FabSwingers.com forum: Morrisons to ban shoppers who arent wearing masks

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Isn't entirely true. They have asked people to wear exemption badges or Langyards or to wear a mask.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

BBC News - Coronavirus: Morrisons to ban shoppers who refuse to wear face masks

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55618408

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Face coverings or masks?. Can you wear a scarf to cover mouth and nose?.

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By *ightmyfireMan
over a year ago

beccles

I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Face coverings or masks?. Can you wear a scarf to cover mouth and nose?."

Apologies, face coverings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out "

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out "

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting. "

If they are exempt then that is a different matter.

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By *ightmyfireMan
over a year ago

beccles

Cant wear one due to a mental illness? Surely most if not everyone can manage to wear a face covering while shopping?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough."

So you want to ban disabled people do you. Also If you had read the article properly You would know they are not banning people for not wearing a mask. They are asking people to be kind and except that some people are medical exempt and these people are still welcome in store it is those that are refusing to wear a mask that will no longer be welcome.

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By *ensual 2Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

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Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Cant wear one due to a mental illness? Surely most if not everyone can manage to wear a face covering while shopping?"

You really don't have a clue do you! Why do you think there exemptions in place?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less"

Exactly and most people don't wear them properly anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The people who flatly refuse to wear them, and have no reason why, should follow the rule. It's private property after all. I see people refuse them and abuse the staff member who is tasked with handing them out if people have forgotten one, and it's not fair in the staff member.

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By *ightmyfireMan
over a year ago

beccles

No i don't really have a clue but tell me groups of people that really cant wear face masks..actual reasons not excuses

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No i don't really have a clue but tell me groups of people that really cant wear face masks..actual reasons not excuses"

I have already given those people and may are not excuses and you should maybe learned some tolerance and understanding.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less"

if someone sneezed in my direction i'd rather they were wearing a covering!

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"No i don't really have a clue but tell me groups of people that really cant wear face masks..actual reasons not excuses"

If your lucky enough to not have to worry about it at least have the empathy to understand other people’s struggles

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less

if someone sneezed in my direction i'd rather they were wearing a covering!"

If you were more than 2 meters away wouldn't be a problem anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less

if someone sneezed in my direction i'd rather they were wearing a covering!"

COVID or not, to be fair.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game"

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less

if someone sneezed in my direction i'd rather they were wearing a covering!

COVID or not, to be fair."

yes true

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By *amillMan
over a year ago

Warrington

The whole mask enforcement would be so much easier in general if people who are genuinely exempt are able to use a standardised way to show this in a discrete way to store staff. A little flash card or badge as to not invade on people’s privacy and antagonise people with actual exemptions.

I know for a fact when I go round shops there are definitely those who aren’t exempt but will use that as an excuse to not follow the rules.

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By *ightmyfireMan
over a year ago

beccles

"No i don't really have a clue but tell me groups of people that really cant wear face masks..actual reasons not excuses

I have already given those people and may are not excuses and you should maybe learned some tolerance and understanding."

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By *heelsmanMan
over a year ago

Staines

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less"

Please can you add your Medical, scientific or social media credentials re. your statement

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

My brother has cerebral palsy, profound learning disabilities He is also ( I hate this term ) a spastic quadriplegic and has bladder cancer on and off for the last 7 years. He is in the vulnerable group high risk group. He can wear a mask, but as he dis t understand why and disnt like wearing it he will scream if off if manage to move his head around untill it comes down. So from what your saying he should be confined to just his flat and should of been since the first lockdown. To me the fact that those who are able to wear masks but don't is part the reason he hasn't been out apart from walks since then. Not all black and white.

* He happens to be the happiest person you could ever wish to meet.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The whole mask enforcement would be so much easier in general if people who are genuinely exempt are able to use a standardised way to show this in a discrete way to store staff. A little flash card or badge as to not invade on people’s privacy and antagonise people with actual exemptions.

I know for a fact when I go round shops there are definitely those who aren’t exempt but will use that as an excuse to not follow the rules."

That is available and the majority of people that are genuinely exempt do carry them. Shop staff are normally exceptionally understanding its members of the public that can be aggressive, intolerant and abusive.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Yes if true I will drive further to there stores

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By *ensual 2Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined."
Work in retail and have been baffled by all this...wont be long before we have to wear a face covering out in public ..da law

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"No i don't really have a clue but tell me groups of people that really cant wear face masks..actual reasons not excuses"

The government has provided a list, helpfully.

I fail to see how the list, which is largely disabilities or medical conditions, is anything other than reasons.

Those with disabilities and illnesses are as entitled to an independent life as you are.

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

I think personally that because their are loads of people who suffer from asthma and allergies should have a type of card which they must carry to state reason for not having to wear a mask because loads of people are trying to use the excuses I can't breathe properly with a mask and these cards must have little personal information about the individual and be shown whether traveling public transport or entering businesses or even place of work so on

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out "

And how do you live?

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By *ihimbiherCouple
over a year ago

lightwater

Yes ban them!!!!!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"I think personally that because their are loads of people who suffer from asthma and allergies should have a type of card which they must carry to state reason for not having to wear a mask because loads of people are trying to use the excuses I can't breathe properly with a mask and these cards must have little personal information about the individual and be shown whether traveling public transport or entering businesses or even place of work so on "

So because some people take the piss, others need to disclose private medical information?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less

Please can you add your Medical, scientific or social media credentials re. your statement "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No i don't really have a clue but tell me groups of people that really cant wear face masks..actual reasons not excuses

The government has provided a list, helpfully.

I fail to see how the list, which is largely disabilities or medical conditions, is anything other than reasons.

Those with disabilities and illnesses are as entitled to an independent life as you are."

No apparently not.

We are selfish individuals who should lock ourselves away! Attitudes like many iv seen on here actually make me cry.

Its horrific being in a situation where you are constantly being judged by people who really don't have a clue about the impact they have on people.

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

Personally I applaud and would favour any supermarket that enforces wearing masks .. and avoid those that don’t! I feel genuinely unsafe on an indoor environment with people not wearing masks. They have a duty of care to ensure the safety of their customers - and should take this more seriously.

I know of one supermarket that offered face visors to those who chose not to wear a mask or said they couldn’t ... which is not unreasonable ... it was perhaps not unsurprising that many opted for the mask then, not wanting to wear a visor!! ... funny old thing!

I accept there is a minority who can’t wear a mask for medical reasons, some for respiratory issues, who as others have alluded to should most definitely be shielding, and a smaller minority who have psychological issues ... however there is a significant number of Covidiots who can’t be bothered to, or simply don’t want to .. which makes it hard to know the genuine ones.

Personal choice - but I will shop in those shops that meet my needs and take my safety seriously!

R xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes ban them!!!!!!"

People are not being banned for not wearing a mask. Please read the article.

BBC News - Coronavirus: Morrisons to ban shoppers who refuse to wear face masks

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55618408

People who can’t wear one are still very welcome.

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By *edyarisCouple
over a year ago

Middlesbrough or Ullswater

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out "

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"Personally I applaud and would favour any supermarket that enforces wearing masks .. and avoid those that don’t! I feel genuinely unsafe on an indoor environment with people not wearing masks. They have a duty of care to ensure the safety of their customers - and should take this more seriously.

Personal choice - but I will shop in those shops that meet my needs and take my safety seriously!

R xx"

There’s a lot of people who speed but we don’t all get banned from driving.

Your always going to get idiots as you do in every situation.

Really struggling to understand how people think discrimination is acceptable in ten UK in 2021. The mind boggles.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined."

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out "

There are people who don't have to wear a mask who do not have to be permanently confined to home, hospital etc.

There's a big problem still within larger groups shopping together. If they live together and are all infected, they will leave huge levels of virus they've shed, wherever they go.

I'm more bothered by groups shopping together than imposing stress on those who need to shop and don't have to or can't wear a covering

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.Work in retail and have been baffled by all this...wont be long before we have to wear a face covering out in public ..da law"

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less"

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By *ubby and naughty wifeCouple
over a year ago

kingswinford.

"Face coverings or masks?. Can you wear a scarf to cover mouth and nose?."

Wifey suffers with asthma and she’s been told by doctors she’s exempt so she wears her scarf round her mouth and nose out of respect for other shoppers. Her doctor reckons it’s acceptable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

Oh dear!

We really need a facepalm emoji.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

There are people who don't have to wear a mask who do not have to be permanently confined to home, hospital etc.

There's a big problem still within larger groups shopping together. If they live together and are all infected, they will leave huge levels of virus they've shed, wherever they go.

I'm more bothered by groups shopping together than imposing stress on those who need to shop and don't have to or can't wear a covering "

Exactly.

Some see it as a family outing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?"

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

Oh dear!

We really need a facepalm emoji."

Need the angry and shocked response like Facebook too!

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By *s2in22Couple
over a year ago

solihull

Go to Spain and try walking through town without a face covering never mind shopping.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

Oh dear!

We really need a facepalm emoji."

Apparently they should sit at home and starve to death

Standard

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in. "

How do you show your exempt when doctors aren’t providing letters due to how busy they are?

(Before even being involved with delivering the vaccine)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in. "

Don't need to show you are exempt it says that very clearly on the government website. Morrisons have made it very clear that anybody that is exempt is very welcome it is people that refuse to wear one but not have an exemption that will be refused entry and they have not sad but by will refuse anybody entry who says they are exempt.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in. "

How would you show you're exempt?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in.

How do you show your exempt when doctors aren’t providing letters due to how busy they are?

(Before even being involved with delivering the vaccine)

Plus the government have said no proof is needed.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I have the letter that proves my exemption. But I'm not showing that to anyone just because they demand it. It's my private medical information.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in.

How would you show you're exempt?"

I've seen ones you print of the computer. So dosnt hold much clout if anyway can get one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Go to Spain and try walking through town without a face covering never mind shopping."

I did.

My sister did and showed her exemption card and the police couldn't have been nicer.shop staff were lovely and very helpful, she had no problems at all.

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By *uietcouplexxxCouple
over a year ago

near u

Totally Agree No Mask or Exemption card no entry.

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

There’s a lot of people who speed but we don’t all get banned from driving.

Your always going to get idiots as you do in every situation.

Really struggling to understand how people think discrimination is acceptable in ten UK in 2021. The mind boggles. "

Speeding is dangerous accepted ... but last time I looked it wasn’t killing 1,000 a day ..this is!

I am genuinely in agreement with the rights of the individual and do not like discrimination, but we are all having to make sacrifice and compromise here!!

R xx

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"I have the letter that proves my exemption. But I'm not showing that to anyone just because they demand it. It's my private medical information."

Quite right

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

There’s a lot of people who speed but we don’t all get banned from driving.

Your always going to get idiots as you do in every situation.

Really struggling to understand how people think discrimination is acceptable in ten UK in 2021. The mind boggles.

Speeding is dangerous accepted ... but last time I looked it wasn’t killing 1,000 a day ..this is!

I am genuinely in agreement with the rights of the individual and do not like discrimination, but we are all having to make sacrifice and compromise here!!

R xx"

I highly doubt it's a small proportion of people with relevant conditions getting bread and milk causing this crisis.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in.

How do you show your exempt when doctors aren’t providing letters due to how busy they are?

(Before even being involved with delivering the vaccine)

Plus the government have said no proof is needed. "

No I know and no one should ever have too!

Absolute joke to expect people to have to discuss with a random person who isn’t even medically trained!

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in.

How would you show you're exempt?

I've seen ones you print of the computer. So dosnt hold much clout if anyway can get one. "

Exactly

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By *s2in22Couple
over a year ago

solihull

As I tried to state you will be asked to prove exemption.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I really Dont understand the issue because I would say at least 95% of people when I am out and about (which isn't often, iv left the house twice since 23ed December) are wearing a mask or face covering.

Just leave the 5% alone and assume they are exempt and be kind.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting. "

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

There’s a lot of people who speed but we don’t all get banned from driving.

Your always going to get idiots as you do in every situation.

Really struggling to understand how people think discrimination is acceptable in ten UK in 2021. The mind boggles.

Speeding is dangerous accepted ... but last time I looked it wasn’t killing 1,000 a day ..this is!

I am genuinely in agreement with the rights of the individual and do not like discrimination, but we are all having to make sacrifice and compromise here!!

R xx"

Everyone is making compromises already but you wouldn’t expect a wheelchair bound person to walk into the supermarket to “compromise”.

If someone physically or mentally cannot compromise for a valid reason why is it ok to discriminate against them?

Bubbles, outdoor exercise, mask wearing- everyone’s already compromising. X

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over a year ago

"As I tried to state you will be asked to prove exemption."

No you won't be. This has been made very clear by Morrisons and the government.

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By *ensual 2Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in.

How do you show your exempt when doctors aren’t providing letters due to how busy they are?

(Before even being involved with delivering the vaccine)

Plus the government have said no proof is needed. "
This is what happens when you get to live in PC world..rulings that can be bent to suit if n when you please....im alright Jack attitudes ....complete joke ....50 thousand people daily with health issues ...ah well at least we had a nice Christmas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X"

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"As I tried to state you will be asked to prove exemption."

How do you prove exemption. From the start, most GP 's said they wouldn't issue exemption certificates, they are far too busy and even more so now...

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

So without challenge how do u diferenchate?? X

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

"As I tried to state you will be asked to prove exemption.

How do you prove exemption. From the start, most GP 's said they wouldn't issue exemption certificates, they are far too busy and even more so now..."

You don’t need to get them from the GP ... they are easily obtainable from eBay! ... for anyone who wants one!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in.

How do you show your exempt when doctors aren’t providing letters due to how busy they are?

(Before even being involved with delivering the vaccine)

Plus the government have said no proof is needed. This is what happens when you get to live in PC world..rulings that can be bent to suit if n when you please....im alright Jack attitudes ....complete joke ....50 thousand people daily with health issues ...ah well at least we had a nice Christmas "

I'm too stunned to articulate a response

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By *ensual 2Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

"As I tried to state you will be asked to prove exemption.

How do you prove exemption. From the start, most GP 's said they wouldn't issue exemption certificates, they are far too busy and even more so now...

You don’t need to get them from the GP ... they are easily obtainable from eBay! ... for anyone who wants one!"
Do you need a Docs note LOL

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

So without challenge how do u diferenchate?? X"

That's the point you don't.

Imagine having a disability and having to prove yourself every day or have people tell them they are not entitled to an independent life.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"As I tried to state you will be asked to prove exemption.

How do you prove exemption. From the start, most GP 's said they wouldn't issue exemption certificates, they are far too busy and even more so now...

You don’t need to get them from the GP ... they are easily obtainable from eBay! ... for anyone who wants one!"

I know..this is why it's such a farce!, So why bother...

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Need to sort there staff out first, We did our monthly shop last week & while till & general store staff where masked up other staff possibly office/warehouse were not.

I’d expect to see the odd person due to exemptions but there were at least five or six of them wandering about.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Cant wear one due to a mental illness? Surely most if not everyone can manage to wear a face covering while shopping?"
No not all can wear one ... severe learning difficulties, trauma reasons and many other reasons.

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By *kippy321Man
over a year ago

london

Everyone should be wearing a mask how would u feel if some cough r sneeze in your direction with out a mask

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting. "

No it's really not! I have a child with autism it's not to make others feel better? If u could only feel my literal pain at this moment u might understand why ? I work an 8 hr shift wearing mine with asthma which is not easy! And yes I get that alot cant wear them ! As I said home delivery is an option ? I'm not expecting peeps to starve? And of course not have to stay behind a locked door! People can go out in the open what is the attraction of supermarkets?

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over a year ago

"Need to sort there staff out first, We did our monthly shop last week & while till & general store staff where masked up other staff possibly office/warehouse were not.

I’d expect to see the odd person due to exemptions but there were at least five or six of them wandering about.

All staff (if they can) should be, whatever their position, they're told to, anyway.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

"Need to sort there staff out first, We did our monthly shop last week & while till & general store staff where masked up other staff possibly office/warehouse were not.

I’d expect to see the odd person due to exemptions but there were at least five or six of them wandering about.

“Their & were” proofreadings not my strongpoint

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in. "

I agree

But its still the security guys that have to challenge potentially aggressive customers

With little power

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

So without challenge how do u diferenchate?? X

That's the point you don't.

Imagine having a disability and having to prove yourself every day or have people tell them they are not entitled to an independent life. "

As I said I have a child with autism and get this! We talking supermarket as these seem to b the spreading grounds! not locking peeps up! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

So without challenge how do u diferenchate?? X

That's the point you don't.

Imagine having a disability and having to prove yourself every day or have people tell them they are not entitled to an independent life.

As I said I have a child with autism and get this! We talking supermarket as these seem to b the spreading grounds! not locking peeps up! X"

As far as I'm aware there has only been for supermarkets in the entire country that have had a mass outbreak amongst staff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less

Please can you add your Medical, scientific or social media credentials re. your statement "

What. Everyone knows this... it was on a meme on Facebook.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think in situations it is clearly obvious, there are many though as some have said who abuse this and should be wearing a face covering, some I have noticed wear face sheilds that can't wear a mask and at least they are trying to help. But those where exceptions are not clearly obvious it's is trickier and people should be more understanding. However people are getting frustrated and the longer people want to disregard all the safety measures it makes people upset and angry..

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I really Dont understand the issue because I would say at least 95% of people when I am out and about (which isn't often, iv left the house twice since 23ed December) are wearing a mask or face covering.

Just leave the 5% alone and assume they are exempt and be kind. "

Then maybe u shd get urself down to local supermarkets? X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just leave the 5% alone and assume they are exempt and be kind.

Then maybe u shd get urself down to local supermarkets? X"

I have and I defy anybody to tell me that the majority of people are not wearing face masks.

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

Well I’m off to shop in Morrisons from now on .... my choice!

Candyfloss ... you and your colleagues are absolute stars - and one of the unsung hero’s of this situation- you have a right to be protected as best you can be - I completely applaud you.

R xx

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

So without challenge how do u diferenchate?? X

That's the point you don't.

Imagine having a disability and having to prove yourself every day or have people tell them they are not entitled to an independent life.

As I said I have a child with autism and get this! We talking supermarket as these seem to b the spreading grounds! not locking peeps up! X

As far as I'm aware there has only been for supermarkets in the entire country that have had a mass outbreak amongst staff."

Well 2 of those must b the 2 big ones here in ashford? X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well I’m off to shop in Morrisons from now on .... my choice!

Candyfloss ... you and your colleagues are absolute stars - and one of the unsung hero’s of this situation- you have a right to be protected as best you can be - I completely applaud you.

R xx"

I agree with this however I do not agree with the attitude but disabled people are the problem here. It is a disgusting attitude and not acceptable regardless of what somebody does for a living.

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By *ightmyfireMan
over a year ago

beccles

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

* He happens to be the happiest person you could ever wish to meet. "

That's awfully sad about yr brother, but during a pandemic he needs to go shopping?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x"

No it isn't. My sister lives on the Isle of Wight and cannot get a delivery from her local co-op, The delivery slots for Iceland are OK but they often don't have everything she needs, also the 3 pound delivery charge is something but she cannot afford every time she needs some bread.

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By *ohnnyGentMan
over a year ago

london

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Absolutely - I counted 12 people not wearing masks in my local shop yesterday. That’s far to many. If people followed the rules we’d be out of this mess faster I think.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Tesco were very helpful to my husband. He very occasionally shops with me when I'm shopping for 3 households. He has scarred lungs from double pneumonia, which was near fatal he has mild asthma. He insisted on wearing a mask, albeit he struggled..until one day he nearly flaked out in Tescos! The staff member gave him a lanyard, which he hates wearing as he says people stare at him...I suppose we could carry his chest xrays around with us

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By *ightmyfireMan
over a year ago

beccles

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

If she did a weekly shop on line etc would she need just to get a loaf of bread

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx"

But you are not giving any reason you are saying everybody can get a delivery when that isn't true, You are saying that disabled people should not go out to shop if they cannot where a mask that is also not true and not what supermarket all the government are advocating.

Say something reasonable and I may well agree with you but so far you haven't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

If she did a weekly shop on line etc would she need just to get a loaf of bread "

She did do weekly shop but they didn't have any bread. Why are people so judgmental and why can't people understand people are allowed to shop for essential items they are doing nothing wrong.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Hmmmm?

"We need to make sure people actually wear masks and follow the one-way system," he said.

I shop Morrison's all the time and the one-way-system stopped after the first lockdown and never came back.

There is an In this way and Out his way - but in fact you end up in the same space on the way out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been working trying to enforce this at Trafford Centre.. unless they instruct security staff to act like they do in a venue where if you dont have a ticket you can't come in.. it will be impossible to achieve

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in.

How do you show your exempt when doctors aren’t providing letters due to how busy they are?

(Before even being involved with delivering the vaccine)

When you say PC world?

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By *ightmyfireMan
over a year ago

beccles

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

If she did a weekly shop on line etc would she need just to get a loaf of bread

She did do weekly shop but they didn't have any bread. Why are people so judgmental and why can't people understand people are allowed to shop for essential items they are doing nothing wrong."

No one is doing anything wrong or judging . I dont think I'd want to go to shops now if I couldn't wear a mask ....maybe she has to go out maybe there is absolutely no help what so ever for her, I dont know

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"I've been working trying to enforce this at Trafford Centre.. unless they instruct security staff to act like they do in a venue where if you dont have a ticket you can't come in.. it will be impossible to achieve "

How do you try and enforce it, what are your powers?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined.

Trouble is, its the poor bastards that work in supermarket security that will have to challenge people

How much actual power do they have, and are they gonna potentially put themselves in harms way?

agreed it would be security that deal with it, but it should be made law so they have backing. if you cant show youre exempt you shouldnt be allowed in.

How do you show your exempt when doctors aren’t providing letters due to how busy they are?

(Before even being involved with delivering the vaccine)

I'm too stunned to articulate a response

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By *omoxfordMan
over a year ago

leeds

I had an argument with someone about this

You either wear a face covering or a lanyard to show you are excempt

But she says if someone doesn't do either of those things you can't challenge them as it's discrimination an there is an equality act law

An you can get in bother if challenging some one

I personally think they need to grow up an follow the rules either mask or lanyard no middle ground

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

* He happens to be the happiest person you could ever wish to meet.

That's awfully sad about yr brother, but during a pandemic he needs to go shopping?

He probably needs food

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

Say something reasonable and I may well agree with you but so far you haven't. "

I doubt u would tbh! And as I said I'm not feeling well so cant b arsed also worrying about other family members at mo a friend from supermarket who's in icu with covid! 2 granddaughters who lost their other nan and grandad 2 days apart with covid over xmas so will bail out wouldn't want to say something might regret x

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

How do you try and enforce it, what are your powers?"

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

And how do you distinguish them without approaching them and actually asking them?

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Ooh. Mr Hancock is giving a press conference on BBC news

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By *ightmyfireMan
over a year ago

beccles

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

* He happens to be the happiest person you could ever wish to meet.

That's awfully sad about yr brother, but during a pandemic he needs to go shopping?

He probably needs food"

I did also say maybe needs to say may not have any help at all , but you didnt copy that bit

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

How do you try and enforce it, what are your powers?

Was that a silly question, Lionel?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We need to go back to single person shopping, one trolley, one person no obvious groups or pairs, just like the first lovk down...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

And how do you distinguish them without approaching them and actually asking them?

You don't if somebody is offered a mask at the front of the stop and they say they are exempt that is the end of it and that person should be allowed to carry on with their shopping.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The charges for delivery/ click and collect have gone up a lot in the last year, not everyone can afford it. And usual waiting time is over a week.

I hate going shopping at the moment, but I'm not clinically vulnerable, so I rarely if ever get a delivery. I hope that those who are, can.

I am exempt, which is not the same thing as clinically vulnerable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

Say something reasonable and I may well agree with you but so far you haven't.

I'm sorry you are having a shitty time and I hope things improve but that doesn't excuse your attitude towards disabled people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx"

i think there are problems on both sides of this

do you really NEED a loaf of bread so often that it would be the only thing in your order? can’t you buy more in the big order and make it last, some are longer life , it can be toasted if its not day 1 fresh and it can be frozen - what people want and what they need are 2 very different things but as a society we use them almost interchangeably these days

but on the flip side, even if in dire times like now legislation was put in place that we thought was for the good of all (ie mandatory masks) and it meant some people were restricted temporarily from shops , how do you ever start to dial stuff like that back? is it linked to tiers? when do we tell people they can start using what are basic services again ... i’m not someone that thinks this is being done for control and we are giving up rights willy nilly, but i do think this one becomes a bit too messy and something we gotta steer clear of

but

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"The charges for delivery/ click and collect have gone up a lot in the last year, not everyone can afford it. And usual waiting time is over a week.

I hate going shopping at the moment, but I'm not clinically vulnerable, so I rarely if ever get a delivery. I hope that those who are, can.

I am exempt, which is not the same thing as clinically vulnerable."

Can u get delivaroo in your area just a thought? I had one yesterday and they collect from co op and deliver to doorstep contactless think it was £1.50 x

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

100% yes.

Those without or who reckon they cant wear one will need to prove why they can't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not looking forward to work...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

i think there are problems on both sides of this

but "

So many privileged people that have loads of freezer space and storage space and can afford regular delivery charges.

There is no two sides to this. People who have a face covering exemption are entitled to go to the local shop to buy essential items regardless of whether they can or cannot get a delivery.

Neither the supermarkets or the government are saying that these people should not be able to go about their business the same as anyone else

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"100% yes.

Those without or who reckon they cant wear one will need to prove why they can't."

They do not need to prove it please read the article.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"100% yes.

Those without or who reckon they cant wear one will need to prove why they can't."

How do they prove it though?

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

* He happens to be the happiest person you could ever wish to meet.

That's awfully sad about yr brother, but during a pandemic he needs to go shopping?

Well he still gotta eat lol

We are so blessed with his care staff who genuinely love him. His core team has been reduced to the best minimum team. All of whom have gone to extra lengths and cha4ge their out if work lives to be able to protect him. He hasn't been food shopping in months himself as it's always arrange a member of his team will stay late after hand over and go shopping or on theor to way to work. That's fantastic. But if they go to the supermarket and someine with out a mask passes in convid ( mask only stop you spreading it not catching it) They then go to spend the day with my brother...so even tho he/we have done everything to protect him, the actions of others can still affect him at home.

Don't be sad for him. He has smiled every day of his life.

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

And how do you distinguish them without approaching them and actually asking them?

You don't if somebody is offered a mask at the front of the stop and they say they are exempt that is the end of it and that person should be allowed to carry on with their shopping."

No, I slightly disagree ....

As long as the same person who is offered a mask and then declines it due to a medical condition is then gladly and willing to put on a label or lanyard that also offered to them saying they are exempt.

If they then refuse to wear one of those...they shouldn't be allowed into the shop

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

Say something reasonable and I may well agree with you but so far you haven't.

I'm sorry you are having a shitty time and I hope things improve but that doesn't excuse your attitude towards disabled people."

Ty and as I said I have no attitude what sever towards disabled people! If only u knew me u would know that! I have a autistic child and when able to I work with eldest son looking after severely disabled children is his job doing respite for the parents! Some really lovely kiddies that I find heartbreaking sometimes in their own little worlds x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

And how do you distinguish them without approaching them and actually asking them?

You don't if somebody is offered a mask at the front of the stop and they say they are exempt that is the end of it and that person should be allowed to carry on with their shopping.

No, I slightly disagree ....

If they then refuse to wear one of those...they shouldn't be allowed into the shop"

The government disagree with you because they make it clear that nobody has to prove they are exempt or wear anything to show that they are.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x"

If you can get a slot that is. Some you have to book weeks in advance.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

As long as exempt people who aren't wearing masks keep their distance and don't cough in my direction, or cough into their hands and touch all the items on the shelves before choosing one, they can go maskless.

As for enforcing the face covered or no entry rules- good luck with that one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

Say something reasonable and I may well agree with you but so far you haven't.

I'm sorry you are having a shitty time and I hope things improve but that doesn't excuse your attitude towards disabled people.

No I don't know you and I can only go by what you have written on here and you have made it very clear that if somebody is disabled and cannot wear a mask they should not be going shopping.

Also you do not need to talk to me about autism as I fully understand.

You are ssking people to be respectful of your need to work in a safe environment but you are not being respectful of other people's need to be able to be independent and do food shopping so it works both ways.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

If you can get a slot that is. Some you have to book weeks in advance. "

Yes I know! I booked my tesco one 2 weeks ago and earliest I could get is 23rd have been using deliveroo they collect from co op plus eldest daughter got my dog food from tesco today as we covid house x

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

If you can get a slot that is. Some you have to book weeks in advance. "

I book a weekly one. If you book early you can get some for as little as £3.50. That's not a lot considering bus fare or a taxi would be much dearer.

If you have an Asda near you you can book more than one delivery at a time and to different addresses.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

Masks do not prevent you from getting the virus..

Masks prevent you (somewhat) from spreading the virus

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

Say something reasonable and I may well agree with you but so far you haven't.

I'm sorry you are having a shitty time and I hope things improve but that doesn't excuse your attitude towards disabled people.

No I don't know you and I can only go by what you have written on here and you have made it very clear that if somebody is disabled and cannot wear a mask they should not be going shopping.

Also you do not need to talk to me about autism as I fully understand.

Ok I'm done!! X

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

And how do you distinguish them without approaching them and actually asking them?

You don't if somebody is offered a mask at the front of the stop and they say they are exempt that is the end of it and that person should be allowed to carry on with their shopping.

No, I slightly disagree ....

If they then refuse to wear one of those...they shouldn't be allowed into the shop

The government disagree with you because they make it clear that nobody has to prove they are exempt or wear anything to show that they are."

So there you are ...stalemate...no progress because we don't want to offend the liberal lovely dovey's who say its an infringement on their civil liberties....

What a lot of tosh...Its simple and not rocket science...

Sir/Madam could we ask yout o put on

or Wear a mask please.....no..

We can provide one...do you want one....no.

Are you exempt...yes...then please put on this lanyard or badge.

Are you exempt.... no....

THEN BUGGER OFF...YOU aint getting in.

Its quite simple really.

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting. "

Not only disgusting but discrimination.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

If you can get a slot that is. Some you have to book weeks in advance.

I book a weekly one. If you book early you can get some for as little as £3.50. That's not a lot considering bus fare or a taxi would be much dearer.

If you have an Asda near you you can book more than one delivery at a time and to different addresses."

Yes I know but this lady is talking about the co-op delivery and that is not available everywhere.

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"Masks do not prevent you from getting the virus..

Masks prevent you (somewhat) from spreading the virus "

Which is why people who are exempt should do their utmost to not mix with the general public.

It's not fair on people who have no choice to be out and about, and are wearing some kind of face covering to try to stop the spread.

I'm pissed off with people on buses coughing their guts up, with no care for anyone else on the bus whilst proudly displaying their exemption badge.

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

I agree. I think all shops should ban them. Time to get tough.

And how do you distinguish them without approaching them and actually asking them?

You don't if somebody is offered a mask at the front of the stop and they say they are exempt that is the end of it and that person should be allowed to carry on with their shopping.

No, I slightly disagree ....

If they then refuse to wear one of those...they shouldn't be allowed into the shop

The government disagree with you because they make it clear that nobody has to prove they are exempt or wear anything to show that they are.

So there you are ...stalemate...no progress because we don't want to offend the liberal lovely dovey's who say its an infringement on their civil liberties....

What a lot of tosh...Its simple and not rocket science...

Sir/Madam could we ask yout o put on

or Wear a mask please.....no..

We can provide one...do you want one....no.

Are you exempt...yes...then please put on this lanyard or badge.

Are you exempt.... no....

THEN BUGGER OFF...YOU aint getting in.

Its quite simple really."

Ain't gonna happen is it?

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"Cant wear one due to a mental illness? Surely most if not everyone can manage to wear a face covering while shopping?"

Clearly not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know someone who is asmatic and has been given an exemption by his GP and he openly admits that he uses it as an excuse. The mask makes no difference to his breathing, he just chooses not to wear one and has a get away with it card.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Masks do not prevent you from getting the virus..

Masks prevent you (somewhat) from spreading the virus

Which is why people who are exempt should do their utmost to not mix with the general public.

It's not fair on people who have no choice to be out and about, and are wearing some kind of face covering to try to stop the spread.

I'm pissed off with people on buses coughing their guts up, with no care for anyone else on the bus whilst proudly displaying their exemption badge.

Masks, I understand why some people can't wear them but I don't see what the problem would be with the clear plastic visors

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

If you can get a slot that is. Some you have to book weeks in advance.

I book a weekly one. If you book early you can get some for as little as £3.50. That's not a lot considering bus fare or a taxi would be much dearer.

If you have an Asda near you you can book more than one delivery at a time and to different addresses.

Yes I know but this lady is talking about the co-op delivery and that is not available everywhere."

Is there no other supermarket near ? I looked at my local Co-op delivery and the prices are extortionate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Masks do not prevent you from getting the virus..

Masks prevent you (somewhat) from spreading the virus

Which is why people who are exempt should do their utmost to not mix with the general public.

It's not fair on people who have no choice to be out and about, and are wearing some kind of face covering to try to stop the spread.

I'm pissed off with people on buses coughing their guts up, with no care for anyone else on the bus whilst proudly displaying their exemption badge.

Masks, I understand why some people can't wear them but I don't see what the problem would be with the clear plastic visors "

You don't understand why somebody with a severe disability or autism or a severe mental health issue or a severe learning disability couldn't?

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By *ungry CatCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

To every single mask advocate here - do you do every single following step in correct order every single time you put one on?

If using a disposable mask:

1. Wash/sanitize your hands before handling the mask.

2. Remove it from the original packaging.

3. Put it on by ear straps, only touch the mask to secure it in position.

4. Do not under any circumstances touch your face while wearing it (no adjusting, no scratching, no pulling down) and if you do happen to touch it - do you sanitize/wash your hands immediately?

5. Do you remove your mask by the ear straps?

6. Do you safely dispose of it in a provided recycling bin?

7. Do you wash/sanitize your hands after removing your mask?

8. Do you NEVER reuse a blue/white disposable mask? You must use a fresh mask every time you take the old one off.

For reusable cloth covering:

All of the above except when you take it off -

Do you store it in a Ziploc bag until you can put it in a washing machine?

Do you use a fresh mask when you take the old one off?

If your answer is "No" to any of the questions above - congratulations you are a lot more likely to spread any diseases as well as get yourself ill than anyone who does not wear a face covering.

What I've just listed isn't something that I made up. It has been published in gov.uk for many months now only hidden in the small print.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

If you can get a slot that is. Some you have to book weeks in advance.

I book a weekly one. If you book early you can get some for as little as £3.50. That's not a lot considering bus fare or a taxi would be much dearer.

If you have an Asda near you you can book more than one delivery at a time and to different addresses.

Yes I know but this lady is talking about the co-op delivery and that is not available everywhere.

Is there no other supermarket near ? I looked at my local Co-op delivery and the prices are extortionate. "

No The situation i used was that of my sister who lives on the Isle of Wight so she is very restricted and the only option she has is to walk down the road to her local co op but people seem to have an issue with this.

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

Ok I'm done!! X"

You and me both .... but this is part of the reason why we are where are - some just do not get it!

... can’t find the me slapping my forehead emoji - but would be using it if I could?

Over and out x

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"BBC News - Coronavirus: Morrisons to ban shoppers who refuse to wear face masks

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55618408"

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

"I know someone who is asmatic and has been given an exemption by his GP and he openly admits that he uses it as an excuse. The mask makes no difference to his breathing, he just chooses not to wear one and has a get away with it card. "

And that's wrong to take advantage like that..

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

Absolutely rather be in a supermarket full of vulnerable people being extra careful without masks than “healthy” with.

Same one in and out of pockets all day, put on running into the shop cos it’s the rules not cos they care! Minging haha

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"Masks do not prevent you from getting the virus..

Masks prevent you (somewhat) from spreading the virus

Which is why people who are exempt should do their utmost to not mix with the general public.

It's not fair on people who have no choice to be out and about, and are wearing some kind of face covering to try to stop the spread.

I'm pissed off with people on buses coughing their guts up, with no care for anyone else on the bus whilst proudly displaying their exemption badge.

Masks, I understand why some people can't wear them but I don't see what the problem would be with the clear plastic visors "

Sometimes it's about being claustrophobic and having panic attacks. I have to pull my mask up sometimes to take a deep breath in. If I get really bad I'll leave the shop, or get off the bus.

Apparently, I live in the part of the UK with the highest Covid rates of infections, so I'm staying home. My local shops have no social distancing being adhered to, and a lot of people aren't wearing masks inside them.

I can be careful to wash my hands and not touch my face, but I have no control over someone coughing or sneezing in my vicinity.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"To every single mask advocate here - do you do every single following step in correct order every single time you put one on?

If using a disposable mask:

1. Wash/sanitize your hands before handling the mask.

2. Remove it from the original packaging.

3. Put it on by ear straps, only touch the mask to secure it in position.

4. Do not under any circumstances touch your face while wearing it (no adjusting, no scratching, no pulling down) and if you do happen to touch it - do you sanitize/wash your hands immediately?

5. Do you remove your mask by the ear straps?

6. Do you safely dispose of it in a provided recycling bin?

7. Do you wash/sanitize your hands after removing your mask?

8. Do you NEVER reuse a blue/white disposable mask? You must use a fresh mask every time you take the old one off.

For reusable cloth covering:

All of the above except when you take it off -

Do you store it in a Ziploc bag until you can put it in a washing machine?

Do you use a fresh mask when you take the old one off?

If your answer is "No" to any of the questions above - congratulations you are a lot more likely to spread any diseases as well as get yourself ill than anyone who does not wear a face covering.

What I've just listed isn't something that I made up. It has been published in gov.uk for many months now only hidden in the small print.

Well researched.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

"The charges for delivery/ click and collect have gone up a lot in the last year, not everyone can afford it. And usual waiting time is over a week.

I hate going shopping at the moment, but I'm not clinically vulnerable, so I rarely if ever get a delivery. I hope that those who are, can.

I am exempt, which is not the same thing as clinically vulnerable.

Can u get delivaroo in your area just a thought? I had one yesterday and they collect from co op and deliver to doorstep contactless think it was £1.50 x"

I can. The supermarket charge is more than through the supermarket, and the selection is much smaller.

I make the choice to go to the supermarket because I'd rather the slot go to someone who needs it more than me.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

"Masks do not prevent you from getting the virus..

Masks prevent you (somewhat) from spreading the virus

Which is why people who are exempt should do their utmost to not mix with the general public.

It's not fair on people who have no choice to be out and about, and are wearing some kind of face covering to try to stop the spread.

I'm pissed off with people on buses coughing their guts up, with no care for anyone else on the bus whilst proudly displaying their exemption badge.

Masks, I understand why some people can't wear them but I don't see what the problem would be with the clear plastic visors

You don't understand why somebody with a severe disability or autism or a severe mental health issue or a severe learning disability couldn't?"

Look at the word you used there "severe"

Most excuses people are making to not wear them are not classed as severe.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

i think there are problems on both sides of this

but

So many privileged people that have loads of freezer space and storage space and can afford regular delivery charges.

There is no two sides to this. People who have a face covering exemption are entitled to go to the local shop to buy essential items regardless of whether they can or cannot get a delivery.

Neither the supermarkets or the government are saying that these people should not be able to go about their business the same as anyone else "

i have bugger all storage space and just a standard freezer but i could stack a couple of loaves on top on each other in the worktop if i really thought i needed so much bread that it would need to be ordered on its own before my next shop ... not ideal but again what we want and what we need are not interchangeable

ive never at any point on any thread said people exempt from mask wearing shouldn’t be allowed in the shop (i have argued for the lanyards)

if there wasn’t more than one way to look at this (to look at pretty much anything) there wouldn’t be a forum discussion with differing opinions - trouble is everyone only wants to see their own side

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By *ungry CatCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

"Absolutely rather be in a supermarket full of vulnerable people being extra careful without masks than “healthy” with.

Same one in and out of pockets all day, put on running into the shop cos it’s the rules not cos they care! Minging haha "

I swear my knickers are cleaner than most people's "masks"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Masks do not prevent you from getting the virus..

Masks prevent you (somewhat) from spreading the virus

Which is why people who are exempt should do their utmost to not mix with the general public.

It's not fair on people who have no choice to be out and about, and are wearing some kind of face covering to try to stop the spread.

I'm pissed off with people on buses coughing their guts up, with no care for anyone else on the bus whilst proudly displaying their exemption badge.

Masks, I understand why some people can't wear them but I don't see what the problem would be with the clear plastic visors

You don't understand why somebody with a severe disability or autism or a severe mental health issue or a severe learning disability couldn't?

Look at the word you used there "severe"

Most excuses people are making to not wear them are not classed as severe."

But the problem is how do you differentiate these people so the best thing to do is just be kind to everyone and keep your distance. Also it is not the word I use word the government uses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

i think there are problems on both sides of this

but

So many privileged people that have loads of freezer space and storage space and can afford regular delivery charges.

There is no two sides to this. People who have a face covering exemption are entitled to go to the local shop to buy essential items regardless of whether they can or cannot get a delivery.

Neither the supermarkets or the government are saying that these people should not be able to go about their business the same as anyone else

ive never at any point on any thread said people exempt from mask wearing shouldn’t be allowed in the shop (i have argued for the lanyards)

The problem is that the people that are being targeted by the shouldn't go out if you can't wear a mask are normally the most vulnerable in society so I think that these people absolutely need to be stood up for.

Also it isn't about opinion because the law and guidelines about exemption is very clear it's just unfortunate that many individuals choose to ignore this.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think the shoppers who don't wear face coverings should have there shopping for free they are so brave facing the world with all the problems theve got.

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"They don’t work.

If the worked numbers would be better.

In truth numbers are EXACTLY the same with and without them.

It’s a comfort blanket. No more - no less

if someone sneezed in my direction i'd rather they were wearing a covering!"

It was no different years ago was it? The pandemic hasn't made it any different.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Surely used masks should be treated as clinical waste and incinerated, not thrown in the gutter, on the beach or in someone's hedge or garden?

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By *ad NannaWoman
over a year ago

East London

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

If you can get a slot that is. Some you have to book weeks in advance.

I book a weekly one. If you book early you can get some for as little as £3.50. That's not a lot considering bus fare or a taxi would be much dearer.

If you have an Asda near you you can book more than one delivery at a time and to different addresses.

Yes I know but this lady is talking about the co-op delivery and that is not available everywhere.

Is there no other supermarket near ? I looked at my local Co-op delivery and the prices are extortionate.

That's a shame. A helpful neighbour with a car would be handy for her.

I started the lockdown with getting mine and my daughter's shopping delivered to me, then getting my son to drop hers over to her.

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By *ungry CatCouple
over a year ago

Belfast

"Surely used masks should be treated as clinical waste and incinerated, not thrown in the gutter, on the beach or in someone's hedge or garden?"

Or... reused.

Mask police seem to miss those points completely

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton

"According to BBC news. Should the rest of retail outlets follow suit?

Bout time to...its a joke..so many people who just wont play the game

if they wont play the game they should be thrown out of the shop, banned and fined."

What about those who cannot 'play' the game because of their disability? Shops cannot as they'd leave themselves wide open for discrimination.

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton

I know for a fact when I go round shops there are definitely those who aren’t exempt but will use that as an excuse to not follow the rules."

Whatever system is in place, they'd be available on the Internet within hours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely used masks should be treated as clinical waste and incinerated, not thrown in the gutter, on the beach or in someone's hedge or garden?"

They should

Ive often seen bins outside supermarkets overflowing with masks

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"Surely used masks should be treated as clinical waste and incinerated, not thrown in the gutter, on the beach or in someone's hedge or garden?

Or... reused.

Mask police seem to miss those points completely "

The washable ones, yes. Disposable ones should be treated as a bio hazard if covid is that infectious. We should have yellow clinical waste bins on the streets, surely?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've never understood not wearing masks..if you cant wear one if yr vulnerable then you shouldn't be out

So somebody with a disability who is in vulnerable to the virus but cannot wear a face covering because they have a mental illness, Autism or severe learning difficulty should not go out?

The attitudes regarding disability is disgusting.

As I said to u b 4 although I think it's not right in these times it may b best for everone including themselves! To avoid supermarkets yes! X

So you want disabled people to stay away from supermarkets! What an appalling attitude.

Why are these people being asked to stay away, To make other feel better and is disgusting.

Because delivery is not an option for everybody and it is not the attraction of a supermarket is it is a necessity.

Yes it is an option for everybody x

I'm not gonna argue with u seem hell bent on not listening to reason and as I said am unwell so not up to it! But have a lovely eve xx

i think there are problems on both sides of this

but

So many privileged people that have loads of freezer space and storage space and can afford regular delivery charges.

There is no two sides to this. People who have a face covering exemption are entitled to go to the local shop to buy essential items regardless of whether they can or cannot get a delivery.

Neither the supermarkets or the government are saying that these people should not be able to go about their business the same as anyone else

ive never at any point on any thread said people exempt from mask wearing shouldn’t be allowed in the shop (i have argued for the lanyards)

Also it isn't about opinion because the law and guidelines about exemption is very clear it's just unfortunate that many individuals choose to ignore this."

the 2 sides dont need to be a discussion about the law

it could be people hearing your anecdotal stories and examples to give them some understanding of how it can be impractical and unreasonable for people to entirely avoid a supermarket and they might then approach the situation and discussion with more empathy

meanwhile you could be more open to understanding people who work in supermarkets and having to interact with non mask wearers (many of whom are piss takers making the anger at the genuine no mask wearers worse) are scared that going to work will make them sick and that they will take it back home and make their family sick

your sister needs to eat, needs to get to the shop, is entitled to do that without abuse

the other poster also needs to eat, to do that they need to go to work and they are entitled to feel safe at their work ... its bloody crap for everyone but nobody wants to concede or bend even the tiniest bit

saying there is no 2 sides shuts down that whole discussion

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By *ljamMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Sad that this even has to be considered. I dislike that these things have to be regulated so, and would much rather people just got on with it, washed their hands and wore their masks (barring any medical exemptions). It really shouldn't be that big of a deal... but unfortunately the stupidity of the anti-mask brigade make it inevitable that this issue continues to rumble on.

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