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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this." think most shop workers have been told not to confront anyone with masks ( my son was told nit to where he works) | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this.think most shop workers have been told not to confront anyone with masks ( my son was told nit to where he works)" sorry i meant without masks  | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this." Get a grip. The masks don’t work anyway as you’re seeing with rates of infections continuing to rise everyday. Many folk appear to need a frying pan to the forehead to be able to realise this. | |||
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"Mask exemptions are clearly shown on Govt. website. It would be useful if exempt people did wear a badge to avoid misunderstandings. IF masks work, you have nothing to worry about have you ?(they don't by the way) All unpackaged products should be washed at home anyway. People wearing masks, adjusting them every 20 seconds..are also touching products. Pity that Common sense is not a bit more common." Common sense went out the window many years ago. We are forced to wear masks not because of what they can actually do but because of the perception that they actually do something. They are a false comfort blanket to all those that relied on the government to direct every stage of their lifes as they no longer have the ability to think for themselves or even look after their health and well being. | |||
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"I work in a supermarket and we are not allowed to ask them to wear masks. " Pets at home do every time | |||
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"So obviously all ok then. If you work in A & E, or ICU unit don't bother to ware a mask as it's a waste of time and if your asked to put one on in a shop it's finger pointing or against your human rights. Supermarkets have been flagged up as spreader centres. Nice to know these points perhaps we out to tell the medical people to check out experts as they don't have a clue." I agree with you 100% mybe some of these anti maskers should take a trip ICU unit were my niece works obviously they know it all by the way she said( thanks for making her job an others like her in the ICU alot harder the ones that don't follow the rules thanks) | |||
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"I work in a supermarket and we are not allowed to ask them to wear masks. Pets at home do every time " They are in breach of Govt. rules. They are also in breach of the 2010 Equalities Act. Which now encompasses the previous Acts. Sex Discrimination Act 1975 Race Relations Act 1976 Disability Discrimination Act 1995 More people should stop listening to the BBC and Sky news and look at Ivor Cummins. | |||
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"I work in a supermarket and we are not allowed to ask them to wear masks. Pets at home do every time " and people shall follow the rules at pets at home as pets are better respected that a nasty shopworker. masks has to be worn when going to hospital as the above post said so they must offer some protection. God forbid a shopworker worries about their and their family's safety. bunch of finger pointing fools. | |||
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"So obviously all ok then. If you work in A & E, or ICU unit don't bother to ware a mask as it's a waste of time and if your asked to put one on in a shop it's finger pointing or against your human rights. Supermarkets have been flagged up as spreader centres. Nice to know these points perhaps we out to tell the medical people to check out experts as they don't have a clue." The type of masks and the protocol regarding mask wearing in an icu department is a totally different animal to those worn and fitted by the general public. It has to be noted even in an icu setting the efficiency of masks are quite limited. If it brings you comfort to believe otherwise then that is a good thing but to believe that your point is the only one that carry's merit is not so good. | |||
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"My opinion also is that we all need to stop finger pointing. It's just not helping "  | |||
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"If they challenged the guy then he'd either say he's exempt (no way to prove he's not) or he'd kick off at the staff. After so many months of having to deal with this, I'm not surprised that shops take the easier option and don't engage. " This. With very little chance of Police back up why should some young lass on minimum wage, do the Policing. | |||
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"so its seems general public masks are useless and we should stop finger pointing now. in that case I think I will throw my mask away and spend tomorrow coughing and sneezing on stock and peoples faces. covid only magically appears and spreads when in grandmas House. its nice we all stick together and support each other." Did you cough and sneeze on stock and peoples faces pre covid? I would like to think you did not and are a better person than that,so why would you start doing that now? | |||
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" The bloke was touching the food on shelves" Would wearing a mask stop someone touching things? | |||
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"If they challenged the guy then he'd either say he's exempt (no way to prove he's not) or he'd kick off at the staff. After so many months of having to deal with this, I'm not surprised that shops take the easier option and don't engage. This. With very little chance of Police back up why should some young lass on minimum wage, do the Policing." No,, some young lass shouldn't,,,or some young older or male or female shouldn't have too. But the store manager has the responsibility to carry out the law, the company safety, the safety of his staff and his own safety. That's why he's the manager. The notice on the doors says clearly. MASKS MUST BE WORN. Not oopps I forgot ,, but it,'ll all be ok. Don't pick and choose the rules you want to and rubbish the ones you don't. That is why this country is in the shit. | |||
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"OP why were you and your wife both in the CoOp? Don't guidelines say only one from a family should go shopping ? " Well spotted! | |||
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"I'm more worried about those wearing masks, in and out of pockets, could have coins or snot rag in the same pocket. Then put it on incorrectly, touch it half dozen times ... then touch everything in sight! Personally I would be more happy if shops insisted on everyone wiping their hands with sanitizer... not many excuses for not doing it." if the argument for masks is that it stops you spreading to others via a cough or sneeze etc, then why would it worry you that someone else puts a dirty mask on their face ? unless you are rubbing up against their mask it should impact you when i leave the house i pack a clean mask from my drawer into a pocket ... so when i arrive somewhere with people that mask comes out of my pocket and onto my face ... its not sterile, but its not dirty and im not trying to perform surgery so for the purpose they are suggested its in a suitable condition in my opinion | |||
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"OP why were you and your wife both in the CoOp? Don't guidelines say only one from a family should go shopping ? " We shop as little as possible carry home a weekly shop, do remember some people can't carry all the shop load. There are others who have disabilitys. And you may also note one shopping at a time is guide lines. MASKS are law. If people have medical issues I have no problem with that, several locals do. This bloke thought it was funny. | |||
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"OP why were you and your wife both in the CoOp? Don't guidelines say only one from a family should go shopping ? Well spotted!" Whole families today mum dad and kids an all! X | |||
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"I'm more worried about those wearing masks, in and out of pockets, could have coins or snot rag in the same pocket. Then put it on incorrectly, touch it half dozen times ... then touch everything in sight! Personally I would be more happy if shops insisted on everyone wiping their hands with sanitizer... not many excuses for not doing it. if the argument for masks is that it stops you spreading to others via a cough or sneeze etc, then why would it worry you that someone else puts a dirty mask on their face ? unless you are rubbing up against their mask it should impact you when i leave the house i pack a clean mask from my drawer into a pocket ... so when i arrive somewhere with people that mask comes out of my pocket and onto my face ... its not sterile, but its not dirty and im not trying to perform surgery so for the purpose they are suggested its in a suitable condition in my opinion " Bacteria forms on masks, touch mask ... germs and bacteria spread Would put up a link but don't want a forum ban  | |||
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"Looking at the media the experts are asking for tougher measures. Can see the fines being increased, takeaways shut, abd more French style restrictions coming. NHS is clearly rammed in the bigger cities. Poor public compliance with rule flouting and Boris’s Christmas Day has filled the ICUs " im not a big boris fan but honestly i don’t think we can blame boris for christmas day being allowed to spend time together is not being forced to we all had the choice to stay home christmas or not, or did people need a scrooge character to blame before they would so that? most people i know were saying long before christmas rules were announced that they would be mixing on christmas day regardless ... even my gran who hasn’t set foot over someone elses threshold all year before that we have this obsession with all being together for the hallmark version of the holidays and it was happening either way (pretty sure it also happened frequently more often that just that one day too) , all boris did was say if you do it christmas day we dont call it criminal this isnt a judgement for or against what people did on christmas day ... just saying personal responsibility is so lacking and we can’t blame the govt for everything | |||
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"I'm more worried about those wearing masks, in and out of pockets, could have coins or snot rag in the same pocket. Then put it on incorrectly, touch it half dozen times ... then touch everything in sight! Personally I would be more happy if shops insisted on everyone wiping their hands with sanitizer... not many excuses for not doing it. if the argument for masks is that it stops you spreading to others via a cough or sneeze etc, then why would it worry you that someone else puts a dirty mask on their face ? unless you are rubbing up against their mask it should impact you when i leave the house i pack a clean mask from my drawer into a pocket ... so when i arrive somewhere with people that mask comes out of my pocket and onto my face ... its not sterile, but its not dirty and im not trying to perform surgery so for the purpose they are suggested its in a suitable condition in my opinion Bacteria forms on masks, touch mask ... germs and bacteria spread Would put up a link but don't want a forum ban "if bacteria forms on a clean mask for no other reason than it is in my pocket , then it must also be constantly forming on all of my clothes, not sure how i dress without touching my clothes, how i reach my phone or card to pay for shopping without touching any of my belongings unless you think we should be in hazmat suits for shopping and paying with the power of our minds, i think your worry about other peoples masks is an over reaction | |||
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"so its seems general public masks are useless and we should stop finger pointing now. in that case I think I will throw my mask away and spend tomorrow coughing and sneezing on stock and peoples faces. covid only magically appears and spreads when in grandmas House. its nice we all stick together and support each other.Did you cough and sneeze on stock and peoples faces pre covid? I would like to think you did not and are a better person than that,so why would you start doing that now? " nope I did not because I am human, but it shocks me how much people don't care that shop folk are actually worried about our safety and if we say anything we are breaking everybody's human rights by pointing our fingers. so I shall leave the snot blowing to the customers.(and I have had to point out to a customer just before Christmas that he should stop holding one nostril and spraying snot in the yard. fucks sake was the response.) oh I am not going to talk about the shit left in the Isle at the start of lockdown because the toilets were closed. | |||
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"OP why were you and your wife both in the CoOp? Don't guidelines say only one from a family should go shopping ? Well spotted! Whole families today mum dad and kids an all! X" Maybe the mum knows she can't trust the dad to leave the kids at home with him. He might be on the xbox while they run in the road. 
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"I'm more worried about those wearing masks, in and out of pockets, could have coins or snot rag in the same pocket. Then put it on incorrectly, touch it half dozen times ... then touch everything in sight! Personally I would be more happy if shops insisted on everyone wiping their hands with sanitizer... not many excuses for not doing it. if the argument for masks is that it stops you spreading to others via a cough or sneeze etc, then why would it worry you that someone else puts a dirty mask on their face ? unless you are rubbing up against their mask it should impact you when i leave the house i pack a clean mask from my drawer into a pocket ... so when i arrive somewhere with people that mask comes out of my pocket and onto my face ... its not sterile, but its not dirty and im not trying to perform surgery so for the purpose they are suggested its in a suitable condition in my opinion Bacteria forms on masks, touch mask ... germs and bacteria spread Would put up a link but don't want a forum ban
if bacteria forms on a clean mask for no other reason than it is in my pocket , then it must also be constantly forming on all of my clothes, not sure how i dress without touching my clothes, how i reach my phone or card to pay for shopping without touching any of my belongings
unless you think we should be in hazmat suits for shopping and paying with the power of our minds, i think your worry about other peoples masks is an over reaction "Not really as there is bacteria on everything we touch, think there's more bacteria on a mobile phone, dish cloth etc then a toilet seat. Yes your right, if you don't want bacteria or germs then haz mat or N.B.C suit is the thing to have. If you have time to spare look at how bacteria is spread ... eye opening!! | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. Get a grip. The masks don’t work anyway as you’re seeing with rates of infections continuing to rise everyday. Many folk appear to need a frying pan to the forehead to be able to realise this. " RIGHT STOP THE WORLD....We've been told MASK DONT WORK... some people are as thick as shit at he end of a bottle. Its people like you and the rest of rule breakers with that flippant 'couldnt give a f**k ' attitude who are responsible for the continual spread of this virus. Yeah, In sure Id rather take the word of the medical profession and WHO who say masks are required than a 'so called I Know better' knob. Don't you watch the news?  | |||
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"I am not going to talk about the shit left in the aisle at the start of lockdown because the toilets were closed. " You just have ! | |||
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"I'm more worried about those wearing masks, in and out of pockets, could have coins or snot rag in the same pocket. Then put it on incorrectly, touch it half dozen times ... then touch everything in sight! Personally I would be more happy if shops insisted on everyone wiping their hands with sanitizer... not many excuses for not doing it. if the argument for masks is that it stops you spreading to others via a cough or sneeze etc, then why would it worry you that someone else puts a dirty mask on their face ? unless you are rubbing up against their mask it should impact you when i leave the house i pack a clean mask from my drawer into a pocket ... so when i arrive somewhere with people that mask comes out of my pocket and onto my face ... its not sterile, but its not dirty and im not trying to perform surgery so for the purpose they are suggested its in a suitable condition in my opinion Bacteria forms on masks, touch mask ... germs and bacteria spread Would put up a link but don't want a forum ban
if bacteria forms on a clean mask for no other reason than it is in my pocket , then it must also be constantly forming on all of my clothes, not sure how i dress without touching my clothes, how i reach my phone or card to pay for shopping without touching any of my belongings
unless you think we should be in hazmat suits for shopping and paying with the power of our minds, i think your worry about other peoples masks is an over reaction
Not really as there is bacteria on everything we touch, think there's more bacteria on a mobile phone, dish cloth etc then a toilet seat.
Yes your right, if you don't want bacteria or germs then haz mat or N.B.C suit is the thing to have.
If you have time to spare look at how bacteria is spread ... eye opening!!
"i know bacteria is on everything , its not new information to me ... but if mobile phones are probably the dirtiest things we own and presumably you are posting from one now then i dont understand your concern over other folk with a clean mask from their pocket is my point we can’t rid the world of all bacteria and our immune systems need to be exposed to some of it to build up a health tolerance yes wash your hands regularly to avoid spreading bugs and dirt but an obsessive approach to cleanliness and bacteria is an illness in itself | |||
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"I'm more worried about those wearing masks, in and out of pockets, could have coins or snot rag in the same pocket. Then put it on incorrectly, touch it half dozen times ... then touch everything in sight! Personally I would be more happy if shops insisted on everyone wiping their hands with sanitizer... not many excuses for not doing it. if the argument for masks is that it stops you spreading to others via a cough or sneeze etc, then why would it worry you that someone else puts a dirty mask on their face ? unless you are rubbing up against their mask it should impact you when i leave the house i pack a clean mask from my drawer into a pocket ... so when i arrive somewhere with people that mask comes out of my pocket and onto my face ... its not sterile, but its not dirty and im not trying to perform surgery so for the purpose they are suggested its in a suitable condition in my opinion Bacteria forms on masks, touch mask ... germs and bacteria spread Would put up a link but don't want a forum ban
if bacteria forms on a clean mask for no other reason than it is in my pocket , then it must also be constantly forming on all of my clothes, not sure how i dress without touching my clothes, how i reach my phone or card to pay for shopping without touching any of my belongings
unless you think we should be in hazmat suits for shopping and paying with the power of our minds, i think your worry about other peoples masks is an over reaction
Not really as there is bacteria on everything we touch, think there's more bacteria on a mobile phone, dish cloth etc then a toilet seat.
Yes your right, if you don't want bacteria or germs then haz mat or N.B.C suit is the thing to have.
If you have time to spare look at how bacteria is spread ... eye opening!!
i know bacteria is on everything , its not new information to me ... but if mobile phones are probably the dirtiest things we own and presumably you are posting from one now then i dont understand your concern over other folk with a clean mask from their pocket is my point
we can’t rid the world of all bacteria and our immune systems need to be exposed to some of it to build up a health tolerance
yes wash your hands regularly to avoid spreading bugs and dirt but an obsessive approach to cleanliness and bacteria is an illness in itself "And if people put their mobile and mask in the same pocket? 
Hence if you read my original post I said I would rather everyone's hands were sanitised... as no excuses and imjo more effective | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. Get a grip. The masks don’t work anyway as you’re seeing with rates of infections continuing to rise everyday. Many folk appear to need a frying pan to the forehead to be able to realise this. RIGHT STOP THE WORLD....We've been told MASK DONT WORK... some people are as thick as shit at he end of a bottle. Its people like you and the rest of rule breakers with that flippant 'couldnt give a f**k ' attitude who are responsible for the continual spread of this virus. Yeah, In sure Id rather take the word of the medical profession and WHO who say masks are required than a 'so called I Know better' knob. Don't you watch the news? "Actually it has been proven that masks do not work. And don't go around calling people a knob because looks like you are one. | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. Get a grip. The masks don’t work anyway as you’re seeing with rates of infections continuing to rise everyday. Many folk appear to need a frying pan to the forehead to be able to realise this. RIGHT STOP THE WORLD....We've been told MASK DONT WORK... some people are as thick as shit at he end of a bottle. Its people like you and the rest of rule breakers with that flippant 'couldnt give a f**k ' attitude who are responsible for the continual spread of this virus. Yeah, In sure Id rather take the word of the medical profession and WHO who say masks are required than a 'so called I Know better' knob. Don't you watch the news?
Actually it has been proven that masks do not work. And don't go around calling people a knob because looks like you are one. "Masks do work. It has been proven they do. It is why they are being used in hospitals etc. You can get more effective and less effective masks but any mask is better than no mask. | |||
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"Need to understand equality act. You cannot ask why or reason. But glad he was friendly about it" Unfortunately equalities, freedom and rights have been taken away. Also our right to vote out this government have been taken away also as BoJo wishes to delay the election. Did i mention Democracy has been eroded away too | |||
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"OP why were you and your wife both in the CoOp? Don't guidelines say only one from a family should go shopping ? Well spotted! Whole families today mum dad and kids an all! X Maybe the mum knows she can't trust the dad to leave the kids at home with him. He might be on the xbox while they run in the road.
I wish they'd bring back the one way system in my local supermarket. People wandering about bumping into people, trolleys left across the aisle so people have to squeeze past. "Then send the dad to shop??? X | |||
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"If they challenged the guy then he'd either say he's exempt (no way to prove he's not) or he'd kick off at the staff. After so many months of having to deal with this, I'm not surprised that shops take the easier option and don't engage. " | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this." This whole turning on each other and monitoring actions makes me feel very uneasy. | |||
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" to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. This whole turning on each other and monitoring actions makes me feel very uneasy. " i'm afraid i suspect you've not seen anything yet re the turning on each other. wait until the home schooling pain really kicks in and work colleagues start to refuse to cover for parents who want to work less hours/more flexibly. allied to rona fatigue rising because of numbers going up/weather being more rubbish, and january generally being a miserable month | |||
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" It would be useful if exempt people did wear a badge to avoid misunderstandings. IF masks work, you have nothing to worry about have you ?(they don't by the way) First off I just want to say I’m not an anti mask or anti vaxer I think we’re on a very dangerous road here and it’s a lot more worrying to me than the virus is. Rational people stating that perhaps people should wear a badge to identify there exceptions from wearing a mask !! ( maybe some one will suggest maybe something like a yellow star on an armband as a non threatening symbol to let others know your different and exempted) Then how about we have areas where these people can all live together if their not willing to follow the rules then they should all just go and live together where they can put their own lives at risk and not be a threat to the rest of the population.who are abiding by the rules. There is already numerous stories of heavy handed police officers going over the top. And the acceptance of people feeling that it’s their right to question and reprimand anyone who they don’t think is not following them The “be kind” movement and social media campaigns after Caroline flacks passing has certainly been confined to the history books( I wonder how many posted be kind posts are now calling out people who for what ever reason known or unknown aren’t wearing a mask) Unfortunately we’re becoming further apart as a society rather than closer together " Apartheid comes in many form and disguises. | |||
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" to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. This whole turning on each other and monitoring actions makes me feel very uneasy. i'm afraid i suspect you've not seen anything yet re the turning on each other. wait until the home schooling pain really kicks in and work colleagues start to refuse to cover for parents who want to work less hours/more flexibly. allied to rona fatigue rising because of numbers going up/weather being more rubbish, and january generally being a miserable month " this is a hard one ... its not easy on the teachers trying to teach a class of how ever many remotely so the parents have to step up then its not easy on the parents that have to do this along side a full time job but its also not easy on the childless solo living folk either , some days i dont even want to get out of bed, yet its been on my shoulders for almost a year now to pick up for those members of staff who are juggling with childcare ... only so long you can do double work for single pay , i dont resent my colleagues ... its not their fault... i almost dont resent my employer ... where do they find the money to increase staff to cover the shortage ... but i do resent something and i dont really have anywhere to direct that | |||
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"Need to understand equality act. You cannot ask why or reason. But glad he was friendly about it Unfortunately equalities, freedom and rights have been taken away. Also our right to vote out this government have been taken away also as BoJo wishes to delay the election. Did i mention Democracy has been eroded away too" The government has always had the democratic right to delay an election, there is a cut off point however unless martial law is declared. So stay the fuck at home now, wear a mask and disposable gloves that you discard after each individual visit to a different shop/ any damn other place that you are allowed to under current guidelines or wash/ sanitise your hands ... and we won’t give them the excuse to declare it!!!!!!! | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. Get a grip. The masks don’t work anyway as you’re seeing with rates of infections continuing to rise everyday. Many folk appear to need a frying pan to the forehead to be able to realise this. RIGHT STOP THE WORLD....We've been told MASK DONT WORK... some people are as thick as shit at he end of a bottle. Its people like you and the rest of rule breakers with that flippant 'couldnt give a f**k ' attitude who are responsible for the continual spread of this virus. Yeah, In sure Id rather take the word of the medical profession and WHO who say masks are required than a 'so called I Know better' knob. Don't you watch the news?
Actually it has been proven that masks do not work. And don't go around calling people a knob because looks like you are one. "And your medical qualifications about whether masks should be worn is based upon????? duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't tell me, you read it somewhere and because you read it , well again, it must be correct. But your correct, I should'nt call someone a knob...I'll just call them a selfish ignorant inbred thick twat instead... | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this." You pr others including shop staff cannot confront a non mask wearer.. | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. Get a grip. The masks don’t work anyway as you’re seeing with rates of infections continuing to rise everyday. Many folk appear to need a frying pan to the forehead to be able to realise this. " The most intelligent comment on this thread so far. | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. Get a grip. The masks don’t work anyway as you’re seeing with rates of infections continuing to rise everyday. Many folk appear to need a frying pan to the forehead to be able to realise this. " Brilliant response | |||
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"Mask exemptions are clearly shown on Govt. website. It would be useful if exempt people did wear a badge to avoid misunderstandings. IF masks work, you have nothing to worry about have you ?(they don't by the way) All unpackaged products should be washed at home anyway. People wearing masks, adjusting them every 20 seconds..are also touching products. Pity that Common sense is not a bit more common.Common sense went out the window many years ago. We are forced to wear masks not because of what they can actually do but because of the perception that they actually do something. They are a false comfort blanket to all those that relied on the government to direct every stage of their lifes as they no longer have the ability to think for themselves or even look after their health and well being. " Absolutely agree | |||
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"Need to understand equality act. You cannot ask why or reason. But glad he was friendly about it Unfortunately equalities, freedom and rights have been taken away. Also our right to vote out this government have been taken away also as BoJo wishes to delay the election. Did i mention Democracy has been eroded away too The government has always had the democratic right to delay an election, there is a cut off point however unless martial law is declared. So stay the fuck at home now, wear a mask and disposable gloves that you discard after each individual visit to a different shop/ any damn other place that you are allowed to under current guidelines or wash/ sanitise your hands ... and we won’t give them the excuse to declare it!!!!!!!" Are you going to supply the gloves/masks etc. Thete ate thousands of people in this country which cannot afford to buy a mask let alone gloves. However, I think it would be wise for people to dispose of them correctly as opposed to on the streets. I counted 18 within a mile of a supermarket and that was only a mile | |||
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"Oh and if you are in the at risk category, stay the fuck at home or wear a hazmat suit!!!!!" This really helps of course | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. Get a grip. The masks don’t work anyway as you’re seeing with rates of infections continuing to rise everyday. Many folk appear to need a frying pan to the forehead to be able to realise this. RIGHT STOP THE WORLD....We've been told MASK DONT WORK... some people are as thick as shit at he end of a bottle. Its people like you and the rest of rule breakers with that flippant 'couldnt give a f**k ' attitude who are responsible for the continual spread of this virus. Yeah, In sure Id rather take the word of the medical profession and WHO who say masks are required than a 'so called I Know better' knob. Don't you watch the news?
Actually it has been proven that masks do not work. And don't go around calling people a knob because looks like you are one.
And your medical qualifications about whether masks should be worn is based upon????? duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't tell me, you read it somewhere and because you read it , well again, it must be correct.
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"It's not actually illegal not to wear a mask and it can't be enforced making people wear one, You can be taken to court by challenging someone on why they aren't wearing one they dont have to by law need to provide evidence the fine can be anything between £900 and £9000 if they decide to take you to court for questioning them, " And rightly so. Don't get me wrong. I wear a face covering as required at any place I'm required to do but I will defend the rights of individuals who cannot or unable to wear a face covering because of their disability or inability to wear one and not to be discriminated against by stating they have to show done sort of outward sign to say they're exempt. We have worked for many years fighting for rights, equality etc not to have them snatched away by people who are willingly doing what the government would only dream of. Control over it's people. The public are doing it willingly and at no cost to the government. Unpaid bullies. If someone cannot wear a mask, it's not up to individuals to question them or store staff. They're guilty of discrimination. What I find ridiculous is people, even a policeman today, wearing a mask and the nose not covered. What's the point of that? They obviously can wear one but choose to wear it so it's totally ineffective | |||
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"Many people are unable to leave their homes for one reason or another. The elderly, severely disabled people both physically and mentally, those shielding etc. If you very firmly believe that this virus is as much of a potential killer as we're being told, it's conceivable that there will come a time when the majority in society - those who wear masks, have to consider the good of the majority rather than the minority - those unable to wear masks, and put a ban on them leaving their homes. Yes, it may well infringe on their rights to a degree, but if allowed to continue to spread the virus by going out maskless, they would pose a physical threat to the majority. Life can be tough at times, and this is one of those times. To paraphrase Sun Tzu, if you can't fight with diplomacy, you have to fight tough with tougher." Yes lock them in their houses just because they have a medical reason not to wear a mask- even though there is no evidence mask wearing hinders transmission. I work for the NHS btw and find it offensive people think "infringing on others rights" is ever ok particularly when they live in Canada and are commenting on the situation in the UK | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this." Who the hell do you think you are to question why others aren’t wearing a mask? You should be ashamed of yourself. | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this." And why are toe workers not wearing them. No mask no shop. No make no job. | |||
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"It's not retail workers job to enforce the law it's the police. Supermarket workers have had to put up with this shit from day one and in lockdown people see it as the family day out so no wonder the guys have had enough having to deal with morons day in day out. Supermarket workers are the unsung heroes of all this and customers need to remember this before they open their mouth to moan at them! NOBODY working in retail has the right to challenge regarding masks bring it up with the goverment"
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"If they challenged the guy then he'd either say he's exempt (no way to prove he's not) or he'd kick off at the staff. After so many months of having to deal with this, I'm not surprised that shops take the easier option and don't engage. This. With very little chance of Police back up why should some young lass on minimum wage, do the Policing. No,, some young lass shouldn't,,,or some young older or male or female shouldn't have too. But the store manager has the responsibility to carry out the law, the company safety, the safety of his staff and his own safety. That's why he's the manager. The notice on the doors says clearly. MASKS MUST BE WORN. Not oopps I forgot ,, but it,'ll all be ok. Don't pick and choose the rules you want to and rubbish the ones you don't. That is why this country is in the shit." | |||
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"So sick of reading posts from people who consider themselves to be clever because they found fellow-conspiracists who assert that (take your pick)... Masks don’t work Lockdowns don’t work The virus is a hoax It’s just the flu They are dying “with” Covid - not because of Covid Please just stop demonstrating your stupidity. There is a big wide world out there and the demonstrable proof is there that as a country we are humiliating ourselves in our reaction to this worldwide pandemic. If everyone who went it into a shop wore a mask properly and sanitised their hands on entry - transmission in supermarkets would drop off the scale. Unfortunately, people don’t sanitise their hands, wear masks incorrectly or refuse to wear them at all. We are suffering more deaths every day than many counties have experienced in their whole pandemic," It's not a conspiracy to say masks don't work. There is no more evidence to say that they do than they don't. Saying people are stupid because they have analysed data differently than you is actually the stupid behaviour. Even the people everyone hold up as 'experts' have never said it is clear there is significant benefit in masks but advise their use because its a low cost, low risk intervention and if it does work then fair enough... Lockdowns demonstrably don't work you cannot and will not ever get rid of a virus from lock down. Yes you can reduce the spread but at what cost? Just because the costs of a lockdown are worth it to you, doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you. Again it doesn't make you smart and them stupid. I get that actual conspiracy theories might be annoying to read but neither of these things are conspiracy theories - they are just a different way of thinking you and it certainly doesn't make people stupid. You point out we have more deaths than many countries - and we DO have and HAVE had lockdown measures. In fact many more measures than numerous other countries with lower rates of reported infection/deaths. I don't know if you see the irony when you say lockdowns work? Presumably you think the british public are less compliant than other countries? It's certainly possible but I'd be interested to see which peer reviewed study showed you that? Until then what you or anyone else thinks is purely speculative so stop pretending you know more than everyone else. conspiracy theory - a belief that some covert but influential organisation is responsible for an unexplained event. Perhaps learn what a word means in future before using it in case you end up looking like one of those stupid people you hate. | |||
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"So sick of reading posts from people who consider themselves to be clever because they found fellow-conspiracists who assert that (take your pick)... Masks don’t work Lockdowns don’t work The virus is a hoax It’s just the flu They are dying “with” Covid - not because of Covid Please just stop demonstrating your stupidity. There is a big wide world out there and the demonstrable proof is there that as a country we are humiliating ourselves in our reaction to this worldwide pandemic. If everyone who went it into a shop wore a mask properly and sanitised their hands on entry - transmission in supermarkets would drop off the scale. Unfortunately, people don’t sanitise their hands, wear masks incorrectly or refuse to wear them at all. We are suffering more deaths every day than many counties have experienced in their whole pandemic, It's not a conspiracy to say masks don't work. There is no more evidence to say that they do than they don't. Saying people are stupid because they have analysed data differently than you is actually the stupid behaviour. Even the people everyone hold up as 'experts' have never said it is clear there is significant benefit in masks but advise their use because its a low cost, low risk intervention and if it does work then fair enough... Lockdowns demonstrably don't work you cannot and will not ever get rid of a virus from lock down. Yes you can reduce the spread but at what cost? Just because the costs of a lockdown are worth it to you, doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you. Again it doesn't make you smart and them stupid. I get that actual conspiracy theories might be annoying to read but neither of these things are conspiracy theories - they are just a different way of thinking you and it certainly doesn't make people stupid. You point out we have more deaths than many countries - and we DO have and HAVE had lockdown measures. In fact many more measures than numerous other countries with lower rates of reported infection/deaths. I don't know if you see the irony when you say lockdowns work? Presumably you think the british public are less compliant than other countries? It's certainly possible but I'd be interested to see which peer reviewed study showed you that? Until then what you or anyone else thinks is purely speculative so stop pretending you know more than everyone else. conspiracy theory - a belief that some covert but influential organisation is responsible for an unexplained event. Perhaps learn what a word means in future before using it in case you end up looking like one of those stupid people you hate. " And now we have arguing for the sake of arguing. Masks work. Even a GCSE biology student could confirm that to you. Lockdowns work as you have stated, the hope would be that people might learn that being apart from others reduces the transmission rate. I don’t think, I know that the U.K. has had amongst the worst economic and worst fatality rates. It is not a great leap to make some reasonable assumptions as to why that might be considering what we all see and read every day. | |||
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" Its illegal to ask for proof company policy does not supercede the equality act plus government guidelines say you should not challenge members of the public for proof I've heard many rumours that the co-OP are going ott I think someone should remind them of the rules It is not illegal to ask for anything, but you have a legal right not to answer if you don't wish to. Business premises are private property and there is no legal right of entry to them. However, refusing right of entry for not wearing a mask could land a company with a very hefty legal bill. Its discriminatory. You cannot refuse entry to somewhere because of disability, gender, gender preference, colour etc. It could, but the last time I looked, it hadn't been tested and the legal profession were undecided. I believe one cash and carry buainess already do this and there hasn't been any fallout so far. Whilst I fully support antidiscrimination laws in a normal setting, they weren't written with a pandemic in mind and therefore become slightly counterintuitive." It's not as thought we haven't had a pandemic before is it? | |||
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"Many people are unable to leave their homes for one reason or another. The elderly, severely disabled people both physically and mentally, those shielding etc. If you very firmly believe that this virus is as much of a potential killer as we're being told, it's conceivable that there will come a time when the majority in society - those who wear masks, have to consider the good of the majority rather than the minority - those unable to wear masks, and put a ban on them leaving their homes. Yes, it may well infringe on their rights to a degree, but if allowed to continue to spread the virus by going out maskless, they would pose a physical threat to the majority. Life can be tough at times, and this is one of those times. To paraphrase Sun Tzu, if you can't fight with diplomacy, you have to fight tough with tougher." Isn't it strange that people who would normally be considered reasonable then come out with extreme right wing views to severely curtail the movements of the less fortunate and vulnerable in our society. After the years, nay, decades of hard word making everyone inclusive, you see posts like this advocating banning people who are less fortunate than others. They are are unable to wear masks for a reason and you want to marginalise them and lock them away. Now, these are the vulnerable. However, take this a stage further, the BAME community has suffered more during this pandemic. Would you then be quite happy to lock the community away? No? Why? That is as equally discriminatory as saying lock away people who can't wear masks? How about the over 70's. Lock those away too because they're also more vulnerable. Infringe on their rights to a degree? It's driving a bus through the discrimination laws. Pointless backing your views with a statement for what it's not intended. Stop this ludicrous discrimination please. I am not in the category of defying laws. I always wear a mask when required but in doing so I also defend the rights of people who, for whatever reason, cannot wear a mask | |||
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"I work for Tesco. Exactly the same rule. We aren't trained enough or paid enough to confront customers....and they do get abusive. It's not our job to police this. Think about the staff for once" Totally agree.. A neighbours daughter works for Tesco and she gets abuse daily for a variety of reasons and the main being people hassling her and shouting at her about people not wearing masks. It's not the job of store staff to make people wear masks. Accept it | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. Get a grip. The masks don’t work anyway as you’re seeing with rates of infections continuing to rise everyday. Many folk appear to need a frying pan to the forehead to be able to realise this. " What a stupid thing to say. Masks don't prevent transmission. They reduce it significantly. Rates rise because the R rate is above 1. Shops and places were masks are worn aren't the only way of spreading the virus. Wearing masks in shops isnt enough to prevent the virus spreading if people are breaking the rules. Just look at the number of people on the site looking for meets. They will be meeting. Have you been hit with a frying pan which has resulted in you losing your common sense?? | |||
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"I think it's interesting as the company has a duty to protect its staff! And they seem to have palmed the staff off into thinking its 'easier or better' for themselves if they just work in an environment where people don't have to wear masks... get as close as they like to staff. My local sainsbury paid trained security to manage numbers in and out. Masks. People shopping on their own etc. " So what would you suggest? | |||
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"I think it's interesting as the company has a duty to protect its staff! And they seem to have palmed the staff off into thinking its 'easier or better' for themselves if they just work in an environment where people don't have to wear masks... get as close as they like to staff. " Exactly this. A customer was asking me some advice, no mask and edging closer I was uncomfortable. I said 'Are you unable to wear a mask?', next thing I know I had a finger in my face and him warning me not to ask about his medical history! I'm very proud of myself for staying calm and telling him that's not what I was asking and just a simple no would of done! I reported the incident to my manager and used the words 'I have as much right to protect my health as anyone else'. | |||
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"I think it's interesting as the company has a duty to protect its staff! And they seem to have palmed the staff off into thinking its 'easier or better' for themselves if they just work in an environment where people don't have to wear masks... get as close as they like to staff. Exactly this. A customer was asking me some advice, no mask and edging closer I was uncomfortable. I said 'Are you unable to wear a mask?', next thing I know I had a finger in my face and him warning me not to ask about his medical history! I'm very proud of myself for staying calm and telling him that's not what I was asking and just a simple no would of done! I reported the incident to my manager and used the words 'I have as much right to protect my health as anyone else'. " Tbf, an aggressive response is more likely to be from someone who isn't exempt. I absolutely hate wearing a face covering but I do to comply with the law and to maje others feel comfortable. I see quite a few that APPEAR to be fit and healthy but there's absolutely no way I would approach them or approach the shop staff to ask them would they wear one.. Personally, I don't think masks or face coverings do anything but I'll wear one to make others comfortable and so I don't get vicious comments directed at me. | |||
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"I think it's interesting as the company has a duty to protect its staff! And they seem to have palmed the staff off into thinking its 'easier or better' for themselves if they just work in an environment where people don't have to wear masks... get as close as they like to staff. Exactly this. A customer was asking me some advice, no mask and edging closer I was uncomfortable. I said 'Are you unable to wear a mask?', next thing I know I had a finger in my face and him warning me not to ask about his medical history! I'm very proud of myself for staying calm and telling him that's not what I was asking and just a simple no would of done! I reported the incident to my manager and used the words 'I have as much right to protect my health as anyone else'. Tbf, an aggressive response is more likely to be from someone who isn't exempt. I absolutely hate wearing a face covering but I do to comply with the law and to maje others feel comfortable. I see quite a few that APPEAR to be fit and healthy but there's absolutely no way I would approach them or approach the shop staff to ask them would they wear one.. Personally, I don't think masks or face coverings do anything but I'll wear one to make others comfortable and so I don't get vicious comments directed at me. " We came to the conclusion people who react the way he did probably should be wearing one. He was with a child as well, great example of human nature to him. | |||
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"OP why were you and your wife both in the CoOp? Don't guidelines say only one from a family should go shopping ? We shop as little as possible carry home a weekly shop, do remember some people can't carry all the shop load. There are others who have disabilitys. And you may also note one shopping at a time is guide lines. MASKS are law. If people have medical issues I have no problem with that, several locals do. This bloke thought it was funny. Looking at the positions your wife is in in your pics I doubt she is disabled. One of you could quite easily have waited outside and still carried the shopping home together " Disabled people can still have sex in a variety of positions. It depends entirely on the disability. Looking at someone's pictures will not tell you anything about their disability or how it affects them. | |||
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"If a person waves an exemption badge, that's fine, you MAY be exempt, not for me to judge, although the government rules may differ on your interpretation of "exempt", however, the rest of us are not IMMUNE !!!! Common sense and we will all be out of this shit much sooner. Stay safe guys. " Badges or any other sort of display is not required and shouldn't be. It is not my place, your place or anyone else's place to judge who is exempt or not | |||
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"So sick of reading posts from people who consider themselves to be clever because they found fellow-conspiracists who assert that (take your pick)... Masks don’t work Lockdowns don’t work The virus is a hoax It’s just the flu They are dying “with” Covid - not because of Covid Please just stop demonstrating your stupidity. There is a big wide world out there and the demonstrable proof is there that as a country we are humiliating ourselves in our reaction to this worldwide pandemic. If everyone who went it into a shop wore a mask properly and sanitised their hands on entry - transmission in supermarkets would drop off the scale. Unfortunately, people don’t sanitise their hands, wear masks incorrectly or refuse to wear them at all. We are suffering more deaths every day than many counties have experienced in their whole pandemic, It's not a conspiracy to say masks don't work. There is no more evidence to say that they do than they don't. Saying people are stupid because they have analysed data differently than you is actually the stupid behaviour. Even the people everyone hold up as 'experts' have never said it is clear there is significant benefit in masks but advise their use because its a low cost, low risk intervention and if it does work then fair enough... Lockdowns demonstrably don't work you cannot and will not ever get rid of a virus from lock down. Yes you can reduce the spread but at what cost? Just because the costs of a lockdown are worth it to you, doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you. Again it doesn't make you smart and them stupid. I get that actual conspiracy theories might be annoying to read but neither of these things are conspiracy theories - they are just a different way of thinking you and it certainly doesn't make people stupid. You point out we have more deaths than many countries - and we DO have and HAVE had lockdown measures. In fact many more measures than numerous other countries with lower rates of reported infection/deaths. I don't know if you see the irony when you say lockdowns work? Presumably you think the british public are less compliant than other countries? It's certainly possible but I'd be interested to see which peer reviewed study showed you that? Until then what you or anyone else thinks is purely speculative so stop pretending you know more than everyone else. conspiracy theory - a belief that some covert but influential organisation is responsible for an unexplained event. Perhaps learn what a word means in future before using it in case you end up looking like one of those stupid people you hate. " | |||
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"If a person waves an exemption badge, that's fine, you MAY be exempt, not for me to judge, although the government rules may differ on your interpretation of "exempt", however, the rest of us are not IMMUNE !!!! Common sense and we will all be out of this shit much sooner. Stay safe guys. Badges or any other sort of display is not required and shouldn't be. It is not my place, your place or anyone else's place to judge who is exempt or not " someone is being a bit judgy for being non judgy. | |||
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"Seen some arrogant prat with no mask on un a local sainsbury shop so annoying and no exemption badge " Only one? Must have been your lucky day! | |||
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"Seen some arrogant prat with no mask on un a local sainsbury shop so annoying and no exemption badge "  WOW!!!! X | |||
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"Supermarkets should have a ‘mask free hour’ once a day for people who can’t or won’t wear a mask so those who want to avoid the maskless can" So what about the staff?x | |||
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"Supermarkets should have a ‘mask free hour’ once a day for people who can’t or won’t wear a mask so those who want to avoid the maskless can So what about the staff?x" Exactly! I'm in a customer facing role and I've told my boss that I'm not prepared to serve anyone who is not wearing a mask, he's fine with that. | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this. This whole turning on each other and monitoring actions makes me feel very uneasy. " | |||
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"Supermarkets should have a ‘mask free hour’ once a day for people who can’t or won’t wear a mask so those who want to avoid the maskless can So what about the staff?x Exactly! I'm in a customer facing role and I've told my boss that I'm not prepared to serve anyone who is not wearing a mask, he's fine with that." I do picking for home shop so up and down the isles in amongst everyone! 21 year old daughter is on self serve in other of the big 2 and has covid must b from there just waiting for my test now so am of but likely I have it 2! Have bad chest thought it was just my asthma x | |||
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"Seen some arrogant prat with no mask on un a local sainsbury shop so annoying and no exemption badge " Where is the exemption badge? The person may be arrogant but you've no idea why he had no mask on and there's absolutely no requirement or actually is an exemption badge. How many exemption badges have you seen? | |||
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"Supermarkets should have a ‘mask free hour’ once a day for people who can’t or won’t wear a mask so those who want to avoid the maskless can" Not at all. Surely, the entire supermarket would have to be cleaned completely after the hour to make it Covid safe | |||
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" Bit of a surprise down the local co op,, bloke walks in no mask. Nearly walked into my wife as he headed to check out. I asked where's his mask? Oopps forgot it he replied, then rushed off to check out. Spoke to manager as to why he and other staff didn't confront him . Was told although what he was doing is ileagle they don't refuse to serve these people and don't police the mask rules. The bloke was touching the food on shelves breathing over the stuff. That didn't make any difference, the manager said,, as MOST of their food is wrapped. What about the rest of most that isn't wrapped? The till staff who had to take payment? The old and vulnerable people who have to shop there. Think Co Op are a bit of a disgrace on this." The COOP aren't the Police. It is unfair and unreasonable to expect their staff to Police mask wearing. | |||
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"I asked him to try and speak clearer as English clearly wasn't his first language but to no avail so politely asked him to fuck off. Lol xx" Why do you find this amusing ? | |||
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"If they challenged the guy then he'd either say he's exempt (no way to prove he's not) or he'd kick off at the staff. After so many months of having to deal with this, I'm not surprised that shops take the easier option and don't engage. " Shop staff have been told they are not the police so they can't confront the law breakers | |||
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"Supermarkets should have a ‘mask free hour’ once a day for people who can’t or won’t wear a mask so those who want to avoid the maskless can" So the people that can't wear one because they are vulnerable and I don't mean clinically are expected to mix with people that are just too selfish to wear one! | |||
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"It wasn’t meant to be light hearted It’s a genuine worry that supposedly rational people are supporting the wearing of badges/lanyards or anything else that is discriminatory and that they feel they have a right to intervene. And people suggesting no mask no shop !! So how are people who are unable to wear a mask supposed to survive and eat. And people say they struggle to see how the average German in the 1930s let the nazi party do what they did. They did it By dividing and separating the population and making reasonable people see unreasonable actions as perfectly acceptable and indeed desirable for the good of the population. There have already been calls all over social media in Scotland to close the borders and stop all flights and prevent people from traveling.and this is an acceptable notion from reasonable people I’m classed as an essential worker and need to travel for my job.yet constantly get told shouldn’t be traveling. I’ve had all the tests and taken all precautions. I genuinely worry where this will stop and how this is going to come to an end. I’m currently in Sweden where there’s no lockdown and no compulsory mask wearing. And a low death death rate. " If anyone doubted what a total idiot you are going down the dangerous route that you have taken, they only have to look at your last sentence! Either you are not on this planet or completely ignorant! Sweden has one of the highest death rates in the world , far higher than all her neighbours put together. The Swedish health service is totally overwhelmed and patients are being taken to Finland. The king, who rarely speaks to the nation addressed the country 3 weeks ago saying how Sweden has failed and the disastrous way in which Sweden has dealt with the pandemic. I'm sure you saw that being in Sweden. The latest death figure is 9433, which is equivalent to 62,257 deaths here (Sweden population 10.2m) so maybe you are in a different country but before posting nonsense, maybe get your facts right? | |||
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"My eldest daughter just dropped some dog food at door as I'm waiting results so cant go shop and she said they trying to make the supermarkets police the mask thing! She said she would volunteer to challenge people! Shes fed up with people as she said some are obvs not exempt instance today was a couple in their twenties with a child shopping neither had a mask if they were exempt why was there 2 in the shop without masks ? One could have stayed outside with child! I said she braver than me I wouldn't challenge anyone! Not that I think u should as I said to her u cant see all disability! But do get her frustration one of her colleagues is in itu and there are so many of with it! My youngest works same supermarket and is of with it at mo there loads of at the one I work at to ! It has to b the biggest place for it to spread! And whilst it's not right non mask wearers shd b ostracized because they cant wear them! Maybe in these times it would b better to get home deliveries! I needed stuff yesterday and found deliveroo can bring u stuff from your local co op just ordered and was here within 20 to 30 mins all in bags left on doorstep amazing! X" That is not what is being proposed they are not asking anybody to challenge anyone for not wearing a mask in fact it is only the police that can. The supermarkets are being asked to monitor numbers in the supermarkets because a lot of them haven't been doing this recently. | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? " Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? " Because the laws and the justifications for the laws are entirely different. Also, medical information is private, age isn't. | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. " I disagree I think they should be challenged and show proof of exemption. This is a serious situation we are all in. Why shouldn't they be asked for proof. | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. I disagree I think they should be challenged and show proof of exemption. This is a serious situation we are all in. Why shouldn't they be asked for proof. " Because someone's medical condition is nobody else as business and the very reason but government have put exemptions in place and made it very clear that no proof should be asked for or given except by the police. | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? " Yes true but that's an age thing not a disability ! X | |||
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"My eldest daughter just dropped some dog food at door as I'm waiting results so cant go shop and she said they trying to make the supermarkets police the mask thing! She said she would volunteer to challenge people! Shes fed up with people as she said some are obvs not exempt instance today was a couple in their twenties with a child shopping neither had a mask if they were exempt why was there 2 in the shop without masks ? One could have stayed outside with child! I said she braver than me I wouldn't challenge anyone! Not that I think u should as I said to her u cant see all disability! But do get her frustration one of her colleagues is in itu and there are so many of with it! My youngest works same supermarket and is of with it at mo there loads of at the one I work at to ! It has to b the biggest place for it to spread! And whilst it's not right non mask wearers shd b ostracized because they cant wear them! Maybe in these times it would b better to get home deliveries! I needed stuff yesterday and found deliveroo can bring u stuff from your local co op just ordered and was here within 20 to 30 mins all in bags left on doorstep amazing! X That is not what is being proposed they are not asking anybody to challenge anyone for not wearing a mask in fact it is only the police that can. The supermarkets are being asked to monitor numbers in the supermarkets because a lot of them haven't been doing this recently." They are allready doing this well sainsbury where I work and tesco where 2 of my girls work they count them in and out x | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. " Yes again and no people with disabilities shd not b challenged ! So what's the answer ? People shd b able to shop/work safely ? X | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. Yes again and no people with disabilities shd not b challenged ! So what's the answer ? People shd b able to shop/work safely ? X" The answer is very clear and that is for people to keep their distance. | |||
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"My eldest daughter just dropped some dog food at door as I'm waiting results so cant go shop and she said they trying to make the supermarkets police the mask thing! She said she would volunteer to challenge people! Shes fed up with people as she said some are obvs not exempt instance today was a couple in their twenties with a child shopping neither had a mask if they were exempt why was there 2 in the shop without masks ? One could have stayed outside with child! I said she braver than me I wouldn't challenge anyone! Not that I think u should as I said to her u cant see all disability! But do get her frustration one of her colleagues is in itu and there are so many of with it! My youngest works same supermarket and is of with it at mo there loads of at the one I work at to ! It has to b the biggest place for it to spread! And whilst it's not right non mask wearers shd b ostracized because they cant wear them! Maybe in these times it would b better to get home deliveries! I needed stuff yesterday and found deliveroo can bring u stuff from your local co op just ordered and was here within 20 to 30 mins all in bags left on doorstep amazing! X That is not what is being proposed they are not asking anybody to challenge anyone for not wearing a mask in fact it is only the police that can. The supermarkets are being asked to monitor numbers in the supermarkets because a lot of them haven't been doing this recently. They are allready doing this well sainsbury where I work and tesco where 2 of my girls work they count them in and out x" Not all are though. | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. Yes again and no people with disabilities shd not b challenged ! So what's the answer ? People shd b able to shop/work safely ? X" I tell u this pain in my chest is not nice! Back and front and only place we been is supermarket! So has to have come from there! X | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. Yes again and no people with disabilities shd not b challenged ! So what's the answer ? People shd b able to shop/work safely ? X The answer is very clear and that is for people to keep their distance." But it's not worked! X | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. Yes again and no people with disabilities shd not b challenged ! So what's the answer ? People shd b able to shop/work safely ? X The answer is very clear and that is for people to keep their distance. But it's not worked! X" But by that logic then neither has mask wearing because the majority of people do wear them but the infection rate is going up. | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. I disagree I think they should be challenged and show proof of exemption. This is a serious situation we are all in. Why shouldn't they be asked for proof. " What proof do you want? Confidential medical records to be given to someone with no medical knowledge whatsoever? No thanks, that's my personal and private information. No one else has the right to see it. | |||
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"I sympathise with shop staff not wanting to confront customers for not wearing masks, then again they absolutely would confront someone who they thought was underage and trying to buy alchohol or cigarettes, in fact they must do so by law, so why not extend that requirement to masks? Because there are exemptions to mask wearing. So if somebody says they are exempt that is the end of the conversation because they cannot challenge someone as to why they are not wearing one and rightly so. The alcohol and cigarettes thing is completely different because there was no exemption what soever for anybody under 18 to be able to purchase them. Yes again and no people with disabilities shd not b challenged ! So what's the answer ? People shd b able to shop/work safely ? X The answer is very clear and that is for people to keep their distance. But it's not worked! X But by that logic then neither has mask wearing because the majority of people do wear them but the infection rate is going up." True! But as I say supermarkets are a spreading ground for it ! Has to be better than no mask though? As I say this pain is awfull first I thought it was my usual asthma chest infection!and people can get food delivered while not ideal if u cant wear one probably for own health as well as others to not visit the store? X | |||
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"I lived/worked for a couple of months in Spain back in the summer. It was compulsory to wear a mask outside of your home 24/7, not just in shops. I had to food shop for myself every few days as I had a tiny fridge in my flat. Not once did I see anybody out on the streets let alone in a shop without a mask on. A couple of times I forgot to put it on getting out of my car, once at a garage paying for fuel & once going into a Lidl, both times I was politely shouted at re. no mask which I quickly put on while apologising. I know they would have called the police if I hadn't put one on & they would have escorted me out of the shop & made me put one on, even arrested me, you don't argue with the Spanish police. So different to here." Pointless saying what other countries do. They follow their model, we follow ours. | |||
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