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"I've been working at home since last March and I hate it. " Yep, working from home definitely puts people into 1 of 2 defined groups..... Them what like it, and them what don't! | |||
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"I think it will be a mixture of both. I’ve been WFH since lockdown 1. I miss the banter, and the cat always makes excuses when it’s his tea round " | |||
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"I've been working at home since last March and I hate it. Yep, working from home definitely puts people into 1 of 2 defined groups..... Them what like it, and them what don't!" i usually find its folk with kids and / or a long commute that love it ... easier schools runs , less childcare cost , less commute time and cost ... all positives for people like me i lived walking distance from the office so no cost saving and minimal time , ive no kids so no cost or convenience there , its really isolating and i end up working twice as long because i am picking up slack for those on reduced hours for childcare requirements and because its hard to draw a boundary between work and home life when its just me at home and just me at work and its all under the same roof - i dont have anything dragging me away at finish time except netflix and i know i have a nagging to do list so whats the point , the result is my home life and work life are one and the same except the weekend for me its nothing but negatives , im doing extra for no extra in my pocket while others have stepped back and although they dont have extra in their pocket from the company they do have extra in their pocket weve been told in so many words it’s permanent and we will have occasional office days in “the hub” where we can get together with our team but it will be a rarity | |||
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"I bloody hope so. Its really hard to do a front facing role when you have no face to face contact and your clients have a habit of lying to you." Are you a murder detective? | |||
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"I bloody hope so. Its really hard to do a front facing role when you have no face to face contact and your clients have a habit of lying to you. Are you a murder detective? " No, probation staff! So the detective work has already been done! | |||
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"I've been working at home since last March and I hate it. Yep, working from home definitely puts people into 1 of 2 defined groups..... Them what like it, and them what don't! i usually find its folk with kids and / or a long commute that love it ... easier schools runs , less childcare cost , less commute time and cost ... all positives for people like me i lived walking distance from the office so no cost saving and minimal time , ive no kids so no cost or convenience there , its really isolating and i end up working twice as long because i am picking up slack for those on reduced hours for childcare requirements and because its hard to draw a boundary between work and home life when its just me at home and just me at work and its all under the same roof - i dont have anything dragging me away at finish time except netflix and i know i have a nagging to do list so whats the point , the result is my home life and work life are one and the same except the weekend for me its nothing but negatives , im doing extra for no extra in my pocket while others have stepped back and although they dont have extra in their pocket from the company they do have extra in their pocket weve been told in so many words it’s permanent and we will have occasional office days in “the hub” where we can get together with our team but it will be a rarity " I've been stuck WFH since last March and hate it. I have kids and always thought it would make life easier bit actually it's made it harder. They have no set routine, I get no break from them and my drive to and from the office was my small slice of alone time. Can't wait to get back to the office and see other adults and have adult conversations. I'm also less productive at home I'm much more focused in a work environment rather than surrounded by the choas of two kids by myself (partner and I live separately). However its likely we will have a hybrid of home and office working. It has however saved me a fortune in childcare but that's going on my heating and electric for my freezing house and dark room I'm working in | |||
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"I'm also working my normal hours around the kids no reduced hours and I've taken on more responsibility. Then add home schooling and I'm a little overwhelmed by it all." seems massively stressful ...everyone in my team with childcare responsibilities seems to be on a new contract of “just do what you can” i think its definitely less stressful and they prefer it when the kids are at school but then then they still disappear twice a day for school run - have to wonder how the kids got too and from school when they were in the office 9-5 before | |||
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"I'm also working my normal hours around the kids no reduced hours and I've taken on more responsibility. Then add home schooling and I'm a little overwhelmed by it all. seems massively stressful ...everyone in my team with childcare responsibilities seems to be on a new contract of “just do what you can” i think its definitely less stressful and they prefer it when the kids are at school but then then they still disappear twice a day for school run - have to wonder how the kids got too and from school when they were in the office 9-5 before " It's probably more difficult for them to get someone else to do it right now | |||
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"I'm also working my normal hours around the kids no reduced hours and I've taken on more responsibility. Then add home schooling and I'm a little overwhelmed by it all. seems massively stressful ...everyone in my team with childcare responsibilities seems to be on a new contract of “just do what you can” i think its definitely less stressful and they prefer it when the kids are at school but then then they still disappear twice a day for school run - have to wonder how the kids got too and from school when they were in the office 9-5 before " I still have to do the school runs but morning is before I start and afternoon I take a late lunch. I'm NHS so we are busy and staff redeployed. Though half term meant my team met our gerbils via MS teams today | |||
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"I'm also working my normal hours around the kids no reduced hours and I've taken on more responsibility. Then add home schooling and I'm a little overwhelmed by it all. seems massively stressful ...everyone in my team with childcare responsibilities seems to be on a new contract of “just do what you can” i think its definitely less stressful and they prefer it when the kids are at school but then then they still disappear twice a day for school run - have to wonder how the kids got too and from school when they were in the office 9-5 before " Wrap around care isn’t open in lots of cases I know my sons’ isn’t ..... | |||
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"I'm also working my normal hours around the kids no reduced hours and I've taken on more responsibility. Then add home schooling and I'm a little overwhelmed by it all. seems massively stressful ...everyone in my team with childcare responsibilities seems to be on a new contract of “just do what you can” i think its definitely less stressful and they prefer it when the kids are at school but then then they still disappear twice a day for school run - have to wonder how the kids got too and from school when they were in the office 9-5 before I still have to do the school runs but morning is before I start and afternoon I take a late lunch. I'm NHS so we are busy and staff redeployed. Though half term meant my team met our gerbils via MS teams today " we meet alot of cats and puppies too | |||
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"I'm also working my normal hours around the kids no reduced hours and I've taken on more responsibility. Then add home schooling and I'm a little overwhelmed by it all. seems massively stressful ...everyone in my team with childcare responsibilities seems to be on a new contract of “just do what you can” i think its definitely less stressful and they prefer it when the kids are at school but then then they still disappear twice a day for school run - have to wonder how the kids got too and from school when they were in the office 9-5 before " In normal times most schools provide wrap around care starting earlier and finishing later than standard school day. Many parents also normally have help from grandparents or friends. | |||
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"So reading this most are ok with the flexibility espesaly if schools where back to normal with school clubs befor and after work " i think flexibility is key and most people who talk about flexible think (or would like) that to mean they can work in the office when they want and home when they want but companies don't want to pay for offices sitting empty so their staff can be flexible and come and go when they please so i think its likely that it will be mostly home based with the “flexibilty” being one set day here or there wether that be per week or per month or even less often , that lets teams get together in person but the company can still plan for massively reduced office space | |||
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" I think flexibility is key and most people who talk about flexible think (or would like) that to mean they can work in the office when they want and home when they want but companies don't want to pay for offices sitting empty so their staff can be flexible and come and go when they please so i think its likely that it will be mostly home based with the “flexibility” being one set day here or there whether that be per week or per month or even less often , that lets teams get together in person but the company can still plan for massively reduced office space " Perhaps. My friend's company in London reimburse staff to come in to their office, and their monthly bill for expenses is approx 80K. He said to me that he's saved over 11 months 880K, which is pure profit on the bottom line for him. He said he'd save even more closing the office (Rent/Insurance/Etc). He's been very impressed with how his personnel have taken to using Teams and other remote working tools in their roles. This is a "bums must be on seats" kind of man (Company Director), and yet he's had an epiphany about remote working. He's seen a massive gain in productivity right across the board of his company. In truth it's only a few sales folks who are moaning the most about missing the office vibe, so he is considering getting a smaller office for them to keep them happy and have somewhere for clients to go. But apart from the benefits of remote working, the other thing he said to me was "I pay my Departmental Heads a higher wage as expected. Their job is to coordinate and orchestrate their teams. But in this time of remote working, the real coordinator are their Section Heads, who are keeping it all cohesive. I may have reevaluate the whole purpose of my Dept Heads. It seems like an unnecessary tier now." I don't pretend to understand how an insurer/broker works but I think there are going to be major changes ahead for a lot of companies involved in remote working and streamlining their operations. I also think a lot of mid to upper tier management are going to be wondering about their own futures as well as remote working may pull the rug from underneath them if they are not careful. | |||
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" I think flexibility is key and most people who talk about flexible think (or would like) that to mean they can work in the office when they want and home when they want but companies don't want to pay for offices sitting empty so their staff can be flexible and come and go when they please so i think its likely that it will be mostly home based with the “flexibility” being one set day here or there whether that be per week or per month or even less often , that lets teams get together in person but the company can still plan for massively reduced office space Perhaps. My friend's company in London reimburse staff to come in to their office, and their monthly bill for expenses is approx 80K. He said to me that he's saved over 11 months 880K, which is pure profit on the bottom line for him. He said he'd save even more closing the office (Rent/Insurance/Etc). He's been very impressed with how his personnel have taken to using Teams and other remote working tools in their roles. This is a "bums must be on seats" kind of man (Company Director), and yet he's had an epiphany about remote working. He's seen a massive gain in productivity right across the board of his company. In truth it's only a few sales folks who are moaning the most about missing the office vibe, so he is considering getting a smaller office for them to keep them happy and have somewhere for clients to go. But apart from the benefits of remote working, the other thing he said to me was "I pay my Departmental Heads a higher wage as expected. Their job is to coordinate and orchestrate their teams. But in this time of remote working, the real coordinator are their Section Heads, who are keeping it all cohesive. I may have reevaluate the whole purpose of my Dept Heads. It seems like an unnecessary tier now." I don't pretend to understand how an insurer/broker works but I think there are going to be major changes ahead for a lot of companies involved in remote working and streamlining their operations. I also think a lot of mid to upper tier management are going to be wondering about their own futures as well as remote working may pull the rug from underneath them if they are not careful." ive found the opposite - almost half my week is now spent going in circles on the phone hand holding and shimmying along staff that i would never have had to do in the office , something that would be a 2 line instruction over a partition before is now a 20 min call with a screen share if you are lucky, usually with an extra 10 min tacked on at the beginning for chit chat to keep people feeling connected - if anything i feel like we now need an additional manager to just be a workflow coordinator granted what we do is quite niche and complex and its a junior team that would normally have needed an intense 6 months training in the office , thats all taken longer at home and without sitting beside each other overhearing things and bouncing ideas off each other none of them seem to have developed the confidence to just go at it on their own the way their predecessors would have ... tried so many ways to get them to stand on their own 2 feet and the only thing i can blame now is this remote working as its not an issue we ever had previously | |||
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"Did everyone notice the media and Govt rhetoric back around September. There was criticism of people working from home. Town centre ghost towns due to lack of office workers. Guilt trip being put on people because they weren’t buying sandwiches etc. All driven by commercial landlords (many donors to Tory party) worried about the future loss of rental income from office and retail space. Town planners and landlords will need to think more creatively in future. They need to: - convert unwanted office space into affordable homes (already with fast broadband connection) - revitalise town centres by having a community living there - enables many ppl to WFH but in closer proximity to the reduced office space to allow short/easy commute - revitalises local retail by creating a market/demand from worker/residents - creates jobs because once you start building a community they will need services (such as doctors and schools) - good for environment with less long distance commuting - better for work/life balance Win win I say! Plus a lot of pension investment portfolios are loaded with commercial property so they need a way forward! " I am loving the way you are thinking, the situation we are all in should encourage thinking differently (and no I am not going down the great reset road)...how to make this work for us, the pause is an opportunity, sadly I think one that will be squandered. | |||
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"When I was starting work, lockdown would have driven me mad, work was brill, in the city centre, made some good friends that I still treasure & see...well used to... let’s say still in touch..but now not so much, I have made some very good friendships in the last 3 years or so that will last. I miss seeing them & love hearing their voices when we call. But the kids who were the age I was? Nah, don’t need them, they need peers more than they need me." I miss the hustle and bustle, the banter in our office, the opportunities to innovate and bash ideas out by the photocopier (I don't miss the fecking copier!) I desperately miss the actual students. Most of the time, I see their initials in a little circle and that's all I've seen of many of them this year | |||
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"Did everyone notice the media and Govt rhetoric back around September. There was criticism of people working from home. Town centre ghost towns due to lack of office workers. Guilt trip being put on people because they weren’t buying sandwiches etc. All driven by commercial landlords (many donors to Tory party) worried about the future loss of rental income from office and retail space. Town planners and landlords will need to think more creatively in future. They need to: - convert unwanted office space into affordable homes (already with fast broadband connection) - revitalise town centres by having a community living there - enables many ppl to WFH but in closer proximity to the reduced office space to allow short/easy commute - revitalises local retail by creating a market/demand from worker/residents - creates jobs because once you start building a community they will need services (such as doctors and schools) - good for environment with less long distance commuting - better for work/life balance Win win I say! Plus a lot of pension investment portfolios are loaded with commercial property so they need a way forward! " Love what you have put as it's just how I see it. WFH could be more cash in your pocket if not commuting so then shopping local back to a town with a butcher baker and a green grosser so much better for health and community. As for large offices and shops housing would make a good use of city town space | |||
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"When I was starting work, lockdown would have driven me mad, work was brill, in the city centre, made some good friends that I still treasure & see...well used to... let’s say still in touch..but now not so much, I have made some very good friendships in the last 3 years or so that will last. I miss seeing them & love hearing their voices when we call. But the kids who were the age I was? Nah, don’t need them, they need peers more than they need me. I miss the hustle and bustle, the banter in our office, the opportunities to innovate and bash ideas out by the photocopier (I don't miss the fecking copier!) I desperately miss the actual students. Most of the time, I see their initials in a little circle and that's all I've seen of many of them this year " You remind me...our best team ideas came when driving from event to event in the van & shooting the breeze. Now that I miss. | |||
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"When I was starting work, lockdown would have driven me mad, work was brill, in the city centre, made some good friends that I still treasure & see...well used to... let’s say still in touch..but now not so much, I have made some very good friendships in the last 3 years or so that will last. I miss seeing them & love hearing their voices when we call. But the kids who were the age I was? Nah, don’t need them, they need peers more than they need me. I miss the hustle and bustle, the banter in our office, the opportunities to innovate and bash ideas out by the photocopier (I don't miss the fecking copier!) I desperately miss the actual students. Most of the time, I see their initials in a little circle and that's all I've seen of many of them this year You remind me...our best team ideas came when driving from event to event in the van & shooting the breeze. Now that I miss." Some of my best innovations came in the car on the way in - time where my brain had space, whilst singing along to heavy metal or my son's music | |||
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"I NEED MY HUSBAND TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! He is here all the time lol. We are not used to this much time together. I work 14 hour shifts, come home and he has got so lazy. Never saw this side to him before but it's getting to the point where I'm gonna find him another job " We work for the same organisation and have have been working from home since March and it's been great, actually! We do normally bump into each other during the day at the college, but it's been brilliant having lunch together or sitting directly together in meetings | |||
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"I NEED MY HUSBAND TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! He is here all the time lol. We are not used to this much time together. I work 14 hour shifts, come home and he has got so lazy. Never saw this side to him before but it's getting to the point where I'm gonna find him another job We work for the same organisation and have have been working from home since March and it's been great, actually! We do normally bump into each other during the day at the college, but it's been brilliant having lunch together or sitting directly together in meetings " I am one of those people who could happily live on my own. I like my independence. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, familiarity breeds contempt ... for me anyway | |||
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"I NEED MY HUSBAND TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! He is here all the time lol. We are not used to this much time together. I work 14 hour shifts, come home and he has got so lazy. Never saw this side to him before but it's getting to the point where I'm gonna find him another job " is he on furlough or working from home? i think people have a perception that because you are physically in the house all day you can be chipping in more around the house all day , just stick a washing on here, do the dish washer there etc i know when i am working i am just as busy if not more so at home so luckily i live on my own and when nothing has been touched in the house all day i know its because its no different to the fact nothing would have been done had i been in the actual office can imagine its causing tension for couples but loads of jobs just wouldn’t afford you the time to do housework during the work day even if working from home | |||
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"I NEED MY HUSBAND TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! He is here all the time lol. We are not used to this much time together. I work 14 hour shifts, come home and he has got so lazy. Never saw this side to him before but it's getting to the point where I'm gonna find him another job is he on furlough or working from home? i think people have a perception that because you are physically in the house all day you can be chipping in more around the house all day , just stick a washing on here, do the dish washer there etc i know when i am working i am just as busy if not more so at home so luckily i live on my own and when nothing has been touched in the house all day i know its because its no different to the fact nothing would have been done had i been in the actual office can imagine its causing tension for couples but loads of jobs just wouldn’t afford you the time to do housework during the work day even if working from home " He is on furlough, I do 14 hour shifts and do the dishwasher and washing machine He is far more productive at work | |||
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"I NEED MY HUSBAND TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! He is here all the time lol. We are not used to this much time together. I work 14 hour shifts, come home and he has got so lazy. Never saw this side to him before but it's getting to the point where I'm gonna find him another job We work for the same organisation and have have been working from home since March and it's been great, actually! We do normally bump into each other during the day at the college, but it's been brilliant having lunch together or sitting directly together in meetings I am one of those people who could happily live on my own. I like my independence. Absence makes the heart grow fonder, familiarity breeds contempt ... for me anyway " We've never spent quite this much time together. We both have live student facing sessions in the mornings mainly so we work in separate rooms in the morning then often work in the same room in the afternoon. | |||
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"I NEED MY HUSBAND TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! He is here all the time lol. We are not used to this much time together. I work 14 hour shifts, come home and he has got so lazy. Never saw this side to him before but it's getting to the point where I'm gonna find him another job " I guess he is fit and well Give him jobs to do. I'm off getting over covid. Today's list Change and wash the bedding Do the wife's laundry Vacume walk the dogs Make tomorows lunch for the wife. Get a G & T ready for when she gets home Sounds like he needs a push | |||
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"I NEED MY HUSBAND TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! He is here all the time lol. We are not used to this much time together. I work 14 hour shifts, come home and he has got so lazy. Never saw this side to him before but it's getting to the point where I'm gonna find him another job I guess he is fit and well Give him jobs to do. I'm off getting over covid. Today's list Change and wash the bedding Do the wife's laundry Vacume walk the dogs Make tomorows lunch for the wife. Get a G & T ready for when she gets home Sounds like he needs a push " Come and train him | |||
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"I NEED MY HUSBAND TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! He is here all the time lol. We are not used to this much time together. I work 14 hour shifts, come home and he has got so lazy. Never saw this side to him before but it's getting to the point where I'm gonna find him another job is he on furlough or working from home? i think people have a perception that because you are physically in the house all day you can be chipping in more around the house all day , just stick a washing on here, do the dish washer there etc i know when i am working i am just as busy if not more so at home so luckily i live on my own and when nothing has been touched in the house all day i know its because its no different to the fact nothing would have been done had i been in the actual office can imagine its causing tension for couples but loads of jobs just wouldn’t afford you the time to do housework during the work day even if working from home He is on furlough, I do 14 hour shifts and do the dishwasher and washing machine He is far more productive at work " then you 100% have my sympathies | |||
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"How meany are now working from home? And do you think you will ever go back in to the office full time? Or will working from home be the new normal " Team has been working from home since last March (though I haven't been in my office since Sept 2019 as I got signed off with stress).... but even though I haven't been in the office for about a year and a half, i really don't miss it much. Im more than happy to keep working from home. It's been the upside for me during all of this In an ideal world I'd get to carry on working away from the office but get to choose a location abroad for my 'home' office. Sadly there's no point getting my hopes up on that one any time soon though | |||
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"How meany are now working from home? And do you think you will ever go back in to the office full time? Or will working from home be the new normal Team has been working from home since last March (though I haven't been in my office since Sept 2019 as I got signed off with stress).... but even though I haven't been in the office for about a year and a half, i really don't miss it much. Im more than happy to keep working from home. It's been the upside for me during all of this In an ideal world I'd get to carry on working away from the office but get to choose a location abroad for my 'home' office. Sadly there's no point getting my hopes up on that one any time soon though " ive thought about this too but you need to be careful not to become tax resident in 2 countries too | |||
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"How meany are now working from home? And do you think you will ever go back in to the office full time? Or will working from home be the new normal Team has been working from home since last March (though I haven't been in my office since Sept 2019 as I got signed off with stress).... but even though I haven't been in the office for about a year and a half, i really don't miss it much. Im more than happy to keep working from home. It's been the upside for me during all of this In an ideal world I'd get to carry on working away from the office but get to choose a location abroad for my 'home' office. Sadly there's no point getting my hopes up on that one any time soon though ive thought about this too but you need to be careful not to become tax resident in 2 countries too " Ok so if you live and work abroad you pay tax in that country if when it comes to the UK you are seen to have paid the same or more then if you where in the uk then there is no more tax to pay. But it dose get complicated on doing self asesment in a for in country and then the UK one | |||
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"I NEED MY HUSBAND TO GO BACK TO WORK!!! He is here all the time lol. We are not used to this much time together. I work 14 hour shifts, come home and he has got so lazy. Never saw this side to him before but it's getting to the point where I'm gonna find him another job I guess he is fit and well Give him jobs to do. I'm off getting over covid. Today's list Change and wash the bedding Do the wife's laundry Vacume walk the dogs Make tomorows lunch for the wife. Get a G & T ready for when she gets home Sounds like he needs a push Come and train him " Would love to but can't travel at the moment so will have to wate But really give him some small robs to do get him to empty the bins and then thank him and tell him how much time it saves you | |||
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"Working from home nearly 12 months now & enjoying it. No commute, no buying coffee or lunches. Meetings online when needed rather than traipsing miles saving time, my patience and I suppose more eco friendly. What's not to like? Would usually have caught colds or bugs from some of those determined to go into work & spread their germs and obviously not had any of that this year. Long may it continue." You know what's going to happen as soon as everyone comes out of theoretical shielding with lower immunity from no exposure don't you? | |||
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"Working from home nearly 12 months now & enjoying it. No commute, no buying coffee or lunches. Meetings online when needed rather than traipsing miles saving time, my patience and I suppose more eco friendly. What's not to like? Would usually have caught colds or bugs from some of those determined to go into work & spread their germs and obviously not had any of that this year. Long may it continue. You know what's going to happen as soon as everyone comes out of theoretical shielding with lower immunity from no exposure don't you? " Yer they will all get a cold and runny nose | |||
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"How meany are now working from home? And do you think you will ever go back in to the office full time? Or will working from home be the new normal Team has been working from home since last March (though I haven't been in my office since Sept 2019 as I got signed off with stress).... but even though I haven't been in the office for about a year and a half, i really don't miss it much. Im more than happy to keep working from home. It's been the upside for me during all of this In an ideal world I'd get to carry on working away from the office but get to choose a location abroad for my 'home' office. Sadly there's no point getting my hopes up on that one any time soon though ive thought about this too but you need to be careful not to become tax resident in 2 countries too Ok so if you live and work abroad you pay tax in that country if when it comes to the UK you are seen to have paid the same or more then if you where in the uk then there is no more tax to pay. But it dose get complicated on doing self asesment in a for in country and then the UK one " not necessarily, it depends the laws of the country , the period you spend in each country to end up dual tax resident and if the country has dual tax rules in place which mean you will only pay maximum the highest rate from either country as a total (bill may be split across each country depending whos rate is higher) but if no dual tax rule in place you will just be paying full tax twice no guarantee any agreements in place with uk dont start to change now that free movement has stopped after brexit aswel | |||
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"How meany are now working from home? And do you think you will ever go back in to the office full time? Or will working from home be the new normal Team has been working from home since last March (though I haven't been in my office since Sept 2019 as I got signed off with stress).... but even though I haven't been in the office for about a year and a half, i really don't miss it much. Im more than happy to keep working from home. It's been the upside for me during all of this In an ideal world I'd get to carry on working away from the office but get to choose a location abroad for my 'home' office. Sadly there's no point getting my hopes up on that one any time soon though ive thought about this too but you need to be careful not to become tax resident in 2 countries too Ok so if you live and work abroad you pay tax in that country if when it comes to the UK you are seen to have paid the same or more then if you where in the uk then there is no more tax to pay. But it dose get complicated on doing self asesment in a for in country and then the UK one not necessarily, it depends the laws of the country , the period you spend in each country to end up dual tax resident and if the country has dual tax rules in place which mean you will only pay maximum the highest rate from either country as a total (bill may be split across each country depending whos rate is higher) but if no dual tax rule in place you will just be paying full tax twice no guarantee any agreements in place with uk dont start to change now that free movement has stopped after brexit aswel " 0ok so all of some where hot and warm | |||
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"How meany are now working from home? And do you think you will ever go back in to the office full time? Or will working from home be the new normal " Yep. I’ve been saying for year I can and being told I couldn’t. Turns out I can. | |||
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"How meany are now working from home? And do you think you will ever go back in to the office full time? Or will working from home be the new normal Yep. I’ve been saying for year I can and being told I couldn’t. Turns out I can. " So I guess you like it and are happy. Like meany. | |||
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