FabSwingers.com forum: Safe

By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

Apparently many people and profiles say they wont meet until "safe"

Very commendable and a great signal of their virtue , however .......

It will never ever ever be safe

It actually never ever has been

So honourably they mean safer , ok?

But this concept is wildly grey scale

Is there an objective definition we could give to safe as for me currently its meaningless ?

For me I would not use safe I feel it's probably a misnomer

My current benchmark for the introduction of closer interactions would be when morally the risk of vulnerable people dieing from mass social interactions is considerably lower

But being under an illusion that it's safe would for me be ignorant

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"Apparently many people and profiles say they wont meet until "safe"

Very commendable and a great signal of their virtue , however .......

It will never ever ever be safe

It actually never ever has been

So honourably they mean safer , ok?

But this concept is wildly grey scale

Is there an objective definition we could give to safe as for me currently its meaningless ?

For me I would not use safe I feel it's probably a misnomer

My current benchmark for the introduction of closer interactions would be when morally the risk of vulnerable people dieing from mass social interactions is considerably lower

But being under an illusion that it's safe would for me be ignorant

I suppose it depends in how you define safe. It will certainly be just as safe as it was before this virus kicked off.

Cal

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

It’s depends how the person is trying to manipulate the situation to suit their own narrative. Safe for me means all restrictions on social interaction have been removed. I won’t fuck strangers just because I think my sex drive is more important that people’s actual lives regardless of what some selfish fab arseholes say.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

maybe they think similarly but are happy that safe gets that message across rather than the paragraphs of text it took you?

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By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"It’s depends how the person is trying to manipulate the situation to suit their own narrative. Safe for me means all restrictions on social interaction have been removed. I won’t fuck strangers just because I think my sex drive is more important that people’s actual lives regardless of what some selfish fab arseholes say. "

Apart from a countries responses or guidelines are pretty remote from my definition of safe

They relaxed the rules yet the "safe" element was unchanged

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By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Apparently many people and profiles say they wont meet until "safe"

Very commendable and a great signal of their virtue , however .......

It will never ever ever be safe

It actually never ever has been

So honourably they mean safer , ok?

But this concept is wildly grey scale

Is there an objective definition we could give to safe as for me currently its meaningless ?

For me I would not use safe I feel it's probably a misnomer

My current benchmark for the introduction of closer interactions would be when morally the risk of vulnerable people dieing from mass social interactions is considerably lower

But being under an illusion that it's safe would for me be ignorant

I suppose it depends in how you define safe. It will certainly be just as safe as it was before this virus kicked off.

Cal

That's my point

I like words to have definition

Subjective or personal opinion makes a word pretty much useless

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By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"maybe they think similarly but are happy that safe gets that message across rather than the paragraphs of text it took you? "

That's a fair point

I'm concerned that people are under an illusion that safe as I understand it actually will exist

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By *lorious hole bs16Man
over a year ago

Bristol

Many similarities to hiv/aids in the early 80s when hysteria was rampant and people were genuinely frightened, particularly around sex...Celibacy became an attractive option and safe/ safer sex was discussed ( by some!) The tory minister for health under Thatcher was Norman Fowler who asked what oral sex was??? When it was explained, he said urrh,do people actually do that?

We have progressed a little

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

"maybe they think similarly but are happy that safe gets that message across rather than the paragraphs of text it took you?

That's a fair point

I'm concerned that people are under an illusion that safe as I understand it actually will exist"

Your concept of safe is not really important, what matters is the individuals own view on what safe is.

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By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"maybe they think similarly but are happy that safe gets that message across rather than the paragraphs of text it took you?

That's a fair point

I'm concerned that people are under an illusion that safe as I understand it actually will exist

Your concept of safe is not really important, what matters is the individuals own view on what safe is."

Is it ?

Surely many convid deniers feel it's safe right now ??

Id suggest my definition of safe could be rather important when considering the exponential spread of a deadly virus ????

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Apparently many people and profiles say they wont meet until "safe"

Very commendable and a great signal of their virtue , however .......

It will never ever ever be safe

It actually never ever has been

So honourably they mean safer , ok?

But this concept is wildly grey scale

Is there an objective definition we could give to safe as for me currently its meaningless ?

For me I would not use safe I feel it's probably a misnomer

My current benchmark for the introduction of closer interactions would be when morally the risk of vulnerable people dieing from mass social interactions is considerably lower

But being under an illusion that it's safe would for me be ignorant

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No such thing as totally safe even if covid never happened.

I think you do not understand the meaning of safe does anyone?

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

Safe or safer to me given the current situation is when I feel comfortable with my efforts to mitigate the risk of catching covid 19

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Safe or safer to me given the current situation is when I feel comfortable with my efforts to mitigate the risk of catching covid 19 "

I think the same as you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My definition of safe in this context is that the risk of killing the 7 vulnerable people in my extended family by infecting them is much lower. I have no wish to get Covid either or give it to anyone else. So it will be a good while yet, but a I’ll know when I feel safe enough again.

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By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Safe or safer to me given the current situation is when I feel comfortable with my efforts to mitigate the risk of catching covid 19

I think the same as you"

Sounds sensible

Or just rhetoric???

Mitigate how ?

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By *omerset tvTV/TS
over a year ago

Weston-super-Mare

People are still meeting on FAB and FAB dont seem to be doing anything about it local fab couple to me advertised an orgy and gangbang for new years eve several days before and everyday peoples status are asking for meets so message isnt getting thru to some people either that or they really dont give a shit anymore

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

It is up to us to act in the right way,we cannot stop those that are ignorant stupid.

This applies in all areas of life

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By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"It is up to us to act in the right way,we cannot stop those that are ignorant stupid.

This applies in all areas of life"

As noted above though

"The right way" is subjective

Grandma Jones looked after her 8 year old granddaughter

I'll remember to tell her you think her ignorant and stupid

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"People are still meeting on FAB and FAB dont seem to be doing anything about it local fab couple to me advertised an orgy and gangbang for new years eve several days before and everyday peoples status are asking for meets so message isnt getting thru to some people either that or they really dont give a shit anymore"

They’re really not doing anything are they - very disappointing. All they do is block the person from you when you report but the person is still advertising meets you just can’t see them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm guessing when people feel safe they will change there profile to what there looking for and go looking. That's my plan anyways. I've blocked messages for just now.

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By *tartingoutlondonCouple
over a year ago

London

We each have a different but complimentary opinion on what 'safe' is. The odds of catching it and being able to transmit it to others needs to drop to something statistically insignificant in a busy club setting. The social stigma of being in close contact with strangers also needs to have disappeared. Until both of those things are true, we won't be meeting but once they are resolved we will be first in line.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They’re really not doing anything are they - very disappointing. All they do is block the person from you when you report but the person is still advertising meets you just can’t see them. "

I agree with you both........I returned from work at 10am New Year’s Day after a pretty grim night shift to see yet again the usual single female fairly local has had another meet. She’s had a very busy Xmas period fucking!.

It really annoys me I’m risking the health of my family and myself yet the site is still allowing verifications and meets.

Verifications and status bars need removing if people are found to have been meeting a instant ban from the site rather than nothing being done.

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By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"We each have a different but complimentary opinion on what 'safe' is. The odds of catching it and being able to transmit it to others needs to drop to something statistically insignificant in a busy club setting. The social stigma of being in close contact with strangers also needs to have disappeared. Until both of those things are true, we won't be meeting but once they are resolved we will be first in line."

A great response

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

"Safe or safer to me given the current situation is when I feel comfortable with my efforts to mitigate the risk of catching covid 19

I think the same as you

Sounds sensible

Or just rhetoric???

Mitigate how ?

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by keeping myself from the prospect of meeting anyone for sexual activity until the R rate is well below 1 , there has been a significant period of the absence of covid infections ending up in hospitals and covid deaths are a rarity and I've been given full protection as is possible via a vaccine , until this happens I won't feel comfortable to meet anyone for sexual contact off here

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By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"Safe or safer to me given the current situation is when I feel comfortable with my efforts to mitigate the risk of catching covid 19

I think the same as you

Sounds sensible

Or just rhetoric???

Mitigate how ?

by keeping myself from the prospect of meeting anyone for sexual activity until the R rate is well below 1 , there has been a significant period of the absence of covid infections ending up in hospitals and covid deaths are a rarity and I've been given full protection as is possible via a vaccine , until this happens I won't feel comfortable to meet anyone for sexual contact off here

But if I understand correctly ???

The concept is not your personal safety?

If the r n drops and x number feel safe they meet and then hug grandad who meets his mate fred who dies ?

The reason I'm told for not meeting is not for us

An r number will reduce but unless the vaccine is exceptionally effective and until a successful roll out

The lock down reduces r people feel "safe" they meet r goes up people die

So are we saying safe is when enough have been both immunised and infected and time enough passes to know an exponential wave cannot occur !?

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

I've only been out my home 4 times since mid march , had no one come inside and I'll stay here until I'm called for the vaccine , I will take my chances getting Thier and back

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By *ensualtouch15 OP Man
over a year ago

ashby de la zouch

"I've only been out my home 4 times since mid march , had no one come inside and I'll stay here until I'm called for the vaccine , I will take my chances getting Thier and back

Respect your commitment

Concerned you have not been walking or experiencing nature

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

"I've only been out my home 4 times since mid march , had no one come inside and I'll stay here until I'm called for the vaccine , I will take my chances getting Thier and back

Respect your commitment

Concerned you have not been walking or experiencing nature

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I'm fortunate to live where nature is all around me , watching the birds and the bees from my window

We have already lost a close family member to covid in April , 58 no underlying health condition s and none of my family got to say goodbye cos wasn't allowed to visit in hospital , I'm not putting my family through that again so I'm doing what it takes for as long as it takes

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Every meaning that we make is subjective, even if described and defined. The words are the shortcuts.

I'd guess that most people would potentially meet when things are safer than a year without a very bad flu epidemic. Last winter fewer than 400 people died of flu.

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