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"Can’t believe the school allowed it "Maybe caretaker was a guest....or charged to organise it....sacked...? | |||
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"320,000£ in fines if my maths is correct" It was a Jewish school. Only the organisers (£10k) and five guests (£200) got fined. | |||
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"... £200,000 of which would be paid by the tax payer, if they all catch covid, isolate, and get the £500 being talked about this morning. "Apart from the £500 hasnt started yet  | |||
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"... £200,000 of which would be paid by the tax payer, if they all catch covid, isolate, and get the £500 being talked about this morning.
Apart from the £500 hasnt started yet "thankfully ...
Make the buggers pay out of their own pocket
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"Was a rave in a rented house bout 3 miles from me last week.150 attended only 10 were fined" If everyone runs, they haven't got much chance of catching many in fairness, if every fire escape in the school burst open and 400 people started piling out, it would take a few police to stop and detain that lot. I guess if they start investigating it like a serious crime, they could ID more, at what cost though. | |||
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"Lets see Priti deal with this one... The police couldn't even detain everyone to fine them and it all took place at a school... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55764673" The new £800 fine takes three days to get through the Commons, the Upper House then Royal Assent. So this one may not apply. | |||
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"Was a rave in a rented house bout 3 miles from me last week.150 attended only 10 were fined If everyone runs, they haven't got much chance of catching many in fairness, if every fire escape in the school burst open and 400 people started piling out, it would take a few police to stop and detain that lot. I guess if they start investigating it like a serious crime, they could ID more, at what cost though. " It may cost now but it sets a prescedent and then becomes a deterrent which saves more than the cost but is impossible to calculate. Personally on the issue of paying out for those off due to Covid is a slippery slope I'm uncomfortable with. | |||
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"Was a rave in a rented house bout 3 miles from me last week.150 attended only 10 were fined If everyone runs, they haven't got much chance of catching many in fairness, if every fire escape in the school burst open and 400 people started piling out, it would take a few police to stop and detain that lot. I guess if they start investigating it like a serious crime, they could ID more, at what cost though. " Probably a lot less than the potential in fines. This is were we have listened to the top copper on tv last night saying they were coming down hard on it...well we are watching and it's no point bringing new laws in if you dont carry them through imo | |||
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"320,000£ in fines if my maths is correct It was a Jewish school. Only the organisers (£10k) and five guests (£200) got fined. " Well they weren't students after all | |||
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"Was a rave in a rented house bout 3 miles from me last week.150 attended only 10 were fined If everyone runs, they haven't got much chance of catching many in fairness, if every fire escape in the school burst open and 400 people started piling out, it would take a few police to stop and detain that lot. I guess if they start investigating it like a serious crime, they could ID more, at what cost though. " Yeah I can just see auntie Rebecca and oma golda shinning up the drain pipe and outrunning finchleys finest | |||
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"This event must have been authorised by the head teacher and governors of the school. What on earth were they thinking ? The school is closed to pupils and yet they allow a wedding ! It totally beggers belief and i suggest at the very least the head resigns - but of course they wont. " Apparently the school lease the hall out, via a third party. The school are rightly appalled, have terminated the arrangement with the third party and will not lease the hall out again during the pandemic. | |||
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"This event must have been authorised by the head teacher and governors of the school. What on earth were they thinking ? The school is closed to pupils and yet they allow a wedding ! It totally beggers belief and i suggest at the very least the head resigns - but of course they wont. Apparently the school lease the hall out, via a third party. The school are rightly appalled, have terminated the arrangement with the third party and will not lease the hall out again during the pandemic. " We won't do it again honest! Seriously, we are in lock down. What made them think renting the hall out was permitted let alone responsible? There's more to this than meets the eye. I imagine there are a few connections that need exploring further. | |||
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"This event must have been authorised by the head teacher and governors of the school. What on earth were they thinking ? The school is closed to pupils and yet they allow a wedding ! It totally beggers belief and i suggest at the very least the head resigns - but of course they wont. Apparently the school lease the hall out, via a third party. The school are rightly appalled, have terminated the arrangement with the third party and will not lease the hall out again during the pandemic. " Surely the school cannot abdicate responsibility so easily ! Oh yeh, sorry wasn't our fault was someone else renting out our building without telling us who was using it and blacking out the windows today !!! | |||
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"This event must have been authorised by the head teacher and governors of the school. What on earth were they thinking ? The school is closed to pupils and yet they allow a wedding ! It totally beggers belief and i suggest at the very least the head resigns - but of course they wont. Apparently the school lease the hall out, via a third party. The school are rightly appalled, have terminated the arrangement with the third party and will not lease the hall out again during the pandemic. Surely the school cannot abdicate responsibility so easily ! Oh yeh, sorry wasn't our fault was someone else renting out our building without telling us who was using it and blacking out the windows today !!!" I agree. The school would have been aware because unless they have a different system to the school I work in and it has a similar thing where it's a 3rd party but it is still the school care taker that opens up the building and often stays on or at least Regularly monitors the site during the duration of the event. | |||
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"This event must have been authorised by the head teacher and governors of the school. What on earth were they thinking ? The school is closed to pupils and yet they allow a wedding ! It totally beggers belief and i suggest at the very least the head resigns - but of course they wont. Apparently the school lease the hall out, via a third party. The school are rightly appalled, have terminated the arrangement with the third party and will not lease the hall out again during the pandemic. Surely the school cannot abdicate responsibility so easily ! Oh yeh, sorry wasn't our fault was someone else renting out our building without telling us who was using it and blacking out the windows today !!! I agree. The school would have been aware because unless they have a different system to the school I work in and it has a similar thing where it's a 3rd party but it is still the school care taker that opens up the building and often stays on or at least Regularly monitors the site during the duration of the event." Just saying on the news, that the agency that hired out the hall, have their own key... | |||
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"This event must have been authorised by the head teacher and governors of the school. What on earth were they thinking ? The school is closed to pupils and yet they allow a wedding ! It totally beggers belief and i suggest at the very least the head resigns - but of course they wont. Apparently the school lease the hall out, via a third party. The school are rightly appalled, have terminated the arrangement with the third party and will not lease the hall out again during the pandemic. Surely the school cannot abdicate responsibility so easily ! Oh yeh, sorry wasn't our fault was someone else renting out our building without telling us who was using it and blacking out the windows today !!! I agree. The school would have been aware because unless they have a different system to the school I work in and it has a similar thing where it's a 3rd party but it is still the school care taker that opens up the building and often stays on or at least Regularly monitors the site during the duration of the event. Just saying on the news, that the agency that hired out the hall, have their own key..." Wonder if there are any links between the "agency" and the governors. | |||
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"This event must have been authorised by the head teacher and governors of the school. What on earth were they thinking ? The school is closed to pupils and yet they allow a wedding ! It totally beggers belief and i suggest at the very least the head resigns - but of course they wont. Apparently the school lease the hall out, via a third party. The school are rightly appalled, have terminated the arrangement with the third party and will not lease the hall out again during the pandemic. Surely the school cannot abdicate responsibility so easily ! Oh yeh, sorry wasn't our fault was someone else renting out our building without telling us who was using it and blacking out the windows today !!! I agree. The school would have been aware because unless they have a different system to the school I work in and it has a similar thing where it's a 3rd party but it is still the school care taker that opens up the building and often stays on or at least Regularly monitors the site during the duration of the event. Just saying on the news, that the agency that hired out the hall, have their own key... Wonder if there are any links between the "agency" and the governors. " Yes...good point | |||
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"I feel every adult guest should be fined and organisers sent to prison. I hope the jewish organisations publicly condenm this. These arseholes encourage anti semetism they need to be made an example of in China would have locked them all up." 'Encourages anti semetism'?! For whom - people like you maybe? Yes, send them to China where over 1 million Uyghur Muslims are forcibly 'detained', persecuted and being killed in what can only be called concentration camps. Is that what you meant? Would you be happier ? If not, maybe keep your vile views to yourself. There's always one that will mention race . This is not about race , this is about rules and laws being broken, so why mention 'Jewish organisations'? As I said , a vile post | |||
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"I feel every adult guest should be fined and organisers sent to prison. I hope the jewish organisations publicly condenm this. These arseholes encourage anti semetism they need to be made an example of in China would have locked them all up. 'Encourages anti semetism'?! For whom - people like you maybe? Yes, send them to China where over 1 million Uyghur Muslims are forcibly 'detained', persecuted and being killed in what can only be called concentration camps. Is that what you meant? Would you be happier ? If not, maybe keep your vile views to yourself. There's always one that will mention race . This is not about race , this is about rules and laws being broken, so why mention 'Jewish organisations'? As I said , a vile post " It was a Jewish wedding held in a Jewish school? | |||
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"This event must have been authorised by the head teacher and governors of the school. What on earth were they thinking ? The school is closed to pupils and yet they allow a wedding ! It totally beggers belief and i suggest at the very least the head resigns - but of course they wont. Apparently the school lease the hall out, via a third party. The school are rightly appalled, have terminated the arrangement with the third party and will not lease the hall out again during the pandemic. Surely the school cannot abdicate responsibility so easily ! Oh yeh, sorry wasn't our fault was someone else renting out our building without telling us who was using it and blacking out the windows today !!! I agree. The school would have been aware because unless they have a different system to the school I work in and it has a similar thing where it's a 3rd party but it is still the school care taker that opens up the building and often stays on or at least Regularly monitors the site during the duration of the event. Just saying on the news, that the agency that hired out the hall, have their own key..." That is possible but I'm dubious that the school were not be aware that event was going to take place. I do believe they probably weren't aware of the numbers involved but at the moment no events are meant to be happening. | |||
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"I feel every adult guest should be fined and organisers sent to prison. I hope the jewish organisations publicly condenm this. These arseholes encourage anti semetism they need to be made an example of in China would have locked them all up. We are in lockdown. The govt guidelines are very simple. Everyone attended should be fined and whoever allowed it should be sacked. Thousands of people dying everyday because of covid. People are taking the piss to be honest 'Encourages anti semetism'?! For whom - people like you maybe? Yes, send them to China where over 1 million Uyghur Muslims are forcibly 'detained', persecuted and being killed in what can only be called concentration camps. Is that what you meant? Would you be happier ? If not, maybe keep your vile views to yourself. There's always one that will mention race . This is not about race , this is about rules and laws being broken, so why mention 'Jewish organisations'? As I said , a vile post " | |||
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"I feel every adult guest should be fined and organisers sent to prison. I hope the jewish organisations publicly condenm this. These arseholes encourage anti semetism they need to be made an example of in China would have locked them all up. 'Encourages anti semetism'?! For whom - people like you maybe? Yes, send them to China where over 1 million Uyghur Muslims are forcibly 'detained', persecuted and being killed in what can only be called concentration camps. Is that what you meant? Would you be happier ? If not, maybe keep your vile views to yourself. There's always one that will mention race . This is not about race , this is about rules and laws being broken, so why mention 'Jewish organisations'? As I said , a vile post It was a Jewish wedding held in a Jewish school? " But it hardly encouraged anti semtism | |||
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"The fact that this was a Jewish school and a Jewish (presumably) wedding is totally irrelevant as far as I am concerned. It does not may me think less of any other Jewish people or organisations. For me these folks are foolish at best, idiotic or stupid at the worst; their religious beliefs are not the issue here their judgement is. As for the school being aware, surely even if this was arranged by a third party then surely the school have to be informed about any function for health and safety assessments, insurance purposes, and safeguarding issues. As a school governor for many years with responsibility for lettings nothing and I mean nothing happened in our buildings without he head and governors knowing and a school caretaker present. " The fact they are Jewish is irrelevant the fact they are a group isn't, and agree they all knew | |||
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"Turns out it was only 150, looks like someone actually counted rather than just guessed at a figure...standard covid practice "That's OK then. | |||
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"I feel every adult guest should be fined and organisers sent to prison. I hope the jewish organisations publicly condenm this. These arseholes encourage anti semetism they need to be made an example of in China would have locked them all up. 'Encourages anti semetism'?! For whom - people like you maybe? Yes, send them to China where over 1 million Uyghur Muslims are forcibly 'detained', persecuted and being killed in what can only be called concentration camps. Is that what you meant? Would you be happier ? If not, maybe keep your vile views to yourself. There's always one that will mention race . This is not about race , this is about rules and laws being broken, so why mention 'Jewish organisations'? As I said , a vile post It was a Jewish wedding held in a Jewish school? " Another one! | |||
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"Lets see Priti deal with this one... The police couldn't even detain everyone to fine them and it all took place at a school... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55764673 The new £800 fine takes three days to get through the Commons, the Upper House then Royal Assent. So this one may not apply. " How many of these laws have passed that way ? | |||
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"I feel every adult guest should be fined and organisers sent to prison. I hope the jewish organisations publicly condenm this. These arseholes encourage anti semetism they need to be made an example of in China would have locked them all up. 'Encourages anti semetism'?! For whom - people like you maybe? Yes, send them to China where over 1 million Uyghur Muslims are forcibly 'detained', persecuted and being killed in what can only be called concentration camps. Is that what you meant? Would you be happier ? If not, maybe keep your vile views to yourself. There's always one that will mention race . This is not about race , this is about rules and laws being broken, so why mention 'Jewish organisations'? As I said , a vile post " Thanks i wanted to say that. You saved me the trouble. | |||
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"Lock them all up.. just leave enough gap under the door... for a biscuit... "Thats a nice thing to say about Jewish people. Mr hitler would be so proud of you  | |||
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"From my expertise in event management over many years, the school may well have handed over the keys to a third party to organise events in their property, but doing so, they cannot absolve themselves of any blame, nor whinge "we'd no idea!" They, as the property owners are still legally liable for any event being held on their premises and as the lawful saying goes, "ignorance is no defence" applies here. It could occur as to who was the overall Licensee, who were the Personal Licence holders etc, what security there was and a whole raft of other legal clauses and who was responsible for them. But if the local authorities plus the Police are on the ball, the place could end up being banned from having any events in future. Certainly, why not question the Bride and Groom, as they knew likely knew of each guest invited? Then trace every one, and fine the whole damn lot! But what goes through people's minds when they join several hundred others and think it's ok with a "it won't happen to me attitude!" " Well it can't be beyond our great detectives to get the guest list of the wedding surely. I mean nobody just rocks up at a wedding uninvited.... Apart from vince vaughn and Owen Wilson. | |||
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"Can’t believe the school allowed it ".. It was a Jewish school and a Jewish wedding but the school claimed they didn't know what it was being hired for? If you believe that you'll believe anything | |||
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"320,000£ in fines if my maths is correct It was a Jewish school. Only the organisers (£10k) and five guests (£200) got fined. " They negotiated a discount for bulk offending lol | |||
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"For some reason the BBC have studiously avoided telling people it was an authodox Jewish wedding. And to emphasise the stupidity... A rabbi who was formerly headmaster at the school died of Covid a few months ago. " They tend not to mention certain religions in certain contexts. | |||
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"For some reason the BBC have studiously avoided telling people it was an authodox Jewish wedding. And to emphasise the stupidity... A rabbi who was formerly headmaster at the school died of Covid a few months ago. They tend not to mention certain religions in certain contexts. "
Not sure what difference their religion or origins or whatever has to do with breaking covid rules.
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"For some reason the BBC have studiously avoided telling people it was an authodox Jewish wedding. And to emphasise the stupidity... A rabbi who was formerly headmaster at the school died of Covid a few months ago. They tend not to mention certain religions in certain contexts.
Not sure what difference their religion or origins or whatever has to do with breaking covid rules.
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"For some reason the BBC have studiously avoided telling people it was an authodox Jewish wedding. And to emphasise the stupidity... A rabbi who was formerly headmaster at the school died of Covid a few months ago. " No ones religion has anything to do with why rules are being broken, no different than they don’t mention the colour of someone’s skin.... neither have anything to do with why the rules were broken or the fines issued | |||
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"For some reason the BBC have studiously avoided telling people it was an authodox Jewish wedding. And to emphasise the stupidity... A rabbi who was formerly headmaster at the school died of Covid a few months ago. They tend not to mention certain religions in certain contexts.
Not sure what difference their religion or origins or whatever has to do with breaking covid rules.
It does to an antisemite! "Hence why they didn't mention it perhaps? | |||
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"For some reason the BBC have studiously avoided telling people it was an authodox Jewish wedding. And to emphasise the stupidity... A rabbi who was formerly headmaster at the school died of Covid a few months ago. No ones religion has anything to do with why rules are being broken, no different than they don’t mention the colour of someone’s skin.... neither have anything to do with why the rules were broken or the fines issued " Indeed | |||
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"I feel every adult guest should be fined and organisers sent to prison. I hope the jewish organisations publicly condenm this. These arseholes encourage anti semetism they need to be made an example of in China would have locked them all up. 'Encourages anti semetism'?! For whom - people like you maybe? Yes, send them to China where over 1 million Uyghur Muslims are forcibly 'detained', persecuted and being killed in what can only be called concentration camps. Is that what you meant? Would you be happier ? If not, maybe keep your vile views to yourself. There's always one that will mention race . This is not about race , this is about rules and laws being broken, so why mention 'Jewish organisations'? As I said , a vile post It was a Jewish wedding held in a Jewish school? " What does race, colour have anything to with this? It's only relevant to an antisemite I'd suggest | |||
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"I feel every adult guest should be fined and organisers sent to prison. I hope the jewish organisations publicly condenm this. These arseholes encourage anti semetism they need to be made an example of in China would have locked them all up. 'Encourages anti semetism'?! For whom - people like you maybe? Yes, send them to China where over 1 million Uyghur Muslims are forcibly 'detained', persecuted and being killed in what can only be called concentration camps. Is that what you meant? Would you be happier ? If not, maybe keep your vile views to yourself. There's always one that will mention race . This is not about race , this is about rules and laws being broken, so why mention 'Jewish organisations'? As I said , a vile post It was a Jewish wedding held in a Jewish school? What does race, colour have anything to with this? It's only relevant to an antisemite I'd suggest" What does anti semitism have to do with it? | |||
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"Telling people if they speak the truth they are racist is bullying. "You need to read the posts properly before you bully! | |||
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"Telling people if they speak the truth they are racist is bullying.
You need to read the posts properly before you bully! "It's a statement, like oranges are orange. To bully it has to have an intended target. | |||
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"Let's turn this around. Let's imagine that the Police uncovered a Christian wedding taking place in a CofE School Church hall. Would any headlines be "Christian wedding in Christian venue busted for lockdown breaches" and would any poster on here make a point of highlighting the religious background of the event or ask that "Christian organisations" condemn it? I don't know the precise answer to that question, but I suspect that Christianity would NOT be highlighted in the same way the Jewish faith has been here. " To be fair they did exactly that for the funeral they broke up in Hertfordshire... Explicitly stated it was aroman Catholic funeral. | |||
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"Let's turn this around. Let's imagine that the Police uncovered a Christian wedding taking place in a CofE School Church hall. Would any headlines be "Christian wedding in Christian venue busted for lockdown breaches" and would any poster on here make a point of highlighting the religious background of the event or ask that "Christian organisations" condemn it? I don't know the precise answer to that question, but I suspect that Christianity would NOT be highlighted in the same way the Jewish faith has been here. " No one really highlighted it though.. I think one person mentioned it and there have been a few rather bizarre comments about anti semitism. | |||
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"Let's turn this around. Let's imagine that the Police uncovered a Christian wedding taking place in a CofE School Church hall. Would any headlines be "Christian wedding in Christian venue busted for lockdown breaches" and would any poster on here make a point of highlighting the religious background of the event or ask that "Christian organisations" condemn it? I don't know the precise answer to that question, but I suspect that Christianity would NOT be highlighted in the same way the Jewish faith has been here. " Precisely and very well put. Exactly what I said and I'm accused of 'bullying'! | |||
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