FabSwingers.com forum: October Holidays

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Missus and I have been looking to book a weeks holiday in Greece during the last week of October 2021.

Just wanted to gauge the audience on here to understand what everyone’s thought were? Good or bad idea?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

My personal thoughts, as restrictions stand into the UK that is what I’d take into account, ie need a negative test 72 hours prior to return plus then quarantine 10 days; possibility of the unknown would the travel corridor close, would you get a refund, if cancelled, covered by insurance etc.

Lots of what ifs for me still right now. If not looking to go away until October maybe wait until mid year to book and see how things are playing out

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"My personal thoughts, as restrictions stand into the UK that is what I’d take into account, ie need a negative test 72 hours prior to return plus then quarantine 10 days; possibility of the unknown would the travel corridor close, would you get a refund, if cancelled, covered by insurance etc.

Lots of what ifs for me still right now. If not looking to go away until October maybe wait until mid year to book and see how things are playing out "

These are exactly the arguments Iv put on the table today. There is not a ‘risk free’ way of doing this to protect your money.

She is dead keen as there are some outrageous deals for great hotels (naturally) but I’m really sceptical. However, the idea of a week of her in a bikini is mighty inviting!

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

Any idea of travel this year is a bad idea.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

Personally if wait till 2022. A lot happening this year, 750 million people in Europe need vaccinating before travel and holidays go back to normal.

Cornwall lovely in october.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

I wouldn't bother booking

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

I think wait till nearer the time

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Personally if wait till 2022. A lot happening this year, 750 million people in Europe need vaccinating before travel and holidays go back to normal.

Cornwall lovely in october. "

Can’t help but feel your right - Cornwall is somewhere Iv definitely always fancied. Gonna be a tough sell internally though haha!

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

Why anyone would want to travel this year with so much uncertainty is beyond me

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why anyone would want to travel this year with so much uncertainty is beyond me"

Yeah I think my mind is slowly being made up for me.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

We're not booking anything (although we really want to!) We're waiting to see what happens later in the year.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We're not booking anything (although we really want to!) We're waiting to see what happens later in the year. "

I think that’s what we should do too. To be honest I’m a massive fan of holidaying in Scotland but it’s tough to sell that.

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By *parkle1974Woman
over a year ago

Leeds

You have to keep in mind that even travelling to different parts of this country may be difficult

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You have to keep in mind that even travelling to different parts of this country may be difficult "

I’m hoping by October there may be some sort of relaxation on the restrictions

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By *reenleavesCouple
over a year ago

North Wales

We're booking our August holiday to PDI soon. If it gets cancelled again then we'll get a full refund like last time. We really need that break away in the sun!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you have had the vaccine and happy to jump through all the hoops for traveling abroad this year then go for it.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

As long as it’s all covered for your money back and stuff book away.

I don’t blame you at all and am totally Jealous!

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

We're not booking anywhere for abroad thus year. When we go on holiday and spend a lot of money we want to do what we want, when we want. Can't see that happening this year, hoping for next year as have a few big birthdays that year!

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

Why not suggest not going abroad this year but putting that money aside.

Add next year's holiday budget to it and go somewhere really spectacular...

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"If you have had the vaccine and happy to jump through all the hoops for traveling abroad this year then go for it."

She’s a nurse and is already fully vaccinated but I won’t get it this year I wouldn’t have thought. Your right though it just feels like a chew!!

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By *orny PTMan
over a year ago

Peterborough

It's just not worth the risk, you might have had the jab by then, but what about the other passengers and air/ground crew?

Can you tell if our destination will be safe by then?

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We're booking our August holiday to PDI soon. If it gets cancelled again then we'll get a full refund like last time. We really need that break away in the sun!

Wow August. That feels quite soon even though October is only two months after. Have you been before?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"As long as it’s all covered for your money back and stuff book away.

I don’t blame you at all and am totally Jealous!

I don’t think you can cover every eventuality with insurance etc. I think your money may be at risk in certain scenarios.

We just love the look of the hotel

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Why not suggest not going abroad this year but putting that money aside.

Add next year's holiday budget to it and go somewhere really spectacular... "

It’s not a bad shout mate. I’ll float the idea

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"As long as it’s all covered for your money back and stuff book away.

I don’t blame you at all and am totally Jealous!

I don’t think you can cover every eventuality with insurance etc. I think your money may be at risk in certain scenarios.

We just love the look of the hotel "

Not sure, I got all mine back for Florida within a week in March this year

(the company cancelled)

I’ll be booking for October 2021 shortly, if it’s cancelled it’s cancelled no worries

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"As long as it’s all covered for your money back and stuff book away.

I don’t blame you at all and am totally Jealous!

I don’t think you can cover every eventuality with insurance etc. I think your money may be at risk in certain scenarios.

We just love the look of the hotel

Not sure, I got all mine back for Florida within a week in March this year

(the company cancelled)

I’ll be booking for October 2021 shortly, if it’s cancelled it’s cancelled no worries

Where are you thinking about booking? We are looking at Kos.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"As long as it’s all covered for your money back and stuff book away.

I don’t blame you at all and am totally Jealous!

I don’t think you can cover every eventuality with insurance etc. I think your money may be at risk in certain scenarios.

We just love the look of the hotel

Not sure, I got all mine back for Florida within a week in March this year

(the company cancelled)

I’ll be booking for October 2021 shortly, if it’s cancelled it’s cancelled no worries

Where are you thinking about booking? We are looking at Kos."

Ah nice!

Normally Vegas in October but probably Cyprus or a Greek island as I think the USA will be last to be open fully

No crystal ball but as long as your not disappointed if it’s cancelled then nothing to lose- given your covered x

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"As long as it’s all covered for your money back and stuff book away.

I don’t blame you at all and am totally Jealous!

I don’t think you can cover every eventuality with insurance etc. I think your money may be at risk in certain scenarios.

We just love the look of the hotel

Not sure, I got all mine back for Florida within a week in March this year

(the company cancelled)

I’ll be booking for October 2021 shortly, if it’s cancelled it’s cancelled no worries

Where are you thinking about booking? We are looking at Kos.

Ah nice!

Normally Vegas in October but probably Cyprus or a Greek island as I think the USA will be last to be open fully

No crystal ball but as long as your not disappointed if it’s cancelled then nothing to lose- given your covered x"

Yeah we are trying to get confirmation that if it’s cancelled then there’s a full refund and not a ‘rebooking option’.

I’d avoid the states for a long time yet. Can’t see it being open for a year at least.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"We're not booking anything (although we really want to!) We're waiting to see what happens later in the year.

I think that’s what we should do too. To be honest I’m a massive fan of holidaying in Scotland but it’s tough to sell that."

I'd actually like to travel to the Scottish Western Isles one day, so perhaps that's sale-able?!

We'd hoped to go to the middle of nowhere in the foothills of the Spanish Sierra Nevada and rent a little villa and go exploring, but obviously Covid didn't allow. That's still our plan but it won't be actioned until things are clearer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"As long as it’s all covered for your money back and stuff book away.

I don’t blame you at all and am totally Jealous!

I don’t think you can cover every eventuality with insurance etc. I think your money may be at risk in certain scenarios.

We just love the look of the hotel "

cant you book the hotel on booking.com with free cancellation? get flights nearer the time?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure I would even think about planning get together with family at Christmas let alone book holiday abroad. Most insurance companies are not likely to refund all money so could be risky

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"We're not booking anything (although we really want to!) We're waiting to see what happens later in the year.

I think that’s what we should do too. To be honest I’m a massive fan of holidaying in Scotland but it’s tough to sell that.

I'd actually like to travel to the Scottish Western Isles one day, so perhaps that's sale-able?!

Scottish western isles beaches are ge homely some of the most beautiful in the world and are generally deserted most of the time! Great place to go.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

We are booked to go back to India in February TUI is saying it might still go ahead lol and you can still book the flight joke.

If I was looking now would book last minute when you know it's good to go.

The cash is safe in your bank.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"As long as it’s all covered for your money back and stuff book away.

I don’t blame you at all and am totally Jealous!

I don’t think you can cover every eventuality with insurance etc. I think your money may be at risk in certain scenarios.

We just love the look of the hotel

Not sure, I got all mine back for Florida within a week in March this year

(the company cancelled)

I’ll be booking for October 2021 shortly, if it’s cancelled it’s cancelled no worries

Where are you thinking about booking? We are looking at Kos.

Ah nice!

Normally Vegas in October but probably Cyprus or a Greek island as I think the USA will be last to be open fully

No crystal ball but as long as your not disappointed if it’s cancelled then nothing to lose- given your covered x

Yeah we are trying to get confirmation that if it’s cancelled then there’s a full refund and not a ‘rebooking option’.

I’d avoid the states for a long time yet. Can’t see it being open for a year at least."

Yeah definitely!

My insurance covered everything so I was happy to book.

I obviously wouldn’t be if it didn’t

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Missus and I have been looking to book a weeks holiday in Greece during the last week of October 2021.

Just wanted to gauge the audience on here to understand what everyone’s thought were? Good or bad idea? "

Good idea..The deals are great right now and it gives you something positive to look forward too. I've got a 5 day trip to italy booked for the last weekend of May.. and a holiday for my anniversary in November... at worst it will be moved to a new date

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford

Lots of what ifs for me still right now. If not looking to go away until October maybe wait until mid year to book and see how things are playing out

These are exactly the arguments Iv put on the table today. There is not a ‘risk free’ way of doing this to protect your money.

She is dead keen as there are some outrageous deals for great hotels (naturally) but I’m really sceptical. However, the idea of a week of her in a bikini is mighty inviting! "

I doubt it will be bikini weather the end of October.

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By *eard-lincolnMan
over a year ago

near lincoln

I have booked Gran Canaria for March , may , august and October . Have to remain positive. All flights come with a free change as well. There’s some really cheap flights available for the summer.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

Assuming we even get out for holidays the British economy needs your money a lot more than the Greeks... actually that’s not true but a stay cation is the more patriotic thing to do...

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

"I have booked Gran Canaria for March , may , august and October . Have to remain positive. All flights come with a free change as well. There’s some really cheap flights available for the summer. "

March.

. Stop the search, we have found the man with more misplaced optimism than Boris

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

I wouldn't bother going abroad OP. Support tourism in this country. God knows, we need to. X

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

I would wait until nearer the time. I wouldn't book anything yet.

I was so lucky I managed 10 days in Gran Canaria before Christmas between the two lockdowns. Getting the PCR test done and the self isolation after was a pain definitely worth it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Assuming we even get out for holidays the British economy needs your money a lot more than the Greeks... actually that’s not true but a stay cation is the more patriotic thing to do..."

i spend money at home the other 48/49 weeks a year ... my holidays are for something to look forward to and i don’t look forward to rain so apologies but to hell with being patriotic

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West

"Assuming we even get out for holidays the British economy needs your money a lot more than the Greeks... actually that’s not true but a stay cation is the more patriotic thing to do...

i spend money at home the other 48/49 weeks a year ... my holidays are for something to look forward to and i don’t look forward to rain so apologies but to hell with being patriotic "

I’m with ya haha!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jeremy Hunt was interviewed by Andrew Neil the other day and said he had booked a family holiday abroad in June.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

How will India vaccine 1 billion people.

We are struggling with 58 million.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"How will India vaccine 1 billion people.

We are struggling with 58 million.

We should let India worry about that and focus on getting our own programme in order. The Indian Government has the money and knowledge to sort itself out.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Jeremy Hunt was interviewed by Andrew Neil the other day and said he had booked a family holiday abroad in June."

I'm sure he can afford to lose his money if lts cancelled. Most of us plebs cannot!

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I would not book for Greece, towards the end of their summer season at present. They did well with the virus until more recently and thus they're less predictable.

The UK government imposed extra restrictions on travellers returning from there - that unpredictability isn't great either.

Travel companies haven't all been great this past year, so you may want to wait for them to improve service reliability and finalise any route changes.

We may be unwelcome in many places too.

Whilst half term is a difficult travel time, Greece gets quieter in most resorts, as weather deteriorates. Some places may not operate, without sufficient volume from everywhere.

Later in the year we'd hope that things are much improved. It's worth waiting to see the specifics of it all, as well as to make choices once you have a more accurate picture of how things will be.

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By *konCouple
over a year ago

cardiff

We are not even condlsidering this year overseas

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By *iger4uWoman
over a year ago

In my happy place

October is season end in Greece.

Your week would be taken up trying to find a test to get back into UK.

Holiday companies are being optimistic.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
over a year ago

Leigh

Wwe have our usual ferry tickets to France booked for the Summer. Don't see any reason not to go.

Then again we went last August as well and it was lovely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think you'll be allowed to go on holiday. I also think that's a massive policy blunder and I don't think you should be going.

If everyone holidayed in the UK, and we restrict travel from abroad,this year it boosts the economy at a crucial time and stops infections entering the country.

Why repeat the same mistake as last year?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Wwe have our usual ferry tickets to France booked for the Summer. Don't see any reason not to go.

Then again we went last August as well and it was lovely."

Good for you

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Assuming we even get out for holidays the British economy needs your money a lot more than the Greeks... actually that’s not true but a stay cation is the more patriotic thing to do...

i spend money at home the other 48/49 weeks a year ... my holidays are for something to look forward to and i don’t look forward to rain so apologies but to hell with being patriotic "

Yeah who wants to be patriotic

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By *ackandtheunicornCouple
over a year ago

liverpool

I'd be holding off. Far too much to go wrong and too much risk.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

"I think you'll be allowed to go on holiday. I also think that's a massive policy blunder and I don't think you should be going.

If everyone holidayed in the UK, and we restrict travel from abroad,this year it boosts the economy at a crucial time and stops infections entering the country.

Why repeat the same mistake as last year? "

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By *ittyandtheboyCouple
over a year ago

Back of the bins.

I think even if we’re looking at a good situation in the uk by October, it may still be bad elsewhere. As vaccine roll out will be different all over the world.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
over a year ago

Leigh

"If everyone holidayed in the UK, and we restrict travel from abroad,this year it boosts the economy at a crucial time and stops infections entering the country.

Why repeat the same mistake as last year? "

Looking at it from another point of view, the UK is massively overcrowded in the school holidays (which we are currently restricted to). Last year on the day 500,000 people were playing sardines on Bournemouth beach we saw about 2 people in total in France.

Also, as motorhomeers, the UK in general hates us. Car parks have height barriers; other parking restrictions apply in most places; we are forced to use campsites or official rally fields (therefore sharing with other people); camp sites have massively increased in price over the last 10 years or so as too many new people have bought vans, and expect unnecessary things such as electricity and toilet blocks, all of which cost money and are reflected in the site fees. In the UK you need to be trying pretty hard to find simple places to stay, which don't have other people. You also have to book in the UK as the sites can be full.

In Europe we are welcomed. There are good networks of "Aires" to stay free of charge or for very little money, as well as good schemes such as France Passion where you can stay on farms and vinyards free of charge. Most places have dedicated motorhome parking in the towns / villages / attractions. Height barriers are rare. The countries are bigger so it is easy to get away from people.

Overall, the ferry is the riskiest part of the journey. After that it is much safer self-isolating in the motorhome while wandering around the country. We never book any sites in Europe, we generally decide which direction to go on the day, depending on how we feel or what the weather is like. If where we intended to stay is too busy, or not nice, we just go somewhere else.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

I’m not booking anything till nearer the time I can go away and that I can also accommodate what’s needed on my return.

I desperately want to go home for a few weeks but its not viable at the moment so I’m sucking it up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sorry but anyone booking a holiday abroad in 2021 is completely delusional. The government have already warned us that there are still going to be restrictions in place next winter.

The vaccination program is expected to be rolled out into the autumn which is just the first injection, the second will be approximately 12 weeks later! You do the maths!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We rebooked our summer holiday from last year to June this year back in May last year and thought we would be fine but now we are not so sure. We will wait till closer to the time but hopefully it will be safe if not we will have to look at rebooking again.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

Seeing as the government are already worried about next winter would a holiday abroad be wise at all for this year. Its up to the individual but those that do go can't really complain if we end up back at square one.

Personally I wouldnt even dream of one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sorry but anyone booking a holiday abroad in 2021 is completely delusional. The government have already warned us that there are still going to be restrictions in place next winter.

The vaccination program is expected to be rolled out into the autumn which is just the first injection, the second will be approximately 12 weeks later! You do the maths! "

We have a holiday booked for June but that was rebooked last may from a holiday that we had booked well before the pandemic.

By then we will both have had our 2nd vaccines so we will look at government advice and see what the restrictions are in Spain and make a decision from there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Remember that the vaccination just stops you from getting symptoms. It doesn't stop you being a carrier.

The other thing to remember is the rest of Europe are weeks behind us in rolling out the vaccination. We currently have inoculated more people than the rest of Europe put together! Will they be open to receive holiday makers!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Remember that the vaccination just stops you from getting symptoms. It doesn't stop you being a carrier.

Like I said we will follow guidelines and don't for negative tests are now mandatory and we don't actually know yet whether the vaccine helps prevent spread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it has a free cancellation/ rebooking policy I'd book it.

Check that the location you are travelling to can do the covid test within 72 hours as that requirement may still be in place.

Keep your distance from people in the airports and at your destination. And have fun.

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By *ikingpairCouple
over a year ago

Cambridge

"Personally if wait till 2022. A lot happening this year, 750 million people in Europe need vaccinating before travel and holidays go back to normal.

Cornwall lovely in october.

Can’t help but feel your right - Cornwall is somewhere Iv definitely always fancied. Gonna be a tough sell internally though haha! "

You've got some of the world's best scenery right on your doorstep! How about a Munro climbing holiday? Might be a tougher sell though ... No bikinis in sight, but no worries about covid on the hills

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If it has a free cancellation/ rebooking policy I'd book it.

Check that the location you are travelling to can do the covid test within 72 hours as that requirement may still be in place.

Keep your distance from people in the airports and at your destination. And have fun.

To be honest keeping my distance from people is one of the things from this pandemic but I am definitely going to keep.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

I’ve reassessed my previous thoughts on this. NHS will be our of danger by spring thanks to vaccinating those most likely to be hospitalised. Covid will remains a presence though the summer but with much lower numbers. We should she far fewer restrictions. Should still holiday at home for our economy though

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

Wouldn't be sensible to even think about any holidays traveling anywhere abroad until things are completely back to normality virus free even at that point leave a space this alone could take months to a year but would the flights be cheaper or expensive but even UK itself has some beautiful places which people forget or don't realise

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

"Wouldn't be sensible to even think about any holidays traveling anywhere abroad until things are completely back to normality virus free even at that point leave a space this alone could take months to a year but would the flights be cheaper or expensive but even UK itself has some beautiful places which people forget or don't realise"
I doubt we will ever be virus free. I went away over last summer ( managed to get it in while we were allowed too) and it was managed great on the outbound but was shocked by lack of restrictions coming home.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

I read an article that said :

"Vaccine developers who have already reported promising phase III trial results against COVID-19 estimate that, between them, they can make sufficient doses for more than one-third of the world’s population by the end of 2021.

But many people in low-income countries might have to wait until 2023 or 2024 for vaccination, according to estimates from the Duke Global Health Innovation Center in Durham, North Carolina."

From that, I can conclude if all goes to plan, the following.

2022, an opening up of tourism in richer, 1st world countries. People's confidence will slowly return and they'll feel happier booking somewhere where they know there has been a high uptake of vaccination.

2023-2024, less affluent nations and low-income countries should be well in to their own vaccination plans.

2025, an opening up of tourism in the low-income countries when foreign travellers feel things are safe there.

So, next year for UK holidays at least, and up to 4 years away for the more exotic locations.

Butlins will make a killing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You know that's half term week right? (You didn't mention a family holiday lol)

Danish x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If it has a free cancellation/ rebooking policy I'd book it.

Check that the location you are travelling to can do the covid test within 72 hours as that requirement may still be in place.

Keep your distance from people in the airports and at your destination. And have fun.

To be honest keeping my distance from people is one of the things from this pandemic but I am definitely going to keep.

I did it before anyway.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You know that's half term week right? (You didn't mention a family holiday lol)

Danish x"

not in scotland, our half term is much earlier in october

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sad that it is, I am not making any plans for a holiday again this year.

I see no point while everything is so uncertain.

If I were to book something and then for it not to be able to go ahead, that would be worse than not booking it in the 1st place!

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By *uietlykinkymeWoman
over a year ago

kinky land

I've 2 holidays pushed back into 2021 from 2020 but if they get cancelled I'll get full refunds. Fingers crossed by the summer holidays we'll be able to fly

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By *ucka39Man
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Wouldn't be sensible to even think about any holidays traveling anywhere abroad until things are completely back to normality virus free even at that point leave a space this alone could take months to a year but would the flights be cheaper or expensive but even UK itself has some beautiful places which people forget or don't realise I doubt we will ever be virus free. I went away over last summer ( managed to get it in while we were allowed too) and it was managed great on the outbound but was shocked by lack of restrictions coming home."

I myself wouldn't rely so much on advice given by the government updates when they say it's ok too because it's not never was and example by the pubs restaurants and other has shown this the government did say being in a closed environment wouldn't be safe but kept them all open but now all closed common sense would tell you this as it's cross contamination and viruses love this to be able to spread around the government hasn't taken it very seriously and when we look back at all the viruses in history shouldn't that alone be a huge concern when any cases of a pandemic occur and I'm talking about globally from different cases of any viruses common sense tells you how to contain and avoid further transmission limited travel only in your own country full scale lockdown for school and college because of the huge mass limited access to shops what is necessary hence food supplies and cleaning products and maintain hygiene our government looks at how other countries have handled it but you can't always act like this because of climate and I'm sure loads of other reasons only way to be safe is to act responsibly and understand this virus is deadly....

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