FabSwingers.com forum: Another year of distancing

By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago

London

Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

Vaccinations are working

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants."

If it has to be done then so be it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, if we must..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll be happy to do another year like last year.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No way they are saying September they can fuck off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants."

No I can't cope with another year of social distancing.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

no I don't think I can do another year. If I have to I will but I can already feel my horizons shrinking

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By *oixosMan
over a year ago

London

If you still believe whatever the MSM says you’re part of the problem

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

To what extent?

We managed a shopping trip and dinner in London and a family day out to Southend last year. All by train to London and me and 2 kids by train to Southend.

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By *rimKardashianMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

MSM?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"MSM?"

main stream media

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'd struggle, but yes I could

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"If you still believe whatever the MSM says you’re part of the problem"

What, in your opinion is the 'problem'?

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By *ictoria_1976TV/TS
over a year ago

Lanson

Yeah - bring it on!

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"Vaccinations are working "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No I don’t want too, and tbh shouldn’t have too, vaccines are working and if we have a proper roadmap out of lockdown, we will all be in a better place within the next few months.

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By *ustfun 1984Man
over a year ago

exeter

The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, I can, as long as we can see family.

I actually hope the 2 metre rule in public places continues forever.

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"If you still believe whatever the MSM says you’re part of the problem"

Problem?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

If that's what we have to do then yes... knowing I'm a social creature who would pine in confinement I found a way around the original restrictions that worked for me and others. I volunteered for all sorts. Sounds silly but as a petrol head the thought of not driving my car depressed me.. so I volunteered for a 20mile radius.... means I got/ get to drive down some awesome roads.

I'm always meeting new people within the volunteering. I've expanded my skill set and the bonus is I've been helping others..

Most of the jobs I'm doing currently is email or call based but thats due to this time around my daughter having to shield (Downs syndrome wasn't classified as clinically vulnerable the first time) so she is stuck at home... no groups extra.

I am also helping with the vaccine effort and loving that... so could I... someone who is normally out socialising a lot,social distance for another year... yes.... although I am missing my grandkids a lot xxx

For my other love motorsport being a marshal I have still been able to go to some events last year and have a few booked in..

However if I couldn't volunteer, I'd have gone stir crazy

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By *BWarksCouple
over a year ago

warwick

No to social distancing...... we don’t do it now . Normal life is needed

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

"If that's what we have to do then yes... knowing I'm a social creature who would pine in confinement I found a way around the original restrictions that worked for me and others. I volunteered for all sorts. Sounds silly but as a petrol head the thought of not driving my car depressed me.. so I volunteered for a 20mile radius.... means I got/ get to drive down some awesome roads.

I'm always meeting new people within the volunteering. I've expanded my skill set and the bonus is I've been helping others..

For my other love motorsport being a marshal I have still been able to go to some events last year and have a few booked in..

However if I couldn't volunteer, I'd have gone stir crazy "

Well done you. A win win all round.

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

Another year of social distancing

Ergh I'm going to have to form an adult 'bubble'

(I can't take that word seriously, I know it's been nearly a year but I just can't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

if you look at the graphs the virus was very very quiet during July and August and beginning of September . so one hopes that with vaccinating a third of adults by then will make the summer even better... if there is not even a trial of ending social distancing the emotional damage will last lifetimes. it has to be managed somehow.. someway

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By *eorge JetsonMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

"Vaccinations are working

BBC news right now.

1100 more deaths in 24 hours.

But vaccinations are working

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS
over a year ago

Plymouth

Until the world is vaccinated we're at risk from new strains which the current vaccines may not work against. The only way we can logically protect ourselves against that is to either continue social distancing until the world is vaccinated, estimated to be the end of 2023, or close the borders and allow a vaccinated UK to relax the other conditions in a bubble from the world. Or we take a chance that no new strains will be more deadly than the current known strains. It's all ifs and buts, so far being reactive to the current situation hasn't been too successful.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Until the world is vaccinated we're at risk from new strains which the current vaccines may not work against. The only way we can logically protect ourselves against that is to either continue social distancing until the world is vaccinated, estimated to be the end of 2023, or close the borders and allow a vaccinated UK to relax the other conditions in a bubble from the world. Or we take a chance that no new strains will be more deadly than the current known strains. It's all ifs and buts, so far being reactive to the current situation hasn't been too successful. "

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

People are type more robust, as a whole, than we often think. I could cope with another year and have been through much worse, albeit I carry the cumulative load of all that has ever happened to me.

I'd be worn down, have found new ways to cope but I'd not be close to the state that many refugees are, by the time they arrive at a new country.

It's not happening that we'll get a continuation of what we have today. Things will have relaxed somewhat.

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

I’d do another year of lockdown if, at the end of it, we knew it was all over.

I know this isn’t reality, and do realise I’ve generally been lucky with how I’ve felt in lockdown - it’s obviously very, very different for many/most.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like the virus, lockdowns are with us forever, it's for the greater good in our new normal

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

"Like the virus, lockdowns are with us forever, it's for the greater good in our new normal

Don't be stupid

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By *izzy69 OP Man
over a year ago

London

"No I don’t want too, and tbh shouldn’t have too, vaccines are working and if we have a proper roadmap out of lockdown, we will all be in a better place within the next few months.

I'd like to agree with you, however, the latest view is that even after the whole country is vaccinated, we may still have to wear masks and keep our distance for a short perod.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, I can, as long as we can see family.

I actually hope the 2 metre rule in public places continues forever."

So if that's forever, you're just happy to do virtual meets as opposed to real meets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Vaccinations are working

BBC news right now.

1100 more deaths in 24 hours.

But vaccinations are working "

Who have tested positive with covid in the previous 28 days

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We just have to accept it its here for a long time to come in some form or another I feel sorry for the younger people of the planet most of us on here have had a lot of fun in the past young people have no prospects for the foreseeable future or social life hopefully in couple of years time things will settle but untill vaccines work with all strains all over the world we just have to live with restrictions hopefully little lighter then now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Like the virus, lockdowns are with us forever, it's for the greater good in our new normal

So why are you still on a sex site?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It appears that the majority of fabswingers forum users want to stay in lockdown of one type or another

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World

Yep, people get irritating after a while and I am happy in my own company.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

Yes, no problem.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well not had any for about 12 years so what's another year if I'm still around.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

social interaction of less than 6ft with any human being that's not someone you live with.. fucking hell thought we all had it bad

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

More like could I cope with this forum!

It's so depressing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants."

Easy to say when you are in you 30s 40s 50s. No I cant cope with it. Ive been on my own nearly the whole year another no I cant . I have precious few years left

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By *eoeclipseWoman
over a year ago

glasgow

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants.

Easy to say when you are in you 30s 40s 50s. No I cant cope with it. Ive been on my own nearly the whole year another no I cant . I have precious few years left"

I can't do another year, defo not in the city.

somewhat like yourself I am not expected to even live anywhere near as long as the ones dying now...be lucky if I ever claim a pension even & I'm already over years my 'expected end of able bodied mobility'...so no live is now, now all we ever get, tomorrow is not guaranteed for anyone & I won't do another year in a box...I'll be alone in the wilderness if I have to but I ain't no prisoner when I have no criminal record and trying to blame folk for transmitting something which is invisible & it's own living being is just abhorrent in mindset...that's just nature unfortunately and let it be a big wake up call that we're not above it and the damage we have all paid into with consumer greed will only make the years to come much worse in unseen ways.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No I don’t want too, and tbh shouldn’t have too, vaccines are working and if we have a proper roadmap out of lockdown, we will all be in a better place within the next few months.

I'd like to agree with you, however, the latest view is that even after the whole country is vaccinated, we may still have to wear masks and keep our distance for a short perod. "

We are going to have to do it until more people everywhere world is vaccinated than not i think.

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By *AYENCouple
over a year ago

Lincolnshire

I'm always meeting new people within the volunteering. I've expanded my skill set and the bonus is I've been helping others..

For my other love motorsport being a marshal I have still been able to go to some events last year and have a few booked in..

However if I couldn't volunteer, I'd have gone stir crazy "

Wow, positivity in its most glorious form

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too be honest,I've struggled, too many downs, any small glimmer of hope, feels like an uncontrollable rush of euphoria,almost to the extent of shaking,but quickly disappears

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Yes, I can, as long as we can see family.

I actually hope the 2 metre rule in public places continues forever."

Me too. I think some peoples cleanliness away from a pandemic is not great anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you take the % of the population that they say have had it and yes there is then some immunity similar to those vaccinated and the % of people vaccinated then it should actually be nearing 40% of the population so hopefully by summer there will be effects from herd immunity filtering in and the number of cases drastically reducing...unless new strains appear where any former immunity is totally ineffective .so for the fearful ones and doom and gloom spreaders we shouldn't have lockdowns for too much longer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, I can, as long as we can see family.

I actually hope the 2 metre rule in public places continues forever.

So if that's forever, you're just happy to do virtual meets as opposed to real meets "

Selfishly it doesn't matter either way to me, as I no longer meet for sex.

I do however feel for those who are feeling isolated, alone and in despair of another year of this.

My comment was more aimed at the fact I would like it to be the social norm that strangers stay 2 meters away, unless invited into another's personal space.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, I can, as long as we can see family.

I actually hope the 2 metre rule in public places continues forever.

So if that's forever, you're just happy to do virtual meets as opposed to real meets

Selfishly it doesn't matter either way to me, as I no longer meet for sex.

I do however feel for those who are feeling isolated, alone and in despair of another year of this.

My comment was more aimed at the fact I would like it to be the social norm that strangers stay 2 meters away, unless invited into another's personal space."

It is not practical in normal life to stay 2 metres away from people permanently in public areas.

I agree however that it would be nice if people kept a reasonable distance and didn't get so close to you in queues that they could fk you up the ass. X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"social interaction of less than 6ft with any human being that's not someone you live with.. fucking hell thought we all had it bad "

Explain that comment please.

Are you having a go at people who think it bad we can't have physical contact with anyone outside our households?

You are a couple and have each other. Some of us are single with no sex or human affection, cuddles, kisses ect..for a year or more.

We cannot date to find someone and cannot find a fuck buddy at the moment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes, I can, as long as we can see family.

I actually hope the 2 metre rule in public places continues forever.

So if that's forever, you're just happy to do virtual meets as opposed to real meets

Selfishly it doesn't matter either way to me, as I no longer meet for sex.

I do however feel for those who are feeling isolated, alone and in despair of another year of this.

My comment was more aimed at the fact I would like it to be the social norm that strangers stay 2 meters away, unless invited into another's personal space.

It is not practical in normal life to stay 2 metres away from people permanently in public areas.

I agree however that it would be nice if people kept a reasonable distance and didn't get so close to you in queues that they could fk you up the ass. X"

Lots of new things aren't practical in every day life.

We adapt and get used it them.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

"Vaccinations are working

BBC news right now.

1100 more deaths in 24 hours.

But vaccinations are working "

How many of those 1100 had the vaccine though. Ridiculous comment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Social distancing v the alternative? I'll take social distancing every time thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’d take social distancing over lockdowns for a bit longer. But give us some sort of solace, I don’t think I could last much longer in lockdown as I’m about to do a full on Britney 2006 to my hair ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yep, people get irritating after a while and I am happy in my own company."

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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago

West Wales and Cardiff

I completely sympathise with people who can’t face more lockdowns and social distance. Having struggled with mental health badly in the past, I know this would cause very severe problems for lots of people.

The issue is - we have to get this right. I’ve seen how this virus has devastated people (I work in healthcare). An individual may understandably feel “I have to get my life back”, but get this wrong and many others who had years of life to look forward to will lose them altogether.

Cautious and sensible, with small steps back to normality at the right time, seems the way forward to me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants."

In reality we will have another year of living with the virus, that’s guaranteed. As with any of these subjects it’s not as black and white as simply deaths or as in this case a timeframe.

We know from last year we had a fairly open and relaxed summer, this year will have some limitations and other implications on it but we’ll also have positive changes too.

This is the world we live in now, perhaps just embrace it whatever it ends up looking like and make the best of it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No to social distancing...... we don’t do it now . Normal life is needed "

Glad you’re proud of that... beyond selfish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up "
. I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well based on this mornings news headlines we will not be getting back to normal anytime soon.

Bristol variant can evade the vaccine so things are back to square one..let’s hope some new treatments become available rather than vaccines

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s"

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

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By *edGrayCouple
over a year ago

Swindon

Social distancing, yes. Lockdowns,no.

I actually like that people keep their distance in the street,shops & restaurants.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants.

In reality we will have another year of living with the virus, that’s guaranteed. As with any of these subjects it’s not as black and white as simply deaths or as in this case a timeframe.

We know from last year we had a fairly open and relaxed summer, this year will have some limitations and other implications on it but we’ll also have positive changes too.

This is the world we live in now, perhaps just embrace it whatever it ends up looking like and make the best of it. "

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

The rise in cases in the uk fits time wise with universities and schools returning. I know this isn't 100% proof. Pubs and restaurants were open for at least a couple of months prior to that with only a small rise in cases. I know its common consenus that younger children don't catch and spread covid but i suspect this is at least partly down to obtaining a true swab sample from children esoecially younger ones.

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By *bi_AstrayTV/TS
over a year ago

Plymouth

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

This information should be available from the best track and trace system in the world, shouldn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ignore the headlines, media are speculating on worst case to sell papers and chase clicks.

Government did say they’d review and knowing the Tory’s they won’t want to keep paying furlough etc.

I expect small steps aimed at getting back to approaching normal by June

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"social interaction of less than 6ft with any human being that's not someone you live with.. fucking hell thought we all had it bad

Explain that comment please.

Are you having a go at people who think it bad we can't have physical contact with anyone outside our households?

You are a couple and have each other. Some of us are single with no sex or human affection, cuddles, kisses ect..for a year or more.

We cannot date to find someone and cannot find a fuck buddy at the moment.

the guy i replied to was going on about not having had any for 12 years...

know lucky to be a couple and i think it is legal to date.. dating sites are still allowed or is there a warning on them not to meet too? .. any clarification on this anyone

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Struggling now to be honest.Very vulnerable people in my close family, getting on a bit myself, death of my partner a couple of years since, I just feel tired of it.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

So no evidence at all then. I have none either but can suggest a different interpretation.

The rampant rise in december.

Crowds of 2000 allowed back into football matches. Xmas shopping craziness. More realistically I think there is no one reason across the country. I think reasons will be different in different regions. In some cases schools, in others shops, in others parties, in others crowds. But without any fact based evidence you and I are guessing.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Struggling now to be honest.Very vulnerable people in my close family, getting on a bit myself, death of my partner a couple of years since, I just feel tired of it. "

You're very much not alone. It will get better but it's going to take time. And it will take longer of we continue to dance around reducing infection and unless we get better understanding of how and where it is spread. Good luck.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

This information should be available from the best track and trace system in the world, shouldn't it? "

They haven't used best in the world verbiage for a long time. Not least it is well known that people are refusing to comply with providing accurate information and adhering to guidance.. But that's someone else's fault right? If you have any links that would be helpful. If you just want to pick scabs not quite so helpful.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

So no evidence at all then. I have none either but can suggest a different interpretation.

The rampant rise in december.

I don't disagree with what you are saying completely and all the things will have contributed to the R number rising, but the big rise came 1 to 2 weeks after schools and universities went back. Sage gave estimates of how much measures made to the R number and the 2 things closing that made a big difference was closing all none essential businesses, closing schools and colleges . All the other measures put together were not as effective the 2 main measures. If the government wanted to open the country around xmas time they should not have opened education up.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

So no evidence at all then. I have none either but can suggest a different interpretation.

The rampant rise in december.

Unis have been closed since last March. Schools since Dec 14 ish... So why have infection rates not dropped through the floor of they are responsible for infections?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Universities definitely opened for teaching in September, students came in. It's why one of the student areas near me was one of the highest rates in the country for awhile in I think early October.

Obviously there are multiple sources of infection, and variants change the picture.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

So no evidence at all then. I have none either but can suggest a different interpretation.

The rampant rise in december.

Unis have been closed since last March. Schools since Dec 14 ish... So why have infection rates not dropped through the floor of they are responsible for infections? "

Far more kids are still at school now than the first lockdown. Cases rose because of xmas socialising too. When the pubs reopened in july daily infection rate was 6 to 700. 2 months laterat the beginning of september the rate was around 1000 to 1100. One month later the daily infection rate wàs nearly 16000. That is a doubling around every 7 days. What else changed at the beginning of September?

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By *uffolksubWoman
over a year ago

Brandon

"More like could I cope with this forum!

It's so depressing"

Then why are you still on it?!!

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By *ools and the brainCouple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"If you still believe whatever the MSM says you’re part of the problem"

Ridiculous post.

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By *sm265Woman
over a year ago

Shangri-la

If it is deemed necessary then yes absolutely. Even when restrictions were eased after the first lockdown I continued to be very careful & didn't feel any need to do a lot of the things that were "allowed". When this lockdown ends there will undoubtedly be restrictions remaining in place & that's absolutely fine by me.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

So no evidence at all then. I have none either but can suggest a different interpretation.

The rampant rise in december.

Unis have been closed since last March. Schools since Dec 14 ish... So why have infection rates not dropped through the floor of they are responsible for infections? "

In the case of my niece she chose to go back in December, as did many others there it seems, even though there's no face to face lectures. Her housemates all went home for the weekend a few weeks ago, my niece went to Liverpool.

The problem is 'they' can't control people's movements, there's not even manpower.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

To answer your OP though, no I don't think I could do another year of social distancing. I'm missing little things, but watching my children crumbling is breaking my heart.

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By *tarbeckCouple
over a year ago

york

"Vaccinations are working "

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over a year ago

"To answer your OP though, no I don't think I could do another year of social distancing. I'm missing little things, but watching my children crumbling is breaking my heart. "

this.. the hidden effects are the worst

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up . I don’t see that as the reason. Children going back to school, universities etc caused the problem to resurge. Not people getting to close in tesco’s

Do you have any links or evidence for that? I've been trying to find any data on where people are being infected so would be interested in seeing where you get that info from

So no evidence at all then. I have none either but can suggest a different interpretation.

The rampant rise in december.

Unis have been closed since last March. Schools since Dec 14 ish... So why have infection rates not dropped through the floor of they are responsible for infections?

Unfortunately my memory isn't that great... But many things change. Not least plane loads of travellers returning unfettered from holidays. If schools are to blame why haven't more school kids infections been found? Many unis have. Or had face to face lectures since March. Many students have not returned to halls or rented accommodation. It's more complex than clumsily blaming one demographic with no facts to back it up.

The point is surely that whilst some of us have been trying to keep community infection rates down since the start. Some have not. Once the community infection rate explodes it is a self fulfilling prophecy that anyone can infect anyone. Which is what we saw and community infections are still way too high to manage by a factor of 50. We are a long way from out of the woods yet.

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By *arakiss12TV/TS
over a year ago

Bedford

i don`t expect to be out and about like normal until spring next year, providing things improve.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

If that's what's needed to get back to relative normality, with booster jabs etc before the 'unrealistic' police come in. Then yes, that'd be fine. I can cope with anything.

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

If staying a few meters away, wearing a thin piece of cloth in front of my face and washing my mitts would mean someone's mum or dad or other loved one would stay fit and well longer, I would see it as a privilege to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I could change my bubble to a certain hottie on here, then I'd happily social distance myself from the rest of the world.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"If staying a few meters away, wearing a thin piece of cloth in front of my face and washing my mitts would mean someone's mum or dad or other loved one would stay fit and well longer, I would see it as a privilege to do so.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

More like you please

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over a year ago

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The vaccine is supposed to do this . "

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

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over a year ago

The vaccine is supposed to do this . "

yes it is a privilege to be kind and courteous to others but another future needs to be sought at the same time

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait."

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent. "

If you say so.

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so."

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants.

In reality we will have another year of living with the virus, that’s guaranteed. As with any of these subjects it’s not as black and white as simply deaths or as in this case a timeframe.

We know from last year we had a fairly open and relaxed summer, this year will have some limitations and other implications on it but we’ll also have positive changes too.

This is the world we live in now, perhaps just embrace it whatever it ends up looking like and make the best of it. "

Guaranteed by whom?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?"

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop."

Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together. "

I'm trying. As you know.

If we can stop mixing globally for awhile, drive down local rates etc... We can get this sorted. (Hopefully, obviously countries like Tanzania where they flat out deny it will be an issue long term)

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together.

I'm trying. As you know.

If we can stop mixing globally for awhile, drive down local rates etc... We can get this sorted. (Hopefully, obviously countries like Tanzania where they flat out deny it will be an issue long term)"

This is exactly what i am getting at. Locking down a country is one challenge , but this needs a global lockdown. The virus is endemic now. Moving forward we need to address how we face new varients. Continuing social distancing and masks for another year is one thing but another 2 or more ?

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

Do those of you saying we must do whatever it takes, do you have a limit to what you'll do or are you all in regardless?

For example, what if this new normal is no more social life, no more holidays, no more meeting friends and family, millions of jobs gone. Forever!!

I'm not saying that's what's going to happen btw but just supposing it did, would that be seen as a reasonable new normal and what needs to be done?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes, because social distancing will keep those i live alive..

...dying for a shag, though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop."

But that's what coronaviruses do, they mutate and adapt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together.

I'm trying. As you know.

If we can stop mixing globally for awhile, drive down local rates etc... We can get this sorted. (Hopefully, obviously countries like Tanzania where they flat out deny it will be an issue long term)

Why stop at 2. Go for 5 or more..

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together.

I'm trying. As you know.

If we can stop mixing globally for awhile, drive down local rates etc... We can get this sorted. (Hopefully, obviously countries like Tanzania where they flat out deny it will be an issue long term)

Why stop at 2. Go for 5 or more.. "

Professor John Edmunds from SAGE has said masks could be worm forever. This is from a scientist, not me.

I don't agree with lockdowns lasting much longer personally .

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together.

I'm trying. As you know.

If we can stop mixing globally for awhile, drive down local rates etc... We can get this sorted. (Hopefully, obviously countries like Tanzania where they flat out deny it will be an issue long term)

Did you ignore all the other stuff about studying variants and finding treatment/ vaccines that aren't evaded?

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together.

I'm trying. As you know.

If we can stop mixing globally for awhile, drive down local rates etc... We can get this sorted. (Hopefully, obviously countries like Tanzania where they flat out deny it will be an issue long term)

Did you ignore all the other stuff about studying variants and finding treatment/ vaccines that aren't evaded?"

Ignore what exactly ? As soon as a variety is found that is resistant to all current vaccines ,... by studying them ... we are back to square one. No saying this will happen.. not saying it wont , but SAGE are pushing for a very cautious approach for this very reason.

This is pertinent to the OPs point . Another year of restrictions?

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together.

I'm trying. As you know.

If we can stop mixing globally for awhile, drive down local rates etc... We can get this sorted. (Hopefully, obviously countries like Tanzania where they flat out deny it will be an issue long term)

Did you ignore all the other stuff about studying variants and finding treatment/ vaccines that aren't evaded?"

This is pertinent to the OPs point . Another year of restrictions?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together.

I'm trying. As you know.

If we can stop mixing globally for awhile, drive down local rates etc... We can get this sorted. (Hopefully, obviously countries like Tanzania where they flat out deny it will be an issue long term)

Did you ignore all the other stuff about studying variants and finding treatment/ vaccines that aren't evaded?

This is pertinent to the OPs point . Another year of restrictions? "

*Shrug*. I choose to believe in the science and hang on/ protect people as best as I can.

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

"Aye there's the rub.

It's on us to stop spreading it... Reduce the spread... Reduce the opportunities for the virus to infect a host and mutate.... We can do this if we do it together.

I'm trying. As you know.

If we can stop mixing globally for awhile, drive down local rates etc... We can get this sorted. (Hopefully, obviously countries like Tanzania where they flat out deny it will be an issue long term)

Did you ignore all the other stuff about studying variants and finding treatment/ vaccines that aren't evaded?

This is pertinent to the OPs point . Another year of restrictions?

*Shrug*. I choose to believe in the science and hang on/ protect people as best as I can."

What have i said that is unscientific ?

Go look for the Sage professor. None more scientific than him . Unfortunately even scientists need a crystal ball on occasions.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

What have i said that is unscientific ?

Go look for the Sage professor. None more scientific than him . Unfortunately even scientists need a crystal ball on occasions. "

Didn't say you'd said anything unscientific. I said that I choose to believe in the science. Or, I choose to believe that research will help make this better.

Because the alternative, of giving up, is unthinkable to me. I'm doing my best to protect people.

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By *lansmanMan
over a year ago

Sheffield

What have i said that is unscientific ?

Go look for the Sage professor. None more scientific than him . Unfortunately even scientists need a crystal ball on occasions.

Didn't say you'd said anything unscientific. I said that I choose to believe in the science. Or, I choose to believe that research will help make this better.

Because the alternative, of giving up, is unthinkable to me. I'm doing my best to protect people."

Ok , well its not about giving up.

I have no doubt that the vaccines work with the known strains.

Its about a choice that will have to be made soon and key to that is how we are going to handle the mutations.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Nobody knows what will happen just try to be positive

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

What have i said that is unscientific ?

Go look for the Sage professor. None more scientific than him . Unfortunately even scientists need a crystal ball on occasions.

Didn't say you'd said anything unscientific. I said that I choose to believe in the science. Or, I choose to believe that research will help make this better.

Because the alternative, of giving up, is unthinkable to me. I'm doing my best to protect people.

Ok , well its not about giving up.

I have no doubt that the vaccines work with the known strains.

Its about a choice that will have to be made soon and key to that is how we are going to handle the mutations. "

I'm taking it day by day.

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By *avrick180Man
over a year ago

Pontypool

Cant do one more year not seen my grandson or daughter since last feb and parents since last December

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Cant do one more year not seen my grandson or daughter since last feb and parents since last December "
You will see them before summer do not be taken in by the negative people here

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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago

harrow

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants."

A year? And the rest !

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop.

But that's what coronaviruses do, they mutate and adapt. "

They do. But they do it a lot less if the community infection rates are lower. And surprisingly enough they do it more if infection rates are higher.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop.

But that's what coronaviruses do, they mutate and adapt.

They do. But they do it a lot less if the community infection rates are lower. And surprisingly enough they do it more if infection rates are higher. "

Indeed. The less they spread the less they mutate.

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By *he shaggersCouple
over a year ago

vancouver island

"No way they are saying September they can fuck off "

And then start spreading it all again

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By *he shaggersCouple
over a year ago

vancouver island

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants.

Easy to say when you are in you 30s 40s 50s. No I cant cope with it. Ive been on my own nearly the whole year another no I cant . I have precious few years left"

Cheer up you have more than the dead ones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No way they are saying September they can fuck off

And then start spreading it all again"
when are people going to wake up and face facts, you can't stop a virus only slow it. So stay in lockdown till everyone catches the virus will could take 3 year's if no mixing, no expert as ever said we can't end the virus only slow it down.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants.

In reality we will have another year of living with the virus, that’s guaranteed. As with any of these subjects it’s not as black and white as simply deaths or as in this case a timeframe.

We know from last year we had a fairly open and relaxed summer, this year will have some limitations and other implications on it but we’ll also have positive changes too.

This is the world we live in now, perhaps just embrace it whatever it ends up looking like and make the best of it.

Guaranteed by whom? "

Science Puddles... the virus is and will continue to be here, it’s about us adapting to live with it and reduce its significance and impact on our lives.

Same as it was with HIV... you know covid-19 won’t sign a peace treaty, right?

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By *rimKardashianMan
over a year ago

Yorkshire

" main stream media

Thank you kindly!

Seems rather obvious in retrospect.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The virus is here to stay and will eventually be like a cold. We have to live with it and also accept that people die - despite what everyone likes to think, we are not destined to live forever. The numbers of people who will die because of the emphasis on Covid will be enormous. Young people will lose their lives because of late cancer diagnoses, lack of diabetes care etc. Covid patients are not more important than others!!!

Before anyone bites my head off, I have worked in clinical research for nearly 30 years and currently work on Covid treatments.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

" main stream media

Thank you kindly!

Seems rather obvious in retrospect."

I only found out what it meant last week.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There's going to come a point in which lockdiwn restrictions will cost more lives than they're saving.

There are other serious illnesses in the world which are going undetected and without proper treatment, that's before we mention mental illness and poverty.

It can't go on for much longer like this. It is simply not a sustainable way of life physically, mentally or economically.

I'm all for following restrictions as long as they actually continue to serve the greater good of (all) public health...everyone has their limits though...

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By *ussyeater79Man
over a year ago

sunderland

"Vaccinations are working "

Are they?

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants.

Easy to say when you are in you 30s 40s 50s. No I cant cope with it. Ive been on my own nearly the whole year another no I cant . I have precious few years left

I can't do another year, defo not in the city.

The Government narrative is to drip feed information. The evidence for that is to look at what they have done. They have effectively ceased to educate children. The business organizations that provide work are closing down. People are at school leaving age with no prospect of work or further education. What plans have the government made for them? They must made preparations. Eighteen months from now the Government will be making plans for a general election. Probably in May 2023. They will not risk going anywhere near the full term of five years. Unless something happens detrimental to the chances of the government winning an election when they may be forced to.

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

Not in my world, no defender of Bozo & his fellow clowns, but drip feed maybe because of a constantly shifting unknown narrative. Not ideal & many mistakes have been made. Most schools have children in, again not capacity & not learning new things in the way they might, but since the mental aspect of school & mixing with peers is a factor, then again given circumstances, not great but?...organisations closing down? Then why are roads busier & people being made to feel they must go to work, yes there have been & will be casualties & jobs lost, lives put on hold as before though the options are? Agree about election time, after all a parties job is to get re elected, but your points are not the best way to go about it surely? education & training for young school/university leavers is in tatters, some because this very government has dismantled further education colleges in favour of university education..

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up "

You are following the government narrative to 'T'. They want you to blame yourself for the virus. They want you to overlook the fact that they flout their own guidelines and regulations. Like driving to County Durham and Barnard Castle. Where is Cummings now? Tomorrow Hancock could invent another 'offence' that could result in a ten-year prison sentence.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up

So you think viruses aren't spread by people interacting?

(This is not an endorsement on my part of the government)

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up

Sure. The reason there are still 15k infections a day is because a govt adviser who quit months ago is going round infecting 14999 people a day. It's nobody else's responsibility at all. Yep that'll be the reason sure enough

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up

I think it might have helped people think well FFS why is it one rule for him and one for the rest of us which in turn might have got people to do the same or not bother as much to stick to the rules

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up

I think it might have helped people think well FFS why is it one rule for him and one for the rest of us which in turn might have got people to do the same or not bother as much to stick to the rules"

Agreed

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up

Come on. I get the politics I really do. But it was a year ago. You / we can't on the one hand say fuck it I'm going to break the rules that are there to protect us and then at the same time moan about the consequences. If thta is genuinely peoples motivations for breaking the rules then we need to grow up a bit. This kills people in many different ways.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Whilst it's no excuse it certainly means they have no legitimacy in blaming others, when one of their own broke the rules,they not only bent over to protect him,they even gave him his own press conference to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This will all change totally once the mortality rate drops. The vaccine is available, normal life will be resumed and your health decisions will be your own responsibility. Once theatres and cinemas re-open, as they will, it will be your own decision whether or not to sit in a seat for two hours or whatever right next to a person you know nothing about !!! This may shock a lot of the bed wetters but it will be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules."

Which apparently is all someone else's fault. I mean when my kids were 6 they didn't even try blaming someone else for when they messed up... But apparently it's expected, and acceptable for grown adults to do it. Who'd have thought why we've made such a massive collective fuck up of this.. Its all someone else's vault. Beautiful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules."
. The “rules” will soon be replaced with “advice” and then it becomes your own decision, your own responsibility. Hide behind the sofa forever. Who cares ???

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules.

I've noticed this more and more. Not just where covid is concerned either.

I was listening to a guy in he sixties saying that he couldn't do certain things because his parents didn't give him the necessary skills.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules.

I've noticed this more and more. Not just where covid is concerned either.

I was listening to a guy in he sixties saying that he couldn't do certain things because his parents didn't give him the necessary skills.

The gyms didn't help.

As you didn't have to wear a face mask or keep your distance.

Odd for a place that has so much airborne exposure.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules.

I've noticed this more and more. Not just where covid is concerned either.

I was listening to a guy in he sixties saying that he couldn't do certain things because his parents didn't give him the necessary skills.

Sounds like my ex!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules.

I've noticed this more and more. Not just where covid is concerned either.

I was listening to a guy in he sixties saying that he couldn't do certain things because his parents didn't give him the necessary skills.

The gyms didn't help.

As you didn't have to wear a face mask or keep your distance.

Odd for a place that has so much airborne exposure."

The infection rates in gyms were tiny.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules.

I've noticed this more and more. Not just where covid is concerned either.

I was listening to a guy in he sixties saying that he couldn't do certain things because his parents didn't give him the necessary skills.

I can see how this might have been a problem before the internet. Genuinely. You're out on your own, you need to do X, you were never taught, you don't know how. Now what? (Maybe I'm being naive/ showing my age)

These days, anything I don't know how to do, I Google it to see if I can figure out how to do it myself.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules.

I've noticed this more and more. Not just where covid is concerned either.

I was listening to a guy in he sixties saying that he couldn't do certain things because his parents didn't give him the necessary skills.

The gyms didn't help.

As you didn't have to wear a face mask or keep your distance.

Odd for a place that has so much airborne exposure."

I wore a mask in the gym

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This will all change totally once the mortality rate drops. The vaccine is available, normal life will be resumed and your health decisions will be your own responsibility. Once theatres and cinemas re-open, as they will, it will be your own decision whether or not to sit in a seat for two hours or whatever right next to a person you know nothing about !!! This may shock a lot of the bed wetters but it will be. "

I'm looking forward to this. I'm hoping the virus will just make people very ill rather than killing or maiming them.

People can then make their own decisions about staying home or risking such events as theatres or cinemas.

I'm one of the bed wetters. I've stayed home as much as possible apart from a couple of 'risky events' that were allowed in between lockdowns. I isolated after each risky event but still worried.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd sooner do the distancing from others,than wear the face covering

I just can get used to or comfortable in the face coverings

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure about distancing but I sure will be wearing a snood over my nose next winter. I never knew how warm they are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not sure about distancing but I sure will be wearing a snood over my nose next winter. I never knew how warm they are."

Yes, I love my masks so much for cold dog walks, ive bought snoods with built in masks too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules.

I've noticed this more and more. Not just where covid is concerned either.

I was listening to a guy in he sixties saying that he couldn't do certain things because his parents didn't give him the necessary skills.

The gyms didn't help.

As you didn't have to wear a face mask or keep your distance.

Odd for a place that has so much airborne exposure.

I wore a mask in the gym"

Lot don't though leading to exposure. Wiping machinery down don't do it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It will go on and on.

As way too many breaking the rules.

I've noticed this more and more. Not just where covid is concerned either.

I was listening to a guy in he sixties saying that he couldn't do certain things because his parents didn't give him the necessary skills.

The gyms didn't help.

As you didn't have to wear a face mask or keep your distance.

Odd for a place that has so much airborne exposure.

I wore a mask in the gym

Lot don't though leading to exposure. Wiping machinery down don't do it."

I know. Only person I can control is myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop.

But that's what coronaviruses do, they mutate and adapt.

They do. But they do it a lot less if the community infection rates are lower. And surprisingly enough they do it more if infection rates are higher. "

So why can't the scientists work that out

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop.

But that's what coronaviruses do, they mutate and adapt.

They do. But they do it a lot less if the community infection rates are lower. And surprisingly enough they do it more if infection rates are higher.

So why can't the scientists work that out "

... Err... the scientists know this and always have?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants.

In reality we will have another year of living with the virus, that’s guaranteed. As with any of these subjects it’s not as black and white as simply deaths or as in this case a timeframe.

We know from last year we had a fairly open and relaxed summer, this year will have some limitations and other implications on it but we’ll also have positive changes too.

This is the world we live in now, perhaps just embrace it whatever it ends up looking like and make the best of it.

Guaranteed by whom?

Science Puddles... the virus is and will continue to be here, it’s about us adapting to live with it and reduce its significance and impact on our lives.

Same as it was with HIV... you know covid-19 won’t sign a peace treaty, right?"

We've got hundreds and hundreds of viruses and live with those

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not in my world, no defender of Bozo & his fellow clowns, but drip feed maybe because of a constantly shifting unknown narrative. Not ideal & many mistakes have been made. Most schools have children in, again not capacity & not learning new things in the way they might, but since the mental aspect of school & mixing with peers is a factor, then again given circumstances, not great but?...organisations closing down? Then why are roads busier & people being made to feel they must go to work, yes there have been & will be casualties & jobs lost, lives put on hold as before though the options are? Agree about election time, after all a parties job is to get re elected, but your points are not the best way to go about it surely? education & training for young school/university leavers is in tatters, some because this very government has dismantled further education colleges in favour of university education.."

It's fine knocking the government but who else is capable of doing it? Captain Hindsight and the remains of the Labour Party?

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By *asIsaCouple
over a year ago

harrow

"The virus is here to stay and will eventually be like a cold. We have to live with it and also accept that people die - despite what everyone likes to think, we are not destined to live forever. The numbers of people who will die because of the emphasis on Covid will be enormous. Young people will lose their lives because of late cancer diagnoses, lack of diabetes care etc. Covid patients are not more important than others!!!

Before anyone bites my head off, I have worked in clinical research for nearly 30 years and currently work on Covid treatments."

The virus will 'become like a cold'. Says who?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop.

But that's what coronaviruses do, they mutate and adapt.

They do. But they do it a lot less if the community infection rates are lower. And surprisingly enough they do it more if infection rates are higher.

So why can't the scientists work that out

... Err... the scientists know this and always have?"

So why do they keep saying this variant and that variant. They apparently knew it would happen so why the furore when it does?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Before anyone bites my head off, I have worked in clinical research for nearly 30 years and currently work on Covid treatments.

The virus will 'become like a cold'. Says who?!"

Quick research

Coronaviruses are a large family of viruses with some causing less-severe disease, such as the common cold

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop.

But that's what coronaviruses do, they mutate and adapt.

They do. But they do it a lot less if the community infection rates are lower. And surprisingly enough they do it more if infection rates are higher.

So why can't the scientists work that out

... Err... the scientists know this and always have?

So why do they keep saying this variant and that variant. They apparently knew it would happen so why the furore when it does? "

They know it's possible. They don't know what the variant will do or when it'll emerge or what it'll mean.

And scientific knowledge isn't the same as political reaction.

I would have thought this was self evident.

Next Strain dot org is an interesting site tracking these things if you're interested

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

It's fine knocking the government but who else is capable of doing it? Captain Hindsight and the remains of the Labour Party? "

Why is he captain hindsight?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop.

But that's what coronaviruses do, they mutate and adapt.

They do. But they do it a lot less if the community infection rates are lower. And surprisingly enough they do it more if infection rates are higher.

So why can't the scientists work that out

... Err... the scientists know this and always have?

So why do they keep saying this variant and that variant. They apparently knew it would happen so why the furore when it does?

They know it's possible. They don't know what the variant will do or when it'll emerge or what it'll mean.

And scientific knowledge isn't the same as political reaction.

I would have thought this was self evident.

Next Strain dot org is an interesting site tracking these things if you're interested"

I accept that they don't know what the variant will be or when it will emerge but they appeared astounded when one then another then another emerged.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Why is he captain hindsight?"

Because no one in the history of ever has ever seen viruses before. Infectious disease strategy hasn't been in place for centuries. We're all flying in the dark, making it up as we go along.

Apparently this also applies to repeating mistakes and failing to observe successes from elsewhere in the last year.

Hooray for our Churchillian crayon eater.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I accept that they don't know what the variant will be or when it will emerge but they appeared astounded when one then another then another emerged. "

The only astonishment I've seen has been from politicians tbh

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

The vaccine is supposed to do this .

We hope it will. Variants threaten this. The situation develops. We wait.

Therein lies the problem. Variants happen and will continue to happen. Waiting for the next varient becomes the new normal with distancing and masks becoming permanent.

If you say so.

Its the position we are in right now ... thats a fact . Kent variety , south Africa variety anybody ?

Kent, Bristol, Brazil 1 and 2, South Africa, possibly others.

We mitigate, we research what mutations are possible, we contain, we adapt vaccination.

If we keep our germs to ourselves variants have less opportunity to develop.

But that's what coronaviruses do, they mutate and adapt.

They do. But they do it a lot less if the community infection rates are lower. And surprisingly enough they do it more if infection rates are higher.

So why can't the scientists work that out "

Why can't scientists work what out? Some scientists have been saying high infection rates are dangerous since the start. As have some leaders. The fact the public have chosen in some cases to ignore lockdown... Well you'll have to ask them why.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's fine knocking the government but who else is capable of doing it? Captain Hindsight and the remains of the Labour Party?

Why is he captain hindsight?"

Because the only thing he says is in hindsight. He wouldn't know a strategy if It yas painted in bright yellow with a big flashing sign saying STATERGY

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

"Could you cope with another year socially distancing?

That is what is potentially on the cards to fully protect the UK from other variants."

That would be pants although i think it is looking more likely with every week that passes.

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By *oxy lady40Woman
over a year ago

bridgwater

Hope not as missing my family , but if we have to then yes I will cope

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's fine knocking the government but who else is capable of doing it? Captain Hindsight and the remains of the Labour Party?

Why is he captain hindsight?

Because the only thing he says is in hindsight. He wouldn't know a strategy if It yas painted in bright yellow with a big flashing sign saying STATERGY "

Whereas boris just follows little jimmy

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up

I think it might have helped people think well FFS why is it one rule for him and one for the rest of us which in turn might have got people to do the same or not bother as much to stick to the rules

I don't think politics has anything to do with it

I also don't think it needs a grow up accusation either, people were / are peeved at being told to do one thing while the people making rules do another. I think it was when things changed for some people.

I am not saying whether it is right or wrong for people to think that way, just how it can and did happen for some people. People have long memories

For me I would and did think well you are an idiot and you will probably spoil what we have already achieved but I and probably lots of others carried on doing what we should be doing anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The reason in this mess now is people couldn't stick to social distance etc for the last year yet alone do it for another if stuck to it in first place wouldn't have to look at doing another one

chin up

I think it might have helped people think well FFS why is it one rule for him and one for the rest of us which in turn might have got people to do the same or not bother as much to stick to the rules

I don't think politics has anything to do with it

I am not saying whether it is right or wrong for people to think that way, just how it can and did happen for some people. People have long memories

For me I would and did think well you are an idiot and you will probably spoil what we have already achieved but I and probably lots of others carried on doing what we should be doing anyway"

Spot on

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