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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home" Should be like that here too. Lost count of how many times I've saw not just one maskless person in a shop but groups of them. They can't all be exempt and if they are which I highly doubt why are they all out together shopping in a group. I do maintain though there isn't a single condition that would someone unable to wear a mask for the duration of their shopping. | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home" I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home" Or you ask someone to do your shopping for you. Or you do it online. | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home Should be like that here too. Lost count of how many times I've saw not just one maskless person in a shop but groups of them. They can't all be exempt and if they are which I highly doubt why are they all out together shopping in a group. I do maintain though there isn't a single condition that would someone unable to wear a mask for the duration of their shopping."  | |||
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"I have given up with customers! They dont keep their distance at all and as I work on shop floor as a home shopper they up and close all time it will b inevitable that I will get it! Just a case of when I suppose x" Don't give up. Your health is as important as theirs. This is what pisses me off. Self centred cunts! Stand up for yourself my love. | |||
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"Why can't the supermarkets bring back the one way system in stores, I'm fed up of people walking at me and not sticking to one side " They are really slack at my local Sainsbury's atm. They used to be so on it as well. | |||
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"Why can't the supermarkets bring back the one way system in stores, I'm fed up of people walking at me and not sticking to one side " They never had it in sainsbury as wide isles x | |||
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"Lots of things make us cross and frustrated by people's behaviour and generally with what's going on in the world atm. So let's blow off some steam, no need to get narky because someone has a differing opinion to yourself. I'll start. If you can't wear a mask and insist on going into a shop to purchase something that isn't actually essential don't make members of staff feel like an idiot. Just get a lanyard ffs. And keep out of their 2 metre space. Shop staff have as much right to protect their health as much as everyone else. "Feck the lanyard. They are bought off ebay by selfish twats. This is getting too serious to pander to the buggers who wont wear one... as said if you cant wear one stop the fuck at home. That's my rant  | |||
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"Why can't the supermarkets bring back the one way system in stores, I'm fed up of people walking at me and not sticking to one side " Therein lies another rant from me. The amount of people who can't follow arrows ffs x | |||
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"What really annoys me is the groups of people standing around in the park socialising, no social distancing, I’m in a tier 4 area, they are clearly not sticking to the meeting one person from another household rule and there are so many doing it no wonder we have a problem here." Spot on...the parks are busier then the shops lately. I think masks should be worn if this is as contagious as they are saying | |||
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"What really annoys me is the groups of people standing around in the park socialising, no social distancing, I’m in a tier 4 area, they are clearly not sticking to the meeting one person from another household rule and there are so many doing it no wonder we have a problem here." With you on this one, along with the queues for takeaway pints, no SD and obvious not from the same household then either stand in their large groups on the pavement or go to the park to drink | |||
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"What really annoys me is the groups of people standing around in the park socialising, no social distancing, I’m in a tier 4 area, they are clearly not sticking to the meeting one person from another household rule and there are so many doing it no wonder we have a problem here." That leads me to the groups of teenagers who won't take it seriously and hang out in large groups in the parks | |||
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"What really annoys me is the groups of people standing around in the park socialising, no social distancing, I’m in a tier 4 area, they are clearly not sticking to the meeting one person from another household rule and there are so many doing it no wonder we have a problem here. That leads me to the groups of teenagers who won't take it seriously and hang out in large groups in the parks" Here it is adults, I can’t remember the last time I saw kids out without a parent other than walking home from school | |||
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" Feck the lanyard. They are bought off ebay by selfish twats. This is getting too serious to pander to the buggers who wont wear one... as said if you cant wear one stop the fuck at home. That's my rant "100% | |||
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"What really annoys me is the groups of people standing around in the park socialising, no social distancing, I’m in a tier 4 area, they are clearly not sticking to the meeting one person from another household rule and there are so many doing it no wonder we have a problem here. That leads me to the groups of teenagers who won't take it seriously and hang out in large groups in the parks Here it is adults, I can’t remember the last time I saw kids out without a parent other than walking home from school " They should know better... Here Its the secondary school kids who are bored from being left at home to entertain themselves | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. " Sorry, didn't mean to make to feel bad. | |||
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"Lots of things make us cross and frustrated by people's behaviour and generally with what's going on in the world atm. So let's blow off some steam, no need to get narky because someone has a differing opinion to yourself. I'll start. If you can't wear a mask and insist on going into a shop to purchase something that isn't actually essential don't make members of staff feel like an idiot. Just get a lanyard ffs. And keep out of their 2 metre space. Shop staff have as much right to protect their health as much as everyone else.
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They are bought off ebay by selfish twats. This is getting too serious to pander to the buggers who wont wear one... as said if you cant wear one stop the fuck at home.
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"What really annoys me is the groups of people standing around in the park socialising, no social distancing, I’m in a tier 4 area, they are clearly not sticking to the meeting one person from another household rule and there are so many doing it no wonder we have a problem here." Annoys me to | |||
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"Celebrities having two weeks in the Maldives under the guise of a business trip. Gits. " Oh god yes. Nicola Adams you mean? | |||
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"So many meets on here during lockdowns and tiers this site should not be allowed until the mess is sorted out I work for nhs and have to wear a mask all the time but I'm used to it but I still see everyone getting together and meeting up as if things was normal some people just don't care " Can i ask, how many masks do you go through at work each day please? | |||
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"Was this post put on so everyone can rant at others or out rant each other? Whilst I will always wear a mask where compulsory, nobody can say that there are no exceptions and you cannot force people to stay indoors because they are unable to wear a mask. Actually, just remind me what does the face covering actually achieve. I know but do you? See, 12 months ago, if you were told that every one in the country would be controlled, not only by officialdom but also your friends, colleagues and neighbours, you'd have said impossible but here we are, rushing at the speed of Usain Bolt to be controlled and bullying others to do what they say is right. Yes, certain countries have done better than us but they're either sparsely populated or draconian measures in place. Let's go the whole hog and stop democracy and have one final vote for losing our freedom forever. For my part, I still believe that people are allowed an opinion and there is mis information on both sides of the argument. I can understand the reasons behind the anti and pro vaxxers but is it possible that it can be done without name calling and saying people are selfish because they have a choice which remember, AT THE MOMENT, there are differing opinions and apparently now differing facts. Let's see who can out rant whom. I think I already know who can but I'll sit back and see if I'm right " No I didn't post this so people can out rant others. And obviously no one can force others to stay inside. But as adults we have to take some personal responsibility otherwise we have no chance of ever getting out the other side of this mess. Don't you find certain things frustrating atm? | |||
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"Disabled people who can't wear masks are quite entitled to go and fetch Thier own shopping.Most will be keeping Thier trips to a minimum. What a judgemental lot you are. " Well said. | |||
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"So many meets on here during lockdowns and tiers this site should not be allowed until the mess is sorted out I work for nhs and have to wear a mask all the time but I'm used to it but I still see everyone getting together and meeting up as if things was normal some people just don't care Can i ask, how many masks do you go through at work each day please? " Every two hours | |||
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"Lots of things make us cross and frustrated by people's behaviour and generally with what's going on in the world atm. So let's blow off some steam, no need to get narky because someone has a differing opinion to yourself. I'll start. If you can't wear a mask and insist on going into a shop to purchase something that isn't actually essential don't make members of staff feel like an idiot. Just get a lanyard ffs. And keep out of their 2 metre space. Shop staff have as much right to protect their health as much as everyone else.
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They are bought off ebay by selfish twats. This is getting too serious to pander to the buggers who wont wear one... as said if you cant wear one stop the fuck at home.
That's my rant "Yup, by your standards I'm a selfish twat then. My rant? A little tolerance and understanding wouldn't go amiss from a lot of self righteous people on here.  | |||
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"What really annoys me is the groups of people standing around in the park socialising, no social distancing, I’m in a tier 4 area, they are clearly not sticking to the meeting one person from another household rule and there are so many doing it no wonder we have a problem here. That leads me to the groups of teenagers who won't take it seriously and hang out in large groups in the parks Here it is adults, I can’t remember the last time I saw kids out without a parent other than walking home from school " Yes it’s adults doing this here too | |||
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"Respect other people’s points of view ... I’m not getting vaccinated and I seriously have doubts about this whole scamdemic but that’s my point of view so respect .... don’t be arse holes and be nasty cos my view is different "This
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"Was this post put on so everyone can rant at others or out rant each other? Whilst I will always wear a mask where compulsory, nobody can say that there are no exceptions and you cannot force people to stay indoors because they are unable to wear a mask. Actually, just remind me what does the face covering actually achieve. I know but do you? See, 12 months ago, if you were told that every one in the country would be controlled, not only by officialdom but also your friends, colleagues and neighbours, you'd have said impossible but here we are, rushing at the speed of Usain Bolt to be controlled and bullying others to do what they say is right. Yes, certain countries have done better than us but they're either sparsely populated or draconian measures in place. Let's go the whole hog and stop democracy and have one final vote for losing our freedom forever. For my part, I still believe that people are allowed an opinion and there is mis information on both sides of the argument. I can understand the reasons behind the anti and pro vaxxers but is it possible that it can be done without name calling and saying people are selfish because they have a choice which remember, AT THE MOMENT, there are differing opinions and apparently now differing facts. Let's see who can out rant whom. I think I already know who can but I'll sit back and see if I'm right No I didn't post this so people can out rant others. And obviously no one can force others to stay inside. But as adults we have to take some personal responsibility otherwise we have no chance of ever getting out the other side of this mess. Don't you find certain things frustrating atm? " Yes, tbf, I find lots of things frustrating. However, I find it more frustrating that these Well intentioned posts end up with nsne calling, such foul uncalled for derogatory language. You can tell the venom in many rants by their language and tone. You can almost hear them shouting. I was once taught by a very well known figure who was a household name and still revered in some quarters that when you start to shout, you've lost the argument. It's very frustrating that some won't accept others have an opinion. Opinions are just that. Their opinion. I'd love the thread to be debated in a decent manner without derogatory language and guilt tripping. We will get out of this mess but certainly not by multiple threads on a swingers site knocking others. We'll get out of this mess when we're compliant. | |||
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"Respect other people’s points of view ... I’m not getting vaccinated and I seriously have doubts about this whole scamdemic but that’s my point of view so respect .... don’t be arse holes and be nasty cos my view is different "Everyone has different opinions on things, I agree, there is no need for nastiness just because it differs from your own. The forums have become a very unpleasant place to be in some cases recently. | |||
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"Was this post put on so everyone can rant at others or out rant each other? Whilst I will always wear a mask where compulsory, nobody can say that there are no exceptions and you cannot force people to stay indoors because they are unable to wear a mask. Actually, just remind me what does the face covering actually achieve. I know but do you? See, 12 months ago, if you were told that every one in the country would be controlled, not only by officialdom but also your friends, colleagues and neighbours, you'd have said impossible but here we are, rushing at the speed of Usain Bolt to be controlled and bullying others to do what they say is right. Yes, certain countries have done better than us but they're either sparsely populated or draconian measures in place. Let's go the whole hog and stop democracy and have one final vote for losing our freedom forever. For my part, I still believe that people are allowed an opinion and there is mis information on both sides of the argument. I can understand the reasons behind the anti and pro vaxxers but is it possible that it can be done without name calling and saying people are selfish because they have a choice which remember, AT THE MOMENT, there are differing opinions and apparently now differing facts. Let's see who can out rant whom. I think I already know who can but I'll sit back and see if I'm right No I didn't post this so people can out rant others. And obviously no one can force others to stay inside. But as adults we have to take some personal responsibility otherwise we have no chance of ever getting out the other side of this mess. Don't you find certain things frustrating atm? Yes, tbf, I find lots of things frustrating. However, I find it more frustrating that these Well intentioned posts end up with nsne calling, such foul uncalled for derogatory language. You can tell the venom in many rants by their language and tone. You can almost hear them shouting. I was once taught by a very well known figure who was a household name and still revered in some quarters that when you start to shout, you've lost the argument. It's very frustrating that some won't accept others have an opinion. Opinions are just that. Their opinion. I'd love the thread to be debated in a decent manner without derogatory language and guilt tripping. We will get out of this mess but certainly not by multiple threads on a swingers site knocking others. We'll get out of this mess when we're compliant. " A good old adult debate would be nice the trouble is not enough adults on here just too many immature baby's but you try a good debate would be fun | |||
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"Respect other people’s points of view ... I’m not getting vaccinated and I seriously have doubts about this whole scamdemic but that’s my point of view so respect .... don’t be arse holes and be nasty cos my view is different
Everyone has different opinions on things, I agree, there is no need for nastiness just because it differs from your own. The forums have become a very unpleasant place to be in some cases recently. "Yes they have | |||
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"Was this post put on so everyone can rant at others or out rant each other? Whilst I will always wear a mask where compulsory, nobody can say that there are no exceptions and you cannot force people to stay indoors because they are unable to wear a mask. Actually, just remind me what does the face covering actually achieve. I know but do you? See, 12 months ago, if you were told that every one in the country would be controlled, not only by officialdom but also your friends, colleagues and neighbours, you'd have said impossible but here we are, rushing at the speed of Usain Bolt to be controlled and bullying others to do what they say is right. Yes, certain countries have done better than us but they're either sparsely populated or draconian measures in place. Let's go the whole hog and stop democracy and have one final vote for losing our freedom forever. For my part, I still believe that people are allowed an opinion and there is mis information on both sides of the argument. I can understand the reasons behind the anti and pro vaxxers but is it possible that it can be done without name calling and saying people are selfish because they have a choice which remember, AT THE MOMENT, there are differing opinions and apparently now differing facts. Let's see who can out rant whom. I think I already know who can but I'll sit back and see if I'm right No I didn't post this so people can out rant others. And obviously no one can force others to stay inside. But as adults we have to take some personal responsibility otherwise we have no chance of ever getting out the other side of this mess. Don't you find certain things frustrating atm? Yes, tbf, I find lots of things frustrating. However, I find it more frustrating that these Well intentioned posts end up with nsne calling, such foul uncalled for derogatory language. You can tell the venom in many rants by their language and tone. You can almost hear them shouting. I was once taught by a very well known figure who was a household name and still revered in some quarters that when you start to shout, you've lost the argument. It's very frustrating that some won't accept others have an opinion. Opinions are just that. Their opinion. I'd love the thread to be debated in a decent manner without derogatory language and guilt tripping. We will get out of this mess but certainly not by multiple threads on a swingers site knocking others. We'll get out of this mess when we're compliant. A good old adult debate would be nice the trouble is not enough adults on here just too many immature baby's but you try a good debate would be fun " Can't disagree with that | |||
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"Respect other people’s points of view ... I’m not getting vaccinated and I seriously have doubts about this whole scamdemic but that’s my point of view so respect .... don’t be arse holes and be nasty cos my view is different
Everyone has different opinions on things, I agree, there is no need for nastiness just because it differs from your own. The forums have become a very unpleasant place to be in some cases recently. "The problem is lots of people can't handle the truth and listen to someone's opinion about certain topics with out getting nasty or defensive about it people need to grow up and stop acting like spoilt brats | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask." So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? " No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask." And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. " This is true no one should b penalized for having a disability x | |||
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"Respect other people’s points of view ... I’m not getting vaccinated and I seriously have doubts about this whole scamdemic but that’s my point of view so respect .... don’t be arse holes and be nasty cos my view is different
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"What really annoys me is the groups of people standing around in the park socialising, no social distancing, I’m in a tier 4 area, they are clearly not sticking to the meeting one person from another household rule and there are so many doing it no wonder we have a problem here. That leads me to the groups of teenagers who won't take it seriously and hang out in large groups in the parks Here it is adults, I can’t remember the last time I saw kids out without a parent other than walking home from school They should know better... Here Its the secondary school kids who are bored from being left at home to entertain themselves" They should but my walk yesterday after dropping my kid at his fathers, through the park, past the pubs you wouldn’t think we were in T4 the amount of groups out in large numbers, add to that drinking groups it’s a shit show to put it bluntly | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask." Errrrrrrr no ....... ever suffered with anxiety??? | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. Errrrrrrr no ....... ever suffered with anxiety???" I suffer from anxiety and bad asthma and still wear a mask. Rather be anxious than dead thanks. | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. " Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. This is true no one should b penalized for having a disability x" No disability stops you stringing a piece of cloth between your ears, except perhaps not having ears, in which case you buy a mask that ties behind your head. | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes." That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X" Of course they should be challenged if it is a case of life or death. Are you saying it doesn't matter if someone doesn't wear a mask? | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X Of course they should be challenged if it is a case of life or death. Are you saying it doesn't matter if someone doesn't wear a mask?" Of course if for whatever reason they are unable to ! X | |||
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"You’d have thought after 4 years of people calling each other names over brexit and it having absolutely no effect apart from people becoming more entrenched in their views that they’d realise it doesn’t work." It will never work the problem is the human race can't get on with eachother we are always arguing and fighting with eachother rather than coming together as a unit and working together and getting along with one another which will never happen | |||
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"You’d have thought after 4 years of people calling each other names over brexit and it having absolutely no effect apart from people becoming more entrenched in their views that they’d realise it doesn’t work." Very true! X | |||
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"Any kind of double standards. People who moan about their opinion being shot down who then go on to do the same to others. Or people who moan at others for being judgemental who are then judgemental in return. " Spot on | |||
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"You’d have thought after 4 years of people calling each other names over brexit and it having absolutely no effect apart from people becoming more entrenched in their views that they’d realise it doesn’t work. It will never work the problem is the human race can't get on with eachother we are always arguing and fighting with eachother rather than coming together as a unit and working together and getting along with one another which will never happen " True again we humans are vile creatures! X | |||
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"I go shopping in Paris all the time and I have not seen a single person in a shop who wasn't wearing a mask. You just won't get past the security on the door without a mask. I don't know what it is about the British who have to define themselves by their disabilities. Same with the blue badge, it's like it confers some kind of vip status. " Jesus christ! X | |||
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"Rant no.3 Anyone who is cautious, concerned or sceptical about the current crop of Covid vaccines is immediately ridiculed or lumped in with the crackpot anti-vaxxers! Big pharma has form with lawsuits worldwide numbering £billions. They have proven time and again over 60-70yrs they cannot be trusted. Combine that with a Govt that cannot be trusted and who can blame people gor having some concerns. Latest fuck up - actually ignoring the advice of Pfizer re 21 day b/w 1st & 2nd dose and looking at 12 weeks. Even considering possibility of mixing vaccines! Sorry if that concerns people but if it does it doesn’t mean they all think 5G masts are to blame and Bill Gates is trying to stick a chip in you!!!!!" Bring in 5g faster downloads it's no more harmful than a microwave And gamma and X-ray is way more harmful than 5g | |||
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"Respect other people’s points of view ... I’m not getting vaccinated and I seriously have doubts about this whole scamdemic but that’s my point of view so respect .... don’t be arse holes and be nasty cos my view is different
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"You’d have thought after 4 years of people calling each other names over brexit and it having absolutely no effect apart from people becoming more entrenched in their views that they’d realise it doesn’t work. It will never work the problem is the human race can't get on with eachother we are always arguing and fighting with eachother rather than coming together as a unit and working together and getting along with one another which will never happen True again we humans are vile creatures! X" I must say you have a lovely profile and very nice photos too X | |||
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"Little reminder of the OP "So let's blow off some steam, no need to get narky because someone has a differing opinion to yourself" Should of known better. " Lady lick do another one maybe we all can have a proper adult debate | |||
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"How the government expect parents working from home to also educate their children at the same time. It will be impossible for so many parents. Also what if wifi signal isn't reliable, how do online classes work? Thank goodness we don't have primary school aged children and don't have that added pressure and worry." Also why can't gov make home schooling in virus times be pro choice, if they don't want them to go then the parents shouldn't be penalised for keeping them home | |||
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"How the government expect parents working from home to also educate their children at the same time. It will be impossible for so many parents. Also what if wifi signal isn't reliable, how do online classes work? Thank goodness we don't have primary school aged children and don't have that added pressure and worry. Also why can't gov make home schooling in virus times be pro choice, if they don't want them to go then the parents shouldn't be penalised for keeping them home" For most, home schooling means no schooling. | |||
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"One thing that makes me very cross is journalists. There is no need for them to travel to another country, or indeed another part of this country just to do a piece to camera. If news was restricted to one newsreader in a studio, and all the rest were furloughed, I suspect the media narrative might be different" What's good goose ain't good for the gander it was the same thing with the cafe near me everyone wearing no mask to eat a slice of cake and have a brew they should of been takeout only And gyms should of never re opened because they didn't have no masks on in the gym either | |||
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"How the government expect parents working from home to also educate their children at the same time. It will be impossible for so many parents. Also what if wifi signal isn't reliable, how do online classes work? Thank goodness we don't have primary school aged children and don't have that added pressure and worry. Also why can't gov make home schooling in virus times be pro choice, if they don't want them to go then the parents shouldn't be penalised for keeping them home For most, home schooling means no schooling." That is true, but for some home schooling is preferable than not social distancing in school and yet they risk a fine for not sending them in, they don't want to deregister them and lose a school place in the future | |||
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"How the government expect parents working from home to also educate their children at the same time. It will be impossible for so many parents. Also what if wifi signal isn't reliable, how do online classes work? Thank goodness we don't have primary school aged children and don't have that added pressure and worry. Also why can't gov make home schooling in virus times be pro choice, if they don't want them to go then the parents shouldn't be penalised for keeping them home" Do the schools then still have to provide the education materials for those at home or is it left to the parents to teach what they decide. If it’s the former that’s just adding to the workload if the teachers, designing two different lessons for each class across the years. | |||
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"How the government expect parents working from home to also educate their children at the same time. It will be impossible for so many parents. Also what if wifi signal isn't reliable, how do online classes work? Thank goodness we don't have primary school aged children and don't have that added pressure and worry. Also why can't gov make home schooling in virus times be pro choice, if they don't want them to go then the parents shouldn't be penalised for keeping them home Do the schools then still have to provide the education materials for those at home or is it left to the parents to teach what they decide. If it’s the former that’s just adding to the workload if the teachers, designing two different lessons for each class across the years. " I wouldn't have said its up to the school to do it tbh, the shielding kids at school get a work pack each week with help for the parents, but that's it. Its all basic stuff and parents tend to do other stuff with them as well. | |||
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"How the government expect parents working from home to also educate their children at the same time. It will be impossible for so many parents. Also what if wifi signal isn't reliable, how do online classes work? Thank goodness we don't have primary school aged children and don't have that added pressure and worry. Also why can't gov make home schooling in virus times be pro choice, if they don't want them to go then the parents shouldn't be penalised for keeping them home Do the schools then still have to provide the education materials for those at home or is it left to the parents to teach what they decide. If it’s the former that’s just adding to the workload if the teachers, designing two different lessons for each class across the years. I wouldn't have said its up to the school to do it tbh, the shielding kids at school get a work pack each week with help for the parents, but that's it. Its all basic stuff and parents tend to do other stuff with them as well. " I agree it shouldn’t be the schools responsibility if a parent choose to keep them out of school to provide the education. | |||
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"One thing that makes me very cross is journalists. There is no need for them to travel to another country, or indeed another part of this country just to do a piece to camera. If news was restricted to one newsreader in a studio, and all the rest were furloughed, I suspect the media narrative might be different" ?? couldn't have put it better myself | |||
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"Respect other people’s points of view ... I’m not getting vaccinated and I seriously have doubts about this whole scamdemic but that’s my point of view so respect .... don’t be arse holes and be nasty cos my view is different "Agree totally | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. " People seem to forget that for some people, their lives have been turned upside down and they are unable to make sense of why. Perhaps that trip to the shop is the only part of their usual routine that can remain. To not have that would be even more detrimental to their wellbeing. People with Autism or sensory difficulties may also struggle with masks and indeed even the lanyard wearing. Many stores were providing autism hours before covid, I'm not sure if these are still happening or not either. | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask." And if you're incapable of wearing a mask? There are very legitimate exemptions and it's not up to you. That's your opinion | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. " Very true.. But if you're incapable of wearing a mask, what's the alternative? | |||
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"My rant (one of many) This UK Govt is using the pandemic as an excuse for a dramatic increase in Executive power at the expense of the Legislature and Judiciary. Our “democracy” is increasingly a facade! " Possibly | |||
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"its the masks issue for me. its draining seeing non mask wearers in my work. I think lanyards should be worn even if they are bought on ebay as chances are a group tradesmen wearing a lanyard is going to be less cool than wearing a mask. eating and drinking in the shop and even worse leaving it on shelves half eaten or d*unk. And finally people claiming plants or paint was needed for their mental well being allowing big companies to stay open and cash in. click and collect or deliverys is the safest way. I also hate that I am moaning on forums its not in my nature." So you now consider that disabled people should be publicly discriminated by wearing a lanyard? Isn't there already laws against that? | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. Errrrrrrr no ....... ever suffered with anxiety???" Clearly not | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes." That isn't the law but it appears the free government policemen think so. You do realise you're walking right into the hands of the government to start give them the full support of draconian laws that they'll keep long after Covid. | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. This is true no one should b penalized for having a disability x No disability stops you stringing a piece of cloth between your ears, except perhaps not having ears, in which case you buy a mask that ties behind your head." In YOUR opinion. In law, why are there exemptions then? If you're too concerned about the exempted people in supermarkets, then stay at home and do on line shopping as people are saying that exempted people should do. | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X" Exactly. There are very valid laws to protect the disabled just as much as racist and females | |||
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"Rant no.2 This UK Govt has used those “emergency executive powers” to circumvent public sector procurement checks & balances to enable a monumental transfer of state assets (our tax money) to the private sector companies run by their cronies. But due to my earlier point - nothing will be done about it! This is a heist and the opportunistic thieves cannot believe their luck that we have this pandemic!" Absolutely correct | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X Of course they should be challenged if it is a case of life or death. Are you saying it doesn't matter if someone doesn't wear a mask?" There is nobody allowed to challenge except the police. No visible signs are needed to be shown. You are going against the law by making such a crass statement. Make any outrageous statement then end it with, 'if it costs kives' makes it ok? There are people with mental health issues that you're now openly discriminating against. | |||
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"Rant no.3 Anyone who is cautious, concerned or sceptical about the current crop of Covid vaccines is immediately ridiculed or lumped in with the crackpot anti-vaxxers! Big pharma has form with lawsuits worldwide numbering £billions. They have proven time and again over 60-70yrs they cannot be trusted. Combine that with a Govt that cannot be trusted and who can blame people gor having some concerns. Latest fuck up - actually ignoring the advice of Pfizer re 21 day b/w 1st & 2nd dose and looking at 12 weeks. Even considering possibility of mixing vaccines! Sorry if that concerns people but if it does it doesn’t mean they all think 5G masts are to blame and Bill Gates is trying to stick a chip in you!!!!!" | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X Of course they should be challenged if it is a case of life or death. Are you saying it doesn't matter if someone doesn't wear a mask? Of course if for whatever reason they are unable to ! X" Go on try it and break the law. It's discrimination at the worst degree. Just to say, I always wear a mask when required to do so but I also accept that there are people who cannot and you're attempting to class them as 2nd class citizens | |||
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"Of course everyone who *can* wear a mask *should* be doing so, and they should be wearing them properly as well as maintaining appropriate social distancing. Quite obviously there is a minority who *don't* wear masks (either at all, or correctly) even though they have no good reason not to and they deserve to be criticised for their selfishness. However, contrary to some people's belief there is also a minority of people who have genuine reasons for not wearing a mask, and it's utterly unfair and unkind to berate them. I accept it's often very difficult to distinguish between the 'can'ts' and the 'won'ts' (and quite rightly, many in the can't category feel uncomfortable having to justify what could be a highly personal reason) but it seems the imagination and empathy of some who refuse to think outside their own circumstances is severely lacking lately.... ... not everyone who genuinely can't wear a mask is able to stay at home, or able to rely upon friends/family/online shopping for their needs. And as for genuine reasons, off the top of my head just two could include (and I'm sure there are many more) masks being a trigger for PTSD (e.g. following sexual assault where the victim was gagged, or hand over mouth etc), or trigeminal neuralgia where the very slightest touch to a sufferer's face can prompt agonising and lasting pain (so masks, visors, hats, scarves and so on are impossible to bear for even a second). If I see someone without a mask when I'm in the supermarket then I avoid them. But I'm also doing my best to avoid anyone and everyone though unfortunately it seems a great many appear to think that actually wearing a mask completely absolves them from having to distance at all. And *that*, not keeping your distance, because you can't be arsed to wait a few seconds to access the shelf I'm currently picking from, is, I'm sure, far more likely to spread the virus than someone without a mask who at least doesn't invade my space. " Thank you. A voice of reason. Well said | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. People seem to forget that for some people, their lives have been turned upside down and they are unable to make sense of why. Perhaps that trip to the shop is the only part of their usual routine that can remain. To not have that would be even more detrimental to their wellbeing. People with Autism or sensory difficulties may also struggle with masks and indeed even the lanyard wearing. Many stores were providing autism hours before covid, I'm not sure if these are still happening or not either. " But why should they have to keep to specific times. They said before that pensioners can shop early. Are you serious? Why would I get up early to shop because I'm a pensioner. I get up when I want and shop when I want. | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. People seem to forget that for some people, their lives have been turned upside down and they are unable to make sense of why. Perhaps that trip to the shop is the only part of their usual routine that can remain. To not have that would be even more detrimental to their wellbeing. People with Autism or sensory difficulties may also struggle with masks and indeed even the lanyard wearing. Many stores were providing autism hours before covid, I'm not sure if these are still happening or not either. But why should they have to keep to specific times. They said before that pensioners can shop early. Are you serious? Why would I get up early to shop because I'm a pensioner. I get up when I want and shop when I want. " I'm not saying people should shop at certain times. I'm referring to stores that would have quieter shopping hours for people with autism or sensory difficulties. Lights would be turned down, music off, less people around. Generally ways to be make the supermarket less overwhelming. I'd hope these times are still offered, however I expect in many cases they may not be | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. People seem to forget that for some people, their lives have been turned upside down and they are unable to make sense of why. Perhaps that trip to the shop is the only part of their usual routine that can remain. To not have that would be even more detrimental to their wellbeing. People with Autism or sensory difficulties may also struggle with masks and indeed even the lanyard wearing. Many stores were providing autism hours before covid, I'm not sure if these are still happening or not either. But why should they have to keep to specific times. They said before that pensioners can shop early. Are you serious? Why would I get up early to shop because I'm a pensioner. I get up when I want and shop when I want. I'm not saying people should shop at certain times. I'm referring to stores that would have quieter shopping hours for people with autism or sensory difficulties. Lights would be turned down, music off, less people around. Generally ways to be make the supermarket less overwhelming. I'd hope these times are still offered, however I expect in many cases they may not be " I’ve got to be honest, I’ve not seen any reference to these special shopping times for months | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. People seem to forget that for some people, their lives have been turned upside down and they are unable to make sense of why. Perhaps that trip to the shop is the only part of their usual routine that can remain. To not have that would be even more detrimental to their wellbeing. People with Autism or sensory difficulties may also struggle with masks and indeed even the lanyard wearing. Many stores were providing autism hours before covid, I'm not sure if these are still happening or not either. But why should they have to keep to specific times. They said before that pensioners can shop early. Are you serious? Why would I get up early to shop because I'm a pensioner. I get up when I want and shop when I want. " They don’t ‘have to’ but they were designed to hopefully make it a more pleasurable experience for them | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. " Unfortunately the people on threads like this never reply to comments like this because they have nothing to say. they think they are being clever by saying if you are disabled you should stay-at-home and have online shopping. Dave would see it differently if they had a disability or condition that made it impossible for them to wear a mask. What These people don't seem to realise is the exemptions are there for a reason if there wasn't valid reasons why some people couldn't wear one there wouldn't be any exemption at all. | |||
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"You’d have thought after 4 years of people calling each other names over brexit and it having absolutely no effect apart from people becoming more entrenched in their views that they’d realise it doesn’t work. It will never work the problem is the human race can't get on with eachother we are always arguing and fighting with eachother rather than coming together as a unit and working together and getting along with one another which will never happen True again we humans are vile creatures! X I must say you have a lovely profile and very nice photos too X" Y ty x | |||
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"You’d have thought after 4 years of people calling each other names over brexit and it having absolutely no effect apart from people becoming more entrenched in their views that they’d realise it doesn’t work. It will never work the problem is the human race can't get on with eachother we are always arguing and fighting with eachother rather than coming together as a unit and working together and getting along with one another which will never happen True again we humans are vile creatures! X I must say you have a lovely profile and very nice photos too X Y ty x" Your welcome X | |||
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"Life is tough We humans think we are special and the world was made for us, i grew up in the story of modern Ireland, every decade was perfect for my age, 60s when i was a child with parents to raise me in a prosperous but not materialistic Time, 70s when we wore flayred trousers and I loved slade, 80s when the music was so brilliant but we all had to go to England to work as not much in Ireland, but what we learned there, 90s back in Ireland and things are starting to pick up and our kids are born, noughties and things are booming, kids are growing up and we have money to send them to 3rd level, also lucky we bought our house when they were affordable, 20teens came through the crash with our children highly educated, and no harm they saw a little bit of tough times, life has been good so far, now all we have to do is keep our heads down for another few months until the vaccine comes to the rescue, see what happens then " | |||
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"No mask, no entry." and that incudes the shop workers. No mask no job. It OK for them to spit all over your fruit...... | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. Unfortunately the people on threads like this never reply to comments like this because they have nothing to say. they think they are being clever by saying if you are disabled you should stay-at-home and have online shopping. Dave would see it differently if they had a disability or condition that made it impossible for them to wear a mask. What These people don't seem to realise is the exemptions are there for a reason if there wasn't valid reasons why some people couldn't wear one there wouldn't be any exemption at all. " I stand by my original point. If you can wear clothes, you can wear a mask. Shops don't provide a special hour when people can shop naked because they are too anxious to wear clothes. | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. Errrrrrrr no ....... ever suffered with anxiety???" Clearly not lol. X | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. Unfortunately the people on threads like this never reply to comments like this because they have nothing to say. they think they are being clever by saying if you are disabled you should stay-at-home and have online shopping. Dave would see it differently if they had a disability or condition that made it impossible for them to wear a mask. What These people don't seem to realise is the exemptions are there for a reason if there wasn't valid reasons why some people couldn't wear one there wouldn't be any exemption at all. " Absolutely correct | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. Unfortunately the people on threads like this never reply to comments like this because they have nothing to say. they think they are being clever by saying if you are disabled you should stay-at-home and have online shopping. Dave would see it differently if they had a disability or condition that made it impossible for them to wear a mask. What These people don't seem to realise is the exemptions are there for a reason if there wasn't valid reasons why some people couldn't wear one there wouldn't be any exemption at all. I stand by my original point. If you can wear clothes, you can wear a mask. Shops don't provide a special hour when people can shop naked because they are too anxious to wear clothes. " Stand by whatever you want to but if you're that scared of catching Covid from the occasional person that is allowed to go into places without wearing a face covering, then you stay away, you do your shopping on line. Go on, do it for a week and see how you feel. The LAW, irrespective of what YOU want allows exceptions for a variety of medical and mental health issues. You, even in France, don't live in a dictatorship, well I daresay it feels like it but you don't. Plus, you've absolutely no influence whatsoever over here. | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. Unfortunately the people on threads like this never reply to comments like this because they have nothing to say. they think they are being clever by saying if you are disabled you should stay-at-home and have online shopping. Dave would see it differently if they had a disability or condition that made it impossible for them to wear a mask. What These people don't seem to realise is the exemptions are there for a reason if there wasn't valid reasons why some people couldn't wear one there wouldn't be any exemption at all. I stand by my original point. If you can wear clothes, you can wear a mask. Shops don't provide a special hour when people can shop naked because they are too anxious to wear clothes. You really have no clue and are totally ignorant of mental health issues some people may have. Just because you can't see a disability, doesn't mean it's not there. Unbelievable in this day and age. Compassion and tolerance are maybe two words some people need to learn on here. I'm utterly disgusted that some are so narrow minded and bigoted on here. You should all be ashamed of your bullying tactics. " As far as I can tell, he's openly discriminating against disabled people which we, in this country, have laws against | |||
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"Agree. If medical staff can wear one all shift then others should. Hubby is exempt but still wears one if he goes shopping. It's not like they stop you breathing. In some countries there's no such thing as exemption, you wear one or you stay in your own home I disagree. My daughter has learning disabilities and cannot wear one. I am her carer, which means I can't go to the shop for groceries without her. Don't make things more hard for disabled people than they already are by saying they should stay home if they can't wear a mask. Exemptions are there for a reason. Unfortunately the people on threads like this never reply to comments like this because they have nothing to say. they think they are being clever by saying if you are disabled you should stay-at-home and have online shopping. Dave would see it differently if they had a disability or condition that made it impossible for them to wear a mask. What These people don't seem to realise is the exemptions are there for a reason if there wasn't valid reasons why some people couldn't wear one there wouldn't be any exemption at all. I stand by my original point. If you can wear clothes, you can wear a mask. Shops don't provide a special hour when people can shop naked because they are too anxious to wear clothes. You really have no clue and are totally ignorant of mental health issues some people may have. Just because you can't see a disability, doesn't mean it's not there. Unbelievable in this day and age. Compassion and tolerance are maybe two words some people need to learn on here. I'm utterly disgusted that some are so narrow minded and bigoted on here. You should all be ashamed of your bullying tactics. As far as I can tell, he's openly discriminating against disabled people which we, in this country, have laws against " I totally agree with you on this point. | |||
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"I have a question here that I dont understand with the measures with masks and that is with restaurants and cafes, should people really be sitting outside of them with no masks, whilst the other walking past have to have it on? " They are not compulsory outside. Inside they are. X | |||
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"If you can wear a mask in a shop (because of the current laws.) Why is it that lots of people when leaving a store, will remove their mask on the street? Do these people think that the virus only likes to infect people while indoors, and only after 10pm." Why is it that you don't understand masks. They're only effective for about 20 minutes. What's the point in wearing a mask that has no use? Where's this 10pm now come from. That regulation was for closing of pubs etc. | |||
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"I feel masks should be compulsory outside now too." So pointless when they are only effective for about 20 minutes. Do you wear one outside at all times? | |||
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"I feel masks should be compulsory outside now too. So pointless when they are only effective for about 20 minutes. Do you wear one outside at all times? " I do yes | |||
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"I feel masks should be compulsory outside now too. So pointless when they are only effective for about 20 minutes. Do you wear one outside at all times? " If everyone wore a mask inside or outside. It would be beneficial. As a person's germs are largely kept localised to themselves. But where only the odd person or two wear a mask. Then it's ineffective imho. | |||
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"Mask wearers still catching the virus. What more do you need to know about how ineffective masks are?" Of course mask wearers are catching the virus, they could be catching that from anywhere, from their children, from someone in the family who goes out to work...if masks only offer a little protection of transmission,surely it's better than nothing? | |||
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"Mask wearers still catching the virus. What more do you need to know about how ineffective masks are?" So when the first person to catches it after the vaccination will you think that is a waste of time too. Never are a cure but a process of trying to reduce infection from one to the other | |||
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"Mask wearers still catching the virus. What more do you need to know about how ineffective masks are? Of course mask wearers are catching the virus, they could be catching that from anywhere, from their children, from someone in the family who goes out to work...if masks only offer a little protection of transmission,surely it's better than nothing?" They are effective, a little for about 20 minutes. Masks are not there to protect the wearer! They're there to stem some of the flow but after 20 minutes they're useless. Think how thin they are and think how thick underwear and say jeans are. You can still smell a good fart even if you wear a mask | |||
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"I find it utter bullshit that we have so many restrictions as private citizens. Meanwhile, my partners industry (military contracting) is booming with little to no interruptions to its operation. He’s been all over the world this year with no hiccups or problems at all. But ordinary people are getting fined going from one tier to another in the UK. My conclusion - money talks. Always has, always will. " | |||
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"If you can wear a mask in a shop (because of the current laws.) Why is it that lots of people when leaving a store, will remove their mask on the street? Do these people think that the virus only likes to infect people while indoors, and only after 10pm." Masks are not to stop us being infected, they are to reduce the range of droplet expulsion from our mouths so reducing the viral load we transmit to each other, wear a clear visor for a hour and chat and see how much spray builds up on it. Outdoors the wind disperses droplets very effectively if you are 2m apart of course | |||
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"If you can wear a mask in a shop (because of the current laws.) Why is it that lots of people when leaving a store, will remove their mask on the street? Do these people think that the virus only likes to infect people while indoors, and only after 10pm. Masks are not to stop us being infected, they are to reduce the range of droplet expulsion from our mouths so reducing the viral load we transmit to each other, wear a clear visor for a hour and chat and see how much spray builds up on it. Outdoors the wind disperses droplets very effectively if you are 2m apart of course" | |||
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"Mask wearers still catching the virus. What more do you need to know about how ineffective masks are? Of course mask wearers are catching the virus, they could be catching that from anywhere, from their children, from someone in the family who goes out to work...if masks only offer a little protection of transmission,surely it's better than nothing? They are effective, a little for about 20 minutes. Masks are not there to protect the wearer! They're there to stem some of the flow but after 20 minutes they're useless. Think how thin they are and think how thick underwear and say jeans are. You can still smell a good fart even if you wear a mask " I wasn't aware about the 20 minutes thing, I will change it after 20 minutes | |||
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"Spacial awareness, two metres still seems impossible for some people to understand. They stand closer and closer. I see young people being moaned about a lot, I find it’s the oldies who often don’t seem to understand what 2 metres is. " Just point out that 2m is roughly the same length as a coffin. That might get the message across! Harsh I know but I agree this IS annoying! | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X" I can sort of see both sides of the argument but only taken as a partial aspect of the entire issue but what doesn't fit if you take the entire issue is... If the virus is so bad to health and is so easily transmitted which can easily kill certain demographics of society, how do we tackle the issue of potentially infected people mixing in society without a face covering having a higher chance of infecting and possibly killing others "unchallenged"? You can't do both and win. | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X I can sort of see both sides of the argument but only taken as a partial aspect of the entire issue but what doesn't fit if you take the entire issue is... If the virus is so bad to health and is so easily transmitted which can easily kill certain demographics of society, how do we tackle the issue of potentially infected people mixing in society without a face covering having a higher chance of infecting and possibly killing others "unchallenged"? You can't do both and win. " Who is entitled to challenge? | |||
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"I have a question here that I dont understand with the measures with masks and that is with restaurants and cafes, should people really be sitting outside of them with no masks, whilst the other walking past have to have it on? They are not compulsory outside. Inside they are. XThat is right. I meant, when you watch the news some countries have different measures, where it is compulsory to wear one outside and some not like here in the uk, the virus is the same everywhere so all should really follow the same measures x. So why aren't they following our measures? I am not sure or why arent we following theirs, but yes something is not adding up with it." The thinking behind some of the difference in Europe is; If you're outdoors and can maintain 2m why do you need the mask? The mask is to reduce spread when you're in close proximity 2m. If you're out alone walking in the wild why would you need a mask at all? | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X I can sort of see both sides of the argument but only taken as a partial aspect of the entire issue but what doesn't fit if you take the entire issue is... If the virus is so bad to health and is so easily transmitted which can easily kill certain demographics of society, how do we tackle the issue of potentially infected people mixing in society without a face covering having a higher chance of infecting and possibly killing others "unchallenged"? You can't do both and win. Who is entitled to challenge? " As per gov.uk “Enforcement measures for failing to comply with this law Premises where face coverings are required should take reasonable steps to promote compliance with the law. The police can take measures if members of the public do not comply with this law without a valid exemption and transport operators can deny access to their public transport services if a passenger is not wearing a face covering, or direct them to wear one or leave a service. If necessary the police and Transport for London (TfL) officers have enforcement powers, including issuing fines of £200 (reduced to £100 if paid within 14 days) for the first offence.” So for me if I owned a shop I have the right to question those trying to enter without a mask and don’t show proof of exemption | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X I can sort of see both sides of the argument but only taken as a partial aspect of the entire issue but what doesn't fit if you take the entire issue is... If the virus is so bad to health and is so easily transmitted which can easily kill certain demographics of society, how do we tackle the issue of potentially infected people mixing in society without a face covering having a higher chance of infecting and possibly killing others "unchallenged"? You can't do both and win. Who is entitled to challenge? As per gov.uk “Enforcement measures for failing to comply with this law Premises where face coverings are required should take reasonable steps to promote compliance with the law. The police can take measures if members of the public do not comply with this law without a valid exemption and transport operators can deny access to their public transport services if a passenger is not wearing a face covering, or direct them to wear one or leave a service. If necessary the police and Transport for London (TfL) officers have enforcement powers, including issuing fines of £200 (reduced to £100 if paid within 14 days) for the first offence.” So for me if I owned a shop I have the right to question those trying to enter without a mask and don’t show proof of exemption " I think sainsbury's would refuse me admission if I was barefooted | |||
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"What annoys me is people who think they are exempt from wearing a mask. If you can wear clothes you can wear a mask. So you're actually suggesting that say, people with autism or anxiety issues should walk around naked? No, I'm suggesting that if you are capable of wearing clothes you can wear a mask. And to not wear a mask means you aren't capable of wearing clothes surely? Your words, you insinuated it. Your logic is a little off. If A implies B, that doesn't mean B implies A. I'm saying that shops should not allow anybody to enter unless they are wearing a mask in the same way they don't allow people to enter without wearing clothes. That's a ridiculous statement! There are various reasons some cant wear a mask! And should never b challenged! X I can sort of see both sides of the argument but only taken as a partial aspect of the entire issue but what doesn't fit if you take the entire issue is... If the virus is so bad to health and is so easily transmitted which can easily kill certain demographics of society, how do we tackle the issue of potentially infected people mixing in society without a face covering having a higher chance of infecting and possibly killing others "unchallenged"? You can't do both and win. Who is entitled to challenge? " If you're to go down that channel of the issue then anyone at risk of being infected which is everyone. | |||
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"When going shopping, go alone. If someone in a shared home is infected, it's probable that others are too. When a household goes anywhere together, multiple infected people will shed much more of the virus than 1 person will. It's a multiplication factor of the virus load shed. Multiple people together will thus make it very much easier for others to get infected. Shop alone and don't pretend to be several solo shoppers. Just because you can, doesn't mean its not stupid and selfish. " Some people can't shop alone. They need assistance. Yet again another one size fits all non-solution. | |||
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"When going shopping, go alone. If someone in a shared home is infected, it's probable that others are too. When a household goes anywhere together, multiple infected people will shed much more of the virus than 1 person will. It's a multiplication factor of the virus load shed. Multiple people together will thus make it very much easier for others to get infected. Shop alone and don't pretend to be several solo shoppers. Just because you can, doesn't mean its not stupid and selfish. Some people can't shop alone. They need assistance. Yet again another one size fits all non-solution. "I work with people who are unable to shop alone and I fully agree, as per previous raising of this pojnt that we've posted on. The majority of the population are, I believe, still able to shop alone. If we reverted to people who can, doing this, it could reduce the potential for several people in a household shedding multiple loads of the virus in the same places, which increases the probability of others acquiring enough virus to get infected. I help people with physical and cognitive impairments to shop and they will still continue to need this support. I would be the first to decry anyone trying to force exclusions that would be devastating to many - though I appreciate your raising this essential need. | |||
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"Lots of things make us cross and frustrated by people's behaviour and generally with what's going on in the world atm. So let's blow off some steam, no need to get narky because someone has a differing opinion to yourself. I'll start. If you can't wear a mask and insist on going into a shop to purchase something that isn't actually essential don't make members of staff feel like an idiot. Just get a lanyard ffs. And keep out of their 2 metre space. Shop staff have as much right to protect their health as much as everyone else.
Feck the lanyard.
They are bought off ebay by selfish twats. This is getting too serious to pander to the buggers who wont wear one... as said if you cant wear one stop the fuck at home.
That's my rant
Yup, by your standards I'm a selfish twat then. My rant? A little tolerance and understanding wouldn't go amiss from a lot of self righteous people on here. "Just seem this You seem to love this emoji when anyone has a different view to you eh.
I know enough about people who have physical and mental Illnesses first hand thank you.
But on here I have seen by far too many kicking and screaming about wearing masks from the beginning...first it was civil rights ffs...then the same people who wear moaning on that one oddly developed a hidden disability on masks.
I accept there is a very small minority who cant for either physical or mental reasons who cant wear a mask...but they should be looked after as much as possible for thier safety and everyone elses. At the end of the day we are nearly seeing some light to a end to this....but atm the infection rate is escalating at a alarming rate...so year I stick by my rant as that was what the op invited us to do!
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"When going shopping, go alone. If someone in a shared home is infected, it's probable that others are too. When a household goes anywhere together, multiple infected people will shed much more of the virus than 1 person will. It's a multiplication factor of the virus load shed. Multiple people together will thus make it very much easier for others to get infected. Shop alone and don't pretend to be several solo shoppers. Just because you can, doesn't mean its not stupid and selfish. Some people can't shop alone. They need assistance. Yet again another one size fits all non-solution.
I work with people who are unable to shop alone and I fully agree, as per previous raising of this pojnt that we've posted on. The majority of the population are, I believe, still able to shop alone. If we reverted to people who can, doing this, it could reduce the potential for several people in a household shedding multiple loads of the virus in the same places, which increases the probability of others acquiring enough virus to get infected. I help people with physical and cognitive impairments to shop and they will still continue to need this support. I would be the first to decry anyone trying to force exclusions that would be devastating to many - though I appreciate your raising this essential need. "Agree some can’t and they’ll get the support they need. however so many others don’t need to bring mum, dad, 3 kids, grandchildren and the kitchen sink ! | |||
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"When going shopping, go alone. If someone in a shared home is infected, it's probable that others are too. When a household goes anywhere together, multiple infected people will shed much more of the virus than 1 person will. It's a multiplication factor of the virus load shed. Multiple people together will thus make it very much easier for others to get infected. Shop alone and don't pretend to be several solo shoppers. Just because you can, doesn't mean its not stupid and selfish. Some people can't shop alone. They need assistance. Yet again another one size fits all non-solution. "If the "person" can't shop alone it's fair to assume someone shops with them? Why can't that person, take a list and shop for them? | |||
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"No mask, no entry." Absofuckinglutely... no excuses now at all... exempt then wear a visor or you don’t get in. | |||
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"Respect other people’s points of view ... I’m not getting vaccinated and I seriously have doubts about this whole scamdemic but that’s my point of view so respect .... don’t be arse holes and be nasty cos my view is different "Scamdemic... seriously? Just seen my next door neighbour a few days ago on a trolley gasping for breath as being bundled into a ambulance by medics in ppe and taken some flowers round to his widow this morning... looked pretty real to me. But yes you are instilled to an opinion and hopefully you wear a mask when you go to Witherspoons. | |||
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"No mask, no entry. Absofuckinglutely... no excuses now at all... exempt then wear a visor or you don’t get in. " Jesus!!!  x | |||
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"No mask, no entry. Absofuckinglutely... no excuses now at all... exempt then wear a visor or you don’t get in. Jesus!!! x"Yes you’ll be meeting him if you don’t wear a mask x | |||
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"No mask, no entry. Absofuckinglutely... no excuses now at all... exempt then wear a visor or you don’t get in. Jesus!!! x
Yes you’ll be meeting him if you don’t wear a mask x "I wear one 5 days a week! 7 hr shifts in a supermarket ty! X | |||
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"Just googled it and is moisture after 20 mins right? So that's 3 masks an hour? So 20 a day for my shift? Yeah right! That's never gonna happen! X" That is BS....if they get a little damp it still stops a massive amount of spray leaving your mouth and nose. As a icu nurse if they change them every 20 minutes... | |||
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"No mask, no entry. Absofuckinglutely... no excuses now at all... exempt then wear a visor or you don’t get in. Jesus!!! x
Yes you’ll be meeting him if you don’t wear a mask x "and fyi I probably will b meeting him as it's the most probable place to get covid the supermarkets and as I work 5 days a week and go nowhere else and then the daughter works in the other big supermarket and still lives home and does even longer hrs! Think it's a case of when not if i get it! And with my age/asthma/diabetes what u reckon on my chances of meeting him? X | |||
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