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"Yeah I would have thought so, but if they open pubs first...." Pubs bring high taxes. Gyms don't. | |||
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"Yeah I would have thought so, but if they open pubs first.... Pubs bring high taxes. Gyms don't. " Well, the tax base has been completely devasted so maybe they should rethink that one! | |||
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"Gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places to visit I would think. Sweaty bodies giving of airborne particles and circuits relying on shared machines and equipment. Trouble with a capital T. " Much as I would like to, I agree, I think gyms sound relatively risky. I'm sure 99% of gyms will have staff disinfecting handles, bars, mats etc very well. But stuff like weight disks that people handle all the time, no way they will get sanitised sufficiently. | |||
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"Gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places to visit I would think. Sweaty bodies giving of airborne particles and circuits relying on shared machines and equipment. Trouble with a capital T. " They really arent. They are one of the lowest places of infection | |||
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"Gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places to visit I would think. Sweaty bodies giving of airborne particles and circuits relying on shared machines and equipment. Trouble with a capital T. " Spoken like someone with no clue. | |||
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"Gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places to visit I would think. Sweaty bodies giving of airborne particles and circuits relying on shared machines and equipment. Trouble with a capital T. " That is simply wrong. https://www.ukactive.com/news/uk-fitness-and-leisure-sector-publishes-most-comprehensive-data-yet-for-covid-19-rates-among-people-who-have-visited-gyms-and-facilities/ | |||
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"We can wait only for the 22nd February planned relaxation list, giving the order and earliest dates for things. April/May is my guess " I reckon we will probally go back into tears region by region. | |||
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"Gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places to visit I would think. Sweaty bodies giving of airborne particles and circuits relying on shared machines and equipment. Trouble with a capital T. They really arent. They are one of the lowest places of infection " This is true. Also the benefits of gyms and leisure centres/facilities being open far outweigh the risks. | |||
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"Quite frankly given that we are in a pandemic, I am surprised at how eager people are to put themselves at risk! " At risk, im losing all motivation, bordering depression at the minute, I would be very happy to take the socially distanced risk. | |||
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"Quite frankly given that we are in a pandemic, I am surprised at how eager people are to put themselves at risk! " Not that you have any evidence of a risk, outside of your imagination. And yet there is enormous evidence of the physical and psychological benefits of exercise. I wonder which we should rely on?  | |||
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"I've tried to run outdoors and maintained it since Christmas but I've had so many injuries due wet leaves, ice, mud etc... and I've had abuse from people who don't want me 'heavy breathing' as I run past them on paths, so now I wear a snood which isn't great for running. I just need to get back in the gym so I can train safely and not get abuse! " Im completely the same as you, I just haven't done any running, eating is now my cardio | |||
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"I've tried to run outdoors and maintained it since Christmas but I've had so many injuries due wet leaves, ice, mud etc... and I've had abuse from people who don't want me 'heavy breathing' as I run past them on paths, so now I wear a snood which isn't great for running. I just need to get back in the gym so I can train safely and not get abuse! " Hopefully they wont be left to last like last . | |||
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"I've tried to run outdoors and maintained it since Christmas but I've had so many injuries due wet leaves, ice, mud etc... and I've had abuse from people who don't want me 'heavy breathing' as I run past them on paths, so now I wear a snood which isn't great for running. I just need to get back in the gym so I can train safely and not get abuse! " Wow, that’s dreadful, I am a runner & have run much further than pre lockdown, I have occasionally had people sort of jumping out of the way, Patric in first lockdown, turning face away from me, but no abuse. I do tend to run early morning ( summer I was out by 7 back by 9) winter runs as soon as it is light if not at work & as soon as home when working, but choosing routes off the beaten track to avoid busy parks. | |||
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"I've just heard very concerning news today that my local fitness centre may not open back up. The owner is really struggling with the extortionate rent and the landlord is being a total prick about it. Very short sighted of the landlord." Playing devals advocate. Dose the land lord own the property or have a loan mortgage on it. | |||
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"I've just heard very concerning news today that my local fitness centre may not open back up. The owner is really struggling with the extortionate rent and the landlord is being a total prick about it. Very short sighted of the landlord. Playing devals advocate. Dose the land lord own the property or have a loan mortgage on it." To me non medical gyms and shops are safer then schools How can a supermarket be open and not a small shop or a gym | |||
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"I've tried to run outdoors and maintained it since Christmas but I've had so many injuries due wet leaves, ice, mud etc... and I've had abuse from people who don't want me 'heavy breathing' as I run past them on paths, so now I wear a snood which isn't great for running. I just need to get back in the gym so I can train safely and not get abuse! Wow, that’s dreadful, I am a runner & have run much further than pre lockdown, I have occasionally had people sort of jumping out of the way, Patric in first lockdown, turning face away from me, but no abuse. I do tend to run early morning ( summer I was out by 7 back by 9) winter runs as soon as it is light if not at work & as soon as home when working, but choosing routes off the beaten track to avoid busy parks." I've had abuse a few times now. Once I was running past someone's driveway as a man was closing his gates behind his car. I was obliviously running in my own world and all of a sudden he starts waving me away in a 'shoo' motion and said 'stop coughing and spluttering by my driveway'!!!! I was instantly brought back to reality and did a little scared dance in the air before carrying on my run. I wasn't sure if I was more stunned at being shooed or told I was spluttering! hahaha I'm quite fit and you can barely hear me breath when I run, never mind cough or splutter!!! hahaha Another time, this brat was on his scooter way ahead of me while his mum was face down into her phone. Anyway, in between me passing her and reaching her brat, she took her face out of her phone and ordered me to run around her child! What did she think I was going to do, run into and over him, stamping on his scooter as I went? I just carried on running and ignored her shouting and resisted the urge to kick her little darling off the scooter as I circled past! lol | |||
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"Has anybody heard when there opening? This government cant seem to boil an egg without it being leaked to the press but I haven't heard anything yet?" read the the news ??? | |||
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"May apparently "Where did you see this if you don't mind me asking? I think I'll lose my marbles if it's May  | |||
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I think I'll lose my marbles if it's May "Me mum said she saw it on the tele before.gyms along with hairdressers apparently. I was hoping maybe the end of March. | |||
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I think I'll lose my marbles if it's May
Me mum said she saw it on the tele before.gyms along with hairdressers apparently.
I was hoping maybe the end of March."Aww I see. Yeah was thinking it would be around mid April. If pubs, restaurants and hairdressers open before gyms I'll lose my mind haha | |||
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"May apparently
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Me mum said she saw it on the tele before.gyms along with hairdressers apparently.
I was hoping maybe the end of March.
Aww I see. Yeah was thinking it would be around mid April. If pubs, restaurants and hairdressers open before gyms I'll lose my mind haha "Same here. I went be able to fit through the door. Considering the importance of mental health ,they certainly shouldn't be last on The list. | |||
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"F%€× the gyms. When are the pubs re-0pening?" Start your own boozer thread  | |||
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"With furlough looking likely to being extended til autumn I'm not getting hopes up on anything open. As far as I'm concerned 2021 is over already" I completely agree. | |||
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"Gyms are the worst place to get infected everyone breathing in other people's air panting then touching things that others have touched with sweaty hands and pub would be the same in a enclosed environment breathing in air and drinking from glasses that most likely haven't been cleaned properly it's common sense" No it's not. As has been pointed out that's completely incorrect. | |||
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout!" My thoughts precisely...as a fitness instructor formerly, I see how much time & effort is wasted. | |||
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"Leaks on tomorrow's announcement say gyms could reopen around mid-April." Hopefully it's no later | |||
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"Leaks on tomorrow's announcement say gyms could reopen around mid-April. Hopefully it's no later "Yep fingers crossed | |||
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"Gyms are the worst place to get infected everyone breathing in other people's air panting then touching things that others have touched with sweaty hands and pub would be the same in a enclosed environment breathing in air and drinking from glasses that most likely haven't been cleaned properly it's common sense" So do you not think kids in classrooms breathe the same air Oh and gyms are as small as as a classroom. And of course all meet at the gate as well | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration " Obvs why the infection rates are so minuscule. | |||
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"Gyms are the worst place to get infected everyone breathing in other people's air panting then touching things that others have touched with sweaty hands and pub would be the same in a enclosed environment breathing in air and drinking from glasses that most likely haven't been cleaned properly it's common sense So do you not think kids in classrooms breathe the same air Oh and gyms are as small as as a classroom. And of course all meet at the gate as well " Question of priorities. The education of a nation's children is one of the most important things, even in a crisis. So we find a way to make it work. Gyms are important to many people (myself included) but they're an optional activity. | |||
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"Gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places to visit I would think. Sweaty bodies giving of airborne particles and circuits relying on shared machines and equipment. Trouble with a capital T. They really arent. They are one of the lowest places of infection This is true. Also the benefits of gyms and leisure centres/facilities being open far outweigh the risks." we will have a mental health and obesity crisis in the coming months and years. gov should prioritise gyms leisure centres and grass roots sports. yes many people have started running during lockdow but many more who were previously active havent been very active | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration " l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case | |||
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"Gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places to visit I would think. Sweaty bodies giving of airborne particles and circuits relying on shared machines and equipment. Trouble with a capital T. They really arent. They are one of the lowest places of infection This is true. Also the benefits of gyms and leisure centres/facilities being open far outweigh the risks.we will have a mental health and obesity crisis in the coming months and years. gov should prioritise gyms leisure centres and grass roots sports. yes many people have started running during lockdow but many more who were previously active havent been very active" I used to swim seven days a week but cannot at moment just a result of covid you have to exept these things | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case " That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. " The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch " At our school the children eat lunch in the classroom that they have had their last lesson in. Very little movement around the building. | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch " Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. " So Is that year 1 to 7 | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. So Is that year 1 to 7 " Years 7 to 11 | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. So Is that year 1 to 7 Years 7 to 11 " So a small school do able a new school just built in Hailsham academy 500 for years 1 to 6 The main secondary school 1600 Could you do what you are doing in the same way | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. So Is that year 1 to 7 Years 7 to 11 So a small school do able a new school just built in Hailsham academy 500 for years 1 to 6 The main secondary school 1600 Could you do what you are doing in the same way " It’s a standard size secondary school here. We have three primary schools that also work the same way. What other schools do is up to their set up, I cannot comment on the schools in your area. School opens for the first year at 08.00 and the final year leaves at 17.00. | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. So Is that year 1 to 7 Years 7 to 11 So a small school do able a new school just built in Hailsham academy 500 for years 1 to 6 The main secondary school 1600 Could you do what you are doing in the same way It’s a standard size secondary school here. We have three primary schools that also work the same way. What other schools do is up to their set up, I cannot comment on the schools in your area. School opens for the first year at 08.00 and the final year leaves at 17.00. " So I guess if the kids don't change class room it's limited ceroculem or do you do wood work in the same room etc | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. So Is that year 1 to 7 Years 7 to 11 So a small school do able a new school just built in Hailsham academy 500 for years 1 to 6 The main secondary school 1600 Could you do what you are doing in the same way It’s a standard size secondary school here. We have three primary schools that also work the same way. What other schools do is up to their set up, I cannot comment on the schools in your area. School opens for the first year at 08.00 and the final year leaves at 17.00. So I guess if the kids don't change class room it's limited ceroculem or do you do wood work in the same room etc " We have a full curriculum. The things that have changed are practical suspended for DT, cooking. They used to move rooms for these and art, these are now written lessons only. Art is done in classroom now limited to drawing / painting in class with own supplies. The only lessons they leave their room for is science & music. These have been grouped to the end of the day for each year on separate days, ie instead of science three times a week as before, they have three straight lessons but no experiments are done by the students, just observing what the teacher does. Music they still compose their own music but on keyboards only. These classrooms are then deep cleaned at the end of the day before the next year arrives the following afternoon. It’s meant a lot of work to change the timetable around but the school has managed it and it’s working. | |||
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"Meat heads needing their steriods.. perfectly good gym outside your front door.. good enough for Rocky Balboa..." Get a clue ffs. | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. So Is that year 1 to 7 Years 7 to 11 So a small school do able a new school just built in Hailsham academy 500 for years 1 to 6 The main secondary school 1600 Could you do what you are doing in the same way It’s a standard size secondary school here. We have three primary schools that also work the same way. What other schools do is up to their set up, I cannot comment on the schools in your area. School opens for the first year at 08.00 and the final year leaves at 17.00. So I guess if the kids don't change class room it's limited ceroculem or do you do wood work in the same room etc We have a full curriculum. The things that have changed are practical suspended for DT, cooking. They used to move rooms for these and art, these are now written lessons only. Art is done in classroom now limited to drawing / painting in class with own supplies. The only lessons they leave their room for is science & music. These have been grouped to the end of the day for each year on separate days, ie instead of science three times a week as before, they have three straight lessons but no experiments are done by the students, just observing what the teacher does. Music they still compose their own music but on keyboards only. These classrooms are then deep cleaned at the end of the day before the next year arrives the following afternoon. It’s meant a lot of work to change the timetable around but the school has managed it and it’s working. " But it is ok in a smaller school how would you get the 300 in to the 6 music rooms and still be 2m apart is ok in a smaller school but how meant secondre schools e.g. as small as yours It is probably a better way of teaching in a small school but is 300 per year not more the norm | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. So Is that year 1 to 7 Years 7 to 11 So a small school do able a new school just built in Hailsham academy 500 for years 1 to 6 The main secondary school 1600 Could you do what you are doing in the same way It’s a standard size secondary school here. We have three primary schools that also work the same way. What other schools do is up to their set up, I cannot comment on the schools in your area. School opens for the first year at 08.00 and the final year leaves at 17.00. So I guess if the kids don't change class room it's limited ceroculem or do you do wood work in the same room etc We have a full curriculum. The things that have changed are practical suspended for DT, cooking. They used to move rooms for these and art, these are now written lessons only. Art is done in classroom now limited to drawing / painting in class with own supplies. The only lessons they leave their room for is science & music. These have been grouped to the end of the day for each year on separate days, ie instead of science three times a week as before, they have three straight lessons but no experiments are done by the students, just observing what the teacher does. Music they still compose their own music but on keyboards only. These classrooms are then deep cleaned at the end of the day before the next year arrives the following afternoon. It’s meant a lot of work to change the timetable around but the school has managed it and it’s working. But it is ok in a smaller school how would you get the 300 in to the 6 music rooms and still be 2m apart is ok in a smaller school but how meant secondre schools e.g. as small as yours It is probably a better way of teaching in a small school but is 300 per year not more the norm " Those 300 kids in that year, using your example, won’t be having music all at the same time, that’s why a lot of thought goes into the timetables. Having googled the average size of a secondary and then divide that by 5 to get each year is just short of 200 kids per year. ‘Official data from the Department for Education (DfE) shows that secondary school rolls increased by 81,000 pupils at the start of the academic year, pushing the average class size to 22 and the average size of a secondary school up 2% to 986 pupils’ | |||
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"Just for context, my son's secondary school (same one we attended) is almost 2000 students, including sixth form. The sizes of schools vary hugely, hence the differences in how schools have to manage things. " Precisely it’s no one solution fits all, each school needs to do what is best for their building & pupils. | |||
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"is this the gym thread or the school thread? i've kinda got confused. loved the balboa comment though, "adrianne -where's my nearest meat packing factory?"" Sorry I started it saying gyms should open before schools in my opinion and it went from there sorry. | |||
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"Gyms are the equivalent of a cruise ship without the sea. Filthy places where the virus can settle in for a duration l What you think worse then the kids running roung a school or walking up and down a coridore. 30 odd to a small room then all move round so a different 30 then in another room changing what 5 times a day all in a lunch hall at some point and walking to school in groups. I get kids need education but it can't be clean. At least wate till R is down to 0.5 ish But we will see how long befor a school shuts and when it dose will it be the hole school in isolation and the families Mmmm dought at least with a gym every one there should isolate if there is a possative case That’s where you are wrong about schools, ours anyway and I’m sure many more. They wear masks until seated at their desk, they don’t touch any doors as all propped open. They have a set order to enter / leave the classroom. They don’t move around during the day only the teachers do. The only time they move is for lunch or break time which is in their year groups, which is preceded and followed by hand washing and hand sanitizer. They have staggered end / start times and each year has a separate entrance to access / leave the school. Our school had four cases the whole of the autumn term, one student in early October who caught it from his father, and three teachers in late November. There was no other cases or spreading to other individuals. So not all of them are the germ spreading establishments you think they are. The school I went to had and hass to gets one for cars one for students. I guess schooling has changed but how do you get 300 kids in to a dining hall at lunch time and keep them 2m apart that's 1200 square meters for 45 minits then clean it for the next lot 5 years so 5 hours to do lunch Well for a start our years aren’t 300 kids they are a 100. They have 20 minute slot to eat lunch and leave and there is a clean up team who clean the tables / benches in the 5 minute gap. All year lunches are staggered depending on what time you start school, just like break time. So Is that year 1 to 7 Years 7 to 11 So a small school do able a new school just built in Hailsham academy 500 for years 1 to 6 The main secondary school 1600 Could you do what you are doing in the same way " of course you could - if the school has 3 times as many kids it has 3 times as much space | |||
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"That smug pillock Hancock being the first... " Id love to slap him round the face, for charity. | |||
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"Meat heads needing their steriods.. perfectly good gym outside your front door.. good enough for Rocky Balboa..." You need to get to the library as soon as they open, sausage. | |||
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout!" So is this the same as me saying, ive never needed a hospital in the last 20 years, everything I needed I got at the doctors, don't worry about hospitals, don't need them. | |||
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"Just for context, my son's secondary school (same one we attended) is almost 2000 students, including sixth form. The sizes of schools vary hugely, hence the differences in how schools have to manage things. Precisely it’s no one solution fits all, each school needs to do what is best for their building & pupils. I guess time will now show us. I get kids do not get as sick but i belive they can catch it and there for transmit covid." How prevalent they are at having it will be seen with twice weekly testing | |||
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"Just for context, my son's secondary school (same one we attended) is almost 2000 students, including sixth form. The sizes of schools vary hugely, hence the differences in how schools have to manage things. Precisely it’s no one solution fits all, each school needs to do what is best for their building & pupils. I guess time will now show us. I get kids do not get as sick but i belive they can catch it and there for transmit covid. How prevalent they are at having it will be seen with twice weekly testing " The twice weekly testing is going to be a huge task to undertake too | |||
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"Just for context, my son's secondary school (same one we attended) is almost 2000 students, including sixth form. The sizes of schools vary hugely, hence the differences in how schools have to manage things. Precisely it’s no one solution fits all, each school needs to do what is best for their building & pupils. I guess time will now show us. I get kids do not get as sick but i belive they can catch it and there for transmit covid. How prevalent they are at having it will be seen with twice weekly testing The twice weekly testing is going to be a huge task to undertake too" It is and done at home come test number 4.... morning kid open up | |||
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout! So is this the same as me saying, ive never needed a hospital in the last 20 years, everything I needed I got at the doctors, don't worry about hospitals, don't need them." No, its not the same at all, there are lots of ways you can exercise without going to a gym but not so much you can do at home that you need hospitals for | |||
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout! So is this the same as me saying, ive never needed a hospital in the last 20 years, everything I needed I got at the doctors, don't worry about hospitals, don't need them. No, its not the same at all, there are lots of ways you can exercise without going to a gym but not so much you can do at home that you need hospitals for " There's lots of people who cannot easily exercise at home/by going out running or walking. Some of us need the help of machines, big puddles of water (swimming pools) or indoor venues. I wouldn't expect most able bodied people to understand, however and await being told everyone can run a bit, try Couch to 5k etc | |||
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"Why gyms?Not top of the list thats for sure" They are for some of us who try to take physical care of ourselves | |||
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"Home workout vs home surgery...hmmm." Taken my own stitches out, done verruca "surgery" on my son etc. Yeah, it'll be fine. Probably 
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout! So is this the same as me saying, ive never needed a hospital in the last 20 years, everything I needed I got at the doctors, don't worry about hospitals, don't need them. No, its not the same at all, there are lots of ways you can exercise without going to a gym but not so much you can do at home that you need hospitals for There's lots of people who cannot easily exercise at home/by going out running or walking. Some of us need the help of machines, big puddles of water (swimming pools) or indoor venues. I wouldn't expect most able bodied people to understand, however and await being told everyone can run a bit, try Couch to 5k etc "Lol | |||
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout! So is this the same as me saying, ive never needed a hospital in the last 20 years, everything I needed I got at the doctors, don't worry about hospitals, don't need them. No, its not the same at all, there are lots of ways you can exercise without going to a gym but not so much you can do at home that you need hospitals for There's lots of people who cannot easily exercise at home/by going out running or walking. Some of us need the help of machines, big puddles of water (swimming pools) or indoor venues. I wouldn't expect most able bodied people to understand, however and await being told everyone can run a bit, try Couch to 5k etc "Pools I grant you, not a home workout, but as far as resistance there is nothing you could do at the gym that you couldn’t do at home...I am making the assumption that you are not Olympic lifting here...apologies if you are! Cardio a little more difficult but not impossible depending on mobility. Not judging, each to their own & I am fully aware of the social aspect of gym use. | |||
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"Home workout vs home surgery...hmmm. Taken my own stitches out, done verruca "surgery" on my son etc. Yeah, it'll be fine. Probably
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"Gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places to visit I would think. Sweaty bodies giving of airborne particles and circuits relying on shared machines and equipment. Trouble with a capital T. " Covid isn't an air born virus, you have to be within 2metres of someone for at least 10/15 minutes to catch it. And government research has showen that gyms were one of the least places you were likely to catch it. Below pubs, supermarkets, schools etc... | |||
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout! So is this the same as me saying, ive never needed a hospital in the last 20 years, everything I needed I got at the doctors, don't worry about hospitals, don't need them. No, its not the same at all, there are lots of ways you can exercise without going to a gym but not so much you can do at home that you need hospitals for There's lots of people who cannot easily exercise at home/by going out running or walking. Some of us need the help of machines, big puddles of water (swimming pools) or indoor venues. I wouldn't expect most able bodied people to understand, however and await being told everyone can run a bit, try Couch to 5k etc
Pools I grant you, not a home workout, but as far as resistance there is nothing you could do at the gym that you couldn’t do at home...I am making the assumption that you are not Olympic lifting here...apologies if you are! Cardio a little more difficult but not impossible depending on mobility. Not judging, each to their own & I am fully aware of the social aspect of gym use."I'm lifting quite a bit but from a reclined angle. I can only exercise seated or from my wheelchair. I've tried resistance bands but even if I tie all the colours together, it feels like I'm doing fuck all. I'm a wheelchair user | |||
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout! So is this the same as me saying, ive never needed a hospital in the last 20 years, everything I needed I got at the doctors, don't worry about hospitals, don't need them. No, its not the same at all, there are lots of ways you can exercise without going to a gym but not so much you can do at home that you need hospitals for There's lots of people who cannot easily exercise at home/by going out running or walking. Some of us need the help of machines, big puddles of water (swimming pools) or indoor venues. I wouldn't expect most able bodied people to understand, however and await being told everyone can run a bit, try Couch to 5k etc
Pools I grant you, not a home workout, but as far as resistance there is nothing you could do at the gym that you couldn’t do at home...I am making the assumption that you are not Olympic lifting here...apologies if you are! Cardio a little more difficult but not impossible depending on mobility. Not judging, each to their own & I am fully aware of the social aspect of gym use.
I'm lifting quite a bit but from a reclined angle. I can only exercise seated or from my wheelchair. I've tried resistance bands but even if I tie all the colours together, it feels like I'm doing fuck all.
I'm a wheelchair user "I guessed that, the biggest issue I have encountered with bands & wheelchairs is anchorage... both bands & chairs, sometimes with amusing consequences... | |||
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout! So is this the same as me saying, ive never needed a hospital in the last 20 years, everything I needed I got at the doctors, don't worry about hospitals, don't need them. No, its not the same at all, there are lots of ways you can exercise without going to a gym but not so much you can do at home that you need hospitals for " Maybe for you, but I haven't got the space or the money to replicate my gym workouts at home or anywhere else. | |||
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"Never needed a gym before lockdown, don’t need one after lockdown. By the time I travel to and from a gym I could have done a full workout! So is this the same as me saying, ive never needed a hospital in the last 20 years, everything I needed I got at the doctors, don't worry about hospitals, don't need them. No, its not the same at all, there are lots of ways you can exercise without going to a gym but not so much you can do at home that you need hospitals for There's lots of people who cannot easily exercise at home/by going out running or walking. Some of us need the help of machines, big puddles of water (swimming pools) or indoor venues. I wouldn't expect most able bodied people to understand, however and await being told everyone can run a bit, try Couch to 5k etc
Pools I grant you, not a home workout, but as far as resistance there is nothing you could do at the gym that you couldn’t do at home...I am making the assumption that you are not Olympic lifting here...apologies if you are! Cardio a little more difficult but not impossible depending on mobility. Not judging, each to their own & I am fully aware of the social aspect of gym use.
I'm lifting quite a bit but from a reclined angle. I can only exercise seated or from my wheelchair. I've tried resistance bands but even if I tie all the colours together, it feels like I'm doing fuck all.
I'm a wheelchair user
I guessed that, the biggest issue I have encountered with bands & wheelchairs is anchorage... both bands & chairs, sometimes with amusing consequences..."Yup. Even with my brakes on, my chair scoots forward if I anchor on a door and I've broken a fence on a tennis court trying to use them outdoors. I CBA trying anything else with them to be honest. I'm too strong for my own good hence why there's no hill I cannot surmount.... | |||
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"Gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places to visit I would think. Sweaty bodies giving of airborne particles and circuits relying on shared machines and equipment. Trouble with a capital T. Covid isn't an air born virus, you have to be within 2metres of someone for at least 10/15 minutes to catch it. And government research has showen that gyms were one of the least places you were likely to catch it. Below pubs, supermarkets, schools etc..." Exactly
They should of been allowed to stay open. It's for the benefit of people's mental and physical health. | |||
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