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By *iercedyvonne OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow

So, a very small number of Scottish school children - at early ages going back on 22nd.

Ridiculous - should be all pupils.

We're at less cases than when schools were shut before Christmas and there have been other restrictions since then.

Shutting schools made zero difference then.

Add to that the huge numbers of vulnerable now not vulnerable and we will never get back to where we were over Christmas, I'd wager that if we ended all lockdown right now then we'd be fine.

This isn't just about schools, opening schools helps the economy massively.

Sturgeon just capitulating to the largely SNP voting teacher community.

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By *uboCouple
over a year ago

East kilbride

Bollox.

If it was all pupils, then by that instance, it would include Unis. Look what happened last time.

We are not through this by a long way, especially with the other more viral strains.

Ease restrictions too soon and we are back at the start.

We have been there and done that

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Gradually going back to normal so it can be monitored?

Makes sense to me

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Or maybe the variants might be greater threat and we can't take the chance.

Maybe the (I saw this yesterday) 0.73% of the UK population with full vaccination is insufficient to defend from anything?

Maybe learning from the disaster of opening up too soon?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Maybe Sturgeon is thinking about the growing number of children with suspected or actual long Covid.

It's good that someone thinks of the children

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By *ljamMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

I'd wager that if we ended all lockdown right now then we'd be fine.

It was at this moment the absence of any sense became painfully obvious...

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

I'd wager that if we ended all lockdown right now then we'd be fine.

It was at this moment the absence of any sense became painfully obvious..."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I disagree I think it's to soon and with the new strains

It took a year but I think online learning is going well I know many people want rid of there kids id rather wait till more people are vaccinated

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I think it's too soon to bit if they're going to do it it should be very gradual. I'd of thought the exam years would of gone back first tbh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cases rose exponentially a few weeks after schools opened in September. Only started to fall a few weeks after they closed...despite this current lockdown being anything but and many people not complying anyway.

Kids always have been and still are super spreaders of just about any disease.

Harsh but true.

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By *exycouplesswingCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells

As long as she doesn’t something slightly differently to Boris, and slight before, she will try spin it as ‘for the good of scotland, so let be independent’

It’s all really rather pathetic

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By *sm265Woman
over a year ago

Shangri-la

All early education settings plus P1-3 pupils is by no means a very small number of pupils.

Personally I think it is too soon to be sending any back, but at least they have learned something from last time & realised that it needs to be a much more gradual process of opening up schools this time.

I'd have preferred they keep schools closed until Easter though and to try to get the number of infections much lower (and the number of people vaccinated much higher).

Whatever she does someone will complain.

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By *ess n BenCouple
over a year ago

Didcot

I'd wager that if we ended all lockdown right now then we'd be fine.

It was at this moment the absence of any sense became painfully obvious..."

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland

"I disagree I think it's to soon and with the new strains

It took a year but I think online learning is going well I know many people want rid of there kids id rather wait till more people are vaccinated "

Is it really going well? Many children simply aren't engaging with the online learning - they don't have the support from their parents. You know they type of parent who, when at school, couldn't be bothered themselves. Other parents are struggling to help their kids with their work whilst trying to get on with their own work.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"So, a very small number of Scottish school children - at early ages going back on 22nd.

Ridiculous - should be all pupils.

We're at less cases than when schools were shut before Christmas and there have been other restrictions since then.

Shutting schools made zero difference then.

Add to that the huge numbers of vulnerable now not vulnerable and we will never get back to where we were over Christmas, I'd wager that if we ended all lockdown right now then we'd be fine.

This isn't just about schools, opening schools helps the economy massively.

Sturgeon just capitulating to the largely SNP voting teacher community."
Have a feeling that if she does not improve vaccine roll out her popularity will fade

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

"Sturgeon just capitulating to the largely SNP voting teacher community."

Any data to back this up ?

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By *ike73300Man
over a year ago

Liverpool

Would working through the summer holidays make any difference, or have I not given it enough thought?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sturgeon has used the epidemic to do things different in principle to drive her nationalist agenda.

Never trust nationalism, rarely ends well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would working through the summer holidays make any difference, or have I not given it enough thought?"

i doubt the teachers (or kids) will want to work through the summer

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

"Would working through the summer holidays make any difference, or have I not given it enough thought?

i doubt the teachers (or kids) will want to work through the summer "

I'm absolutely cream crackered. It's been so tiring remote teaching. I need a break. We also don't get paid for the summer holiday so that would have to be resolved too.

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By *xploring_FunWoman
over a year ago

Coventry

"I think it's too soon to bit if they're going to do it it should be very gradual. I'd of thought the exam years would of gone back first tbh. "

Younger kids going back to school means parents can go back to work.

Also apparently in general more high school kids go on buses to school so I assume that’s a big area of close contact

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'd wager that if we ended all lockdown right now then we'd be fine.

It was at this moment the absence of any sense became painfully obvious..."

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By *ighland gentlemanMan
over a year ago

Ardgay

As with so many decisions in this pandemic, it's a case of choosing which is likely to cause least harm.

There are no easy solutions and folk will always say how much better it would be if an alternative path was taken. Especially with the benefit of hindsight.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd wager that if we ended all lockdown right now then we'd be fine.

It was at this moment the absence of any sense became painfully obvious..."

That is possibly the most succinct reply I’ve ever read.

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By *iercedyvonne OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Cases rose exponentially a few weeks after schools opened in September. Only started to fall a few weeks after they closed...despite this current lockdown being anything but and many people not complying anyway.

Kids always have been and still are super spreaders of just about any disease.

Harsh but true."

I can't speak for England but in Scotland both reopening the schools and closing them again made no discernible difference.

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By *ylonSlutTV/TS
over a year ago

Durham

Kids always have been and still are super spreaders of just about any disease.

Harsh but true.

I can't speak for England but in Scotland both reopening the schools and closing them again made no discernible difference."

Scotland rise was slower than the rest of the uk but the rise in cases definitely started when schools and universities went back.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Kids always have been and still are super spreaders of just about any disease.

Harsh but true.

I can't speak for England but in Scotland both reopening the schools and closing them again made no discernible difference."

Could you link to any data supporting your assertion?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Kids always have been and still are super spreaders of just about any disease.

Harsh but true.

I can't speak for England but in Scotland both reopening the schools and closing them again made no discernible difference."

I'm fairly sure the figures shot up when schools reopened?

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