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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

My parents are both in their eighties and have effectively been housebound for the last nine months.

Now my father has been offered a home visit for the vaccine, but they wont do his wife at the same time because she is under a different doctor.

FFS she will be in the same room while he gets his jab.

CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

Yes it can I'm afraid.

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman
over a year ago

evesham

" My parents are both in their eighties and have effectively been housebound for the last nine months.

Now my father has been offered a home visit for the vaccine, but they wont do his wife at the same time because she is under a different doctor.

FFS she will be in the same room while he gets his jab.

CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT.

Different doctor at the same surgery?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

How could the vaccinator from a different practice access your mum's medical records ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" My parents are both in their eighties and have effectively been housebound for the last nine months.

Now my father has been offered a home visit for the vaccine, but they wont do his wife at the same time because she is under a different doctor.

FFS she will be in the same room while he gets his jab.

CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT.

It's not about how difficult or easy it is, it's about the supplies of the vaccine given to each individual GP practice.

Your mum's vaccine won't be far behind though.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

If their doctors are from the same practice it's madness, if not, unfortunately as daft as it may seem to you, where would they log the information it had been administered etc?

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

How do they manage the logging of vaccinations at the vaccination centres? Couldn't the same procedure apply here?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!"

Me too. My partner's mum is on the extremely clinically vulnerable list, has severe dementia and uses a wheelchair but wasn't offered a home vaccination.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Can they not get access through your nhs number. When you go to hospital,they seem to be able to access your medical history.

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By *iss_tressWoman
over a year ago

London

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

Me too. My partner's mum is on the extremely clinically vulnerable list, has severe dementia and uses a wheelchair but wasn't offered a home vaccination. "

My former practice was in the news last week as it had 80+ year olds queuing around the block for hours on their zimmer frames etc.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

Me too. My partner's mum is on the extremely clinically vulnerable list, has severe dementia and uses a wheelchair but wasn't offered a home vaccination. "

I wonder if it depends on the surgery or nhs trust.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

My husband and I go to different GP practice. Before Covid, I could get an evening appointment at my husband's practice, so they must have access to your records.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

My parents (82 and 86) queued for 25 minutes in the snow then 20 minutes standing inside, then had to climb a flight of stairs for the jab

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By *asques and boxersCouple
over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

Father in law is 91 had his first jab thank god but second one has cancelled.

Vanilla friend age 65 no major underlying chronic illness got the vacinne a week ago? Phoned by his surgery they had left over vaccine?

His wife 63 vaccinated as she works in a surgery understand hers.

Finding this hard to deal with. Pleased they are safe but feel he has jumped the que.

Anyone else know of simular?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"Father in law is 91 had his first jab thank god but second one has cancelled.

Vanilla friend age 65 no major underlying chronic illness got the vacinne a week ago? Phoned by his surgery they had left over vaccine?

His wife 63 vaccinated as she works in a surgery understand hers.

Finding this hard to deal with. Pleased they are safe but feel he has jumped the que.

Anyone else know of simular?"

If it was left over, better to use it than throw it away. Maybe they couldn't get hold of anyone in the over 80's group at that time.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

If it was left over, better to use it than throw it away. "

Exactly. My daughter is 25 and works in a hospital but not frontline. She has been put on a list to be contacted at short notice if there is any left over. I am happy for her to have it. I don't feel she is jumping the queue in front of me.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

If it was left over, better to use it than throw it away.

Agreed Sally. I would think older people can't always get there at short notice, transport etc

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

She has been put on a list to be contacted at short notice if there is any left over.

What a sensible procedure,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"My husband and I go to different GP practice. Before Covid, I could get an evening appointment at my husband's practice, so they must have access to your records."

these surgeries must have some sort of agreement with each other, normally when you register with a new practice you sign paperwork to allow them to take your records from the old practice and it takes a few weeks, most practices just dont have the infrastructure to be able to see all the medical records for everyone in the uk ,

some things like smear tests are kept on a national database that can be logged into from any medical centre so they can be picked up by hospitals/ gum clinic/ gp since people have them done different times places

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Yea, chiseling all that complicated stuff onto a sandstone tablet does take time, and where are the camels when you need one for a quick delivery,

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"My husband and I go to different GP practice. Before Covid, I could get an evening appointment at my husband's practice, so they must have access to your records.

Yes, that could well be the case

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yea, chiseling all that complicated stuff onto a sandstone tablet does take time, and where are the camels when you need one for a quick delivery, "

i’m not sure if this is sarcasm or not but you realise that data, even electronic, needs to be stored (safely) and that costs money and requires space and the appropriate operating level of equipment to access it... im not talking about rooms and rooms of everyones paper records , i am meaning IT infrastructure

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

" My parents are both in their eighties and have effectively been housebound for the last nine months.

Now my father has been offered a home visit for the vaccine, but they wont do his wife at the same time because she is under a different doctor.

FFS she will be in the same room while he gets his jab.

CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT.

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Thats life in a country that has been under the influence of the EU for so long.It is crazy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How do they manage the logging of vaccinations at the vaccination centres? Couldn't the same procedure apply here?"

This is what I was thiking plus there are plenty of people that have said on the forums they have gone to take a relative to get a vaccine and been offered it themselves because they've got spares so there must be a way.

I do understand why the OP is frustrated because it does seem madness if there in the same house and they are both in the same priority.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Father in law is 91 had his first jab thank god but second one has cancelled.

Vanilla friend age 65 no major underlying chronic illness got the vacinne a week ago? Phoned by his surgery they had left over vaccine?

His wife 63 vaccinated as she works in a surgery understand hers.

Finding this hard to deal with. Pleased they are safe but feel he has jumped the que.

Anyone else know of simular?"

Yes there are lots of stories like that and I get the frustration.

The over 65's are 5th on the list so whilst I do understand again it's upsetting if you know people that are higher up the list that happen had it, But this person is still in the high priority group.

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire

" My parents are both in their eighties and have effectively been housebound for the last nine months.

Now my father has been offered a home visit for the vaccine, but they wont do his wife at the same time because she is under a different doctor.

FFS she will be in the same room while he gets his jab.

CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT.

Maybe the vaccines are a different formula. Are your parents the sane age? Or is there a large age gap?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes it can I'm afraid.

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!"

I'm not actually because I have had home visits by doctor during the pandemic. It was at the end of March last year though.

I live in Southampton the same as the OP and home visits do not seem to be as hard to come by here as they do in other parts of the country. Ash was amazed that the doctor did a home visit as he said it is only in extreme circumstances where he lives in London. I add I was quite poorly at the time and it was urgent treatment.

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire

"How could the vaccinator from a different practice access your mum's medical records ?"

Very good point to make

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" My parents are both in their eighties and have effectively been housebound for the last nine months.

Now my father has been offered a home visit for the vaccine, but they wont do his wife at the same time because she is under a different doctor.

FFS she will be in the same room while he gets his jab.

CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT.

Thats life in a country that has been under the influence of the EU for so long.It is crazy"

Now that's mad even by your standards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Father in law is 91 had his first jab thank god but second one has cancelled.

Vanilla friend age 65 no major underlying chronic illness got the vacinne a week ago? Phoned by his surgery they had left over vaccine?

His wife 63 vaccinated as she works in a surgery understand hers.

Finding this hard to deal with. Pleased they are safe but feel he has jumped the que.

Anyone else know of simular?

Yes there are lots of stories like that and I get the frustration.

exactly , the line has to be drawn and its drawn by groups of need or age at present, otherwise we have situation where there are 3 generations living in the house, might aswel just jab everyone while we are in doing granny

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"How do they manage the logging of vaccinations at the vaccination centres? Couldn't the same procedure apply here?

I do understand why the OP is frustrated because it does seem madness if there in the same house and they are both in the same priority."

Also when I get my flu vaccination at a pharmacy they tell me they'll let my surgery know. Boots and Asda do the same.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Yes it can I'm afraid.

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

I'm not actually because I have had home visits by doctor during the pandemic. It was at the end of March last year though.

They wouldn't come out to my mum, we had to call 111.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes it can I'm afraid.

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

I'm not actually because I have had home visits by doctor during the pandemic. It was at the end of March last year though.

They wouldn't come out to my mum, we had to call 111. "

Unfortunately it does seem to depend on where you live.

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"Yes it can I'm afraid.

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

I'm not actually because I have had home visits by doctor during the pandemic. It was at the end of March last year though.

They wouldn't come out to my mum, we had to call 111.

Unfortunately it does seem to depend on where you live."

It does. I've had to be extremely insistent to get home visits for her on the past, bear in mind that she broke her back, had a head injury and bleed on the brain and several strokes and is unable to walk more than a few steps. We don't bother anymore and call 111 or 999

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" My parents are both in their eighties and have effectively been housebound for the last nine months.

Now my father has been offered a home visit for the vaccine, but they wont do his wife at the same time because she is under a different doctor.

FFS she will be in the same room while he gets his jab.

CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT.

what a Joke.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

It’s based on lots of things, sharing agreements between practices being the main one (in place for out of hours but not during the day), stock, availability.

I promise it isn’t that simple unfortunately if they are with different practices, same practice shouldn’t be an issue though (if different doctor)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd say it depends on your area my mum had hers last week when she rang to arrange appointment she asked if my dad could have his whilst he's there as he was taking her yes no probs and are under different doctors.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It’s based on lots of things, sharing agreements between practices being the main one (in place for out of hours but not during the day), stock, availability.

I promise it isn’t that simple unfortunately if they are with different practices, same practice shouldn’t be an issue though (if different doctor)

It really is that simple.in bold, underlined with exclamation marks.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"It’s based on lots of things, sharing agreements between practices being the main one (in place for out of hours but not during the day), stock, availability.

I promise it isn’t that simple unfortunately if they are with different practices, same practice shouldn’t be an issue though (if different doctor)

It really is that simple.in bold, underlined with exclamation marks.

It really isn’t

if there’s no sharing agreements in place how would it be recorded?

Underlined and in bold with lots of explanation marks back to you

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Ps people in forums don’t have to agree... being abusive and uneducated just makes yourself look silly not me.

Full grown men gobbing off on the internet... nice "

thank you nurse Ratchet

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

"How could the vaccinator from a different practice access your mum's medical records ?"

NHS records are accessible across the NHS

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

I've deleted posts.

If you quote a post that clearly breaks site rules it will also be deleted.

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

Oh it all seems crazy doesn't it. Talk about making things complicated. As usual there is too much red tape. Cut down on that and the vaccination programme could be done in a fraction of the time.

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By *asques and boxersCouple
over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

"Father in law is 91 had his first jab thank god but second one has cancelled.

Vanilla friend age 65 no major underlying chronic illness got the vacinne a week ago? Phoned by his surgery they had left over vaccine?

His wife 63 vaccinated as she works in a surgery understand hers.

Finding this hard to deal with. Pleased they are safe but feel he has jumped the que.

Anyone else know of simular?

If it was left over, better to use it than throw it away. Maybe they couldn't get hold of anyone in the over 80's group at that time."

I understand the non waste and agree with it, still doubt that a under 80 or front line worker or 70 plus or someone with a chronic illness could not have been found. Knowing that the person has no such issues but hey ho continue to wait and hope its fair.

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By *elnkazCouple
over a year ago

cheshire

Afraid it can that difficult it is down to each surgery or council how they do it.

How has your dad managed a homevisit for it? Be interesting to find out as no one is to have home visits for covid vaccs .that has been said by public health and nhs .k

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By *asques and boxersCouple
over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

He attended the vaccine point at his practises surgery why?

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By *asques and boxersCouple
over a year ago

Ashford and dept16

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm vaccinator.. we are limited and only covered to do our own patients in community unless specialist teams are set up. We cannot access other gp records.

Today I went to a person a in bungalow community set. I wished I could gave done all bungalows.. didnt seem fair.

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

Homeless, therefore automatically doctorless. When I asked NHS, they said your doctor will contact you.... FFS!

But to be honest OP this doesn't surprise me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Homeless, therefore automatically doctorless. When I asked NHS, they said your doctor will contact you.... FFS!

But to be honest OP this doesn't surprise me."

Do they don't have a homeless health care team in your region because I would contact them.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"Afraid it can that difficult it is down to each surgery or council how they do it.

How has your dad managed a homevisit for it? Be interesting to find out as no one is to have home visits for covid vaccs .that has been said by public health and nhs .k"

Some areas have done home visits, how else do housebound people get their jabs? These are people who will likely have carers go in daily, so are still at risk from them.

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman
over a year ago

lancashire

" My parents are both in their eighties and have effectively been housebound for the last nine months.

Now my father has been offered a home visit for the vaccine, but they wont do his wife at the same time because she is under a different doctor.

FFS she will be in the same room while he gets his jab.

CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT.

FFS ey...some times I do wonder how just how things do get done

When I phone my doctors a answer phone message says that another Doctors surgery could phone you to arrange the jab...surely they could arrange this by some communication

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"Can they not get access through your nhs number. When you go to hospital,they seem to be able to access your medical history."

I got my flu jab at my local pharmacy and he was able to get access to my medical records.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"Can they not get access through your nhs number. When you go to hospital,they seem to be able to access your medical history.

I got my flu jab at my local pharmacy and he was able to get access to my medical records.

Yes same here

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

"Yes it can I'm afraid.

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

I'm not actually because I have had home visits by doctor during the pandemic. It was at the end of March last year though.

I live in Southampton and I struggle to get an appt at the surgery let alone a home visit even before the pandemic!

I'm currently trying to get an appt as I have a lump in my breast and it's like pulling teeth

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By *ooo wet tight hornyWoman
over a year ago

lancashire

"Yes it can I'm afraid.

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

I'm not actually because I have had home visits by doctor during the pandemic. It was at the end of March last year though.

I live in Southampton and I struggle to get an appt at the surgery let alone a home visit even before the pandemic!

I'm currently trying to get an appt as I have a lump in my breast and it's like pulling teeth"

Ohh no I hope you soon get an appointment and the lump is checked and it's nothing serious, you must be really worried

Big hugs to you!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes it can I'm afraid.

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

I'm not actually because I have had home visits by doctor during the pandemic. It was at the end of March last year though.

I live in Southampton and I struggle to get an appt at the surgery let alone a home visit even before the pandemic!

I'm currently trying to get an appt as I have a lump in my breast and it's like pulling teeth"

I'm sorry lovely.

I hope it is nothing to worry about but I truly hope you can get it looked at soon.

Unfortunately persistence is often needed. X

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"Yes it can I'm afraid.

I'm amazed your dad's getting a home visit!

I'm not actually because I have had home visits by doctor during the pandemic. It was at the end of March last year though.

I live in Southampton and I struggle to get an appt at the surgery let alone a home visit even before the pandemic!

I'm currently trying to get an appt as I have a lump in my breast and it's like pulling teeth"

Oh bless you, they should be seeing you..I hope all is ok xx

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Our surgery is brilliant. Contacted them last Wednesday, for my husband,he had a chest xray the next morning and they phoned with results this morning

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

"Father in law is 91 had his first jab thank god but second one has cancelled.

Vanilla friend age 65 no major underlying chronic illness got the vacinne a week ago? Phoned by his surgery they had left over vaccine?

His wife 63 vaccinated as she works in a surgery understand hers.

Finding this hard to deal with. Pleased they are safe but feel he has jumped the que.

Anyone else know of simular?

If it was left over, better to use it than throw it away. Maybe they couldn't get hold of anyone in the over 80's group at that time."

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By *unloversCouple
over a year ago

rotherham

"Father in law is 91 had his first jab thank god but second one has cancelled.

Vanilla friend age 65 no major underlying chronic illness got the vacinne a week ago? Phoned by his surgery they had left over vaccine?

His wife 63 vaccinated as she works in a surgery understand hers.

Finding this hard to deal with. Pleased they are safe but feel he has jumped the que.

Anyone else know of simular?

Yes there are lots of stories like that and I get the frustration.

Where is the list

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"Father in law is 91 had his first jab thank god but second one has cancelled.

Vanilla friend age 65 no major underlying chronic illness got the vacinne a week ago? Phoned by his surgery they had left over vaccine?

His wife 63 vaccinated as she works in a surgery understand hers.

Finding this hard to deal with. Pleased they are safe but feel he has jumped the que.

Anyone else know of simular?

Yes there are lots of stories like that and I get the frustration.

Where is the list"

Gov.UK or on your GP practice site x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" My parents are both in their eighties and have effectively been housebound for the last nine months.

Now my father has been offered a home visit for the vaccine, but they wont do his wife at the same time because she is under a different doctor.

FFS she will be in the same room while he gets his jab.

CAN IT BE THAT DIFFICULT.

It demonstrates what's inerrantly and fundamentally wrong with most of our systems of management here in the west. Most of our problems are not solved by our managers but rather delayed and enlarged. Yet we seem to feel the need of huge reliance upon them.

It becomes a chicken an egg situation when we then fall in line by indecision and the need to be told what, when and how to do something without the ability to reason, make good decisions and take personal responsibility.

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