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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date " Yes but it is still good news! | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news!" It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news!" Very good news indeed. I think the days of snow had a slight impact but as you say motoring along now. The target is for first jab but if you look at the second jab figures they are also climbing. Not at the same pace but close to half a million now | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! Very good news indeed. I think the days of snow had a slight impact but as you say motoring along now. The target is for first jab but if you look at the second jab figures they are also climbing. Not at the same pace but close to half a million now" They really are. We are definitely looking at targets being met which can only be a good thing. | |||
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Good news "Got to find the positives in this situation. | |||
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"It's like a meeting of the glass half full fraternity in here...
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Got to find the positives in this situation. "100% | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day " Plese stop this negativety | |||
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"As of today we are on a point 3 million vaccine doses. Not bad going, last Sunday we were on 5.9 so we seem to motoring now. Good news And looks like if we carry on doing nearly 2 and a 1/2 million a week we will hit the target of doing the top 4 groups by mid February. "What exactly does having the vaccine change with regard to restrictions ? the gov.uk website states you must carry on wearing face coverings, social distancing, sanitising etc etc even after two jabs | |||
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"As of today we are on a point 3 million vaccine doses. Not bad going, last Sunday we were on 5.9 so we seem to motoring now. Good news And looks like if we carry on doing nearly 2 and a 1/2 million a week we will hit the target of doing the top 4 groups by mid February.
What exactly does having the vaccine change with regard to restrictions ? the gov.uk website states you must carry on wearing face coverings, social distancing, sanitising etc etc even after two jabs "it changes nothing for the restrictions currently. However it should prevent those that catch the virus from getting such serious side effects. | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety" I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker | |||
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"As of today we are on a point 3 million vaccine doses. Not bad going, last Sunday we were on 5.9 so we seem to motoring now. Good news And looks like if we carry on doing nearly 2 and a 1/2 million a week we will hit the target of doing the top 4 groups by mid February.
What exactly does having the vaccine change with regard to restrictions ? the gov.uk website states you must carry on wearing face coverings, social distancing, sanitising etc etc even after two jabs "It doesn't stop any if the above in foreseeable however hopefully it will stop people so many dying! | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker " It is not half a dose people are not being given half doses so that isn't true. The 1st jab should provide some protection the 2nd jab should provide more protection it is not the same as half a dose that is misinformation. | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker " last week on one session alone we had 8 people say " do we have to stick to our 3and vaccination appointment as we have a holiday booked." We are trying to make it clear about the 2nd vaccine and we had more missed appointments for 2nd vaccines than the first | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker last week on one session alone we had 8 people say " do we have to stick to our 3and vaccination appointment as we have a holiday booked." We are trying to make it clear about the 2nd vaccine and we had more missed appointments for 2nd vaccines than the first " I am surprised you had people telling you they are going on holiday because everything is shut and we are in lockdown. | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker It is not half a dose people are not being given half doses so that isn't true. The 1st jab should provide some protection the 2nd jab should provide more protection it is not the same as half a dose that is misinformation." Half, half a kick start of your body starting to build what it needs. However you wish to word it, you need both | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker last week on one session alone we had 8 people say " do we have to stick to our 3and vaccination appointment as we have a holiday booked." We are trying to make it clear about the 2nd vaccine and we had more missed appointments for 2nd vaccines than the first I am surprised you had people telling you they are going on holiday because everything is shut and we are in lockdown." they are hoping by march we wont be.xx | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker It is not half a dose people are not being given half doses so that isn't true. The 1st jab should provide some protection the 2nd jab should provide more protection it is not the same as half a dose that is misinformation. Half, half a kick start of your body starting to build what it needs. However you wish to word it, you need both " It's not working at how I wish they are not half doses. Yes people should have both vaccinations but you just seem so negative about it. All I know is the people that have had it are really pleased because they don't have to be as terrified anymore that they are going to die from something if they leave the house. Yes it is not a cure however this is good news and people should not be made to feel bad for being pleased that the vaccination program is going well. | |||
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"I will only have the injection if its given to me by a Vet ." Go to a vaccine hub and you might well get your wish. A vet would qualify to train as a vaccinator and so could well be volunteering. | |||
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"I will only have the injection if its given to me by a Vet . Go to a vaccine hub and you might well get your wish. A vet would qualify to train as a vaccinator and so could well be volunteering. " Yes as far as I know it could be anybody that has had the training. I saw a while ago they were asking tattoo artists and needle trained beauticians to sign up. | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker last week on one session alone we had 8 people say " do we have to stick to our 3and vaccination appointment as we have a holiday booked." We are trying to make it clear about the 2nd vaccine and we had more missed appointments for 2nd vaccines than the first " Urgh, this is incredibly dangerous from the microbiological standpoint  | |||
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"I will only have the injection if its given to me by a Vet . Go to a vaccine hub and you might well get your wish. A vet would qualify to train as a vaccinator and so could well be volunteering. " There are all sorts of people being trained to give the vaccine xx | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker last week on one session alone we had 8 people say " do we have to stick to our 3and vaccination appointment as we have a holiday booked." We are trying to make it clear about the 2nd vaccine and we had more missed appointments for 2nd vaccines than the first Urgh, this is incredibly dangerous from the microbiological standpoint "I genuinely believe most people know they have to stick to the ristic restrictions and have the 2nd dose. I just think its really positive but People like to pour cold water on it. | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker It is not half a dose people are not being given half doses so that isn't true. The 1st jab should provide some protection the 2nd jab should provide more protection it is not the same as half a dose that is misinformation. Half, half a kick start of your body starting to build what it needs. However you wish to word it, you need both It's not working at how I wish they are not half doses. Yes people should have both vaccinations but you just seem so negative about it. All I know is the people that have had it are really pleased because they don't have to be as terrified anymore that they are going to die from something if they leave the house. Yes it is not a cure however this is good news and people should not be made to feel bad for being pleased that the vaccination program is going well. "I’m not being negative I’m being realistic, and others are reading it negatively and adding words / meaning that isn’t even there. Even from Pfizer themselves, the first jab is only just over 50% effective that it will do what it needs to do. The second jab gives your body a better chance of doing what it needs to do and then hopefully if you catch covid it kicks in but until you do you just don’t know | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker It is not half a dose people are not being given half doses so that isn't true. The 1st jab should provide some protection the 2nd jab should provide more protection it is not the same as half a dose that is misinformation. Half, half a kick start of your body starting to build what it needs. However you wish to word it, you need both It's not working at how I wish they are not half doses. Yes people should have both vaccinations but you just seem so negative about it. All I know is the people that have had it are really pleased because they don't have to be as terrified anymore that they are going to die from something if they leave the house. Yes it is not a cure however this is good news and people should not be made to feel bad for being pleased that the vaccination program is going well.
I’m not being negative I’m being realistic, and others are reading it negatively and adding words / meaning that isn’t even there. Even from Pfizer themselves, the first jab is only just over 50% effective that it will do what it needs to do. The second jab gives your body a better chance of doing what it needs to do and then hopefully if you catch covid it kicks in but until you do you just don’t know
"And nobody is denying this people are just pleased the program is going well. I am aware that you need to vaccines at no point have I said that people shouldn't have it all should break the rules I'm just pleased it's going in the right direction and I think everybody should be, this is a positive thing. | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker last week on one session alone we had 8 people say " do we have to stick to our 3and vaccination appointment as we have a holiday booked." We are trying to make it clear about the 2nd vaccine and we had more missed appointments for 2nd vaccines than the first Urgh, this is incredibly dangerous from the microbiological standpoint "it is. Luckily the first vaccine is the most important. The AstraZeneca one states the 2nd dose should be given between 4 and 12 weeks after the first. Hopefully all the missed appointments are just because people have actually managed to get it somewhere closer to home... We had people from all over coming to the hub | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker It is not half a dose people are not being given half doses so that isn't true. The 1st jab should provide some protection the 2nd jab should provide more protection it is not the same as half a dose that is misinformation. Half, half a kick start of your body starting to build what it needs. However you wish to word it, you need both It's not working at how I wish they are not half doses. Yes people should have both vaccinations but you just seem so negative about it. All I know is the people that have had it are really pleased because they don't have to be as terrified anymore that they are going to die from something if they leave the house. Yes it is not a cure however this is good news and people should not be made to feel bad for being pleased that the vaccination program is going well.
I’m not being negative I’m being realistic, and others are reading it negatively and adding words / meaning that isn’t even there. Even from Pfizer themselves, the first jab is only just over 50% effective that it will do what it needs to do. The second jab gives your body a better chance of doing what it needs to do and then hopefully if you catch covid it kicks in but until you do you just don’t know
And nobody is denying this people are just pleased the program is going well.
I am aware that you need to vaccines at no point have I said that people shouldn't have it all should break the rules I'm just pleased it's going in the right direction and I think everybody should be, this is a positive thing."and I haven’t disagreed with that ! | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker last week on one session alone we had 8 people say " do we have to stick to our 3and vaccination appointment as we have a holiday booked." We are trying to make it clear about the 2nd vaccine and we had more missed appointments for 2nd vaccines than the first Urgh, this is incredibly dangerous from the microbiological standpoint it is. Luckily the first vaccine is the most important. The AstraZeneca one states the 2nd dose should be given between 4 and 12 weeks after the first.
Hopefully all the missed appointments are just because people have actually managed to get it somewhere closer to home...
We had people from all over coming to the hub"That is very possible because at a lot of the bigger centres you can just book it online. | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker It is not half a dose people are not being given half doses so that isn't true. The 1st jab should provide some protection the 2nd jab should provide more protection it is not the same as half a dose that is misinformation. Half, half a kick start of your body starting to build what it needs. However you wish to word it, you need both It's not working at how I wish they are not half doses. Yes people should have both vaccinations but you just seem so negative about it. All I know is the people that have had it are really pleased because they don't have to be as terrified anymore that they are going to die from something if they leave the house. Yes it is not a cure however this is good news and people should not be made to feel bad for being pleased that the vaccination program is going well.
I’m not being negative I’m being realistic, and others are reading it negatively and adding words / meaning that isn’t even there. Even from Pfizer themselves, the first jab is only just over 50% effective that it will do what it needs to do. The second jab gives your body a better chance of doing what it needs to do and then hopefully if you catch covid it kicks in but until you do you just don’t know
And nobody is denying this people are just pleased the program is going well.
I am aware that you need to vaccines at no point have I said that people shouldn't have it all should break the rules I'm just pleased it's going in the right direction and I think everybody should be, this is a positive thing."Absolutely it’s a positive thing, one dose is reported to prevent serious medical issues even if you get COVID so come on folks let’s be thankful for these vaccines. We would have something yo moan about if there wasn’t any vaccine available, the we would be in a mess | |||
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"As of today we are on a point 3 million vaccine doses. Not bad going, last Sunday we were on 5.9 so we seem to motoring now. Good news And looks like if we carry on doing nearly 2 and a 1/2 million a week we will hit the target of doing the top 4 groups by mid February.
What exactly does having the vaccine change with regard to restrictions ? the gov.uk website states you must carry on wearing face coverings, social distancing, sanitising etc etc even after two jabs "Only till the right amount have had the vaccine | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker It is not half a dose people are not being given half doses so that isn't true. The 1st jab should provide some protection the 2nd jab should provide more protection it is not the same as half a dose that is misinformation. Half, half a kick start of your body starting to build what it needs. However you wish to word it, you need both It's not working at how I wish they are not half doses. Yes people should have both vaccinations but you just seem so negative about it. All I know is the people that have had it are really pleased because they don't have to be as terrified anymore that they are going to die from something if they leave the house. Yes it is not a cure however this is good news and people should not be made to feel bad for being pleased that the vaccination program is going well.
I’m not being negative I’m being realistic, and others are reading it negatively and adding words / meaning that isn’t even there. Even from Pfizer themselves, the first jab is only just over 50% effective that it will do what it needs to do. The second jab gives your body a better chance of doing what it needs to do and then hopefully if you catch covid it kicks in but until you do you just don’t know
And nobody is denying this people are just pleased the program is going well.
I am aware that you need to vaccines at no point have I said that people shouldn't have it all should break the rules I'm just pleased it's going in the right direction and I think everybody should be, this is a positive thing.
Absolutely it’s a positive thing, one dose is reported to prevent serious medical issues even if you get COVID so come on folks let’s be thankful for these vaccines. We would have something yo moan about if there wasn’t any vaccine available, the we would be in a mess
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"As of today we are on a point 3 million vaccine doses. Not bad going, last Sunday we were on 5.9 so we seem to motoring now. Good news And looks like if we carry on doing nearly 2 and a 1/2 million a week we will hit the target of doing the top 4 groups by mid February.
What exactly does having the vaccine change with regard to restrictions ? the gov.uk website states you must carry on wearing face coverings, social distancing, sanitising etc etc even after two jabs "When someone is vaccinated, they may still be able to catch covid but: 1. They will be less likely to. 2. If they do catch it, they are very likely to recover faster. 3. Because they recover faster, their viral load will be smaller, so they will be less infectious. If the vaccine is only 50% effective in all three of these aspects, it would mean that the R factor for a vaccinated person would drop to half (item 1), and to half of that (item 2), and to half of that (item 3) = total effect of R going to one eighth for a vaccinated person compared with a non vaccinated person. At the moment, even with the majority of people taking lots of precautions, R is hovering around 1 - meaning that the number of new cases per day is not going up particularly, but neither is it going down. This means for a vaccinated person the R could be down in the range 0.1 to 0.2 - but for everyone else it will still be about 1. While the number of non-vaccinated much outweighs the vaccinated, the reduction in R averaged across the population is not great. But as soon as more than half have been jabbed, the average R factor will start to drop quickly. So it's at this halfway point that we should start to see the number of cases falling off quickly. Also, that will be the time when people can start to gather together a bit more (though still taking care) without R going back above 1. At round about the three quarters vaccinated point, we should be able to get a situation where the number currently infectious is dropping right down, and something approaching normal life can be resumed. There will still be cases popping up, but instead of outbreaks growing and growing, they will tend to shrink. We'll still need to avoid big crowds and such for a while - no stadium concerts with 20,000 people only inches apart. But it'll get so that smaller events will be okay - pubs and clubs will open, you'll be able to go to the cinema, fab social parties will resume... But only when 2 jabs, more than half the population, and a month or two for the active case numbers to fall. | |||
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"As of today we are on a point 3 million vaccine doses. Not bad going, last Sunday we were on 5.9 so we seem to motoring now. Good news And looks like if we carry on doing nearly 2 and a 1/2 million a week we will hit the target of doing the top 4 groups by mid February.
What exactly does having the vaccine change with regard to restrictions ? the gov.uk website states you must carry on wearing face coverings, social distancing, sanitising etc etc even after two jabs
When someone is vaccinated, they may still be able to catch covid but:
1. They will be less likely to.
2. If they do catch it, they are very likely to recover faster.
3. Because they recover faster, their viral load will be smaller, so they will be less infectious.
If the vaccine is only 50% effective in all three of these aspects, it would mean that the R factor for a vaccinated person would drop to half (item 1), and to half of that (item 2), and to half of that (item 3) = total effect of R going to one eighth for a vaccinated person compared with a non vaccinated person.
At the moment, even with the majority of people taking lots of precautions, R is hovering around 1 - meaning that the number of new cases per day is not going up particularly, but neither is it going down.
This means for a vaccinated person the R could be down in the range 0.1 to 0.2 - but for everyone else it will still be about 1.
While the number of non-vaccinated much outweighs the vaccinated, the reduction in R averaged across the population is not great. But as soon as more than half have been jabbed, the average R factor will start to drop quickly.
So it's at this halfway point that we should start to see the number of cases falling off quickly. Also, that will be the time when people can start to gather together a bit more (though still taking care) without R going back above 1.
At round about the three quarters vaccinated point, we should be able to get a situation where the number currently infectious is dropping right down, and something approaching normal life can be resumed. There will still be cases popping up, but instead of outbreaks growing and growing, they will tend to shrink. We'll still need to avoid big crowds and such for a while - no stadium concerts with 20,000 people only inches apart. But it'll get so that smaller events will be okay - pubs and clubs will open, you'll be able to go to the cinema, fab social parties will resume...
But only when 2 jabs, more than half the population, and a month or two for the active case numbers to fall."Really informative thank you. X | |||
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"As of today we are on a point 3 million vaccine doses. Not bad going, last Sunday we were on 5.9 so we seem to motoring now. Good news And looks like if we carry on doing nearly 2 and a 1/2 million a week we will hit the target of doing the top 4 groups by mid February.
What exactly does having the vaccine change with regard to restrictions ? the gov.uk website states you must carry on wearing face coverings, social distancing, sanitising etc etc even after two jabs
When someone is vaccinated, they may still be able to catch covid but:
1. They will be less likely to.
2. If they do catch it, they are very likely to recover faster.
3. Because they recover faster, their viral load will be smaller, so they will be less infectious.
If the vaccine is only 50% effective in all three of these aspects, it would mean that the R factor for a vaccinated person would drop to half (item 1), and to half of that (item 2), and to half of that (item 3) = total effect of R going to one eighth for a vaccinated person compared with a non vaccinated person.
At the moment, even with the majority of people taking lots of precautions, R is hovering around 1 - meaning that the number of new cases per day is not going up particularly, but neither is it going down.
This means for a vaccinated person the R could be down in the range 0.1 to 0.2 - but for everyone else it will still be about 1.
While the number of non-vaccinated much outweighs the vaccinated, the reduction in R averaged across the population is not great. But as soon as more than half have been jabbed, the average R factor will start to drop quickly.
So it's at this halfway point that we should start to see the number of cases falling off quickly. Also, that will be the time when people can start to gather together a bit more (though still taking care) without R going back above 1.
At round about the three quarters vaccinated point, we should be able to get a situation where the number currently infectious is dropping right down, and something approaching normal life can be resumed. There will still be cases popping up, but instead of outbreaks growing and growing, they will tend to shrink. We'll still need to avoid big crowds and such for a while - no stadium concerts with 20,000 people only inches apart. But it'll get so that smaller events will be okay - pubs and clubs will open, you'll be able to go to the cinema, fab social parties will resume...
But only when 2 jabs, more than half the population, and a month or two for the active case numbers to fall.
Really informative thank you. X"Very informative indeed. I learnt something today by listening to newscast regarding the rates quoted by vaccine suppliers. I thought when their claim of say 80 percent meant that for 20 percent it did not work at all so they were still in danger. Turns out the percentage quoted is related to not getting bad symptoms. In other words you may not even notice you have it or at worse just be mild symptoms. If you are unlucky enough to be in the 20 percent its almost 100 percent not going to kill you. I hope my understanding is correct but am sure that's how it was explained | |||
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"Been into a "walking dead" centre today with my mother who's 82 Before they give the useless Pfizer vaccine they actually explain it's useless for at least another 15 weeks, assuming you get the next one in 12.. Keeps the sheep happy I suppose "None of those words were spoken in a vaccine clinic. At least you've helped your mother carry out her wish to receive it, unlike my Covidiot mother who ignored the rules, gave her father (my Grandad) Covid and he promptly died. Hopefully your mother has a few more years with her family. My Grandad doesn't have that luxury. Oh, and the day he was taken to hospital, he had an appointment for the jab. I discovered recently that he HAD been offered it sooner, but my mother didn't tell him that a message had been left on his phone. | |||
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" I just think its really positive but People like to pour cold water on it. " You can't decide how people will react to a post and however they do it, if it is within forum rules then it is allowed. Lets respect other peoples views even if they differ from yours | |||
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"My friends mum is house bound and she had her letter about coming for vaccine at centre, her son phoned up and explained she cannot come out for it ..and was told ..oh she will have to wait a few monthes then .... why can't the district nurse do it as she has them round to do her bloods ...." Because the vaccines come in vials of 10-12 doses, once taken out of the fridge must be used on the same day and so taking the "odd" dose out into the community is very difficult. You can't pre-draw up the vaccine then resheath the syringe, for example. They'd have to be able to do 10-12 housebound people one after the other, on the same day, which is obviously logistically challenging. If a housebound person is receiving nurses, paid carers etc, those people should have been vaccinated so they should be at reduced risk. It's important any family carers keep their distance wherever possible, reduce the number of people giving care and always wear masks and practice good hand hygiene in the home of the housebound person. Sadly no kisses, hugs etc. | |||
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"That’s good but it is just first dosage, I think, by that date Yes but it is still good news! It is, I’ll be happier when the second dosage numbers start climbing more than a 1,000 a day Plese stop this negativety I’m entitled to my opinion, half a dose is not enough so yes I will be happier when the second dosage numbers start increasing quicker It is not half a dose people are not being given half doses so that isn't true. The 1st jab should provide some protection the 2nd jab should provide more protection it is not the same as half a dose that is misinformation. Half, half a kick start of your body starting to build what it needs. However you wish to word it, you need both It's not working at how I wish they are not half doses. Yes people should have both vaccinations but you just seem so negative about it. All I know is the people that have had it are really pleased because they don't have to be as terrified anymore that they are going to die from something if they leave the house. Yes it is not a cure however this is good news and people should not be made to feel bad for being pleased that the vaccination program is going well.
I’m not being negative I’m being realistic, and others are reading it negatively and adding words / meaning that isn’t even there. Even from Pfizer themselves, the first jab is only just over 50% effective that it will do what it needs to do. The second jab gives your body a better chance of doing what it needs to do and then hopefully if you catch covid it kicks in but until you do you just don’t know
And nobody is denying this people are just pleased the program is going well.
I am aware that you need to vaccines at no point have I said that people shouldn't have it all should break the rules I'm just pleased it's going in the right direction and I think everybody should be, this is a positive thing.
Absolutely it’s a positive thing, one dose is reported to prevent serious medical issues even if you get COVID so come on folks let’s be thankful for these vaccines. We would have something yo moan about if there wasn’t any vaccine available, the we would be in a mess
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"Been into a "walking dead" centre today with my mother who's 82 Before they give the useless Pfizer vaccine they actually explain it's useless for at least another 15 weeks, assuming you get the next one in 12.. Keeps the sheep happy I suppose
None of those words were spoken in a vaccine clinic. At least you've helped your mother carry out her wish to receive it, unlike my Covidiot mother who ignored the rules, gave her father (my Grandad) Covid and he promptly died. Hopefully your mother has a few more years with her family. My Grandad doesn't have that luxury. Oh, and the day he was taken to hospital, he had an appointment for the jab. I discovered recently that he HAD been offered it sooner, but my mother didn't tell him that a message had been left on his phone. "Yes they were, I was stood next to her.. They use the words.. Not quite as effective until you've had the second dose.. And strangely, one question is Are you white British??? WTF? and the answer is logged on the computer... Go figure | |||
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"Been into a "walking dead" centre today with my mother who's 82 Before they give the useless Pfizer vaccine they actually explain it's useless for at least another 15 weeks, assuming you get the next one in 12.. Keeps the sheep happy I suppose
None of those words were spoken in a vaccine clinic. At least you've helped your mother carry out her wish to receive it, unlike my Covidiot mother who ignored the rules, gave her father (my Grandad) Covid and he promptly died. Hopefully your mother has a few more years with her family. My Grandad doesn't have that luxury. Oh, and the day he was taken to hospital, he had an appointment for the jab. I discovered recently that he HAD been offered it sooner, but my mother didn't tell him that a message had been left on his phone.
Yes they were, I was stood next to her.. They use the words..
Not quite as effective until you've had the second dose..
And strangely, one question is
Are you white British???
WTF? and the answer is logged on the computer...
Go figure
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"Been into a "walking dead" centre today with my mother who's 82 Before they give the useless Pfizer vaccine they actually explain it's useless for at least another 15 weeks, assuming you get the next one in 12.. Keeps the sheep happy I suppose
None of those words were spoken in a vaccine clinic. At least you've helped your mother carry out her wish to receive it, unlike my Covidiot mother who ignored the rules, gave her father (my Grandad) Covid and he promptly died. Hopefully your mother has a few more years with her family. My Grandad doesn't have that luxury. Oh, and the day he was taken to hospital, he had an appointment for the jab. I discovered recently that he HAD been offered it sooner, but my mother didn't tell him that a message had been left on his phone.
Yes they were, I was stood next to her.. They use the words..
Not quite as effective until you've had the second dose..
And strangely, one question is
Are you white British???
WTF? and the answer is logged on the computer...
Go figure
"I have been with someone to a vaccination centre and they said You should not expect any immunity for 3 weeks at no point was 15 weeks mentioned so I find it difficult to believe but it was with your mother because I have never heard this before. They may well have said you are not fully protected for 15 weeks but I doubt they have said that it was useless until then! | |||
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"Ok Let's start from the begining.. Blahh Blahh for a few mins, like name, dob, address, had covid before? Been vaccinated before???? Any known side effects? Taking any medication? Answer - yes Question what? Blood thinners.. No issue, I'll press harder and longer on your arm when I'm done. White? British? Yes The vaccine won't protect you from getting covid, nor from spreading it if you catch it.. Please do exactly as you have been doing, stay at home. It'll take at least 2 weeks for you to start to build up some immunity.. However, please don't change your routine, follow the rules as until you get the second jab that's when it's most successful.. That may be within 12 weeks, we've no idea. Depends on the Government.. Your GP will call you You may experience side effects.. Flu like symptoms, these should subside after a day or two.. If not call your GP or 111 Happy to go ahead? Sit over there after for 15mins just incase you have a reaction So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. So as I said the vaccination is useless for at least another 15 weeks There's 66 million in the country.. Lockdowns for at least another 10 months.. Can we stand it? " OK and thank you for explaining that because that was very different from what you first said. Surely regardless of your personal views about the virus and the impacts you feel it's a good thing that she had it no? | |||
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"Ok Let's start from the begining.. Blahh Blahh for a few mins, like name, dob, address, had covid before? Been vaccinated before???? Any known side effects? Taking any medication? Answer - yes Question what? Blood thinners.. No issue, I'll press harder and longer on your arm when I'm done. White? British? Yes The vaccine won't protect you from getting covid, nor from spreading it if you catch it.. Please do exactly as you have been doing, stay at home. It'll take at least 2 weeks for you to start to build up some immunity.. However, please don't change your routine, follow the rules as until you get the second jab that's when it's most successful.. That may be within 12 weeks, we've no idea. Depends on the Government.. Your GP will call you You may experience side effects.. Flu like symptoms, these should subside after a day or two.. If not call your GP or 111 Happy to go ahead? Sit over there after for 15mins just incase you have a reaction So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. So as I said the vaccination is useless for at least another 15 weeks There's 66 million in the country.. Lockdowns for at least another 10 months.. Can we stand it? OK and thank you for explaining that because that was very different from what you first said. Surely regardless of your personal views about the virus and the impacts you feel it's a good thing that she had it no?" Yes but reading between the lines.. A drowning man is thrown a rubber ring.. Sorry there's hardly any air in it... I'll be back sometime later and top it up.. Keep treading water When in the history of Man as there ever been a vaccine developed in two parts?? She's happy to have had her saline today.. Puts her mind at rest I guess.. And apparently, flu has vanished off the face of the earth, according to news reports this morning. An ageing and sick population kept alive with pills will succumb to a virus.. As I said.. Never seen so many dead people walking.. It's just life, irrespective of human or otherwise | |||
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"Ok Let's start from the begining.. Blahh Blahh for a few mins, like name, dob, address, had covid before? Been vaccinated before???? Any known side effects? Taking any medication? Answer - yes Question what? Blood thinners.. No issue, I'll press harder and longer on your arm when I'm done. White? British? Yes The vaccine won't protect you from getting covid, nor from spreading it if you catch it.. Please do exactly as you have been doing, stay at home. It'll take at least 2 weeks for you to start to build up some immunity.. However, please don't change your routine, follow the rules as until you get the second jab that's when it's most successful.. That may be within 12 weeks, we've no idea. Depends on the Government.. Your GP will call you You may experience side effects.. Flu like symptoms, these should subside after a day or two.. If not call your GP or 111 Happy to go ahead? Sit over there after for 15mins just incase you have a reaction So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. So as I said the vaccination is useless for at least another 15 weeks There's 66 million in the country.. Lockdowns for at least another 10 months.. Can we stand it? OK and thank you for explaining that because that was very different from what you first said. Surely regardless of your personal views about the virus and the impacts you feel it's a good thing that she had it no? Yes but reading between the lines.. A drowning man is thrown a rubber ring.. Sorry there's hardly any air in it... I'll be back sometime later and top it up.. Keep treading water When in the history of Man as there ever been a vaccine developed in two parts?? She's happy to have had her saline today.. Puts her mind at rest I guess.. And apparently, flu has vanished off the face of the earth, according to news reports this morning. An ageing and sick population kept alive with pills will succumb to a virus.. As I said.. Never seen so many dead people walking.. It's just life, irrespective of human or otherwise " Just so you know that the MMR vaccine is and always has been in 2 parts So that is when I history and im sure there have been others. | |||
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"Been into a "walking dead" centre today with my mother who's 82 Before they give the useless Pfizer vaccine they actually explain it's useless for at least another 15 weeks, assuming you get the next one in 12.. Keeps the sheep happy I suppose
None of those words were spoken in a vaccine clinic. At least you've helped your mother carry out her wish to receive it, unlike my Covidiot mother who ignored the rules, gave her father (my Grandad) Covid and he promptly died. Hopefully your mother has a few more years with her family. My Grandad doesn't have that luxury. Oh, and the day he was taken to hospital, he had an appointment for the jab. I discovered recently that he HAD been offered it sooner, but my mother didn't tell him that a message had been left on his phone.
Yes they were, I was stood next to her.. They use the words..
Not quite as effective until you've had the second dose..
And strangely, one question is
Are you white British???
WTF? and the answer is logged on the computer...
Go figure
I have been with someone to a vaccination centre and they said You should not expect any immunity for 3 weeks at no point was 15 weeks mentioned so I find it difficult to believe but it was with your mother because I have never heard this before. They may well have said you are not fully protected for 15 weeks but I doubt they have said that it was useless until then!"Fairly obvious really. Database collected to track with groups are accepting or refusing the vaccine. This data is required to track and is standard 15 weeks is clear also you get your first jab and build immunity over 3 weeks. 12 weeks after first jab and you get you second. 3 weeks to allow top up. There's the 15. Can't understand all the conspiracy aspects. Dont fully agree with the way things are, but giving this the chance and can understand timeframes etc. For once we're ahead of the curve in a good way and still people complain. | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week" Yes they are because I know here in London in a couple of Bouroghs the uptake has been really low particularly in BAME communities and they are trying to get correct and factual information and are trying to get the help of faith and community leaders. So to me it makes perfect sense that they would collate this information and actually I'm pretty sure you get asked this question for most medical things now in a questionnaire. | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week" Can’t really blame them when you see some of the horrific vaccine issues they have had in Africa. | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week" So when the data is collected? What then? Forced vaccination? Curious What about white British who just don't bother to get vaccinated.. Like the millions of over 50's that don't get a flu jab? But may catch flu and recover.. Or have a flu jab and die.. To be honest I'm sick to the back teeth of being wrapped in cotton wool.. If I hear the word "safe" again I'll scweem and scweem again There's a reasonable approach to protection this has gone beyond reasonable.. Not everyone can live forever.. It's just a fact of living 66 million aren't living and 100000 have died You do the maths | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week So when the data is collected? What then? Forced vaccination? Curious What about white British who just don't bother to get vaccinated.. Like the millions of over 50's that don't get a flu jab? But may catch flu and recover.. Or have a flu jab and die.. To be honest I'm sick to the back teeth of being wrapped in cotton wool.. If I hear the word "safe" again I'll scweem and scweem again There's a reasonable approach to protection this has gone beyond reasonable.. Not everyone can live forever.. It's just a fact of living 66 million aren't living and 100000 have died You do the maths " I’m with you on that one, aren’t we selfish? | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week So when the data is collected? What then? Forced vaccination? Curious What about white British who just don't bother to get vaccinated.. Like the millions of over 50's that don't get a flu jab? But may catch flu and recover.. Or have a flu jab and die.. To be honest I'm sick to the back teeth of being wrapped in cotton wool.. If I hear the word "safe" again I'll scweem and scweem again There's a reasonable approach to protection this has gone beyond reasonable.. Not everyone can live forever.. It's just a fact of living 66 million aren't living and 100000 have died You do the maths I’m with you on that one, aren’t we selfish?" No.. The cost, financially and otherwise is almost criminal And guess what? Schools back end of Feb' and lockdown again begining of April.. Just a guess | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week So when the data is collected? What then? Forced vaccination? Curious What about white British who just don't bother to get vaccinated.. Like the millions of over 50's that don't get a flu jab? But may catch flu and recover.. Or have a flu jab and die.. To be honest I'm sick to the back teeth of being wrapped in cotton wool.. If I hear the word "safe" again I'll scweem and scweem again There's a reasonable approach to protection this has gone beyond reasonable.. Not everyone can live forever.. It's just a fact of living 66 million aren't living and 100000 have died You do the maths I’m with you on that one, aren’t we selfish? No.. The cost, financially and otherwise is almost criminal And guess what? Schools back end of Feb' and lockdown again begining of April.. Just a guess "Couldn’t agree more. I’m going to predict the kids being out of school even longer, as grim as that is. I don’t they will go back till at least after Easter. Crazy I know but we can probably expect another lockdown shortly after that. | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week So when the data is collected? What then? Forced vaccination? Curious What about white British who just don't bother to get vaccinated.. Like the millions of over 50's that don't get a flu jab? But may catch flu and recover.. Or have a flu jab and die.. To be honest I'm sick to the back teeth of being wrapped in cotton wool.. If I hear the word "safe" again I'll scweem and scweem again There's a reasonable approach to protection this has gone beyond reasonable.. Not everyone can live forever.. It's just a fact of living 66 million aren't living and 100000 have died You do the maths I’m with you on that one, aren’t we selfish? No.. The cost, financially and otherwise is almost criminal And guess what? Schools back end of Feb' and lockdown again begining of April.. Just a guess
Couldn’t agree more.
I’m going to predict the kids being out of school even longer, as grim as that is. I don’t they will go back till at least after Easter. Crazy I know but we can probably expect another lockdown shortly after that."Yep... Try it.. Doesn't work.. Repeat... Try again... Doesn't work repeat etc £2 trillion in debt, 40% of people on furlough and most wont have a job to go back to Try it.. Didnt work... Repeat Ohh here's the bill people £2TRIILON in debt, 66 million with no life, and 100000 deaths.. Somewhat of an over reaction I think... Stay safe.. Lol | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week So when the data is collected? What then? Forced vaccination? Curious What about white British who just don't bother to get vaccinated.. Like the millions of over 50's that don't get a flu jab? But may catch flu and recover.. Or have a flu jab and die.. To be honest I'm sick to the back teeth of being wrapped in cotton wool.. If I hear the word "safe" again I'll scweem and scweem again There's a reasonable approach to protection this has gone beyond reasonable.. Not everyone can live forever.. It's just a fact of living 66 million aren't living and 100000 have died You do the maths I’m with you on that one, aren’t we selfish? No.. The cost, financially and otherwise is almost criminal And guess what? Schools back end of Feb' and lockdown again begining of April.. Just a guess
Couldn’t agree more.
I’m going to predict the kids being out of school even longer, as grim as that is. I don’t they will go back till at least after Easter. Crazy I know but we can probably expect another lockdown shortly after that.
Yep...
Try it.. Doesn't work.. Repeat... Try again... Doesn't work repeat etc
£2 trillion in debt, 40% of people on furlough and most wont have a job to go back to
Try it.. Didnt work... Repeat
Ohh here's the bill people
£2TRIILON in debt, 66 million with no life, and 100000 deaths..
Somewhat of an over reaction I think...
Stay safe.. Lol"At least we managed to cure Flu and pneumonia. | |||
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"Been into a "walking dead" centre today with my mother who's 82 Before they give the useless Pfizer vaccine they actually explain it's useless for at least another 15 weeks, assuming you get the next one in 12.. Keeps the sheep happy I suppose
None of those words were spoken in a vaccine clinic. At least you've helped your mother carry out her wish to receive it, unlike my Covidiot mother who ignored the rules, gave her father (my Grandad) Covid and he promptly died. Hopefully your mother has a few more years with her family. My Grandad doesn't have that luxury. Oh, and the day he was taken to hospital, he had an appointment for the jab. I discovered recently that he HAD been offered it sooner, but my mother didn't tell him that a message had been left on his phone.
Yes they were, I was stood next to her.. They use the words..
Not quite as effective until you've had the second dose..
And strangely, one question is
Are you white British???
WTF? and the answer is logged on the computer...
Go figure
"Your original post stated "useless vaccine". They said no such thing, absolutely guaranteed. It's a two dose regime, so the full effectiveness of the vaccine requires, guess what? Two doses. What you're saying is that vaccine clinic staff gave your mother perfectly accurate advice, as they should. She was asked her ethnicity because the vaccine rollout and it's impact is being assessed post-approval and it is well known there are potential differences in uptake, response and various other things based on ethnic background, genetics etc (which are partly determined by ethnic group). Whilst your mother's skin might be white, that does not mean she is white British. She might in fact be another European, USA, Canadian or other group and may in fact be mixed race. You cannot tell a person's ethnicity by looking at them. So, all in all, sounds like your mother was properly dealt with and cared for. Bravo! | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week So when the data is collected? What then? Forced vaccination? Curious What about white British who just don't bother to get vaccinated.. Like the millions of over 50's that don't get a flu jab? But may catch flu and recover.. Or have a flu jab and die.. To be honest I'm sick to the back teeth of being wrapped in cotton wool.. If I hear the word "safe" again I'll scweem and scweem again There's a reasonable approach to protection this has gone beyond reasonable.. Not everyone can live forever.. It's just a fact of living 66 million aren't living and 100000 have died You do the maths I’m with you on that one, aren’t we selfish? No.. The cost, financially and otherwise is almost criminal And guess what? Schools back end of Feb' and lockdown again begining of April.. Just a guess
Couldn’t agree more.
I’m going to predict the kids being out of school even longer, as grim as that is. I don’t they will go back till at least after Easter. Crazy I know but we can probably expect another lockdown shortly after that.
Yep...
Try it.. Doesn't work.. Repeat... Try again... Doesn't work repeat etc
£2 trillion in debt, 40% of people on furlough and most wont have a job to go back to
Try it.. Didnt work... Repeat
Ohh here's the bill people
£2TRIILON in debt, 66 million with no life, and 100000 deaths..
Somewhat of an over reaction I think...
Stay safe.. Lol
At least we managed to cure Flu and pneumonia."Yeah.. Hurray for science.. One extra protein and it's a whole different ball game.. Not | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week" To add, it's also to assess efficacy and safety in people and if this differs by ethnic group. Which it could, in theory. | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week So when the data is collected? What then? Forced vaccination? Curious What about white British who just don't bother to get vaccinated.. Like the millions of over 50's that don't get a flu jab? But may catch flu and recover.. Or have a flu jab and die.. To be honest I'm sick to the back teeth of being wrapped in cotton wool.. If I hear the word "safe" again I'll scweem and scweem again There's a reasonable approach to protection this has gone beyond reasonable.. Not everyone can live forever.. It's just a fact of living 66 million aren't living and 100000 have died You do the maths I’m with you on that one, aren’t we selfish? No.. The cost, financially and otherwise is almost criminal And guess what? Schools back end of Feb' and lockdown again begining of April.. Just a guess
Couldn’t agree more.
I’m going to predict the kids being out of school even longer, as grim as that is. I don’t they will go back till at least after Easter. Crazy I know but we can probably expect another lockdown shortly after that.
Yep...
Try it.. Doesn't work.. Repeat... Try again... Doesn't work repeat etc
£2 trillion in debt, 40% of people on furlough and most wont have a job to go back to
Try it.. Didnt work... Repeat
Ohh here's the bill people
£2TRIILON in debt, 66 million with no life, and 100000 deaths..
Somewhat of an over reaction I think...
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week To add, it's also to assess efficacy and safety in people and if this differs by ethnic group. Which it could, in theory. " If all groups had it then yes.. As the uptake from the group that have suffered the worst of the total death rate, in general live in crowded domicle arrangements and appear to not want to partake in the experiment.. Then the figure will be distorted.. I'm guessing it's to calcualte the actual uptake of each ethnic group so it'll highlight what needs to be done next.. Could be interesting | |||
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" So basically.. A virus that you dont know you've got unless you have a test, most don't even show symptoms, a 99.8% recovery rate and for some very strange reason you're asked race and creed before being given a vaccination??? Not a Bame member of our community in any of the 150 in the sports hall apart from one administering the vaccination.. I think they are asking race questions to collect data as a lot of the bame community are not willing to have the vaccine for various reasons so maybe they just want to know how many are We got a text from the docs asking us to reply with that info this week To add, it's also to assess efficacy and safety in people and if this differs by ethnic group. Which it could, in theory. If all groups had it then yes.. As the uptake from the group that have suffered the worst of the total death rate, in general live in crowded domicle arrangements and appear to not want to partake in the experiment.. Then the figure will be distorted.. I'm guessing it's to calcualte the actual uptake of each ethnic group so it'll highlight what needs to be done next.. Could be interesting " If people from certain ethnic groups avoid having it, then that's what the data will show. Reduced overall numbers of those groups and any data on efficacy/safety might not be statistically significant. But if enough white British people take it, we will have good data for that group. That's just what we'll have. | |||
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