FabSwingers.com forum: The osterholme update

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Dr Michael osterholme, leading scientist on the planet in his field of work, over 45 years experience and his credentials speak for themselves, so when he's live on a US news programme 2 days ago and says

" I'm really scared" about this new variant strain, I think it's time to start really worrying

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

Which new one, there are quite a few ?

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Which new one, there are quite a few ? "

https://youtu.be/HhQhdtH9lbA

If I understand him correctly, he's saying most counties have their own variant, I could be wrong, have a listen

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"Which new one, there are quite a few ?

https://youtu.be/HhQhdtH9lbA

If I understand him correctly, he's saying most counties have their own variant, I could be wrong, have a listen

Thanks, will do

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It's a good resource. I haven't listened to it yet

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

Hes always right. We should have started worrying when the new uk strain was detected

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Dr Michael osterholme, leading scientist on the planet in his field of work, over 45 years experience and his credentials speak for themselves, so when he's live on a US news programme 2 days ago and says

" I'm really scared" about this new variant strain, I think it's time to start really worrying

"
Sounds like a fab pessemist.If so highly qualified he should know that really scared is emotion not scientific so ignore

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I'm really scared" about this new variant strain, I think it's time to start really worrying

Sounds like a fab pessemist.If so highly qualified he should know that really scared is emotion not scientific so ignore"
this

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

" I'm really scared" about this new variant strain, I think it's time to start really worrying

Sounds like a fab pessemist.If so highly qualified he should know that really scared is emotion not scientific so ignore"

Sounds like you should Google him.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I'm really scared" about this new variant strain, I think it's time to start really worrying

I've got to admit it's all very esoteric this subject matter, infectious diseases, but Dr Osterholm really lays it all out in matter of fact way.

Its definitely well worth people listening to his appearance on the Joe Rogan show back in March 2019 because he has proved to be pretty accurate.

Good listen and good old YouTube.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" I'm really scared" about this new variant strain, I think it's time to start really worrying

I've got to admit it's all very esoteric this subject matter, infectious diseases, but Dr Osterholm really lays it all out in matter of fact way.

Its definitely well worth people listening to his appearance on the Joe Rogan show back in March 2019 because he has proved to be pretty accurate.

Good listen and good old YouTube.

Iv listened to that episode loads of times, it's unfolding as he said

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

" I'm really scared" about this new variant strain, I think it's time to start really worrying

Sounds like a fab pessemist.If so highly qualified he should know that really scared is emotion not scientific so ignore"

Ignore him? He doesn't sugar coat things, he's saying he's scared because he is scared!!

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I'm really scared" about this new variant strain, I think it's time to start really worrying

Sounds like a fab pessemist.If so highly qualified he should know that really scared is emotion not scientific so ignore

Ignore him? He doesn't sugar coat things, he's saying he's scared because he is scared!! "

Yes I remember him saying this wasn't going to be a coronavirus blizzard but a coronavirus winter,

Deadliest Enemy book on order.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 14/01/21 20:40:35]

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hes always right. We should have started worrying when the new uk strain was detected"

Given what he said about coronavirus' in his 2017 book I agree.

I also think he is right when he says the UK doesn't have enough evidence yet to really say one way or other that the UK variant isnt more deadly / has more prevalent symptoms. All the can say at this stage is its more infectious. Study is needed to see if it spreads a bigger viral load that in turn can effect how bad somebody get it. I think our goverment jumped the gun by saying it's no more harmful to avoid panic tbh.

He also highlights early data suggests the South African variant is more severe / deadly.

His line the only thing that can stop a particular variant taking hold is another more effective variant.

A few times when asked to get across his views in layman terms he said he is scared and frightened. Also that the emergence of fast moving variants could be a game changer that leads history to judge covid19 as the big one (much like the Spanish flu event.

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's natural that widespread prevalence, especially when isolated, will help to support local variants.

The greater the volume of people infected, the higher the levels of mutations that will occur. As international travel declines, these variants will compete locally, with dominant strains overtaking the others. Opening travel will get them circulating around the world.

There's a need for identification of the variants everywhere and to test vaccines efficacy against them. We're OK until any of them aren't covered by the vaccines.

I don't get my info from anywhere but credible published research and professional journals. There's just too much noise around that isn't helpful

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"It's natural that widespread prevalence, especially when isolated, will help to support local variants.

There's a need for identification of the variants everywhere and to test vaccines efficacy against them. We're OK until any of them aren't covered by the vaccines.

I don't get my info from anywhere but credible published research and professional journals. There's just too much noise around that isn't helpful "

I agree, I just listen to Osterholmes podcast and interviews he gives

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's natural that widespread prevalence, especially when isolated, will help to support local variants.

There's a need for identification of the variants everywhere and to test vaccines efficacy against them. We're OK until any of them aren't covered by the vaccines.

I don't get my info from anywhere but credible published research and professional journals. There's just too much noise around that isn't helpful

I agree, I just listen to Osterholmes podcast and interviews he gives"

I listened last night and he has the credentials....and seems to know what's he's talking about.

Pandemic Amnesia seems fitting

Reply privately

Reply in forum

Reply +quote

Post new Message to Thread