and be as kind as you possibly can be, all the time. Honestly, that is all that has got me through. It's all about giving more than you take, and only taking what you need. And not being a dick. Simple  | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year" Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! | |||
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I can clean the house!!!!!!!!! | |||
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"I've had no income for 12 months now, no grants, no nothing. It's a miracle that I still live indoors. A furlough would have been great for me!" A whole year  Because there are no alternative jobs in the whole of Suffolk that could help tied you over? | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! "  | |||
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"Husband is back in tomorrow after 2 months off
I can clean the house!!!!!!!!! "No point traning him now then but you should still try Good luck | |||
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" A whole year Because there are no alternative jobs in the whole of Suffolk that could help tied you over?"Well I don't live in Suffolk but I get what you mean. Thing is, I have a damaged spine so I can't do lots of the work that's out there. And I'm a student part time so can only do jobs that don't break my back and that fit around my studies... Not the easiest thing to find in a pandemic! | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! " they might just have meant got no govt support | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year" It's been incredibly harsh for the self employed. Thousands have been left out and received absolutely nothing. | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! " In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning. | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning." i had friends in the same situation take up work with supermarkets or amazon who were both looking for loads of extra people to keep up with demand , partly for cash partly for sanity , you might not be able to get the same type or what you deem quality of work, but there is work there to be had | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning. i had friends in the same situation take up work with supermarkets or amazon who were both looking for loads of extra people to keep up with demand , partly for cash partly for sanity , you might not be able to get the same type or what you deem quality of work, but there is work there to be had " Oh I agree there are jobs out there, but not enough for the people looking. I know of someone who has applied for hundreds of jobs this year, still not been successful. It's not that easy at the moment. Demand for jobs is so much higher than jobs available. | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning. i had friends in the same situation take up work with supermarkets or amazon who were both looking for loads of extra people to keep up with demand , partly for cash partly for sanity , you might not be able to get the same type or what you deem quality of work, but there is work there to be had Oh I agree there are jobs out there, but not enough for the people looking. I know of someone who has applied for hundreds of jobs this year, still not been successful. It's not that easy at the moment. Demand for jobs is so much higher than jobs available." i do also know people who are on furlough who have picked up extra work on top of the furlough- i wonder if there would have been a fairer way to prioritise people who were not getting support but even as i say it i know it would be far too complicated to administrate and really companies should just be allowed to employ the best man for the job | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! "I have no income, self employed, all my clients have folded and unlikely to recover. However, I've not sat around, I've moved house, starting a new business, retrained to maximise my income when I am allowed to work. I fell through the system, end of. Currently homeless, but enjoying the experience, so anyone who has a go at self employed, have a care, we are the mightest people to know! | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning. i had friends in the same situation take up work with supermarkets or amazon who were both looking for loads of extra people to keep up with demand , partly for cash partly for sanity , you might not be able to get the same type or what you deem quality of work, but there is work there to be had Oh I agree there are jobs out there, but not enough for the people looking. I know of someone who has applied for hundreds of jobs this year, still not been successful. It's not that easy at the moment. Demand for jobs is so much higher than jobs available. i do also know people who are on furlough who have picked up extra work on top of the furlough- i wonder if there would have been a fairer way to prioritise people who were not getting support but even as i say it i know it would be far too complicated to administrate and really companies should just be allowed to employ the best man for the job " . I agree with you, and I think it's a case of where you live too, and jobs opportunities available. I feel so sorry for anyone looking for work right now and struggling financially. Let's hope there is a brighter future out there for those people. | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning. i had friends in the same situation take up work with supermarkets or amazon who were both looking for loads of extra people to keep up with demand , partly for cash partly for sanity , you might not be able to get the same type or what you deem quality of work, but there is work there to be had Oh I agree there are jobs out there, but not enough for the people looking. I know of someone who has applied for hundreds of jobs this year, still not been successful. It's not that easy at the moment. Demand for jobs is so much higher than jobs available." cant be very good at allying for jobs or there isn't many in the area one of my freinds lost his job as a managing director due to the pandemic he was out of work 3 days before starting at Sainsbury's, he took the first job he found and was deffinetly a big change from what he was doing but he still had a job to do. | |||
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"You have to remember there are some how are benefiting from furlough and much better off." Precisely. There are lots of scams happening. | |||
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"You have to remember there are some how are benefiting from furlough and much better off. Precisely. There are lots of scams happening." Daughter is not even on a scam She was working in London theater for English Nashnal Opera so the look at the heist week and paid her that. But she would also do work for others on days off one was a 4 day stint in a year yes she has been paid for them as well. In total is getting £3500 And no travel cost | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning. i had friends in the same situation take up work with supermarkets or amazon who were both looking for loads of extra people to keep up with demand , partly for cash partly for sanity , you might not be able to get the same type or what you deem quality of work, but there is work there to be had Oh I agree there are jobs out there, but not enough for the people looking. I know of someone who has applied for hundreds of jobs this year, still not been successful. It's not that easy at the moment. Demand for jobs is so much higher than jobs available. cant be very good at allying for jobs or there isn't many in the area one of my freinds lost his job as a managing director due to the pandemic he was out of work 3 days before starting at Sainsbury's, he took the first job he found and was deffinetly a big change from what he was doing but he still had a job to do." it depends on the job market in the area and what kind of jobs applying for i guess after the 2007 crash i was unemployed for 3 months and applied for over 200 jobs in that time - finished just before christmas and got a job again in march , the job market is notoriously sluggish at that time of the year and when i did secure a role it was like busses - 3 offers at once (all temp jobs right enough) one of the recruitment agents told me not be disheartened by the lack of progress as some of it was down to numbers - they were receiving so many applications chances are mine were not even being read - they would just take the top 50 from the pile and sift for suitable candidates from that- they didn’t have time to go through them all | |||
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"You have to remember there are some how are benefiting from furlough and much better off. Precisely. There are lots of scams happening. Daughter is not even on a scam She was working in London theater for English Nashnal Opera so the look at the heist week and paid her that. But she would also do work for others on days off one was a 4 day stint in a year yes she has been paid for them as well. In total is getting £3500 And no travel cost " its not a scam but its taking total advantage of legislation which was written in a hurry so has loopholes - people shouldn’t be getting ongoing furlough for a job that provided them what sounds like 4 days sessional work - the govt had to put in a set of rules quick to get the help to people when they needed it, but they should have gone back round and revisited it to both close up these gaps and get helps to the people that fell through other | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment!
I have no income, self employed, all my clients have folded and unlikely to recover. However, I've not sat around, I've moved house, starting a new business, retrained to maximise my income when I am allowed to work. I fell through the system, end of. Currently homeless, but enjoying the experience, so anyone who has a go at self employed, have a care, we are the mightest people to know! "Think this is the worst part of the Sunak system that is supposedly not leaving anyone out .. SE people who have failed to meet the criteria and received no financial support for a year will now be going back to work and expected to pay tax ( probably at an increased rate) to support all the people who got SEIS grants for the last 12 months. That's just wrong! Surely it would at least help if people who could not get a grant were at least given a reduction on taxes through increasing the threshold maybe for a year to help them get back to business again.. Will be an utter shambles if Sunak only supports people who have been SE since 2019 again..then again he is a Tory.. So who knows | |||
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" A whole year Because there are no alternative jobs in the whole of Suffolk that could help tied you over?
Well I don't live in Suffolk but I get what you mean.
Thing is, I have a damaged spine so I can't do lots of the work that's out there. And I'm a student part time so can only do jobs that don't break my back and that fit around my studies... Not the easiest thing to find in a pandemic!"Sorry my mind read Felixstowe not Folkestone. Sure there are plenty of seated jobs opportunities out there that can fit around part time studies.. looking back I can see I wasted enough time as a full time student that I could have also had a full time job alongside it  | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning. i had friends in the same situation take up work with supermarkets or amazon who were both looking for loads of extra people to keep up with demand , partly for cash partly for sanity , you might not be able to get the same type or what you deem quality of work, but there is work there to be had " | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning. i had friends in the same situation take up work with supermarkets or amazon who were both looking for loads of extra people to keep up with demand , partly for cash partly for sanity , you might not be able to get the same type or what you deem quality of work, but there is work there to be had Oh I agree there are jobs out there, but not enough for the people looking. I know of someone who has applied for hundreds of jobs this year, still not been successful. It's not that easy at the moment. Demand for jobs is so much higher than jobs available." Anyone who is having that much trouble finding work needs to take some advice, they are not coming across well or applying for the wrong jobs. | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! In what way? It's incredibly difficult to find income from elsewhere when your business suddenly stops trading without any planning or warning. i had friends in the same situation take up work with supermarkets or amazon who were both looking for loads of extra people to keep up with demand , partly for cash partly for sanity , you might not be able to get the same type or what you deem quality of work, but there is work there to be had Oh I agree there are jobs out there, but not enough for the people looking. I know of someone who has applied for hundreds of jobs this year, still not been successful. It's not that easy at the moment. Demand for jobs is so much higher than jobs available. Anyone who is having that much trouble finding work needs to premium some advice, they are not coming across well or applying for the wrong jobs. " I manage a team of Support Coaches who work with long term 2 year+ unemployed including ex offenders (inc sex offenders), 2nd even 3rd generation unemployed for whom rising above their family expectations of them can be very challenging we work with those who have health considerations, many people who have been signed of sick for years even decades and have now been deemed fit for at least some form of work. A large group of our clients suffer from anxiety and depression so we work in partnership with the likes of Mind and similar. The hard part is over coming the clients many and varied barriers, some are circumstances, back luck, some barriers are self imposed and ultimately a big part of it is changing mind sets. It doesn't help when benefit rises including the covid premium to universal credit has meant in a number of cases working doesn't actual mean been much better off currently from some claimants. Finding jobs pre covid and most definitely now is not the problem at all. We have more jobs and apprenticeships offered to our programme than we could ever dream to fill. Most days I go back to employers explaining that sadly we don't have any candidates suitable currently. That's after offering them to 4 different major projects we run and also to the local job centre staff. Take last Monday We were offered 5 Care Sector Jobs (set full time or part time contracted hours, £9 per hour rate, working in a residential setting - not door to door - with a range of really decent benefits. Across the teams caseloads we had 8 clients who listed Care as their main sector of choice, 3 answered the phone calls so were given interviews for the Thursday. All 3 we offered / provided travel costs if needed to get there and offered brand new interview clothes as well as pre interview coaching. Only 1 client took up the offer of travel, new interview clothes and coaching support. He was the only 1 of the 3 who turned up to the interview and I'm pleased to say was offered the job. In the North East there is a huge demand for driver jobs, Care work - the door to door care roles now come with a car that can be kept for personal use and a rate of 9.50 pet hour in an attempt to recruit because many just haven't enough staff to meet there contract commitments. We have a range Construction jobs and many skilled roles such as joiners are cherry picking work at the moment. Loads of site work from CSCS Card labourers right through to semi and skilled trades. I could list many more sectors but I'll stop there. A large portion of the job seekers we are working with do not consider it safe to work atm and the stay at home order of lockdown and the fact the DWP Job Centre is telephone appointments in 95% cases means that pretty much goes unchallenged. You may even think they are right and it is unsafe to work but the millions who are working through the pandemic don't get the luxury of that choice. Anyway I can only speak for Teesside but in my area lack of jobs is most definitely not the problem. If anyone from this area finds themselves in need of work to keep things ticking over by all means message me and i would be very happy to help. KJ | |||
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" It doesn't help when benefit rises including the covid premium to universal credit has meant in a number of cases working doesn't actual mean been much better off currently from some claimants. " sounds like you know your stuff and work directly with these people but i expect this home truth to be incredibly unpopular and people to be along in a minute to tell you its impossible to live on universal credit and the world is surviving on food banks
i used to see the same with my flat mate who worked on the street with the homeless - started out bright eyed and full of hope and eventually realised most of our cities homeless choose to be there as it helps them feed their addiction and charities will continue to enable them , yet people would argue with her it was the councils fault that we had a homeless problem
you cant just throw jobs and homes at people - there are much more complex underlying issues that need worked through, but likewise you cant always help someone that doesn’t want to be helped
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" It doesn't help when benefit rises including the covid premium to universal credit has meant in a number of cases working doesn't actual mean been much better off currently from some claimants. sounds like you know your stuff and work directly with these people but i expect this home truth to be incredibly unpopular and people to be along in a minute to tell you its impossible to live on universal credit and the world is surviving on food banks
i used to see the same with my flat mate who worked on the street with the homeless - started out bright eyed and full of hope and eventually realised most of our cities homeless choose to be there as it helps them feed their addiction and charities will continue to enable them , yet people would argue with her it was the councils fault that we had a homeless problem
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"What I find hard is that I'm furloughed but had opportunity to work for another company during this time and technically earn 2 wages. I haven't as morality said its not right... The scheme is flawed... Those that were self employed less than a few years I believe were left high and dry..
Hope all will financially survive this and recover at some point in the future "you should take the other job if you think you can gain from the experience , if you feel guilty about the wages then anything above what you would normally earn you could donate to a cause close to your heart don’t let flaws in the system make you lose out on good opportunities | |||
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"What I find hard is that I'm furloughed but had opportunity to work for another company during this time and technically earn 2 wages. I haven't as morality said its not right... The scheme is flawed... Those that were self employed less than a few years I believe were left high and dry..
Hope all will financially survive this and recover at some point in the future
you should take the other job if you think you can gain from the experience , if you feel guilty about the wages then anything above what you would normally earn you could donate to a cause close to your heart
don’t let flaws in the system make you lose out on good opportunities " | |||
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"What I find hard is that I'm furloughed but had opportunity to work for another company during this time and technically earn 2 wages. I haven't as morality said its not right... The scheme is flawed... Those that were self employed less than a few years I believe were left high and dry..
Hope all will financially survive this and recover at some point in the future
you should take the other job if you think you can gain from the experience , if you feel guilty about the wages then anything above what you would normally earn you could donate to a cause close to your heart
don’t let flaws in the system make you lose out on good opportunities "The other job allows me to keep skills up to date whilst awaiting the furloughed job, so compromise is a few random days with them. I just want normality back like everyone else. Keep safe guys and let's hope the back is broken on this ordeal now  | |||
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"You have to remember there are some how are benefiting from furlough and much better off. Precisely. There are lots of scams happening. Daughter is not even on a scam She was working in London theater for English Nashnal Opera so the look at the heist week and paid her that. But she would also do work for others on days off one was a 4 day stint in a year yes she has been paid for them as well. In total is getting £3500 And no travel cost its not a scam but its taking total advantage of legislation which was written in a hurry so has loopholes - people shouldn’t be getting ongoing furlough for a job that provided them what sounds like 4 days sessional work - the govt had to put in a set of rules quick to get the help to people when they needed it, but they should have gone back round and revisited it to both close up these gaps and get helps to the people that fell through other " yer was just a bit of maintance about £120 a day so still gets £300 A month from it She never even claimed it was just paid But sum are struggling but is that not all ways the case. | |||
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"Self employed, got nothing for a year Anyone who is self employed but sat around waiting on this to be over rather than actively finding alternative income streams needs to question if they are cut out for self employment! " Disagree entirely. The government should have to reimburse every individual and business 100% of lost earnings/income. They didn’t ask not to work, they were forced not to. | |||
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"Furlough Some have done well most gave done ok some ate realy struggling it's not good and it's not clever But it dose help all that are on it.. And many had nothing at all." I would work for fuck all if I could look at that pussy all day and I’m a tight Yorkshire bastard | |||
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"If that was the case (I doubt if is) the reasoning won’t be to reduce HMRCs workforce..... but if might get to reduce the amount of self employed people who have failed to disclose their earnings properly and pay the correct amount of tax??? Large amounts of self employed people (not all obviously) have had a very good run when if comes to the creativity applied to their earnings and tax responsibility.... it’s bitten those people on the arse now... I have absolute sympathy for people whose livelihoods have been affected by lockdowns etc... but in relation to financial help you haven’t gotten due to the fact your declaration of earnings has been incorrect my sympathy lacks... " yes hit a lot of self employed, but bet a few accountants are getting a bit of bollocking as well ... how many advise to make a loss every so often  can see changes in the tax system being made, more streamlined and closing of loop holes. | |||
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"If that was the case (I doubt if is) the reasoning won’t be to reduce HMRCs workforce..... but if might get to reduce the amount of self employed people who have failed to disclose their earnings properly and pay the correct amount of tax??? Large amounts of self employed people (not all obviously) have had a very good run when if comes to the creativity applied to their earnings and tax responsibility.... it’s bitten those people on the arse now... I have absolute sympathy for people whose livelihoods have been affected by lockdowns etc... but in relation to financial help you haven’t gotten due to the fact your declaration of earnings has been incorrect my sympathy lacks... " I am so with you we have 3 company's in this house hold and use it to reduce tax. But there is no support if you have paid no tax and rightly so. Also now is the time to do some thing about the cash econermy where also no tax is paid. Builders, small shops, hair dressers, cleaners, window, cleaners, etc | |||
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"If that was the case (I doubt if is) the reasoning won’t be to reduce HMRCs workforce..... but if might get to reduce the amount of self employed people who have failed to disclose their earnings properly and pay the correct amount of tax??? Large amounts of self employed people (not all obviously) have had a very good run when if comes to the creativity applied to their earnings and tax responsibility.... it’s bitten those people on the arse now... I have absolute sympathy for people whose livelihoods have been affected by lockdowns etc... but in relation to financial help you haven’t gotten due to the fact your declaration of earnings has been incorrect my sympathy lacks... I am so with you we have 3 company's in this house hold and use it to reduce tax. But there is no support if you have paid no tax and rightly so. Also now is the time to do some thing about the cash econermy where also no tax is paid. Builders, small shops, hair dressers, cleaners, window, cleaners, etc " You can't kill the black economy though, think about it, you give a window cleaner 20 pounds ... he might put in 5 pounds of fuel in his van and spend the rest on take away. Tax man still gets a large cut either way. Imho government should chase the likes of social media giant and search engines then Bob who cleans the Windows once a month | |||
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"If that was the case (I doubt if is) the reasoning won’t be to reduce HMRCs workforce..... but if might get to reduce the amount of self employed people who have failed to disclose their earnings properly and pay the correct amount of tax??? Large amounts of self employed people (not all obviously) have had a very good run when if comes to the creativity applied to their earnings and tax responsibility.... it’s bitten those people on the arse now... I have absolute sympathy for people whose livelihoods have been affected by lockdowns etc... but in relation to financial help you haven’t gotten due to the fact your declaration of earnings has been incorrect my sympathy lacks... I am so with you we have 3 company's in this house hold and use it to reduce tax. But there is no support if you have paid no tax and rightly so. Also now is the time to do some thing about the cash econermy where also no tax is paid. Builders, small shops, hair dressers, cleaners, window, cleaners, etc You can't kill the black economy though, think about it, you give a window cleaner 20 pounds ... he might put in 5 pounds of fuel in his van and spend the rest on take away. Tax man still gets a large cut either way. Imho government should chase the likes of social media giant and search engines then Bob who cleans the Windows once a month " But the widow cleaner dose 20 houses a day and pays no PAYE or very little I ran a company for 10 years and made a loss every year so I could move money from another company that I could not hide it so easy and it was easy. Times that by lots doing it and the tax man is so missing out. And remember the window cleaner is also getting free schools meals as his income is low. The same as I got grants for my Daughter to go to UNI. | |||
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