FabSwingers.com forum: People vs. The rules

By *ntelligent Gent. OP Man
over a year ago

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Given the data suggests most are complying. Why are we so obssessed with blaming people with our anecdotes rather than the looser rules in a worse situation than last spring? (e.g. Definition of key workers)

We cannot enforce our way out of this through fines

Does it make us feel better?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd say it's mostly because feel helpless in being able to do anything about it. No control over it nor over those who flaunt the rules. Loopholers, spend their time to navigate the rules and think it's smart. The spirit of the message is lost.

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By *ntelligent Gent. OP Man
over a year ago

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Well said

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By *inkerbell67Woman
over a year ago

Clacton on sea essex

The police are going to fine people ,but were are the police lol never see them were i live all throu the summer when the beach was busy not one was seen and still not seen in the town now ,,are they all hidding ...

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By *irtylittletramp100TV/TS
over a year ago

Notts

There's a hundred people in queue and someone walks to front, its only one, come on, what's the problem?

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"The police are going to fine people ,but were are the police lol never see them were i live all throu the summer when the beach was busy not one was seen and still not seen in the town now ,,are they all hidding ...

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they are being quite heavy handed near me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Given the data suggests most are complying. Why are we so obssessed with blaming people with our anecdotes rather than the looser rules in a worse situation than last spring? (e.g. Definition of key workers)

We cannot enforce our way out of this through fines

Does it make us feel better?"

“given the data suggests”

what data? how is it collected? do we expect it i accurately recording rule breaking since that doesn’t really seem like something people will voluntarily report about themselves?

i think people are “obsessed with anecdotes” because its what they are seeing with their own eyes happening all around them and the “data” just doesn’t seem to match their personal experience

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be thankful that you don't see them

. They are busy and very busy, they've been given additional roles and much like the care/nhs they are down with many off or isolating. It's not as if they can call the job center and suddenly find extra staff to fill in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I genuinely feel we live in a blame culture and actually I think you are right and the vast majority of people are sticking to guidelines and rules But we get caught up on those that don't

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

It's always easier and more convenient to have scapegoats than to confront uncomfortable truths or to look for difficult answers to complex questions.

Also governments love scapegoats as it deflects blame from them and provides easy excuses.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"It's always easier and more convenient to have scapegoats than to confront uncomfortable truths or to look for difficult answers to complex questions.

Also governments love scapegoats as it deflects blame from them and provides easy excuses."

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By *icecouple561Couple
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over a year ago

East Sussex

"It's always easier and more convenient to have scapegoats than to confront uncomfortable truths or to look for difficult answers to complex questions.

Also governments love scapegoats as it deflects blame from them and provides easy excuses."

Yes and how easily people have fallen into it.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"It's always easier and more convenient to have scapegoats than to confront uncomfortable truths or to look for difficult answers to complex questions.

Also governments love scapegoats as it deflects blame from them and provides easy excuses.

Yes and how easily people have fallen into it. "

Easily done and works a treat.

Single out a group and blame all your problems on them(scroungers, benefit cheats,immigrants)

People fall for it every time.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's partly the result of long-term suppressed emotions and frustration, projected on to others.

Some haven't engaged their generosity of spirit to others, perhaps obsessing as they have too little that they choose to occupy their minds with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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now money is involved they will be out

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By *all and HandsomeMan
over a year ago

Lewes

Because people tend to rally around governments in times of crisis, well recorded in political history. So when things still aren't fixed, then it's easier to blame the public, even when, as you say, the available data suggests the public are obeying the rules mostly, albeit less than in the first lockdown perhaps (though lockdown fatigue is exactly what the gov was expecting so that isn't suprising).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Be thankful that you don't see them

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

Well if people are following the rules they won't get fined, so what's the problem?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"It's always easier and more convenient to have scapegoats than to confront uncomfortable truths or to look for difficult answers to complex questions.

Also governments love scapegoats as it deflects blame from them and provides easy excuses."

Agreed

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By *ate_BMan
over a year ago

London

I feel herd immunity is in effect, I'm sure of it and I get the feeling government is giving in to the idea especially with the vaccine going around. Lockdown in name only, that's my feeling. I'll travel for essential reasons in the mean time

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By *irldnCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

All this noise is to achieve 2 things:

1. Scare people who are sceptical into having the vaccine when offered.

2. Distract everyone from what else is going on using the cover of the pandemic. That includes the erosion of our democracy (extending executive power at expense of legislature and judiciary) and the wholesale theft of national assets (ie awarding spurious unscrutinised contracts to cronies etc)

P.S. Not for one minute saying pandemic isn’t horrifically real but we have a govt of crooked opportunists who cannot believe their luck!

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By *uliaChrisCouple
over a year ago

westerham

We can't defeat the virus through enforcement but at the same time it only takes one selfish idiot in Tesco to infect a lot of people.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"All this noise is to achieve 2 things:

1. Scare people who are sceptical into having the vaccine when offered.

P.S. Not for one minute saying pandemic isn’t horrifically real but we have a govt of crooked opportunists who cannot believe their luck!"

I agree with number two.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I feel herd immunity is in effect, I'm sure of it and I get the feeling government is giving in to the idea especially with the vaccine going around. Lockdown in name only, that's my feeling. I'll travel for essential reasons in the mean time

Latest "scientific" research sugests actual new infections running at 250 000+ perday. At this rate ( c 2 million a week) 10% of population every 3 weeks then by the end of feb 14 million will be vaccinated (target) and 12 million will have been infected (plus god knows how many million infected previously? ).

If that isn't herd immunity then I dont know what is....?

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

We cannot enforce our way out of this through fines

Does it make us feel better?"

People have too much time on their hands not being able to go about daily life

It seems (on here and social media especially) slating other people is the new lockdown hobby!

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By *luns1Man
over a year ago

Preston

"There's a hundred people in queue and someone walks to front, its only one, come on, what's the problem?

The problem with that is the one then gives courage to the next person so that 1 becomes 2, then 3 and so on. So on that basis if there was 1 person with the virus you would be happy for that person to be in general population as it is only 1 after all

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