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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham

First day at it and it's going badly. For starters our internet signal isn't the best, late logging on because of it and it keeps buffering.

Son told to do a PowerPoint, he doesn't know how to, so asked the teacher and the when the teacher finally answered a good 10 minutes later, she simply said draw it on paper instead. What use is that? That's not teaching my son anything. His motivation is now at rock bottom and doesn't see the point. This is only day 1 and I'm back in work tomorrow so not even around to try and help him and motivate him.

These children are suffering and will be for years to come.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham

Any parents out there feeling the same right now?

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin

When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol its hard to take a thread seriously when all I can see it cocks and tits....sorry

Maybe serious threads should be posted without profile pics???? It does make me laugh....what was the question? Lol

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

Children are resilient.

Teachers are given a hard time ,you have one child to teach ...they have a class to keep tabs on.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents. "

it's how i was schooled

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! .... "

Yes, not great is it.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Children are resilient.

Teachers are given a hard time ,you have one child to teach ...they have a class to keep tabs on."

.no one said we only have one child

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham

What the hell is a Power Point?

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents. "

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"What the hell is a Power Point?"

Exactly

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Children are resilient.

Teachers are given a hard time ,you have one child to teach ...they have a class to keep tabs on..no one said we only have one child"

You said son ...singular!

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By *uietlyKinkyUsCouple
over a year ago

midlands

Was the aim, to create a PowerPoint? Or was the work just to be presented on PowerPoint so a paper version would achieve the actual aim?

We've logged in to Google classroom for the first time today, we've not had any actual remote learning previously (year 4) I'm not looking forward to the term via that platform, fortunately the kidlets teacher is just happy any work gets done so as long as some work is submitted each week covering the actual aims, it's all good.

I hope things settle op

Kids should learn the new platforms quick enough. Fingers crossed.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Children are resilient.

Teachers are given a hard time ,you have one child to teach ...they have a class to keep tabs on..no one said we only have one child

You said son ...singular! "

I was referring to my son he was the one having the problem, hence singular.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it."

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Was the aim, to create a PowerPoint? Or was the work just to be presented on PowerPoint so a paper version would achieve the actual aim?

We've logged in to Google classroom for the first time today, we've not had any actual remote learning previously (year 4) I'm not looking forward to the term via that platform, fortunately the kidlets teacher is just happy any work gets done so as long as some work is submitted each week covering the actual aims, it's all good.

I hope things settle op

Kids should learn the new platforms quick enough. Fingers crossed."

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Was the aim, to create a PowerPoint? Or was the work just to be presented on PowerPoint so a paper version would achieve the actual aim?

We've logged in to Google classroom for the first time today, we've not had any actual remote learning previously (year 4) I'm not looking forward to the term via that platform, fortunately the kidlets teacher is just happy any work gets done so as long as some work is submitted each week covering the actual aims, it's all good.

I hope things settle op

Kids should learn the new platforms quick enough. Fingers crossed."

Thank you. I hope so. I think children need to focus on maths and English, and perhaps not put themselves under too much pressure for subjects such as art and cookery.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb "

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

have you looked for tutorials aimed at kids on how to use the tech that's needed for distance learning? i'm not trying to be sanctimonious just trying to help. my youngest struggled to begin with in uni but after taking a very short time to get to grips with the tech and learning methods needed they settled into it and started to excel.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"have you looked for tutorials aimed at kids on how to use the tech that's needed for distance learning? i'm not trying to be sanctimonious just trying to help. my youngest struggled to begin with in uni but after taking a very short time to get to grips with the tech and learning methods needed they settled into it and started to excel."

Yes that is my plan tonight when I have some peace and quiet. Thank you

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By *onglegs888Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs"

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !"

Yes, totally agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !"

This day one! Give them a chance.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !"

quite probably crash learning how to use the tech and to create viable methods of providing distance learning to children themselves. just a thought.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !"

Zoom would perhaps be more beneficial to students,face to face connection is important. I know in a classroom setting it doesn't take a teacher 10 minutes to answer a question. It's stressful for everyone but it's the children that will suffer. That's not an issue for the teachers at the end of the day as they aren't there to see the outcome in years to come. They do their job as the beat they can, we all know that.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !"

Probably planning and recording tomorrow's lessons, we had this when our class were self isolating

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"First day at it and it's going badly. For starters our internet signal isn't the best, late logging on because of it and it keeps buffering.

Son told to do a PowerPoint, he doesn't know how to, so asked the teacher and the when the teacher finally answered a good 10 minutes later, she simply said draw it on paper instead. What use is that? That's not teaching my son anything. His motivation is now at rock bottom and doesn't see the point. This is only day 1 and I'm back in work tomorrow so not even around to try and help him and motivate him.

These children are suffering and will be for years to come."

It's going to get a whole lot tougher and as parents it's our job to make it work for our kids.... And that includes keeping motivation high and not giving up after less than a day.

Don't give up... Keep going. Help them draw it using pencil and paper. And move on.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! .... "

I know right!!!!!! Jesus

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By *onglegs888Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

This day one! Give them a chance.

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It’s not really tho is it... it’s quite far into it all and they’ve had a few practices.

Plus there is still no answer to that question. My son had double science this morning 9-11. Until last week a teacher would have been stood in front of him in a classroom. Where is that teacher today and what is he/she doing?

And ‘lesson prep’ doesn’t wash with me before anyone pulls that one out ...

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over a year ago


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be."

How many pupils are in his class? Might his teacher have been dealing with other queries?

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !"

This was only announced at 8pm last night ...give them a chance .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

This day one! Give them a chance.

It’s not really tho is it... it’s quite far into it all and they’ve had a few practices.

Plus there is still no answer to that question. My son had double science this morning 9-11. Until last week a teacher would have been stood in front of him in a classroom. Where is that teacher today and what is he/she doing?

And ‘lesson prep’ doesn’t wash with me before anyone pulls that one out ..."

I think you need to have a little patience and understanding! How do you know the teacher isn't sick, Or has children of their own. Maybe less judgement and more understanding is what is needed.

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By *onglegs888Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

quite probably crash learning how to use the tech and to create viable methods of providing distance learning to children themselves. just a thought."

Crash learning how to use zoom? How to share a screen via zoom... nonsense... if a teacher can’t do that j dint want em near my kid

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"First day at it and it's going badly. For starters our internet signal isn't the best, late logging on because of it and it keeps buffering.

Son told to do a PowerPoint, he doesn't know how to, so asked the teacher and the when the teacher finally answered a good 10 minutes later, she simply said draw it on paper instead. What use is that? That's not teaching my son anything. His motivation is now at rock bottom and doesn't see the point. This is only day 1 and I'm back in work tomorrow so not even around to try and help him and motivate him.

These children are suffering and will be for years to come.

It's going to get a whole lot tougher and as parents it's our job to make it work for our kids.... And that includes keeping motivation high and not giving up after less than a day.

Don't give up... Keep going. Help them draw it using pencil and paper. And move on. "

And it could be teaching your son loads of things... Self sufficiency, resilience, problem solving patience, all skills that will help them.... Kids are brilliant.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

This was only announced at 8pm last night ...give them a chance .

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Exactly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

This day one! Give them a chance.

It’s not really tho is it... it’s quite far into it all and they’ve had a few practices.

Plus there is still no answer to that question. My son had double science this morning 9-11. Until last week a teacher would have been stood in front of him in a classroom. Where is that teacher today and what is he/she doing?

And ‘lesson prep’ doesn’t wash with me before anyone pulls that one out ..."

Preparing online materials for every other class they teach?

The lack of empathy people have for teachers is staggering. Myopic beyond belief.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

quite probably crash learning how to use the tech and to create viable methods of providing distance learning to children themselves. just a thought.

Crash learning how to use zoom? How to share a screen via zoom... nonsense... if a teacher can’t do that j dint want em near my kid"

So why are you moaning then because it seems that's what you want?

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham

I think everyone unders_ands it's difficult for everyone. My point I was making was children will suffer.

This isn't a teacher bashing thread so please don't take it that way.

My concern is for the children and their future.

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By *osebud6688Woman
over a year ago

Northampton

Wow - the entitlement. I sympathise with the teachers if this is representative of parents attitudes.

I’d imagine they are stretched very thinly trying to cover every base with minimal notice.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !"

Well today I have been teaching via zoom for two hours, I’ve taught five adults how to use zoom, I’ve completed track and trace information to enable us to isolate properly for the portion of my class that are in school, I’ve marked the work submitted to me yesterday, recorded 3 lessons for tomorrow and am trying to plan for the rest of the week. I’ve had to call 45 families as they haven’t logged into zoom and also try and compete some assessments to ensure I’m pitching this terms work correctly. I’ve also had many many emails from parents like you assuming I’m sitting on my arse drinking coffee. I started at 7 and now I’m done your comment is just awful.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It is one day and one 10 minute interval I don't think any child is actually going to suffer long term because of that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think everyone unders_ands it's difficult for everyone. My point I was making was children will suffer.

This isn't a teacher bashing thread so please don't take it that way.

My concern is for the children and their future."

Then give schools the opportunity to get things up and running before tearing the arse out of them

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

Well today I have been teaching via zoom for two hours, I’ve taught five adults how to use zoom, I’ve completed track and trace information to enable us to isolate properly for the portion of my class that are in school, I’ve marked the work submitted to me yesterday, recorded 3 lessons for tomorrow and am trying to plan for the rest of the week. I’ve had to call 45 families as they haven’t logged into zoom and also try and compete some assessments to ensure I’m pitching this terms work correctly. I’ve also had many many emails from parents like you assuming I’m sitting on my arse drinking coffee. I started at 7 and now I’m done your comment is just awful. "

Well done and keep up the good work. X

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

there's other tech available such as evenium, radix, brain cert, blackboard collaborate. this kind of tech is highly successful in universities globally which much larger numbers of students involved than the edwardian school model that is the norm today.

when the virus has abated there's a high probability that at least partial distance learning will remain the norm.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"It is one day and one 10 minute interval I don't think any child is actually going to suffer long term because of that."

Home schooling is for weeks though. That's my concern.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

Well today I have been teaching via zoom for two hours, I’ve taught five adults how to use zoom, I’ve completed track and trace information to enable us to isolate properly for the portion of my class that are in school, I’ve marked the work submitted to me yesterday, recorded 3 lessons for tomorrow and am trying to plan for the rest of the week. I’ve had to call 45 families as they haven’t logged into zoom and also try and compete some assessments to ensure I’m pitching this terms work correctly. I’ve also had many many emails from parents like you assuming I’m sitting on my arse drinking coffee. I started at 7 and now I’m done your comment is just awful. "

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Was the aim, to create a PowerPoint? Or was the work just to be presented on PowerPoint so a paper version would achieve the actual aim?

We've logged in to Google classroom for the first time today, we've not had any actual remote learning previously (year 4) I'm not looking forward to the term via that platform, fortunately the kidlets teacher is just happy any work gets done so as long as some work is submitted each week covering the actual aims, it's all good.

I hope things settle op

Kids should learn the new platforms quick enough. Fingers crossed."

Kids can learn a new game in seconds... Connect to WiFi in seconds... Break the firewall in seconds... I'm sure they can work out video calling and url links.

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"I think everyone unders_ands it's difficult for everyone. My point I was making was children will suffer.

This isn't a teacher bashing thread so please don't take it that way.

My concern is for the children and their future."

I fail to see how children will suffer?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is one day and one 10 minute interval I don't think any child is actually going to suffer long term because of that.

Home schooling is for weeks though. That's my concern."

Give them a chance rather than moaning and coming across as rather entitled.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"I think everyone unders_ands it's difficult for everyone. My point I was making was children will suffer.

This isn't a teacher bashing thread so please don't take it that way.

My concern is for the children and their future.

Then give schools the opportunity to get things up and running before tearing the arse out of them"

Nobody tore arse out of anyone.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

This day one! Give them a chance.

It’s not really tho is it... it’s quite far into it all and they’ve had a few practices.

Plus there is still no answer to that question. My son had double science this morning 9-11. Until last week a teacher would have been stood in front of him in a classroom. Where is that teacher today and what is he/she doing?

And ‘lesson prep’ doesn’t wash with me before anyone pulls that one out ..."

You ever planned a lesson for 32 children all with different needs so in actual fact one 45 min lesson is in reality about four depends on the range of ability in that class. There are usually 4-6 sessions in one day. All of this was announced at 8pm last night so that’s a whole lot of planning out the window and start again.

Why don’t you volunteer in a school when all this is over and see what work teachers actually do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think everyone unders_ands it's difficult for everyone. My point I was making was children will suffer.

This isn't a teacher bashing thread so please don't take it that way.

My concern is for the children and their future.

Then give schools the opportunity to get things up and running before tearing the arse out of them

Nobody tore arse out of anyone. "

You have hardly been understanding or patient though have you?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe stop treating schools as a babysitter and do your job as a parent......im a single parent and im loving lockdown....dont put any pressure on him...few hours a day but plenty of playtime because its not the kids fault or the teachers.....or....the government!!! No one could see how bad this was gonna be....just grit your teeth and get through it....summer is on the way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I think everyone unders_ands it's difficult for everyone. My point I was making was children will suffer.

This isn't a teacher bashing thread so please don't take it that way.

My concern is for the children and their future.

Then give schools the opportunity to get things up and running before tearing the arse out of them

Nobody tore arse out of anyone. "

I'll refer you back to your OP and you thinking waiting 10 mins for a response is unacceptable

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Maybe stop treating schools as a babysitter and do your job as a parent......im a single parent and im loving lockdown....dont put any pressure on him...few hours a day but plenty of playtime because its not the kids fault or the teachers.....or....the government!!! No one could see how bad this was gonna be....just grit your teeth and get through it....summer is on the way"

I've already eased the pressure on him by saying to focus on maths and English and not worry too much. It's about finding a right balance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too."

This comment says it all to honest! Children should not be seen as an infliction.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"I think everyone unders_ands it's difficult for everyone. My point I was making was children will suffer.

This isn't a teacher bashing thread so please don't take it that way.

My concern is for the children and their future.

Then give schools the opportunity to get things up and running before tearing the arse out of them

Nobody tore arse out of anyone.

I'll refer you back to your OP and you thinking waiting 10 mins for a response is unacceptable "

I did find it unacceptable in a 30 minute lesson. Sorry if you don't like my opinion. It isn't meant to offend, I'm just stating a fact.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too.

This comment says it all to honest! Children should not be seen as an infliction."

Exactly right. But parents holding down full time jobs can not be at home to he teach. That's a fact.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham

If we had little ones still , now would definitely be the time to home school, we looked into it before. You can claim the funding and customise the curriculum to include useful things. All the home schooled kids we know have turned out great, balanced, secure, kind, and definitely smart enough , at least till 16/18 there’s no need for school. So many teachers are political or burned out nowadays and they have to deal with so much they can’t do a decent job, We wouldn’t send our kids in.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too.

This comment says it all to honest! Children should not be seen as an infliction.

Exactly right. But parents holding down full time jobs can not be at home to he teach. That's a fact."

But that's what you are expecting the teacher to do aren't you?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be."

It seems you're not very bought into home schooling. Kids will pick up on that sentiment very quickly. Somehow you've got to get past it, like anything else you get our what you put in and not suggesting it's easy at all... But you have to find a way of making it work as well as you can for your kids. It's not a rehearsal.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too.

This comment says it all to honest! Children should not be seen as an infliction.

Exactly right. But parents holding down full time jobs can not be at home to he teach. That's a fact."

Wow!!!!!

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too.

This comment says it all to honest! Children should not be seen as an infliction.

Exactly right. But parents holding down full time jobs can not be at home to he teach. That's a fact.

Wow!!!!! "

Please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean?

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"For starters our internet signal isn't the best, late logging on because of it and it keeps buffering."

it's worth running an internet speedcheck using ookla to see what's happening with your connection from your provider. run it a few times during the day to get an aggregate. use your ethernet cable instead of wifi. turn off other devices in the home to increase bandwidth to your childs device. also worth checking the spec on the device in question to see if you can expand the ram etc. hope this helps a little

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It is one day and one 10 minute interval I don't think any child is actually going to suffer long term because of that.

Home schooling is for weeks though. That's my concern."

When I was a kid, I had a few episodes of weeks off school due to illness and a chemical contamination at my primary school (unrelated).

To the extent I could I worked from home. To the extent I couldn't, I caught up later. I learned about independent learning and catching up, resilience. I did this without the internet. (During the contamination cleanup my mum took me to the library at one point)

The kids are all in the same boat. That'll help.

As with all things, this pandemic is about making choices between bad things. School is ideal, but is too high risk at this time. Not least for the teachers.

I'm glad your son has parents who care about his education. That puts him ahead of some of his peers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too.

This comment says it all to honest! Children should not be seen as an infliction.

Exactly right. But parents holding down full time jobs can not be at home to he teach. That's a fact.

Wow!!!!!

Please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean?"

Have you not read this lady's comments?

You really need to rethink your priorities!

You are saying you cannot work full time and look after children and home school. Do you know how many teachers have children?

Like many have said your attitude smacks of entitlement.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"For starters our internet signal isn't the best, late logging on because of it and it keeps buffering.

it's worth running an internet speedcheck using ookla to see what's happening with your connection from your provider. run it a few times during the day to get an aggregate. use your ethernet cable instead of wifi. turn off other devices in the home to increase bandwidth to your childs device. also worth checking the spec on the device in question to see if you can expand the ram etc. hope this helps a little

"

Thank you. It's down to the remote location of where we live and the weather. Works well when there sun shines

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too.

This comment says it all to honest! Children should not be seen as an infliction.

Exactly right. But parents holding down full time jobs can not be at home to he teach. That's a fact.

Wow!!!!!

Please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean?

Have you not read this lady's comments?

You really need to rethink your priorities!

You are saying you cannot work full time and look after children and home school. Do you know how many teachers have children?

Like many have said your attitude smacks of entitlement."

I was replying to the comment I made about me being home schooled. My parents had full time jobs so couldn't of done home schooling. I fail to see how that makes me entitled.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"It is one day and one 10 minute interval I don't think any child is actually going to suffer long term because of that.

Home schooling is for weeks though. That's my concern.

When I was a kid, I had a few episodes of weeks off school due to illness and a chemical contamination at my primary school (unrelated).

To the extent I could I worked from home. To the extent I couldn't, I caught up later. I learned about independent learning and catching up, resilience. I did this without the internet. (During the contamination cleanup my mum took me to the library at one point)

The kids are all in the same boat. That'll help.

As with all things, this pandemic is about making choices between bad things. School is ideal, but is too high risk at this time. Not least for the teachers.

I'm glad your son has parents who care about his education. That puts him ahead of some of his peers."

Thank you. I just want the best for my children. If that makes me a bad person, then so be it.

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too.

This comment says it all to honest! Children should not be seen as an infliction.

Exactly right. But parents holding down full time jobs can not be at home to he teach. That's a fact."

You made the choice to have children, stop with the self entitlement attitude and decide what's important to you.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Wow - the entitlement. I sympathise with the teachers if this is representative of parents attitudes.

I’d imagine they are stretched very thinly trying to cover every base with minimal notice."

The thing is... Ultimately they are our kids..

Not the teachers kids. So it's in our interests.. Indeed it's our responsibility in this pandemic to do things differently and make the best of a really shitty situation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Mine aren't "suffering".

Infact having a great time with personal focus. I'd have loved to be at home learning with my parents.

I would of hated to of inflicted that extra pressure on my parents whilst they had full time jobs to hold down too.

This comment says it all to honest! Children should not be seen as an infliction.

Exactly right. But parents holding down full time jobs can not be at home to he teach. That's a fact.

Wow!!!!!

Please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean?

Have you not read this lady's comments?

You really need to rethink your priorities!

You are saying you cannot work full time and look after children and home school. Do you know how many teachers have children?

Like many have said your attitude smacks of entitlement.

I was replying to the comment I made about me being home schooled. My parents had full time jobs so couldn't of done home schooling. I fail to see how that makes me entitled."

Your comment about having to wait 10 minutes and the fact that Parents who work full time shouldn't have to home school is very entitled and if you don't see that then that is a problem.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"It is one day and one 10 minute interval I don't think any child is actually going to suffer long term because of that.

Home schooling is for weeks though. That's my concern.

When I was a kid, I had a few episodes of weeks off school due to illness and a chemical contamination at my primary school (unrelated).

To the extent I could I worked from home. To the extent I couldn't, I caught up later. I learned about independent learning and catching up, resilience. I did this without the internet. (During the contamination cleanup my mum took me to the library at one point)

The kids are all in the same boat. That'll help.

As with all things, this pandemic is about making choices between bad things. School is ideal, but is too high risk at this time. Not least for the teachers.

I'm glad your son has parents who care about his education. That puts him ahead of some of his peers.

Thank you. I just want the best for my children. If that makes me a bad person, then so be it."

I do think you should be mindful of what the teachers are going through. But most of the kids will be OK.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It is one day and one 10 minute interval I don't think any child is actually going to suffer long term because of that.

Home schooling is for weeks though. That's my concern.

When I was a kid, I had a few episodes of weeks off school due to illness and a chemical contamination at my primary school (unrelated).

To the extent I could I worked from home. To the extent I couldn't, I caught up later. I learned about independent learning and catching up, resilience. I did this without the internet. (During the contamination cleanup my mum took me to the library at one point)

The kids are all in the same boat. That'll help.

As with all things, this pandemic is about making choices between bad things. School is ideal, but is too high risk at this time. Not least for the teachers.

I'm glad your son has parents who care about his education. That puts him ahead of some of his peers.

Thank you. I just want the best for my children. If that makes me a bad person, then so be it."

A good parent teaches child patients and understanding of others situations not just concern for their own.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

quite probably crash learning how to use the tech and to create viable methods of providing distance learning to children themselves. just a thought.

Crash learning how to use zoom? How to share a screen via zoom... nonsense... if a teacher can’t do that j dint want em near my kid"

Some teachers are not good with IT. I spent 90 minutes teaching two teachers every thing they need to know about Zoom this morning. The important thing though is that they know how to teach French.

Yesterday we spent all day (wasted) planning "testing" in preparation for kids starting on Wednesday, today we've been trying to organise resources and home learning stuff so we can run "online lessons" tomorrow. I've already had a "dozen or so" emails from parents who need a loan laptop because they haven't got one. I've also needed to set up a load of classrooms for teachers to teach their zoom lessons from, and organise rooms with where "key worker's" kids can access the zoom lessons.

Cal

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham

Ok folks. This seems to be a very raw subject for all of us. I'm a Mum who saw her child struggling today and getting stressed, and didn't seem to get the support he needed. That is a heart wrenching situation.

Some of you are teachers who are also struggling. That too is also heart wrenching.

We are all struggling so at least be kind in your comments and don't make it personal to anyone on here please.

Comments in general about education etc are fine, but let's keep it civil.

As for me I'm off to look at PowerPoint and make a rhubarb crumble

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Blimey everything turns into a bitchfest on here doesn't it?

Well OP I'm going to struggle to with my yr10 and yr12 children. The work they do (which hasn't been sent yet ~ not a dig btw, they weren't due back till next week) is way over my head.

It will all work out in the end. Be positive

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


" Thank you. It's down to the remote location of where we live and the weather. Works well when there sun shines "

there will be other factors. if your connection speed is persistantly less than you pay for the service provider is obliged to sort it. i lived in a very rural location and openreach replaced 2 miles of new copper cable just to our house alone without batting an eyelid. broadband speed increased dramatically. last year we approached our ISP and found they had a broadband package available to us for significantly less money than we were paying. now the connection is superb. don't forget though, the connection speed is only as good as the processing speed of the device.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why is everyone saying give them a chance? This remote learning shit has been around since the first lol down and they still haven't worked out how to use it properly? Ah well never mind they'll work it out, maybe just in time for them to return to school anyway, and fuck it who cares, it's only education and the future of an entire generation being fucked up here.

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin

I’m going to try and make this as clear as I can .... in Scotland our schools do not go back until tomorrow yet we have “worked” at home yesterday and today unpaid to try and get things as sorted as we can. Our school has over 2000 pupils, we will be working on a rota system in school teaching for key-worker and vulnerable children whilst working on-line for every other child. In addition we are delivering lunches to pupils who receive free lunches and have not taken a place at the hub, we are in contact daily with the vulnerable children who have not taken a place at the hub, we are marking the work set on-line every night and setting new work for the next day. We are doing our best !!’ So if my kids teacher didn’t respond to a question he/she asked for the entire day I would say they must be rushed off their damn feet and me as a parent would assist them. I also would like to add that your child is not going to suffer being off school a further few week (or for ever long it takes until we can get through this) my child was off school for a year due to a serious illness and despite us having full time jobs and another two kids she has graduated at University !! If it were me I would have helped them not gone onto a swinging site and moaned, ultimately they are your responsibility.

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By *onglegs888Couple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Why is everyone saying give them a chance? This remote learning shit has been around since the first lol down and they still haven't worked out how to use it properly? Ah well never mind they'll work it out, maybe just in time for them to return to school anyway, and fuck it who cares, it's only education and the future of an entire generation being fucked up here. "

I’m expecting it to be ‘worked out’ just In time for a 2 or 6 week holiday....

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over a year ago


"I’m going to try and make this as clear as I can .... in Scotland our schools do not go back until tomorrow yet we have “worked” at home yesterday and today unpaid to try and get things as sorted as we can. Our school has over 2000 pupils, we will be working on a rota system in school teaching for key-worker and vulnerable children whilst working on-line for every other child. In addition we are delivering lunches to pupils who receive free lunches and have not taken a place at the hub, we are in contact daily with the vulnerable children who have not taken a place at the hub, we are marking the work set on-line every night and setting new work for the next day. We are doing our best !!’ So if my kids teacher didn’t respond to a question he/she asked for the entire day I would say they must be rushed off their damn feet and me as a parent would assist them. I also would like to add that your child is not going to suffer being off school a further few week (or for ever long it takes until we can get through this) my child was off school for a year due to a serious illness and despite us having full time jobs and another two kids she has graduated at University !! If it were me I would have helped them not gone onto a swinging site and moaned, ultimately they are your responsibility. "

Exactly! No time to home school though!

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over a year ago

The only thing that niggles me about all this is that the government assumes all kids have access to computers and broadband which isnt always the case. Schools can have all the excellent provision in the world but its no good if your kid doesnt have a screen for the whole of the school day. Our school were going to sign up to a hire to buy scheme for laptops that hasnt materialised.

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By *osebud6688Woman
over a year ago

Northampton


"I’m going to try and make this as clear as I can .... in Scotland our schools do not go back until tomorrow yet we have “worked” at home yesterday and today unpaid to try and get things as sorted as we can. Our school has over 2000 pupils, we will be working on a rota system in school teaching for key-worker and vulnerable children whilst working on-line for every other child. In addition we are delivering lunches to pupils who receive free lunches and have not taken a place at the hub, we are in contact daily with the vulnerable children who have not taken a place at the hub, we are marking the work set on-line every night and setting new work for the next day. We are doing our best !!’ So if my kids teacher didn’t respond to a question he/she asked for the entire day I would say they must be rushed off their damn feet and me as a parent would assist them. I also would like to add that your child is not going to suffer being off school a further few week (or for ever long it takes until we can get through this) my child was off school for a year due to a serious illness and despite us having full time jobs and another two kids she has graduated at University !! If it were me I would have helped them not gone onto a swinging site and moaned, ultimately they are your responsibility.

Exactly! No time to home school though!"

Totally agree! Entitlement and lack of accountability is rife in the parents of today it seems.

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over a year ago


"The only thing that niggles me about all this is that the government assumes all kids have access to computers and broadband which isnt always the case. Schools can have all the excellent provision in the world but its no good if your kid doesnt have a screen for the whole of the school day. Our school were going to sign up to a hire to buy scheme for laptops that hasnt materialised. "

Now that is a real issue and something that does need addressing.

The school i work for have been able to provide whats needed but unfortunately not all have.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Why is everyone saying give them a chance? This remote learning shit has been around since the first lol down and they still haven't worked out how to use it properly? Ah well never mind they'll work it out, maybe just in time for them to return to school anyway, and fuck it who cares, it's only education and the future of an entire generation being fucked up here. "

Because they were planning for in person like everyone else was, and were thrown into chaos at the eleventh hour?

If you think educational provision is inadequate then supplement it yourself. Or give them a day or week or two to hit their stride. Plenty of kids have missed weeks or months of school (without all their peers suffering similar disruption) and survived, even thrived. Myself included.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The only thing that niggles me about all this is that the government assumes all kids have access to computers and broadband which isnt always the case. Schools can have all the excellent provision in the world but its no good if your kid doesnt have a screen for the whole of the school day. Our school were going to sign up to a hire to buy scheme for laptops that hasnt materialised. "

Yes. That troubles me enormously.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit. "

I'm with you on the eldest. Mine has been brilliant till yesterday when they cancelled a level exams.... His motivation dropped through the floor. It's tough for them... But we just have to keep doing our best.

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss


"Why is everyone saying give them a chance? This remote learning shit has been around since the first lol down and they still haven't worked out how to use it properly? Ah well never mind they'll work it out, maybe just in time for them to return to school anyway, and fuck it who cares, it's only education and the future of an entire generation being fucked up here.

Because they were planning for in person like everyone else was, and were thrown into chaos at the eleventh hour?

If you think educational provision is inadequate then supplement it yourself. Or give them a day or week or two to hit their stride. Plenty of kids have missed weeks or months of school (without all their peers suffering similar disruption) and survived, even thrived. Myself included. "

We are not home schooling this time round, we didn't do it first lockdown either, I'd rather have a happy child return to school than a stressed out one, I'm a parent not a curriculum educator so we will learn life skills instead

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
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over a year ago

My Own Little World


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

Well today I have been teaching via zoom for two hours, I’ve taught five adults how to use zoom, I’ve completed track and trace information to enable us to isolate properly for the portion of my class that are in school, I’ve marked the work submitted to me yesterday, recorded 3 lessons for tomorrow and am trying to plan for the rest of the week. I’ve had to call 45 families as they haven’t logged into zoom and also try and compete some assessments to ensure I’m pitching this terms work correctly. I’ve also had many many emails from parents like you assuming I’m sitting on my arse drinking coffee. I started at 7 and now I’m done your comment is just awful. "

I for one thank you for your hard work and patience. Even though I think we all knew remote learning was on the cards, it being dumped on you last minute must be a bloody nightmare.

My 16yr old had their 1st full, day of online lessons today, and has now gone back to bed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is everyone saying give them a chance? This remote learning shit has been around since the first lol down and they still haven't worked out how to use it properly? Ah well never mind they'll work it out, maybe just in time for them to return to school anyway, and fuck it who cares, it's only education and the future of an entire generation being fucked up here.

Because they were planning for in person like everyone else was, and were thrown into chaos at the eleventh hour?

If you think educational provision is inadequate then supplement it yourself. Or give them a day or week or two to hit their stride. Plenty of kids have missed weeks or months of school (without all their peers suffering similar disruption) and survived, even thrived. Myself included.

We are not home schooling this time round, we didn't do it first lockdown either, I'd rather have a happy child return to school than a stressed out one, I'm a parent not a curriculum educator so we will learn life skills instead "

That is what a lot of schools are encouraging. You don't need to be a teacher just a parent. X

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Why is everyone saying give them a chance? This remote learning shit has been around since the first lol down and they still haven't worked out how to use it properly? Ah well never mind they'll work it out, maybe just in time for them to return to school anyway, and fuck it who cares, it's only education and the future of an entire generation being fucked up here.

Because they were planning for in person like everyone else was, and were thrown into chaos at the eleventh hour?

If you think educational provision is inadequate then supplement it yourself. Or give them a day or week or two to hit their stride. Plenty of kids have missed weeks or months of school (without all their peers suffering similar disruption) and survived, even thrived. Myself included.

We are not home schooling this time round, we didn't do it first lockdown either, I'd rather have a happy child return to school than a stressed out one, I'm a parent not a curriculum educator so we will learn life skills instead "

When I had time off I didn't learn curriculum either (no school checkup at all, lol). I did do academic stuff, but I did better that way, always have. But according to what my parents gave me not state dictated stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There was no eleventh hour, the remote learning system has been around since the beginning, mistakes then are fair enough, now nearly a year later is not acceptable. This situation has been on going and susceptible to change since the beginning, not being prepared for sudden change in their job is no ones fault except the educational system and the teachers. Yes it's difficult, but ultimately is not the teachers who futures are damaged by this situation,its the children's. People need to realise that teachers and the educational system right now have a much bigger task on their hands than just teaching, they have to ensure that a whole generation of children actually get the education they deserve.

And a side note for parents, do whatever you can to fucking help, they can only do so much, you have to fill in the gaps however you can, the internet is a vast source of information that can help YOU teach your children with.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"There was no eleventh hour, the remote learning system has been around since the beginning, mistakes then are fair enough, now nearly a year later is not acceptable. This situation has been on going and susceptible to change since the beginning, not being prepared for sudden change in their job is no ones fault except the educational system and the teachers. Yes it's difficult, but ultimately is not the teachers who futures are damaged by this situation,its the children's. People need to realise that teachers and the educational system right now have a much bigger task on their hands than just teaching, they have to ensure that a whole generation of children actually get the education they deserve.

And a side note for parents, do whatever you can to fucking help, they can only do so much, you have to fill in the gaps however you can, the internet is a vast source of information that can help YOU teach your children with. "

Maybe we should teach kids resilience, making do, and gratitude for what we have

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Why is everyone saying give them a chance? This remote learning shit has been around since the first lol down and they still haven't worked out how to use it properly? Ah well never mind they'll work it out, maybe just in time for them to return to school anyway, and fuck it who cares, it's only education and the future of an entire generation being fucked up here.

Because they were planning for in person like everyone else was, and were thrown into chaos at the eleventh hour?

If you think educational provision is inadequate then supplement it yourself. Or give them a day or week or two to hit their stride. Plenty of kids have missed weeks or months of school (without all their peers suffering similar disruption) and survived, even thrived. Myself included.

We are not home schooling this time round, we didn't do it first lockdown either, I'd rather have a happy child return to school than a stressed out one, I'm a parent not a curriculum educator so we will learn life skills instead

That is what a lot of schools are encouraging. You don't need to be a teacher just a parent. X"

I think that's one of the issues.. "be a parent" means very different things to different people. And in normal times that's been OK. The pandemic and its consequences have put a magnifying glass on what people feel entitled to and responsible for.

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By *igh wide and handsomeMan
over a year ago

Dagenham

My children are treating it as an extended xmas break.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !"

Have you thought that the teacher of those classes might have their own children at home?? Have you tried to deliver an online lesson from home with a small child or children around? I have and it's an absolute nightmare. My 3yo was home throughout the first lockdown March to June and I continued to teach among her needing the toilet, wanting me to play, crying etc. Teacher's own children are also off school, potentially!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why is everyone saying give them a chance? This remote learning shit has been around since the first lol down and they still haven't worked out how to use it properly? Ah well never mind they'll work it out, maybe just in time for them to return to school anyway, and fuck it who cares, it's only education and the future of an entire generation being fucked up here.

Because they were planning for in person like everyone else was, and were thrown into chaos at the eleventh hour?

If you think educational provision is inadequate then supplement it yourself. Or give them a day or week or two to hit their stride. Plenty of kids have missed weeks or months of school (without all their peers suffering similar disruption) and survived, even thrived. Myself included.

We are not home schooling this time round, we didn't do it first lockdown either, I'd rather have a happy child return to school than a stressed out one, I'm a parent not a curriculum educator so we will learn life skills instead

That is what a lot of schools are encouraging. You don't need to be a teacher just a parent. X

I think that's one of the issues.. "be a parent" means very different things to different people. And in normal times that's been OK. The pandemic and its consequences have put a magnifying glass on what people feel entitled to and responsible for. "

I agree, its definitely high lighted peoples priorities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

I'm with you on the eldest. Mine has been brilliant till yesterday when they cancelled a level exams.... His motivation dropped through the floor. It's tough for them... But we just have to keep doing our best. "

That must be so hard, same for yr 11's, as there isnt a reason now to do any work is there, such a shame.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

Have you thought that the teacher of those classes might have their own children at home?? Have you tried to deliver an online lesson from home with a small child or children around? I have and it's an absolute nightmare. My 3yo was home throughout the first lockdown March to June and I continued to teach among her needing the toilet, wanting me to play, crying etc. Teacher's own children are also off school, potentially!"

I mentioned this further up but it was ignored by the OP.

It was actually you guys I was thinking about when I posted it.

You are doing a brilliant job by the way.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney

perhaps the lack of planning over the last year by the ex-pottery salesman masquerading as an education expert at the head of the ministry for education is culpable in some way. just a thought

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

Have you thought that the teacher of those classes might have their own children at home?? Have you tried to deliver an online lesson from home with a small child or children around? I have and it's an absolute nightmare. My 3yo was home throughout the first lockdown March to June and I continued to teach among her needing the toilet, wanting me to play, crying etc. Teacher's own children are also off school, potentially!

I mentioned this further up but it was ignored by the OP.

It was actually you guys I was thinking about when I posted it.

You are doing a brilliant job by the way. "

Thanks. Wish us luck, our lot are doing online assessments for end of semester one starting Monday. We also have a new intake starting induction on Monday and I need to rip up my timetables and start again for the all-online system. Our online lessons start again on the 18th. I'm thankful nursery is open this time, so no little helper trying to sabotage my biology lessons

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

I'm with you on the eldest. Mine has been brilliant till yesterday when they cancelled a level exams.... His motivation dropped through the floor. It's tough for them... But we just have to keep doing our best.

That must be so hard, same for yr 11's, as there isnt a reason now to do any work is there, such a shame. "

No opportunities to improve predicted grades, no clarity over uni entry process, no uni when you get there... Its tough on older kids right now.... We parents got to work harder than ever to keep them motivated.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford

My son is a primary teacher, today would have been his first day back in class after the holidays ; he had lessons planned, work sorted, books on desks in his classroom.

At 9 last night he got a call from his headteacher telling him he had to teach online from today !

no wonder today is a bit of chaos, give them chance and i am sure it will get sorted, they are doing their best and a reduced curriculum for a while can be caught up.

If the kids catch it, or the teachers do the disruption may be worse

OR FATAL !!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"My son is a primary teacher, today would have been his first day back in class after the holidays ; he had lessons planned, work sorted, books on desks in his classroom.

At 9 last night he got a call from his headteacher telling him he had to teach online from today !

no wonder today is a bit of chaos, give them chance and i am sure it will get sorted, they are doing their best and a reduced curriculum for a while can be caught up.

If the kids catch it, or the teachers do the disruption may be worse

OR FATAL !!!"

I appreciate him.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"The only thing that niggles me about all this is that the government assumes all kids have access to computers and broadband which isnt always the case. Schools can have all the excellent provision in the world but its no good if your kid doesnt have a screen for the whole of the school day. Our school were going to sign up to a hire to buy scheme for laptops that hasnt materialised. "

hi, have you checked the free laptop scheme which is being rolled out currently to see if you might qualify for assistance? it may be worth a look.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My son is a primary teacher, today would have been his first day back in class after the holidays ; he had lessons planned, work sorted, books on desks in his classroom.

At 9 last night he got a call from his headteacher telling him he had to teach online from today !

no wonder today is a bit of chaos, give them chance and i am sure it will get sorted, they are doing their best and a reduced curriculum for a while can be caught up.

If the kids catch it, or the teachers do the disruption may be worse

OR FATAL !!!"

Exactly. Well put

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

I'm with you on the eldest. Mine has been brilliant till yesterday when they cancelled a level exams.... His motivation dropped through the floor. It's tough for them... But we just have to keep doing our best.

That must be so hard, same for yr 11's, as there isnt a reason now to do any work is there, such a shame.

No opportunities to improve predicted grades, no clarity over uni entry process, no uni when you get there... Its tough on older kids right now.... We parents got to work harder than ever to keep them motivated. "

There are ways to assess students other than exams (we're doing it next week and did it in June too), but it seems that the big exam boards lack any sort of ability to think beyond the traditional. Exams in the form usually done would look familiar to Aristotle, the only difference being the type of writing implements. This should be an opportunity to properly revise the assessment system. Unfortunately, the last review was carried out by Mr 18th century himself, Mr Gove. If the last review had been fit for the 21st century, rather than an era prior to Queen Victoria, then there'd not be such a mess now.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The only thing that niggles me about all this is that the government assumes all kids have access to computers and broadband which isnt always the case. Schools can have all the excellent provision in the world but its no good if your kid doesnt have a screen for the whole of the school day. Our school were going to sign up to a hire to buy scheme for laptops that hasnt materialised.

hi, have you checked the free laptop scheme which is being rolled out currently to see if you might qualify for assistance? it may be worth a look."

They quietly reduced that, pretty significantly

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's really tough for both sides. Today was unprepared for potentially ad a remote lesson. The teachers have to deal with all pupils as well as preparing for the rest of the week. If they have a camera phone, they may be able to take pics of work and attach via Bluetooth. They could write questions or describe what they found difficult. It's obviously a nightmare but some things should get easier over time.

Short lessons can't deliver too much knowledge but little and often is good. Small steps and goals are helpful.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"hi, have you checked the free laptop scheme which is being rolled out currently to see if you might qualify for assistance? it may be worth a look.

They quietly reduced that, pretty significantly"

the last update to the scheme was 21st December just for clarification

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only thing that niggles me about all this is that the government assumes all kids have access to computers and broadband which isnt always the case. Schools can have all the excellent provision in the world but its no good if your kid doesnt have a screen for the whole of the school day. Our school were going to sign up to a hire to buy scheme for laptops that hasnt materialised.

hi, have you checked the free laptop scheme which is being rolled out currently to see if you might qualify for assistance? it may be worth a look."

I havnt seen that no I will look, I had planned to email school to see if there were still any plans or if we could just go as individuals to the company that were doing it.

Im sure there will be uproar about people expecting free computers, its not that at all but being asked to access a system on equipment you dont have then people could do with some help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hi, have you checked the free laptop scheme which is being rolled out currently to see if you might qualify for assistance? it may be worth a look.

They quietly reduced that, pretty significantly

the last update to the scheme was 21st December just for clarification"

What would I search under to look for it?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

I'm with you on the eldest. Mine has been brilliant till yesterday when they cancelled a level exams.... His motivation dropped through the floor. It's tough for them... But we just have to keep doing our best.

That must be so hard, same for yr 11's, as there isnt a reason now to do any work is there, such a shame.

No opportunities to improve predicted grades, no clarity over uni entry process, no uni when you get there... Its tough on older kids right now.... We parents got to work harder than ever to keep them motivated.

There are ways to assess students other than exams (we're doing it next week and did it in June too), but it seems that the big exam boards lack any sort of ability to think beyond the traditional. Exams in the form usually done would look familiar to Aristotle, the only difference being the type of writing implements. This should be an opportunity to properly revise the assessment system. Unfortunately, the last review was carried out by Mr 18th century himself, Mr Gove. If the last review had been fit for the 21st century, rather than an era prior to Queen Victoria, then there'd not be such a mess now. "

Well given he finishes school in 6 months...there isn't going to be a new miracle assessment mechanism. With or without a levels... He leaves. So then what? No idea why exams have been pulled..

What's then worse that can happen? Exam halls are by definition socially distanced. But to pull them with no clarification of how and when they will be assessed is typical of the clumsy and unprofessional approach that has been taken from day 1.

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By *ealthy_and_HungMan
over a year ago

Princes Risborough, Luasanne, Alderney


"hi, have you checked the free laptop scheme which is being rolled out currently to see if you might qualify for assistance? it may be worth a look.

They quietly reduced that, pretty significantly

the last update to the scheme was 21st December just for clarification

What would I search under to look for it? "

i just typed in 'free laptop uk' on duckduckgo and the relevant Gov.uk site came up top of the list. try that first

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"hi, have you checked the free laptop scheme which is being rolled out currently to see if you might qualify for assistance? it may be worth a look.

They quietly reduced that, pretty significantly

the last update to the scheme was 21st December just for clarification

What would I search under to look for it?

i just typed in 'free laptop uk' on duckduckgo and the relevant Gov.uk site came up top of the list. try that first "

Will do thanks. X

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By *exy Pretty FeetCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England

This is a tough gig for all involved. Schools in Scotland don't start back until next Monday. It's not an ideal scenario for kids to be going back to homeschooling but given this is the second time around, I'm trying to get ahead and plan a little. The first time around my teenage sons had very little motivation and struggled with keeping up. They're both neurodiverse and would benefit from additional support for learning but there was none. No check ins nothing. So knowing this, forewarned is forearmed.

Both my boys missed lots of school work for weeks at the beginning of lockdown last year. Eventually I had to create trello boards for each of them, go through each of their teams subjects and pull out all the tasks they were needing to do with dates and colour coding by subject. They could sort the board to show what was due soonest and plan their studies to keep on top of it. The older one was able to manage and update his own trello board whereas i had to keep checking teams for new tasks to add to the younger ones trello board (he has dyspraxia).

I think the trello boards helped them a lot last time around. But going forward, I know the younger one will struggle with self directed study and keeping a routine so to add to this, I've just created him an interactive timetable in Word... which is pretty much his school timetable with each subject hyperlinking straight to the relevant subject in teams (he finds the teams landing page overwhelming!).

The plan is he clicks the subject, check teams for new tasks but if nothing uploaded or due then will spend at least 20 mins revising over earlier work. I'm not expecting miracles but I'm hoping some plan from our side will be better than no plan at all.

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By * F 2018Couple
over a year ago

shropshire


"Lol its hard to take a thread seriously when all I can see it cocks and tits....sorry

Maybe serious threads should be posted without profile pics???? It does make me laugh....what was the question? Lol"

Rolls eyes !!!

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By * F 2018Couple
over a year ago

shropshire


"First day at it and it's going badly. For starters our internet signal isn't the best, late logging on because of it and it keeps buffering.

Son told to do a PowerPoint, he doesn't know how to, so asked the teacher and the when the teacher finally answered a good 10 minutes later, she simply said draw it on paper instead. What use is that? That's not teaching my son anything. His motivation is now at rock bottom and doesn't see the point. This is only day 1 and I'm back in work tomorrow so not even around to try and help him and motivate him.

These children are suffering and will be for years to come."

Try not to stress to much kids are good at bouncing back ..take a breath.. do what you can thats all you can do.. no good beating your self up. And your son... just do what you can do try not to stress.you have yrs ahead to catch up hugs x

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

Its very hard work but I think everyone is going to have to just get on with it really. The OP seemed to be someone who was ' expecting' from the school/teacher and unfortunately whether anyone likes it or not it's not going to be like that .. We are going to be expected to muck in and actually do some teaching I think .

Saying the kid didnt know powerpoint is fair enough but does the kid know playstation Roblox ? Xbox etc? truth is if they can master those they should be able to at least try to work with the basics of presentation packages and word processors .. and so should we adults too I suppose .

Main thing is .. governemnt have sprung this on everyone last minute as usual and we are all just going to have to get on with it ..

Last point OP said they were going to work tomorrow ? that means leaving kids at home unsupervised? not sure if thats legal for one thing and sensible for another !

I did think that if you absolutely had to go to work you are allowed to send your kids to school ? so that should eliminate the problem for the OP at least?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

Unfortunately with all of this online teaching, work set or live lessons, availability to answer questions on the work, it is down to the individual teacher. We have some great teachers, who are engaging, online, responsive during the school day or answering our questions way past school time. Others they set the work with limited instructions, don’t answer questions and don’t do live lessons, so the parents end up doing the lesson.

It’s been a huge learning curve for the staff, parents and children since lockdown last March, neither the teachers or children had a break for Easter holidays we went straight into learning online.

First lockdown we had no live lessons at all, just reams of documents, powerpoints and alike to read and work through. All supposed to take no more than 30 minutes each subject (that’s including doing the work) some of the papers took that and longer to read, which should be a total of 3 hours for all work, for most it was 7/8 hours a day.

We’ve all continued to talk to each other, say what’s good / bad and the school have adapted along the way listening to concerns, setting the work based on the various intellect levels of students. Example English during lockdown was shakesphere, a lot of children had no concept what most of the words meant so alot of time was spent finding the meaning of these so they could understand what was being written. Four weeks later, the work came with a glossary of old words, what they meant in modern times so the children can understand and the work to be answered in sections based on level and speed of completion, which released a lot of pressure they were feeling.

I’m lucky (but also unlucky) as I’m out of work so I spend my day adding to the teaching, reading the work to him, supporting and ensuring he unders_ands what he needs to do, it’s long tough days, we’ve both had meltdowns, and I wouldn’t have been able to do that if I was working. Downside I cannot find a new role until we get stability and the kids are back in school.

It’s not ideal and I know I’m not a teacher and can’t give him the answers he needs or get him excited about a seemingly boring topic like a teacher could. We are all (teachers, kids and parents) just doing the best we can and can hope we don’t have another year of this and it’s just one term.

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By *he Ring WraithMan
over a year ago

Bradford


"Lol its hard to take a thread seriously when all I can see it cocks and tits....sorry

Maybe serious threads should be posted without profile pics???? It does make me laugh....what was the question? Lol"

Why ? Is there a rule that says sexy people with good pics and great bodies are not to be concerned with kids education, and whilst I disagree with the content of the post; as I have explained previously on the thread surely sexy pics and parenthood are not mutually exclusive ? (says he who considers himself a good parent but not at all sexy)

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

I'm with you on the eldest. Mine has been brilliant till yesterday when they cancelled a level exams.... His motivation dropped through the floor. It's tough for them... But we just have to keep doing our best.

That must be so hard, same for yr 11's, as there isnt a reason now to do any work is there, such a shame.

No opportunities to improve predicted grades, no clarity over uni entry process, no uni when you get there... Its tough on older kids right now.... We parents got to work harder than ever to keep them motivated.

There are ways to assess students other than exams (we're doing it next week and did it in June too), but it seems that the big exam boards lack any sort of ability to think beyond the traditional. Exams in the form usually done would look familiar to Aristotle, the only difference being the type of writing implements. This should be an opportunity to properly revise the assessment system. Unfortunately, the last review was carried out by Mr 18th century himself, Mr Gove. If the last review had been fit for the 21st century, rather than an era prior to Queen Victoria, then there'd not be such a mess now.

Well given he finishes school in 6 months...there isn't going to be a new miracle assessment mechanism. With or without a levels... He leaves. So then what? No idea why exams have been pulled..

What's then worse that can happen? Exam halls are by definition socially distanced. But to pull them with no clarification of how and when they will be assessed is typical of the clumsy and unprofessional approach that has been taken from day 1."

Just remember it's not teachers who cancelled A levels. It's the Government. The alternative, I'd assume, is some sort of moderated teacher assessment and mock exam grade combo. With last year's experience, I'd hope all schools have been keeping thorough formative assessment records of students since September. We've been doing monthly mini assessments with grades reported centrally for exactly this reason.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Its very hard work but I think everyone is going to have to just get on with it really. The OP seemed to be someone who was ' expecting' from the school/teacher and unfortunately whether anyone likes it or not it's not going to be like that .. We are going to be expected to muck in and actually do some teaching I think .

Saying the kid didnt know powerpoint is fair enough but does the kid know playstation Roblox ? Xbox etc? truth is if they can master those they should be able to at least try to work with the basics of presentation packages and word processors .. and so should we adults too I suppose .

Main thing is .. governemnt have sprung this on everyone last minute as usual and we are all just going to have to get on with it ..

Last point OP said they were going to work tomorrow ? that means leaving kids at home unsupervised? not sure if thats legal for one thing and sensible for another !

I did think that if you absolutely had to go to work you are allowed to send your kids to school ? so that should eliminate the problem for the OP at least? "

. Just want to clarify I'm not doing anything illegal.

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"Lol its hard to take a thread seriously when all I can see it cocks and tits....sorry

Maybe serious threads should be posted without profile pics???? It does make me laugh....what was the question? Lol

Why ? Is there a rule that says sexy people with good pics and great bodies are not to be concerned with kids education, and whilst I disagree with the content of the post; as I have explained previously on the thread surely sexy pics and parenthood are not mutually exclusive ? (says he who considers himself a good parent but not at all sexy)"

I think this guy was just trying to bring some light heartedness into things,god knows we all need it.

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By *atelotmanMan
over a year ago

Chatham


"Maybe stop treating schools as a babysitter and do your job as a parent......im a single parent and im loving lockdown....dont put any pressure on him...few hours a day but plenty of playtime because its not the kids fault or the teachers.....or....the government!!! No one could see how bad this was gonna be....just grit your teeth and get through it....summer is on the way"

Well said

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit. "

Contact the school, they "might" be able to supply you with a laptop. We have received about 50 laptops from the DFE for "in need" students, I have also renovated loads of "old" kit for students that don't qualify for the DFE scheme.

Cal

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

Contact the school, they "might" be able to supply you with a laptop. We have received about 50 laptops from the DFE for "in need" students, I have also renovated loads of "old" kit for students that don't qualify for the DFE scheme.

Cal"

That's a great gesture for you to do Cal. Well done.

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Children are resilient.

Teachers are given a hard time ,you have one child to teach ...they have a class to keep tabs on..no one said we only have one child"

Teachers often are facilitators & guiders...I am sure there are online tutorials for power point, teacher could have suggested, you might have thought of it, your child I would have thought should have come up with that themselves. You are not as helpless as it seems you consider yourself

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

This day one! Give them a chance.

It’s not really tho is it... it’s quite far into it all and they’ve had a few practices.

Plus there is still no answer to that question. My son had double science this morning 9-11. Until last week a teacher would have been stood in front of him in a classroom. Where is that teacher today and what is he/she doing?

And ‘lesson prep’ doesn’t wash with me before anyone pulls that one out ..."

Practices yes, but notice? No. Preparation may not wash with you, but really it is a long process for 10 mins teaching time an hour can easily be spent prepping, even a reading list takes time, checking links & that the link is appropriate, it does not happen by magic.

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

Teachers are getting a pay freeze announced in November

Home schooling is karma for those that voted Tory

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

If every pupil sent a request for help the teacher would be very busy trying to answer them all in time before the lesson ended so cutting some slack wouldn't hurt

It is also the first day of online learning that the PM insisted wasn't going to happen on Sunday, I am not sure what people expect at times

I for one think teachers have had a real hard time in all this, the ones I know are dedicated to their job and will do anything for their job and children in their care.

I am sure the teacher who took ten minutes to answer wasn't sitting in her housecoat drinking wine and ignoring mails for the hell of it.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"If every pupil sent a request for help the teacher would be very busy trying to answer them all in time before the lesson ended so cutting some slack wouldn't hurt

It is also the first day of online learning that the PM insisted wasn't going to happen on Sunday, I am not sure what people expect at times

I for one think teachers have had a real hard time in all this, the ones I know are dedicated to their job and will do anything for their job and children in their care.

I am sure the teacher who took ten minutes to answer wasn't sitting in her housecoat drinking wine and ignoring mails for the hell of it."

Rugby, I bloody wish I could sit in my housecoat drinking wine. Thank you for the endorsement of teachers

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

Contact the school, they "might" be able to supply you with a laptop. We have received about 50 laptops from the DFE for "in need" students, I have also renovated loads of "old" kit for students that don't qualify for the DFE scheme.

Cal

That's a great gesture for you to do Cal. Well done. "

It's not charity , I'm the IT guy at a school. I assume that most schools will try to do similar if they can.

Cal

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By *orthern Stars OP   Couple
over a year ago

Durham


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

Contact the school, they "might" be able to supply you with a laptop. We have received about 50 laptops from the DFE for "in need" students, I have also renovated loads of "old" kit for students that don't qualify for the DFE scheme.

Cal

That's a great gesture for you to do Cal. Well done.

It's not charity , I'm the IT guy at a school. I assume that most schools will try to do similar if they can.

Cal"

Ahhhh I see. Well that is still a very rewarding job you do. Haven't heard of anything like that at our school but then to be fair, I've never asked.

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By *ollydoesWoman
over a year ago

Shangri-La

2 kids 14/15 both ment to he doing online classes...we have 1 laptop between the 3 of us. I also need to use it for my work ( self employed). Nightmare.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"My eldest who has been super focused up until now has lost all motivation on day one. Cant get the youngest to do a bean and as both us parents are at work all day there isnt a lot we can do about it. We dont have any sort of computer so it is just squinting at phones. Total shit.

I'm with you on the eldest. Mine has been brilliant till yesterday when they cancelled a level exams.... His motivation dropped through the floor. It's tough for them... But we just have to keep doing our best.

That must be so hard, same for yr 11's, as there isnt a reason now to do any work is there, such a shame.

No opportunities to improve predicted grades, no clarity over uni entry process, no uni when you get there... Its tough on older kids right now.... We parents got to work harder than ever to keep them motivated.

There are ways to assess students other than exams (we're doing it next week and did it in June too), but it seems that the big exam boards lack any sort of ability to think beyond the traditional. Exams in the form usually done would look familiar to Aristotle, the only difference being the type of writing implements. This should be an opportunity to properly revise the assessment system. Unfortunately, the last review was carried out by Mr 18th century himself, Mr Gove. If the last review had been fit for the 21st century, rather than an era prior to Queen Victoria, then there'd not be such a mess now.

Well given he finishes school in 6 months...there isn't going to be a new miracle assessment mechanism. With or without a levels... He leaves. So then what? No idea why exams have been pulled..

What's then worse that can happen? Exam halls are by definition socially distanced. But to pull them with no clarification of how and when they will be assessed is typical of the clumsy and unprofessional approach that has been taken from day 1.

Just remember it's not teachers who cancelled A levels. It's the Government. The alternative, I'd assume, is some sort of moderated teacher assessment and mock exam grade combo. With last year's experience, I'd hope all schools have been keeping thorough formative assessment records of students since September. We've been doing monthly mini assessments with grades reported centrally for exactly this reason. "

What's clear from even this small sample of teaching experiences is that there is huge disparity on schools and teachers. Like all professions.

Some are doing a brilliant job in trying circumstances and some (yep I have some direct experience) have been grade a shit.. Either not capable of or unwilling to engage and deliver. So whilst your school have been preparing (and it seems eminently sense that they should do so for the next few years) some schools have not been. So how do you assess independently to a national standard? For the benefit of the pupils..?

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"2 kids 14/15 both ment to he doing online classes...we have 1 laptop between the 3 of us. I also need to use it for my work ( self employed). Nightmare. "

We have computers but the local internet just can't Handel it. Stop start I guess if your in a town it's not as bad but out in the county side it's a joke to even try and do an email at the moment can only get on hear on my phone 4g

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Was the aim, to create a PowerPoint? Or was the work just to be presented on PowerPoint so a paper version would achieve the actual aim?

We've logged in to Google classroom for the first time today, we've not had any actual remote learning previously (year 4) I'm not looking forward to the term via that platform, fortunately the kidlets teacher is just happy any work gets done so as long as some work is submitted each week covering the actual aims, it's all good.

I hope things settle op

Kids should learn the new platforms quick enough. Fingers crossed."

this is what i was thinking, powerpoint was probably just the easiest vehicle to submit back to the teacher but not the point of the lesson

and while the teacher showed your son how to use power point the next struggling kids parent would probably have been telling people when they finally got back to us 45 minutes later

hard on the pupils but cant be easy for teachers used to having a class full of bodies and teaching assistant moving to online and trying to keep everyone going

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be."

i work in an office environment with qualified colleagues who happen to just be more junior in my team... there are only 3 of them and now we are at home most days i lose 9-5 going in circles coaching them and then start my job at 5

y probably has upwards of 15 kids so 10 minutes is a miracle to me

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !"

i would imagine replanning the next term to be able to deliver it remotely instead of in person now

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be.

i work in an office environment with qualified colleagues who happen to just be more junior in my team... there are only 3 of them and now we are at home most days i lose 9-5 going in circles coaching them and then start my job at 5

y probably has upwards of 15 kids so 10 minutes is a miracle to me "

My team of mainly older teachers have now just about mastered the basics, but it has been incredibly difficult to do super quick training on the new VLE, online lab technology, Teams, Screen-cast-o-matic, Loom, H5P, the virtual classroom software, and that's a tiny drop in the ocean. It's not easy if you're not intuitive with technology.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

This was only announced at 8pm last night ...give them a chance .

"

This

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"First day at it and it's going badly. For starters our internet signal isn't the best, late logging on because of it and it keeps buffering.

Son told to do a PowerPoint, he doesn't know how to, so asked the teacher and the when the teacher finally answered a good 10 minutes later, she simply said draw it on paper instead. What use is that? That's not teaching my son anything. His motivation is now at rock bottom and doesn't see the point. This is only day 1 and I'm back in work tomorrow so not even around to try and help him and motivate him.

These children are suffering and will be for years to come."

Did the teacher answer 10 minutes later coz of the poor Internet connection or coz they were not sure of what they were doing?

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be.

i work in an office environment with qualified colleagues who happen to just be more junior in my team... there are only 3 of them and now we are at home most days i lose 9-5 going in circles coaching them and then start my job at 5

y probably has upwards of 15 kids so 10 minutes is a miracle to me

My team of mainly older teachers have now just about mastered the basics, but it has been incredibly difficult to do super quick training on the new VLE, online lab technology, Teams, Screen-cast-o-matic, Loom, H5P, the virtual classroom software, and that's a tiny drop in the ocean. It's not easy if you're not intuitive with technology."

Sorry can you put that in English. So you have your teachers trained but what about the kids and parents let Alone the fact we are doing this on a phone that only has 32m memery

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be.

i work in an office environment with qualified colleagues who happen to just be more junior in my team... there are only 3 of them and now we are at home most days i lose 9-5 going in circles coaching them and then start my job at 5

y probably has upwards of 15 kids so 10 minutes is a miracle to me

My team of mainly older teachers have now just about mastered the basics, but it has been incredibly difficult to do super quick training on the new VLE, online lab technology, Teams, Screen-cast-o-matic, Loom, H5P, the virtual classroom software, and that's a tiny drop in the ocean. It's not easy if you're not intuitive with technology.

Sorry can you put that in English. So you have your teachers trained but what about the kids and parents let Alone the fact we are doing this on a phone that only has 32m memery "

Teachers can only do what they can the rest is just a mess. I am actually surprise the lights still work as systems were never designed for what they ate being asked to do

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton

Some people on here should teach their kids to learn how to do sone things by themselves after all it's their future on the line . You can't blame the teachers for everything. If your kids really wanted to pass they would put in some work too, but with some comments that I'm seeing on here I doubt they would coz they know that their parents will put all the blame on the teachers should the kids fail.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be.

i work in an office environment with qualified colleagues who happen to just be more junior in my team... there are only 3 of them and now we are at home most days i lose 9-5 going in circles coaching them and then start my job at 5

y probably has upwards of 15 kids so 10 minutes is a miracle to me

My team of mainly older teachers have now just about mastered the basics, but it has been incredibly difficult to do super quick training on the new VLE, online lab technology, Teams, Screen-cast-o-matic, Loom, H5P, the virtual classroom software, and that's a tiny drop in the ocean. It's not easy if you're not intuitive with technology.

Sorry can you put that in English. So you have your teachers trained but what about the kids and parents let Alone the fact we are doing this on a phone that only has 32m memery "

Our students are all 16+ and they've been "trained" since September. They had a week's induction. Being the end user (the student) is a lot easier than the person who has to use the tech to prepare, upload and stream lessons. Our students have been just fine and I'm dealing with students on every continent except Antarctica and in areas with very limited internet speeds (like Inner Mongolia).

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be.

i work in an office environment with qualified colleagues who happen to just be more junior in my team... there are only 3 of them and now we are at home most days i lose 9-5 going in circles coaching them and then start my job at 5

y probably has upwards of 15 kids so 10 minutes is a miracle to me

My team of mainly older teachers have now just about mastered the basics, but it has been incredibly difficult to do super quick training on the new VLE, online lab technology, Teams, Screen-cast-o-matic, Loom, H5P, the virtual classroom software, and that's a tiny drop in the ocean. It's not easy if you're not intuitive with technology.

Sorry can you put that in English. So you have your teachers trained but what about the kids and parents let Alone the fact we are doing this on a phone that only has 32m memery "

Maybe it's time to invest in a tablet

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By *orthcoupleCouple
over a year ago

Newcastle


"First day at it and it's going badly. For starters our internet signal isn't the best, late logging on because of it and it keeps buffering.

Son told to do a PowerPoint, he doesn't know how to, so asked the teacher and the when the teacher finally answered a good 10 minutes later, she simply said draw it on paper instead. What use is that? That's not teaching my son anything. His motivation is now at rock bottom and doesn't see the point. This is only day 1 and I'm back in work tomorrow so not even around to try and help him and motivate him.

These children are suffering and will be for years to come."

Maybe the teacher took 'a good ten minutes' to answer the question because they were also actually busy online looking at swinging sites, like the too busy parents.....

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"First day at it and it's going badly. For starters our internet signal isn't the best, late logging on because of it and it keeps buffering.

Son told to do a PowerPoint, he doesn't know how to, so asked the teacher and the when the teacher finally answered a good 10 minutes later, she simply said draw it on paper instead. What use is that? That's not teaching my son anything. His motivation is now at rock bottom and doesn't see the point. This is only day 1 and I'm back in work tomorrow so not even around to try and help him and motivate him.

These children are suffering and will be for years to come.

Maybe the teacher took 'a good ten minutes' to answer the question because they were also actually busy online looking at swinging sites, like the too busy parents..... "

you're so right

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

I don't think the real frustrations are about the teachers, or the technology, or the children, or the parents.

The real frustrations that are coming to the surface and being amplified and compounded by lots of other things is the whole situation we find ourselves in.

We are all in the same boat in the same storm and land is not in sight. We're all adrift together and we never know how intense the next storm is going to be from one day to the next.

The only thing we must hang on to, is ourselves, and our loved ones, and each other. And if someone looks like they are slipping overboard, grab their ankles and pull them back in, not matter how much you want to chuck them overboard. They may be struggling more than you.

Why bring them back in ? Because they are the ballast the boat needs to stay on an even keel. Light boats get thrown all over the place when they have less crew to help out.

Bring them on board, even if they are doing a shit job.

Chances are, the storm is making things ten times worse for them right now, just as it is for you.

And when this is all over, if they were genuinely shit, then by all means let them leave at the next port or give the heave-ho.

But for now, we are in the same boat.

We need all hands on deck, and it matters not if you bail with a spoon or a 45-gallon drum.

What matters is that we bail the best we can with what we have got.

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be.

i work in an office environment with qualified colleagues who happen to just be more junior in my team... there are only 3 of them and now we are at home most days i lose 9-5 going in circles coaching them and then start my job at 5

y probably has upwards of 15 kids so 10 minutes is a miracle to me

My team of mainly older teachers have now just about mastered the basics, but it has been incredibly difficult to do super quick training on the new VLE, online lab technology, Teams, Screen-cast-o-matic, Loom, H5P, the virtual classroom software, and that's a tiny drop in the ocean. It's not easy if you're not intuitive with technology.

Sorry can you put that in English. So you have your teachers trained but what about the kids and parents let Alone the fact we are doing this on a phone that only has 32m memery

Maybe it's time to invest in a tablet "

Why if the net is so bad

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it.

Think the sarcasm might have passed you by. To get a response in 10 mins is superb

Is it? In a 30 minute lesson? There's not much hope of my son learning much then. Hey ho, it'll be what it'll be.

i work in an office environment with qualified colleagues who happen to just be more junior in my team... there are only 3 of them and now we are at home most days i lose 9-5 going in circles coaching them and then start my job at 5

y probably has upwards of 15 kids so 10 minutes is a miracle to me

My team of mainly older teachers have now just about mastered the basics, but it has been incredibly difficult to do super quick training on the new VLE, online lab technology, Teams, Screen-cast-o-matic, Loom, H5P, the virtual classroom software, and that's a tiny drop in the ocean. It's not easy if you're not intuitive with technology.

Sorry can you put that in English. So you have your teachers trained but what about the kids and parents let Alone the fact we are doing this on a phone that only has 32m memery

Maybe it's time to invest in a tablet

Why if the net is so bad "

Then change your provider. Theres always something or someone to blame

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Some people on here should teach their kids to learn how to do sone things by themselves after all it's their future on the line . You can't blame the teachers for everything. If your kids really wanted to pass they would put in some work too, but with some comments that I'm seeing on here I doubt they would coz they know that their parents will put all the blame on the teachers should the kids fail."

Learning how to learn is surely the first step of education. Being hungry to learn new things the second. Everything else here is mostly just getting used to changes and taking a bit of responsibility as a parent which we have been protected from in the past. Well the world has changed a lot this last year. I mean any parent who is seriously setting their kid up for online learning on a phone is missing something. We also had a practise run at this back in the summer.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I don't think the real frustrations are about the teachers, or the technology, or the children, or the parents.

The real frustrations that are coming to the surface and being amplified and compounded by lots of other things is the whole situation we find ourselves in.

We are all in the same boat in the same storm and land is not in sight. We're all adrift together and we never know how intense the next storm is going to be from one day to the next.

The only thing we must hang on to, is ourselves, and our loved ones, and each other. And if someone looks like they are slipping overboard, grab their ankles and pull them back in, not matter how much you want to chuck them overboard. They may be struggling more than you.

Why bring them back in ? Because they are the ballast the boat needs to stay on an even keel. Light boats get thrown all over the place when they have less crew to help out.

Bring them on board, even if they are doing a shit job.

Chances are, the storm is making things ten times worse for them right now, just as it is for you.

And when this is all over, if they were genuinely shit, then by all means let them leave at the next port or give the heave-ho.

But for now, we are in the same boat.

We need all hands on deck, and it matters not if you bail with a spoon or a 45-gallon drum.

What matters is that we bail the best we can with what we have got."

I love that attitude. Great thinking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Any parents out there feeling the same right now?"

Yes . Daughter had a problem this morning with her laptop . Didnt have a clue how to sort it out . She missed a lesson . They should be in school end of

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Any parents out there feeling the same right now?

Yes . Daughter had a problem this morning with her laptop . Didnt have a clue how to sort it out . She missed a lesson . They should be in school end of "

That could equally have happened in school - teacher's computer having a dicky fit; student laptops suddenly doing updates in the middle of lessons; interactive boards deciding to pack up etc. This is the reality of using technology in education (and the workplace in general). She will overcome this one little glitch, I'm sure.

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By *exy Pretty FeetCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"I don't think the real frustrations are about the teachers, or the technology, or the children, or the parents.

The real frustrations that are coming to the surface and being amplified and compounded by lots of other things is the whole situation we find ourselves in.

We are all in the same boat in the same storm and land is not in sight. We're all adrift together and we never know how intense the next storm is going to be from one day to the next.

The only thing we must hang on to, is ourselves, and our loved ones, and each other. And if someone looks like they are slipping overboard, grab their ankles and pull them back in, not matter how much you want to chuck them overboard. They may be struggling more than you.

Why bring them back in ? Because they are the ballast the boat needs to stay on an even keel. Light boats get thrown all over the place when they have less crew to help out.

Bring them on board, even if they are doing a shit job.

Chances are, the storm is making things ten times worse for them right now, just as it is for you.

And when this is all over, if they were genuinely shit, then by all means let them leave at the next port or give the heave-ho.

But for now, we are in the same boat.

We need all hands on deck, and it matters not if you bail with a spoon or a 45-gallon drum.

What matters is that we bail the best we can with what we have got."

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Any parents out there feeling the same right now?

Yes . Daughter had a problem this morning with her laptop . Didnt have a clue how to sort it out . She missed a lesson . They should be in school end of "

The lesson may well be available online archived for use, not teachers fault if you can’t sort out a laptop. Incidentally I wouldn’t have a clue myself.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"Any parents out there feeling the same right now?

Yes . Daughter had a problem this morning with her laptop . Didnt have a clue how to sort it out . She missed a lesson . They should be in school end of

The lesson may well be available online archived for use, not teachers fault if you can’t sort out a laptop. Incidentally I wouldn’t have a clue myself."

Well said

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By *penfire2000Couple
over a year ago

hampshire


"Please give teachers a wee bit of a chance to get work organised for the move to remote learning. Your plans have been thrown into disarray - so have theirs

Actually no, I don’t feel like giving them a chance. My son (year 10) has had 3 lessons today. One was live streamed, 2 weren’t. The 2 that aren’t were just links to read stuff. I’d like someone to tell me why the teacher that would have been stood in front of a class cannot be stood in from of a zoom camera teaching my child, answering their queries in real time as he/she would have at school. And I’d like to know what that teacher was in fact doing today instead of that? No one seems able to give an actual, specific answer to that !

Well today I have been teaching via zoom for two hours, I’ve taught five adults how to use zoom, I’ve completed track and trace information to enable us to isolate properly for the portion of my class that are in school, I’ve marked the work submitted to me yesterday, recorded 3 lessons for tomorrow and am trying to plan for the rest of the week. I’ve had to call 45 families as they haven’t logged into zoom and also try and compete some assessments to ensure I’m pitching this terms work correctly. I’ve also had many many emails from parents like you assuming I’m sitting on my arse drinking coffee. I started at 7 and now I’m done your comment is just awful. "

Spot on! People have no idea. We are delivering a full timetable of lessons via Teams. It took me 6 hours just to adapt my lessons before we went live! Teachers are also phoning the parents of missing students every day.

For any struggling parents, please look up The Oak National Academy. It is excellent for all ages.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Maybe stop treating schools as a babysitter and do your job as a parent......im a single parent and im loving lockdown....dont put any pressure on him...few hours a day but plenty of playtime because its not the kids fault or the teachers.....or....the government!!! No one could see how bad this was gonna be....just grit your teeth and get through it....summer is on the way"

Excellent post

I am loving it, we have always done a few hours extra school work at a weekend, so both kids are used to getting on with it.

People need to stop moaning and assuming their child/ren will get A* with no intervention, teach them to work on their weaknesses... its never been a better time with unlimited resources and tutorials online and no annoying kids distracting everyone from their work because they think its a social club.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"Maybe stop treating schools as a babysitter and do your job as a parent......im a single parent and im loving lockdown....dont put any pressure on him...few hours a day but plenty of playtime because its not the kids fault or the teachers.....or....the government!!! No one could see how bad this was gonna be....just grit your teeth and get through it....summer is on the way

Excellent post

I am loving it, we have always done a few hours extra school work at a weekend, so both kids are used to getting on with it.

People need to stop moaning and assuming their child/ren will get A* with no intervention, teach them to work on their weaknesses... its never been a better time with unlimited resources and tutorials online and no annoying kids distracting everyone from their work because they think its a social club.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
over a year ago

Leigh


"People need to stop moaning and assuming their child/ren will get A* with no intervention, teach them to work on their weaknesses... its never been a better time with unlimited resources and tutorials online and no annoying kids distracting everyone from their work because they think its a social club."

We have also always spent the time explaining elements of work our daughter doesn't understand. Sometimes it is just a few minutes a day to check she is OK, other times it is several hours. We also talk around subjects, teaching her the "why" as well as the basic facts. We always make time for this in preference to doing other things.

As she has been brought up to question things, and search for additional learning resources, our daughter loves the current system. There aren't any distractions from those who don't want to learn, she can spend more time expanding her knowledge of a subject beyond the taught lesson as topics she finds simple (but others struggle with) can have less time spent on them. She is therefore more motivated and less bored than at school.

She gets up at the same time as a normal school day and walks 2 miles with me to clear her head before starting her school work at 0830. This means she is finished by mid afternoon and has the rest of the day to do something she likes. This is partly her personality, partly the way she has been brought up - schools are not a babysitting service, and in reality can only teach a small subset of a subject. It is the parents' responsibility to teach their childern the majority of things they need to know.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

How old is your daughter please ?

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By *exy_HornyCouple
over a year ago

Leigh


"How old is your daughter please ?"

If you are asking us, she is 14.

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By *laymateteeMan
over a year ago

Southampton


"People need to stop moaning and assuming their child/ren will get A* with no intervention, teach them to work on their weaknesses... its never been a better time with unlimited resources and tutorials online and no annoying kids distracting everyone from their work because they think its a social club.

We have also always spent the time explaining elements of work our daughter doesn't understand. Sometimes it is just a few minutes a day to check she is OK, other times it is several hours. We also talk around subjects, teaching her the "why" as well as the basic facts. We always make time for this in preference to doing other things.

As she has been brought up to question things, and search for additional learning resources, our daughter loves the current system. There aren't any distractions from those who don't want to learn, she can spend more time expanding her knowledge of a subject beyond the taught lesson as topics she finds simple (but others struggle with) can have less time spent on them. She is therefore more motivated and less bored than at school.

She gets up at the same time as a normal school day and walks 2 miles with me to clear her head before starting her school work at 0830. This means she is finished by mid afternoon and has the rest of the day to do something she likes. This is partly her personality, partly the way she has been brought up - schools are not a babysitting service, and in reality can only teach a small subset of a subject. It is the parents' responsibility to teach their childern the majority of things they need to know."

If only all parents had this attitude. Well done and keep up the good work

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"How old is your daughter please ?

If you are asking us, she is 14."

I wouldn't be able to teach Maths, Physics or Chemistry to a 14 year old. It is admirable you can help her with all subjects.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it."

it's rediculous I mean they should have been round there in seconds in a zorb ball to ensure that child knows everything all the time.

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Thank god my Grandaughter is still in school .. been enough disruptions to her education

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By *r TriomanMan
over a year ago

Chippenham Malmesbury area


"When the teacher finally answered ... a good 10 mins later!! ....

Yes, not great is it."

I thought that was sarcasm... 10 minutes is far quicker than most service providers. I'm guessing that your child isn't the only one in the class? Most classes have 30 children and the teacher could also be experiencing IT/Network issues (especially if they are working from home and paying for the equipment and provider).

If I was getting emails from 10s of people all at once, there's no way I'd respond within 10 minutes.

I know it's frustrating for you as a parent, as this effect your child's future but I think these teachers are amazing to keep delivering education under such testing times. Try working with them OP to ensure your child's education can continue.

If you're able to afford it, maybe consider updating your wifi package and, also if you're free to do so, take some time to play around with PowerPoint and other MS apps with your child so that they can use them for classwork.

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