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"We have been reading and hearing about the numbers for almost a year now. The numbers are people. And the sooner people who ignore the rules learn the better. I’ve know 3 through work who have died and countless who have contracted it. I’ve been lucky. I work in what they call an essential service in the food industry. The bulk of the time I am on the road but since last March I have been working indoors due to risk. I still meet people on a daily basis within my role but with the right protection and taking precautions we can get through this. However this lockdown is a bloody joke. My journey to work each morning is just as busy as if it was a normal Working day pre COVID and as for what’s happening on here. Yes we are told not to meet. But the amount of people with meet me now and let’s meet is ridiculous" Its more than ridiculous Its bloody criminal | |||
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"A further 1,725 today  "Fuck  | |||
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"A further 1,725 today "Described as a nothing burger this morning. | |||
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"A further 1,725 today "Just seen that, it's mad me feel a little overwhelmed by it all....again | |||
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"A further 1,725 today "A further 1,725 people . They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number . | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
"Every one is someone's child, parent, grandparent, neighbour, friend. | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
Every one is someone's child, parent, grandparent, neighbour, friend."Therefore they deserve respect in death ,bless them all . | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
"Do you think I dont know that? | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
Do you think I dont know that?"Not by reading your post NO | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
Do you think I dont know that?
Not by reading your post NO"What giving the figures out  | |||
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"Just waiting for the did they actually die from covid/they were all old/etc etc" They ll be along ... | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
Do you think I dont know that?
Not by reading your post NO
What giving the figures out "A further 1, 725 ! They are people ! At least put that Not just a friggin number Its disrespectful | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
Do you think I dont know that?
Not by reading your post NO
What giving the figures out
A further 1, 725 !
They are people !
At least put that
Not just a friggin number
Its disrespectful "Hey are you having a bad day? What did you want their bloody names ffs | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
Do you think I dont know that?
Not by reading your post NO
What giving the figures out
A further 1, 725 !
They are people !
At least put that
Not just a friggin number
Its disrespectful
Hey are you having a bad day?
What did you want their bloody names ffs"I'm having a great day thanks for asking. | |||
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"Just waiting for the did they actually die from covid/they were all old/etc etc"  | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
Do you think I dont know that?
Not by reading your post NO
What giving the figures out
A further 1, 725 !
They are people !
At least put that
Not just a friggin number
Its disrespectful
Hey are you having a bad day?
What did you want their bloody names ffs
I'm having a great day thanks for asking."Tho my tolerance for disrespectful sarcastic beings is running low ! | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
Do you think I dont know that?
Not by reading your post NO
What giving the figures out
A further 1, 725 !
They are people !
At least put that
Not just a friggin number
Its disrespectful
Hey are you having a bad day?
What did you want their bloody names ffs
I'm having a great day thanks for asking."Well I'd say out of respect for those who died that we leave it there. | |||
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"A further 1,725 today
A further 1,725 people .
They are somebody's loved one's , not just a number .
Do you think I dont know that?
Not by reading your post NO
What giving the figures out
A further 1, 725 !
They are people !
At least put that
Not just a friggin number
Its disrespectful
Hey are you having a bad day?
What did you want their bloody names ffs
I'm having a great day thanks for asking.
Well I'd say out of respect for those who died that we leave it there."I agree | |||
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So many lives lost and yet people still flaunt the rules | |||
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"I’ve had 3 messages today asking if I want to meet. It really annoys me. My friends step dad died on Friday from covid and her mum is in critical condition also from covid. When will people actually sit up and pay attention to this awful pandemic
So many lives lost and yet people still flaunt the rules "I'm sorry for you and your friend | |||
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"Does anyone actually believe the figure is really 100,000? The reason for death being labelled as Covid is not really the truth in the vast majority of the cases. With so many of the deaths being the very elderly they were nearing the end of the lives sadly and it has been far more straight forward to attach the Covid scenario to their unfortunate demise rather than to look beyond. Those who were elderly and many of those who were not were suffering from under lying illness which may have meant that their lives were in extreme danger regardless of the pandemic. The 100,000 figure, I believe, is a misnomer and probably is borne out of a fear message propagated by Government and health officials, banded by the media and is more of an 'ease of death certificate information' rather actual fact. Let's try to get some perspective and whilst any death is very distressing I do not feel that this figure is a true representation. Only my opinion as I have no way to back up what I have said " I dont believe it I think its more | |||
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"Does anyone actually believe the figure is really 100,000? The reason for death being labelled as Covid is not really the truth in the vast majority of the cases. With so many of the deaths being the very elderly they were nearing the end of the lives sadly and it has been far more straight forward to attach the Covid scenario to their unfortunate demise rather than to look beyond. Those who were elderly and many of those who were not were suffering from under lying illness which may have meant that their lives were in extreme danger regardless of the pandemic. The 100,000 figure, I believe, is a misnomer and probably is borne out of a fear message propagated by Government and health officials, banded by the media and is more of an 'ease of death certificate information' rather actual fact. Let's try to get some perspective and whilst any death is very distressing I do not feel that this figure is a true representation. Only my opinion as I have no way to back up what I have said " That last sentence is priceless | |||
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"Just waiting for the did they actually die from covid/they were all old/etc etc" Its arrived | |||
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"Does anyone actually believe the figure is really 100,000? The reason for death being labelled as Covid is not really the truth in the vast majority of the cases. With so many of the deaths being the very elderly they were nearing the end of the lives sadly and it has been far more straight forward to attach the Covid scenario to their unfortunate demise rather than to look beyond. Those who were elderly and many of those who were not were suffering from under lying illness which may have meant that their lives were in extreme danger regardless of the pandemic. The 100,000 figure, I believe, is a misnomer and probably is borne out of a fear message propagated by Government and health officials, banded by the media and is more of an 'ease of death certificate information' rather actual fact. Let's try to get some perspective and whilst any death is very distressing I do not feel that this figure is a true representation. Only my opinion as I have no way to back up what I have said I dont believe it I think its more " Ons figures without the 28 days is around 120,000 who have died from covid | |||
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"Does anyone actually believe the figure is really 100,000? The reason for death being labelled as Covid is not really the truth in the vast majority of the cases. With so many of the deaths being the very elderly they were nearing the end of the lives sadly and it has been far more straight forward to attach the Covid scenario to their unfortunate demise rather than to look beyond. Those who were elderly and many of those who were not were suffering from under lying illness which may have meant that their lives were in extreme danger regardless of the pandemic. The 100,000 figure, I believe, is a misnomer and probably is borne out of a fear message propagated by Government and health officials, banded by the media and is more of an 'ease of death certificate information' rather actual fact. Let's try to get some perspective and whilst any death is very distressing I do not feel that this figure is a true representation. Only my opinion as I have no way to back up what I have said That last sentence is priceless " The last sentence is honest So many on here give opinions that feel are facts and become embroiled in arguments I have only said what I think and not tried to be bullish or emphatic about something of which I have no proof | |||
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"Does anyone actually believe the figure is really 100,000? The reason for death being labelled as Covid is not really the truth in the vast majority of the cases. With so many of the deaths being the very elderly they were nearing the end of the lives sadly and it has been far more straight forward to attach the Covid scenario to their unfortunate demise rather than to look beyond. Those who were elderly and many of those who were not were suffering from under lying illness which may have meant that their lives were in extreme danger regardless of the pandemic. The 100,000 figure, I believe, is a misnomer and probably is borne out of a fear message propagated by Government and health officials, banded by the media and is more of an 'ease of death certificate information' rather actual fact. Let's try to get some perspective and whilst any death is very distressing I do not feel that this figure is a true representation. Only my opinion as I have no way to back up what I have said That last sentence is priceless The last sentence is honest So many on here give opinions that feel are facts and become embroiled in arguments I have only said what I think and not tried to be bullish or emphatic about something of which I have no proof " Yet you said earlier on..the reason for death being levelled as covid Is not really the truth? Why would they exaggerate it? | |||
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"Does anyone actually believe the figure is really 100,000? The reason for death being labelled as Covid is not really the truth in the vast majority of the cases. With so many of the deaths being the very elderly they were nearing the end of the lives sadly and it has been far more straight forward to attach the Covid scenario to their unfortunate demise rather than to look beyond. Those who were elderly and many of those who were not were suffering from under lying illness which may have meant that their lives were in extreme danger regardless of the pandemic. The 100,000 figure, I believe, is a misnomer and probably is borne out of a fear message propagated by Government and health officials, banded by the media and is more of an 'ease of death certificate information' rather actual fact. Let's try to get some perspective and whilst any death is very distressing I do not feel that this figure is a true representation. Only my opinion as I have no way to back up what I have said " Ok. What exactly happened in 2020 to make the excess deaths spike way above the expected normal? If all these people were going to pop their clogs anyway, the rate would be similar to other years. Like others, I believe 100k is an underestimate, and obviously it also doesn't account for medium to long term effects/disability. | |||
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"Does anyone actually believe the figure is really 100,000? The reason for death being labelled as Covid is not really the truth in the vast majority of the cases. With so many of the deaths being the very elderly they were nearing the end of the lives sadly and it has been far more straight forward to attach the Covid scenario to their unfortunate demise rather than to look beyond. Those who were elderly and many of those who were not were suffering from under lying illness which may have meant that their lives were in extreme danger regardless of the pandemic. The 100,000 figure, I believe, is a misnomer and probably is borne out of a fear message propagated by Government and health officials, banded by the media and is more of an 'ease of death certificate information' rather actual fact. Let's try to get some perspective and whilst any death is very distressing I do not feel that this figure is a true representation. Only my opinion as I have no way to back up what I have said That last sentence is priceless The last sentence is honest So many on here give opinions that feel are facts and become embroiled in arguments I have only said what I think and not tried to be bullish or emphatic about something of which I have no proof Yet you said earlier on..the reason for death being levelled as covid Is not really the truth? Why would they exaggerate it?" I am not of the opinion it has simply been exaggerated but that it has perhaps been a label misused in some circumstances. For example, if a person of 94 who was not in perfect health suddenly died, could this be caused by Covid or would that person have died at that time regardless? Many elderly people die of flu, respiratory issues or pneumonia, vivid happens to be prevalent but may not necessarily be the actual cause. | |||
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"Does anyone actually believe the figure is really 100,000? The reason for death being labelled as Covid is not really the truth in the vast majority of the cases. With so many of the deaths being the very elderly they were nearing the end of the lives sadly and it has been far more straight forward to attach the Covid scenario to their unfortunate demise rather than to look beyond. Those who were elderly and many of those who were not were suffering from under lying illness which may have meant that their lives were in extreme danger regardless of the pandemic. The 100,000 figure, I believe, is a misnomer and probably is borne out of a fear message propagated by Government and health officials, banded by the media and is more of an 'ease of death certificate information' rather actual fact. Let's try to get some perspective and whilst any death is very distressing I do not feel that this figure is a true representation. Only my opinion as I have no way to back up what I have said That last sentence is priceless The last sentence is honest So many on here give opinions that feel are facts and become embroiled in arguments I have only said what I think and not tried to be bullish or emphatic about something of which I have no proof Yet you said earlier on..the reason for death being levelled as covid Is not really the truth? Why would they exaggerate it? I am not of the opinion it has simply been exaggerated but that it has perhaps been a label misused in some circumstances. For example, if a person of 94 who was not in perfect health suddenly died, could this be caused by Covid or would that person have died at that time regardless? Many elderly people die of flu, respiratory issues or pneumonia, vivid happens to be prevalent but may not necessarily be the actual cause." For what purpose? | |||
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"Does anyone actually believe the figure is really 100,000? The reason for death being labelled as Covid is not really the truth in the vast majority of the cases. With so many of the deaths being the very elderly they were nearing the end of the lives sadly and it has been far more straight forward to attach the Covid scenario to their unfortunate demise rather than to look beyond. Those who were elderly and many of those who were not were suffering from under lying illness which may have meant that their lives were in extreme danger regardless of the pandemic. The 100,000 figure, I believe, is a misnomer and probably is borne out of a fear message propagated by Government and health officials, banded by the media and is more of an 'ease of death certificate information' rather actual fact. Let's try to get some perspective and whilst any death is very distressing I do not feel that this figure is a true representation. Only my opinion as I have no way to back up what I have said That last sentence is priceless The last sentence is honest So many on here give opinions that feel are facts and become embroiled in arguments I have only said what I think and not tried to be bullish or emphatic about something of which I have no proof Yet you said earlier on..the reason for death being levelled as covid Is not really the truth? Why would they exaggerate it? I am not of the opinion it has simply been exaggerated but that it has perhaps been a label misused in some circumstances. For example, if a person of 94 who was not in perfect health suddenly died, could this be caused by Covid or would that person have died at that time regardless? Many elderly people die of flu, respiratory issues or pneumonia, vivid happens to be prevalent but may not necessarily be the actual cause." You do know that tests exist, right? | |||
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"I fear that you folks misunderstand... I am claiming nothing and I am simply giving my opinion. Yours is what you have and this is mine I am comfortable with your view and I am satisfied with mine How we choose to evaluate things in our minds and air them freely is of our own volition I shall now return to my pot noodle and continue my impressionist crocheting of the bayeux tapestry " Goodness, I wasn't aware that ONS death statistics were a matter of personal opinion  | |||
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"I fear that you folks misunderstand... I am claiming nothing and I am simply giving my opinion. Yours is what you have and this is mine I am comfortable with your view and I am satisfied with mine How we choose to evaluate things in our minds and air them freely is of our own volition I shall now return to my pot noodle and continue my impressionist crocheting of the bayeux tapestry " | |||
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"I’ve had 3 messages today asking if I want to meet. It really annoys me. My friends step dad died on Friday from covid and her mum is in critical condition also from covid. When will people actually sit up and pay attention to this awful pandemic
So many lives lost and yet people still flaunt the rules
I'm sorry for you and your friend"Thank you. Both of her parents are only in their early 50’s. Such sad times at the moment. X | |||
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"I’ve had 3 messages today asking if I want to meet. It really annoys me. My friends step dad died on Friday from covid and her mum is in critical condition also from covid. When will people actually sit up and pay attention to this awful pandemic
So many lives lost and yet people still flaunt the rules
I'm sorry for you and your friend
Thank you. Both of her parents are only in their early 50’s.
Such sad times at the moment.
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"I had word today that my cousin's husband passed away last night from Covid. This is a truly horrible virus, it doesn't care who it infects and kills. Please, please. Please... Follow the rules,stay safe and do your bit to keep others safe." I'm so sorry for your loss | |||
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"I had word today that my cousin's husband passed away last night from Covid. This is a truly horrible virus, it doesn't care who it infects and kills. Please, please. Please... Follow the rules,stay safe and do your bit to keep others safe. I'm so sorry for your loss" Thank you | |||
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"I fear that you folks misunderstand... I am claiming nothing and I am simply giving my opinion. Yours is what you have and this is mine I am comfortable with your view and I am satisfied with mine How we choose to evaluate things in our minds and air them freely is of our own volition I shall now return to my pot noodle and continue my impressionist crocheting of the bayeux tapestry Goodness, I wasn't aware that ONS death statistics were a matter of personal opinion "The personal opinion is whether you choose to believe them If everybody believed every figure that was fed to them or was inclined to be duped into accepting every data, statistic or poll then we would become hollow unthinking robots Many figures have undoubtedly been manipulated or adjusted to give implied details that appear valid I simply hold a view that is different to yours, it is a perfectly reasonable stance to take. Thank you | |||
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"I fear that you folks misunderstand... I am claiming nothing and I am simply giving my opinion. Yours is what you have and this is mine I am comfortable with your view and I am satisfied with mine How we choose to evaluate things in our minds and air them freely is of our own volition I shall now return to my pot noodle and continue my impressionist crocheting of the bayeux tapestry Goodness, I wasn't aware that ONS death statistics were a matter of personal opinion
The personal opinion is whether you choose to believe them
If everybody believed every figure that was fed to them or was inclined to be duped into accepting every data, statistic or poll then we would become hollow unthinking robots
Many figures have undoubtedly been manipulated or adjusted to give implied details that appear valid
I simply hold a view that is different to yours, it is a perfectly reasonable stance to take. Thank you"Hence the questions about why would they lie. We're asking why you don't trust the source. I'm perfectly aware that believing everything blindly is a bad idea, but to claim it's wrong because maybe someone died randomly and they were added to the stats is a bit... implausible. | |||
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"I had word today that my cousin's husband passed away last night from Covid. This is a truly horrible virus, it doesn't care who it infects and kills. Please, please. Please... Follow the rules,stay safe and do your bit to keep others safe." I’m so sorry to hear your news. This virus is just awful. X | |||
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"I had word today that my cousin's husband passed away last night from Covid. This is a truly horrible virus, it doesn't care who it infects and kills. Please, please. Please... Follow the rules,stay safe and do your bit to keep others safe. I’m so sorry to hear your news. This virus is just awful. X" Thank you x | |||
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"Numbers may be inaccurate and other countries have perhaps understated the deaths, but people are still dead! People love to blame the government but in reality it is people that spread the virus, sometimes unavoidably, sometimes stupidly. If all the global numbers are accurate then the question is why are we so high in the death rankings? Our health service, although strained, is still one of the largest employers in the world. Are we really that unhealthy as a nation that we are more susceptible?" Look to restrictions/ policies. Delayed lockdowns, inadequate protection for workers, restricted access to tests early (plus a limited symptom list now), ongoing bullshit with care homes, masking and bubble policy in schools, eat out to help out, group of six, the Cummings effect, and more. | |||
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"I appreciate delays will have had a detrimental effect but ours are so spectacularly bad there must be other issues" I named a few  | |||
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"I appreciate delays will have had a detrimental effect but ours are so spectacularly bad there must be other issues" It's a whole combination of issues, some mentioned, some will be unknown. International travel not sufficiently curtailed anywhere quick enough. In 1917 during the last pandemic, how long would it have taken someone to get from Wuhan to the UK? At sea from Shanghai it's around 50 days without stopping. Today, Wuhan, about 15 hours... | |||
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"I appreciate delays will have had a detrimental effect but ours are so spectacularly bad there must be other issues" There was a piece on Newsnight last night which gave a really good precis with regards to why our numbers are where they are.. Poverty is a determining factor, health, age all play a part too.. There was a GP who has worked in Fleetwood, Lancs which is a deprived area who said in the last 30 years he's seen a decline in health in his area despite the advances made medicines and treatment wise in that time.. | |||
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"I appreciate delays will have had a detrimental effect but ours are so spectacularly bad there must be other issues There was a piece on Newsnight last night which gave a really good precis with regards to why our numbers are where they are.. Poverty is a determining factor, health, age all play a part too.. There was a GP who has worked in Fleetwood, Lancs which is a deprived area who said in the last 30 years he's seen a decline in health in his area despite the advances made medicines and treatment wise in that time.." There was a report last year which said life expectancy was slowing down in parts of the north. Obviously through a myriad of factors but the change has been over the last decade. Think they have already said areas of high poverty are hit disproportionately during the pandemic. | |||
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"I appreciate delays will have had a detrimental effect but ours are so spectacularly bad there must be other issues There was a piece on Newsnight last night which gave a really good precis with regards to why our numbers are where they are.. Poverty is a determining factor, health, age all play a part too.. There was a GP who has worked in Fleetwood, Lancs which is a deprived area who said in the last 30 years he's seen a decline in health in his area despite the advances made medicines and treatment wise in that time.. There was a report last year which said life expectancy was slowing down in parts of the north. Obviously through a myriad of factors but the change has been over the last decade. Think they have already said areas of high poverty are hit disproportionately during the pandemic." Think the difference between affluent and deprived areas was someone in the latter is 2.5 times more likely to catch covid than the former.. That we have in a country if such wealth such disparities in health is shameful.. | |||
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"The poor have far less access to good health care, but let not point fingers at the cuntservatives as to why that might be ""They did their best" | |||
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"I appreciate delays will have had a detrimental effect but ours are so spectacularly bad there must be other issues There was a piece on Newsnight last night which gave a really good precis with regards to why our numbers are where they are.. Poverty is a determining factor, health, age all play a part too.. There was a GP who has worked in Fleetwood, Lancs which is a deprived area who said in the last 30 years he's seen a decline in health in his area despite the advances made medicines and treatment wise in that time.. There was a report last year which said life expectancy was slowing down in parts of the north. Obviously through a myriad of factors but the change has been over the last decade. Think they have already said areas of high poverty are hit disproportionately during the pandemic. Think the difference between affluent and deprived areas was someone in the latter is 2.5 times more likely to catch covid than the former.. That we have in a country if such wealth such disparities in health is shameful.." It is most certainly. | |||
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"After sifting through all the above. God. Some went way off target It’s simple. The reports say 100000 linked to COVID deaths. Today as we stand taking in the past few days it is actually 102,254. But I’ll tell you one thing. There could be thousands that havnt been recorded and many more to be added. Back home in Ireland. Unfortunate the daily average is around 49 deaths per day with approx 2000 new cases each day. Now with a lower population than the uk it’s still a high number but it shows that with a proper lockdown and strict enforcement we can help bring the numbers down. So all you lot who have meet me now all over your profiles. Please please please. Go fucking jump off a cliff already "  | |||
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