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"Japan is one of the healthiest nations on earth with one of the lowest obesity rates. They are also fastidiously clean and hygienic. " Yup and also very socially responsible. | |||
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"Reported in the Guardian on tues, and widely reported elsewhere.....Japans total infection count has doubled to 338,000 in 6 weeks and the fatality total is 4650. We’re reporting almost their total case numbers every week and 40% of their fatalities every day? They have a population of 126m and much greater population density and they haven’t closed bars, restaurants or schools..... How are they doing it and why isn’t this all over the news? " Closed borders for non essential travels, if you need to go you probably have to quarantine in a hotel at your own expense or company expense, they are a population that follow the rules! They are extremely prone to put the whole community first before their own needs, they used to put masks for long before we did even if they had a cold. And that’s because they were brought up thinking that way about others. (Put a mask cos you don’t want to spread your own germs on others) Also I’ve read in Asia , surprisingly they still have their own variant And apparently its a weak one! The Chinese variant was/is weaker to the ones that have been circulating here So it’s a bit of a mix of all these things really! Ps: they do put rules in place from time to time, tightening and opening up, or so I’ve heard from you tubers in Japan, but nothing compared to here. | |||
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"Japan is one of the healthiest nations on earth with one of the lowest obesity rates. They are also fastidiously clean and hygienic. " This is super true! I love Japan  | |||
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" They are extremely prone to put the whole community first before their own needs, they used to put masks for long before we did even if they had a cold. And that’s because they were brought up thinking that way about others. (Put a mask cos you don’t want to spread your own germs on others) " This is true in several east asian countries. We put on mask when we are not healthy, even before Covid. And you are right too about the culture of putting others first. Sadly though, the younger generations are beginning to turn away from that to be more "western". | |||
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" They are extremely prone to put the whole community first before their own needs, they used to put masks for long before we did even if they had a cold. And that’s because they were brought up thinking that way about others. (Put a mask cos you don’t want to spread your own germs on others) This is true in several east asian countries. We put on mask when we are not healthy, even before Covid. And you are right too about the culture of putting others first. Sadly though, the younger generations are beginning to turn away from that to be more "western"." I’ve been to Asia and have to say I’ve noticed that! When I went to Japan there was this old lady who was standing so I left her my seat right away, at first she didn’t want to but then I insisted so she took it. When she got off, she thanked me so many times (in Japanese) that sticked to my mind to this day! They are very ingrained from when they are kids, in school the kids are the ones who have to clean their class, IMAGINE THAT! Sometimes that sense of duty can come at a cost as some feel such pressure when they lose their job, that end up taking their own lives. As they think of they get perceived by peers. So I guess it has perks and cons this whole put society above | |||
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"It's not rocket science, there are nations who respect and care for their nation unlike the British who act like self entitled, selfish, self centred, immature and quite frankly an embarrassment the same can be see in America its so disheartening and unbelievable "This!! Totally agree | |||
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"As someone said to me there are only 2 reasons we have so many deaths.1) the dense population and 2) a dense population,just about sums it up. " This can be said about nations like Australia and NZ that don’t have dense population to the country But Japanese has a big population, same as China and other nations so that reason is INVALID! | |||
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"Japan is one of the healthiest nations on earth with one of the lowest obesity rates. They are also fastidiously clean and hygienic. " And they are an island so easy to control borders and stop travel and spread of the disease.....if only we were surrounded by water....oh hang on ! | |||
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"Reported in the Guardian on tues, and widely reported elsewhere.....Japans total infection count has doubled to 338,000 in 6 weeks and the fatality total is 4650. We’re reporting almost their total case numbers every week and 40% of their fatalities every day? They have a population of 126m and much greater population density and they haven’t closed bars, restaurants or schools..... How are they doing it and why isn’t this all over the news? " That is because Japan has: - an effective track, trace and isolate - effective quarantine for international arrivals - and more importantly, they have a population that is compliant with rules, regulations & guidance - they are also healthy people , and have the oldest population per capita. Currently they have the second highest life expectancy in the world. It’s not all over the news, because the news tends to report when we are doing better than others; and currently we are not doing too well.  | |||
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"Perhaps because they were prepared for a pandemic much like, Taiwan who had only 7 deaths. Taiwan had been preparing for this for nearly 20 years. Meanwhile the west ignored all the warnings. Different culture, different leadership " i think you're spot on there....and with a mortality rate of 1 per 22,000 verses ours of 1 per 820....i think there might just be some level of immunity that we dont have.... | |||
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"Perhaps because they were prepared for a pandemic much like, Taiwan who had only 7 deaths. Taiwan had been preparing for this for nearly 20 years. Meanwhile the west ignored all the warnings. Different culture, different leadership i think you're spot on there....and with a mortality rate of 1 per 22,000 verses ours of 1 per 820....i think there might just be some level of immunity that we dont have.... " It has been suggested their previous exposure to Sars1 may have given them some immunity to Sars 2. | |||
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"Perhaps because they were prepared for a pandemic much like, Taiwan who had only 7 deaths. Taiwan had been preparing for this for nearly 20 years. Meanwhile the west ignored all the warnings. Different culture, different leadership i think you're spot on there....and with a mortality rate of 1 per 22,000 verses ours of 1 per 820....i think there might just be some level of immunity that we dont have.... It has been suggested their previous exposure to Sars1 may have given them some immunity to Sars 2." based upon their current infection data (which granted is rising).....only .03% of the population have caught it.... | |||
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"Japan is one of the healthiest nations on earth with one of the lowest obesity rates. They are also fastidiously clean and hygienic. " yes been there twice. They even wipe down walls of their homes & not unusual to mop their homes twice a day as a habit. Whilst we were there, cleaners would fastidiously wipe elevator buttons, door handles of shopping malls etc. Personal hygiene is de rigour; nobody wears unwashed clothes 2days in a row unless you are a beggar. Totally different levels of cleanliness & culture. | |||
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"Thailand is only it the 70s too" Thais are a very slim race could very well be down to that | |||
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"Another success story is Vietnam with only 39 deaths" what have they got that we haven't i wonder...... if their apparent success was merely a matter of cultural difference and social behaviour, wouldn't you think every other nation would be trying to emulate them? The WHO would be holding them aloft as a shinning example of success, there'd be a set of instructions, a white paper, a set of rules on how to do it, you'd think.... At home, Starmer would be nailing Boris to the benches every day demanding that we do what Japan are doing.....but nothing is ever mentioned, not by our politicians or press, not even a public question during the briefings....doesn't anyone think that's odd? We're told our only hope is vaccination and we can optimistically expect between 95% & 98% immunity for at least 5 months.....they seem to have 99.7% immunity without a vaccine. Rabbit well and truly away in my opinion. | |||
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"Japan is one of the healthiest nations on earth with one of the lowest obesity rates. They are also fastidiously clean and hygienic. " They also follow rules better than the British | |||
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"It comes down to behaviour and respect towards the care and needs of others over themselves and a respect towards authority (elders and not just governance). Our two societies couldn't be further on this scales. "  | |||
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"It comes down to behaviour and respect towards the care and needs of others over themselves and a respect towards authority (elders and not just governance). Our two societies couldn't be further on this scales. " *further apart | |||
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"Another success story is Vietnam with only 39 deaths what have they got that we haven't i wonder...... if their apparent success was merely a matter of cultural difference and social behaviour, wouldn't you think every other nation would be trying to emulate them? The WHO would be holding them aloft as a shinning example of success, there'd be a set of instructions, a white paper, a set of rules on how to do it, you'd think.... At home, Starmer would be nailing Boris to the benches every day demanding that we do what Japan are doing.....but nothing is ever mentioned, not by our politicians or press, not even a public question during the briefings....doesn't anyone think that's odd? We're told our only hope is vaccination and we can optimistically expect between 95% & 98% immunity for at least 5 months.....they seem to have 99.7% immunity without a vaccine. Rabbit well and truly away in my opinion. " I dont know as Jeremy hunt keeps banging on about south Korea and Taiwan...maybe for whatever reason them at the top dont want to bring them into it as it would show how incompetent we acted on the initial lockdown? | |||
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"Another success story is Vietnam with only 39 deaths what have they got that we haven't i wonder...... if their apparent success was merely a matter of cultural difference and social behaviour, wouldn't you think every other nation would be trying to emulate them? The WHO would be holding them aloft as a shinning example of success, there'd be a set of instructions, a white paper, a set of rules on how to do it, you'd think.... At home, Starmer would be nailing Boris to the benches every day demanding that we do what Japan are doing.....but nothing is ever mentioned, not by our politicians or press, not even a public question during the briefings....doesn't anyone think that's odd? We're told our only hope is vaccination and we can optimistically expect between 95% & 98% immunity for at least 5 months.....they seem to have 99.7% immunity without a vaccine. Rabbit well and truly away in my opinion. I dont know as Jeremy hunt keeps banging on about south Korea and Taiwan...maybe for whatever reason them at the top dont want to bring them into it as it would show how incompetent we acted on the initial lockdown?" You cant change people behaviour over night. You can't convince people who think they know better than others to change. Sadly as a society in general we think we know best and even more sadly when it's been proved we don't we still won't learn because of this thinking. We've moved too far in our individualistic approach and selfish behaviour towards others and society to use the responsible approaches in the fight to control and supress the virus which only leaves us one way out and that is for all to be vaccinated as soon as physically possible. This also mean the inevitability that the process will need to be repeated for very different strains or new viruses. Long term it might be the way how some nations and societies grow and others fade. | |||
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"Another success story is Vietnam with only 39 deaths what have they got that we haven't i wonder...... if their apparent success was merely a matter of cultural difference and social behaviour, wouldn't you think every other nation would be trying to emulate them? The WHO would be holding them aloft as a shinning example of success, there'd be a set of instructions, a white paper, a set of rules on how to do it, you'd think.... At home, Starmer would be nailing Boris to the benches every day demanding that we do what Japan are doing.....but nothing is ever mentioned, not by our politicians or press, not even a public question during the briefings....doesn't anyone think that's odd? We're told our only hope is vaccination and we can optimistically expect between 95% & 98% immunity for at least 5 months.....they seem to have 99.7% immunity without a vaccine. Rabbit well and truly away in my opinion. I dont know as Jeremy hunt keeps banging on about south Korea and Taiwan...maybe for whatever reason them at the top dont want to bring them into it as it would show how incompetent we acted on the initial lockdown? You cant change people behaviour over night. You can't convince people who think they know better than others to change. Sadly as a society in general we think we know best and even more sadly when it's been proved we don't we still won't learn because of this thinking. We've moved too far in our individualistic approach and selfish behaviour towards others and society to use the responsible approaches in the fight to control and supress the virus which only leaves us one way out and that is for all to be vaccinated as soon as physically possible. This also mean the inevitability that the process will need to be repeated for very different strains or new viruses. Long term it might be the way how some nations and societies grow and others fade. " 100% agreed with everything you said | |||
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"Right, so if I lose weight say please and thank you everywhere, wear a crappy paper thin mask every time I have to go out and mop my house twice a day, I definitely won't get it. That's a huge relief, thanks fab." please and thank you always goes a long way, manners matter d | |||
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"Right, so if I lose weight say please and thank you everywhere, wear a crappy paper thin mask every time I have to go out and mop my house twice a day, I definitely won't get it. That's a huge relief, thanks fab." Losing weight will definitely help you survive it. Almost all the cases of young "fit and healthy" peole dying are actually dangerously over weight. | |||
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"It's not rocket science, there are nations who respect and care for their nation unlike the British who act like self entitled, selfish, self centred, immature and quite frankly an embarrassment the same can be see in America its so disheartening and unbelievable "Exactly and yet some people will still argue that it's an infringement of their civil liberties to do whatever the fuck they like and fuck anyone who asks them to be more responsible. Japan see it a their civil duty to be responsible. All these people claiming that the government are at fault for the high rates in this country. Yet People still having parties, refusing to wear a mask etc.... I wonder how many Japanese have purchased the exempt lanyard from Amazon for not wearing a mask? Not many I bet | |||
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"Right, so if I lose weight say please and thank you everywhere, wear a crappy paper thin mask every time I have to go out and mop my house twice a day, I definitely won't get it. That's a huge relief, thanks fab. Losing weight will definitely help you survive it. Almost all the cases of young "fit and healthy" peole dying are actually dangerously over weight." It's not the weight that's issue imo, but the damage and strain on the other organs due to the excessive weight and the habits that may be contributing to it, so loosing weight though it will have great benefits, I doubt will reduce the effects of Covid on that person if they were to catch it after loosing the weight. The damage has been done and so those same people most likely will still suffer according. NB* There have been quite a number of very fit people who have died due to Covid, for some it's hilighted that they had some unknown conditions. | |||
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"Total population/No of cases/No of deaths/death rate: Thailand 70,000,000/10,547/67/1-1,000,000 Vietnam 96,000,000/1,514/35/1-2,700,000 Singapore 6,000,000/58,907/29/1-207,000 Malaysia 33,000,000/135,992/551/1-60,000 Japan 126,000,000/386,752/4,644/1-27,000 UK 68,000,000/3,500,000/93,290/1-728 and the plausible reason for the gargantuan difference is good housekeeping and social etiquette ? You don't suspect they might already be immune ? " Don’t forget most of these countries have much warmer climates than the UK | |||
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"Total population/No of cases/No of deaths/death rate: Thailand 70,000,000/10,547/67/1-1,000,000 Vietnam 96,000,000/1,514/35/1-2,700,000 Singapore 6,000,000/58,907/29/1-207,000 Malaysia 33,000,000/135,992/551/1-60,000 Japan 126,000,000/386,752/4,644/1-27,000 UK 68,000,000/3,500,000/93,290/1-728 and the plausible reason for the gargantuan difference is good housekeeping and social etiquette ? You don't suspect they might already be immune ? Don’t forget most of these countries have much warmer climates than the UK" does that make a difference? Its really warm in Brazil too. | |||
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"What is the death rate for Australia and New Zealand please" Aus 1-27,000 NZ 1-200,000 | |||
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"What is the death rate for Australia and New Zealand please Aus 1-27,000 NZ 1-200,000" Thank you | |||
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"Total population/No of cases/No of deaths/death rate: Thailand 70,000,000/10,547/67/1-1,000,000 Vietnam 96,000,000/1,514/35/1-2,700,000 Singapore 6,000,000/58,907/29/1-207,000 Malaysia 33,000,000/135,992/551/1-60,000 Japan 126,000,000/386,752/4,644/1-27,000 UK 68,000,000/3,500,000/93,290/1-728 and the plausible reason for the gargantuan difference is good housekeeping and social etiquette ? You don't suspect they might already be immune ? Don’t forget most of these countries have much warmer climates than the UK" Japan has the same climate as we do actually might even be colder especially the northern parts South east Asia is warmer yes but very humid so not sure if Spits vaporise as easily when it’s humid or it creates a Roman bath effect | |||
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"What is the death rate for Australia and New Zealand please Aus 1-27,000 NZ 1-200,000 Thank you "south Korea 1-45,000 | |||
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"Total population/No of cases/No of deaths/death rate: Thailand 70,000,000/10,547/67/1-1,000,000 Vietnam 96,000,000/1,514/35/1-2,700,000 Singapore 6,000,000/58,907/29/1-207,000 Malaysia 33,000,000/135,992/551/1-60,000 Japan 126,000,000/386,752/4,644/1-27,000 UK 68,000,000/3,500,000/93,290/1-728 and the plausible reason for the gargantuan difference is good housekeeping and social etiquette ? You don't suspect they might already be immune ? Don’t forget most of these countries have much warmer climates than the UK does that make a difference? Its really warm in Brazil too." Not sure about Brazil, I did read somewhere that in Florida, the warmer weather just meant that everyone went inside to avoid the heat in air conditioned buildings. Most South East Asians find air con too cold, and prefer to be in ambient temperature to which they're acclimatised. So the answer could be in how the Brazilians deal with excessive heat. Are they more like Florida or SE Asia. | |||
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"Total population/No of cases/No of deaths/death rate: Thailand 70,000,000/10,547/67/1-1,000,000 Vietnam 96,000,000/1,514/35/1-2,700,000 Singapore 6,000,000/58,907/29/1-207,000 Malaysia 33,000,000/135,992/551/1-60,000 Japan 126,000,000/386,752/4,644/1-27,000 UK 68,000,000/3,500,000/93,290/1-728 and the plausible reason for the gargantuan difference is good housekeeping and social etiquette ? You don't suspect they might already be immune ? Don’t forget most of these countries have much warmer climates than the UK Japan has the same climate as we do actually might even be colder especially the northern parts South east Asia is warmer yes but very humid so not sure if Spits vaporise as easily when it’s humid or it creates a Roman bath effect " Yes Japan similar to UK and colder... The whole society in Japan is different to ours, no physical contact like handshakes, just lots of bowing. I wonder if they closed the pachinko parlours down? I mentioned in another post, it could depend on Air Con use and being indoors more than outside. | |||
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"Total population/No of cases/No of deaths/death rate: Thailand 70,000,000/10,547/67/1-1,000,000 Vietnam 96,000,000/1,514/35/1-2,700,000 Singapore 6,000,000/58,907/29/1-207,000 Malaysia 33,000,000/135,992/551/1-60,000 Japan 126,000,000/386,752/4,644/1-27,000 UK 68,000,000/3,500,000/93,290/1-728 and the plausible reason for the gargantuan difference is good housekeeping and social etiquette ? You don't suspect they might already be immune ? Don’t forget most of these countries have much warmer climates than the UK Japan has the same climate as we do actually might even be colder especially the northern parts South east Asia is warmer yes but very humid so not sure if Spits vaporise as easily when it’s humid or it creates a Roman bath effect Yes Japan similar to UK and colder... The whole society in Japan is different to ours, no physical contact like handshakes, just lots of bowing. I wonder if they closed the pachinko parlours down? I mentioned in another post, it could depend on Air Con use and being indoors more than outside. " I bet they have closed most of those things as well as Onsens I saw in South Korea like some sitting areas inside where aren’t supervised have been closed off | |||
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"It's not rocket science, there are nations who respect and care for their nation unlike the British who act like self entitled, selfish, self centred, immature and quite frankly an embarrassment the same can be see in America its so disheartening and unbelievable
Exactly and yet some people will still argue that it's an infringement of their civil liberties to do whatever the fuck they like and fuck anyone who asks them to be more responsible.
Japan see it a their civil duty to be responsible.
All these people claiming that the government are at fault for the high rates in this country. Yet People still having parties, refusing to wear a mask etc....
I wonder how many Japanese have purchased the exempt lanyard from Amazon for not wearing a mask?
Not many I bet" | |||
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"Total population/No of cases/No of deaths/death rate: Thailand 70,000,000/10,547/67/1-1,000,000 Vietnam 96,000,000/1,514/35/1-2,700,000 Singapore 6,000,000/58,907/29/1-207,000 Malaysia 33,000,000/135,992/551/1-60,000 Japan 126,000,000/386,752/4,644/1-27,000 UK 68,000,000/3,500,000/93,290/1-728 and the plausible reason for the gargantuan difference is good housekeeping and social etiquette ? You don't suspect they might already be immune ? " It’s more to do with the culture & approach taken by the governments and the people within those countries. | |||
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"Japan is one of the healthiest nations on earth with one of the lowest obesity rates. They are also fastidiously clean and hygienic. " They also eat alot of fish Which is high in vit D | |||
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