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"seems the majority on here have extreme views.either wanting everyone locked in there homes till wenever or those who think we should be partying in the streets.myself yea there is a virus about thats lethal to certain sections of society and yea we need to things to limit them getting it.are the goverment telling us everything no course there not.i wouldnt either look how freaked out a lot of people are with what we know.if you told people everything half the country would lose there shit" What exactly do you think the government aren't telling us? | |||
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"seems the majority on here have extreme views.either wanting everyone locked in there homes till wenever or those who think we should be partying in the streets.myself yea there is a virus about thats lethal to certain sections of society and yea we need to things to limit them getting it.are the goverment telling us everything no course there not.i wouldnt either look how freaked out a lot of people are with what we know.if you told people everything half the country would lose there shit" To be honest there are a very small number if any that have wanted everyone locked up, people know there is infrastructure and services without which any society cant function effectively if that were to be the case.. And again with the latter group whilst some are saying fuck it lets just ignore the restrictions those voices have lessened this past few months.. I think there's a general frustration on both sides but as with politics it's more like centre left and right than extremists.. And for those whom this hasn't yet touched I hope they don't wake up to it on the loss of a loved one.. | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many." There is so much misinformation in the threads and posters seem to believe it wholeheartedly. When you point out that actually they could consider a different angle - you get a stroppy pointless response. I’m happy to debate with anyone - but dear lord research your point first. | |||
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"seems the majority on here have extreme views.either wanting everyone locked in there homes till wenever or those who think we should be partying in the streets.myself yea there is a virus about thats lethal to certain sections of society and yea we need to things to limit them getting it.are the goverment telling us everything no course there not.i wouldnt either look how freaked out a lot of people are with what we know.if you told people everything half the country would lose there shit" Yes tend to agree with most of what u have said! There are some very extreme and some that really dont care it's good to b a happy medium I think x | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many." Yes. I have also noticed that and it seems that you can only have 1 view about it. | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many.Yes. I have also noticed that and it seems that you can only have 1 view about it." Absolutely correct. Woe betide if you have a differing view to the ones who want nothing in the country to move. Don't, whatever you do have an opinion that differs from complete and utter lock down and if you're over 60 stay locked up and don't breathe the same air as others. | |||
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"I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit." Where's your evidence for this?  | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many. There is so much misinformation in the threads and posters seem to believe it wholeheartedly. When you point out that actually they could consider a different angle - you get a stroppy pointless response. I’m happy to debate with anyone - but dear lord research your point first. " Absolutely spot on. We've had the comments like: "There's more flu deaths than covid deaths "fact" a few months ago." - Easily disproved from the weekly flu report. The fact that flu and Pneumonia are grouped together confuses things further particularly as Pneumonia develops from many different viruses and infections. "There has only been 300 odd deaths in the under 60s without underlying health conditions" - but completely oblivious to the fact that 22% of the population of this planet has at least one underlying health condition. A child with asthma could quite easily live another 80 years but it seems like to some such a person doesn't matter. Loads more ridiculous arguments like this. I don't mind people having opinions that differ to my own as long as their opinion is their own and based on some logic or evidenced. | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many. There is so much misinformation in the threads and posters seem to believe it wholeheartedly. When you point out that actually they could consider a different angle - you get a stroppy pointless response. I’m happy to debate with anyone - but dear lord research your point first. Absolutely spot on. We've had the comments like: "There's more flu deaths than covid deaths "fact" a few months ago." - Easily disproved from the weekly flu report. The fact that flu and Pneumonia are grouped together confuses things further particularly as Pneumonia develops from many different viruses and infections. "There has only been 300 odd deaths in the under 60s without underlying health conditions" - but completely oblivious to the fact that 22% of the population of this planet has at least one underlying health condition. A child with asthma could quite easily live another 80 years but it seems like to some such a person doesn't matter. Loads more ridiculous arguments like this. I don't mind people having opinions that differ to my own as long as their opinion is their own and based on some logic or evidenced." Actually, you don't have to have logic or evidence to have an opinion. You, or anyone can form an opinion without evidence or fact. For example, my opinion about some social media sites is dire and harbouring places for strange people but I don't have evidence at all because I've never been on the vast majority of social media sites. My opinion about some people is based on my own gut reaction and what I feel.. Neither are either evidential or factual but that's my opinion. An opinion can be changed by the presentation of real evidence and facts but it's not guaranteed to. Just because someone doesn't hold the same opinion as others, it doesn't always mean they're wrong and cannot express their feelings and opinions. Another example, I don't like a guy called Fred. No matter how much evidence or facts are put before me that he's a really good guy, my opinion is that I don't like him. Nothing will make me like him. | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many. There is so much misinformation in the threads and posters seem to believe it wholeheartedly. When you point out that actually they could consider a different angle - you get a stroppy pointless response. I’m happy to debate with anyone - but dear lord research your point first. Absolutely spot on. We've had the comments like: "There's more flu deaths than covid deaths "fact" a few months ago." - Easily disproved from the weekly flu report. The fact that flu and Pneumonia are grouped together confuses things further particularly as Pneumonia develops from many different viruses and infections. "There has only been 300 odd deaths in the under 60s without underlying health conditions" - but completely oblivious to the fact that 22% of the population of this planet has at least one underlying health condition. A child with asthma could quite easily live another 80 years but it seems like to some such a person doesn't matter. Loads more ridiculous arguments like this. I don't mind people having opinions that differ to my own as long as their opinion is their own and based on some logic or evidenced. Actually, you don't have to have logic or evidence to have an opinion. You, or anyone can form an opinion without evidence or fact. For example, my opinion about some social media sites is dire and harbouring places for strange people but I don't have evidence at all because I've never been on the vast majority of social media sites. My opinion about some people is based on my own gut reaction and what I feel.. Neither are either evidential or factual but that's my opinion. An opinion can be changed by the presentation of real evidence and facts but it's not guaranteed to. Just because someone doesn't hold the same opinion as others, it doesn't always mean they're wrong and cannot express their feelings and opinions. Another example, I don't like a guy called Fred. No matter how much evidence or facts are put before me that he's a really good guy, my opinion is that I don't like him. Nothing will make me like him. " Just so I am clear - you are happy for people to put out their opinion based on whatever they like, even just a feeling, when it comes to Covid and surrounding issues? | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many. There is so much misinformation in the threads and posters seem to believe it wholeheartedly. When you point out that actually they could consider a different angle - you get a stroppy pointless response. I’m happy to debate with anyone - but dear lord research your point first. Absolutely spot on. We've had the comments like: "There's more flu deaths than covid deaths "fact" a few months ago." - Easily disproved from the weekly flu report. The fact that flu and Pneumonia are grouped together confuses things further particularly as Pneumonia develops from many different viruses and infections. "There has only been 300 odd deaths in the under 60s without underlying health conditions" - but completely oblivious to the fact that 22% of the population of this planet has at least one underlying health condition. A child with asthma could quite easily live another 80 years but it seems like to some such a person doesn't matter. Loads more ridiculous arguments like this. I don't mind people having opinions that differ to my own as long as their opinion is their own and based on some logic or evidenced. Actually, you don't have to have logic or evidence to have an opinion. You, or anyone can form an opinion without evidence or fact. For example, my opinion about some social media sites is dire and harbouring places for strange people but I don't have evidence at all because I've never been on the vast majority of social media sites. My opinion about some people is based on my own gut reaction and what I feel.. Neither are either evidential or factual but that's my opinion. An opinion can be changed by the presentation of real evidence and facts but it's not guaranteed to. Just because someone doesn't hold the same opinion as others, it doesn't always mean they're wrong and cannot express their feelings and opinions. Another example, I don't like a guy called Fred. No matter how much evidence or facts are put before me that he's a really good guy, my opinion is that I don't like him. Nothing will make me like him. Just so I am clear - you are happy for people to put out their opinion based on whatever they like, even just a feeling, when it comes to Covid and surrounding issues? " I am, why on Earth can’t people have an opposing view and give their own opinion?? They have every damn right to post what they like, whether it contradicts the ‘popular’ opinion or not  | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many. There is so much misinformation in the threads and posters seem to believe it wholeheartedly. When you point out that actually they could consider a different angle - you get a stroppy pointless response. I’m happy to debate with anyone - but dear lord research your point first. Absolutely spot on. We've had the comments like: "There's more flu deaths than covid deaths "fact" a few months ago." - Easily disproved from the weekly flu report. The fact that flu and Pneumonia are grouped together confuses things further particularly as Pneumonia develops from many different viruses and infections. "There has only been 300 odd deaths in the under 60s without underlying health conditions" - but completely oblivious to the fact that 22% of the population of this planet has at least one underlying health condition. A child with asthma could quite easily live another 80 years but it seems like to some such a person doesn't matter. Loads more ridiculous arguments like this. I don't mind people having opinions that differ to my own as long as their opinion is their own and based on some logic or evidenced. Actually, you don't have to have logic or evidence to have an opinion. You, or anyone can form an opinion without evidence or fact. For example, my opinion about some social media sites is dire and harbouring places for strange people but I don't have evidence at all because I've never been on the vast majority of social media sites. My opinion about some people is based on my own gut reaction and what I feel.. Neither are either evidential or factual but that's my opinion. An opinion can be changed by the presentation of real evidence and facts but it's not guaranteed to. Just because someone doesn't hold the same opinion as others, it doesn't always mean they're wrong and cannot express their feelings and opinions. Another example, I don't like a guy called Fred. No matter how much evidence or facts are put before me that he's a really good guy, my opinion is that I don't like him. Nothing will make me like him. Just so I am clear - you are happy for people to put out their opinion based on whatever they like, even just a feeling, when it comes to Covid and surrounding issues? I am, why on Earth can’t people have an opposing view and give their own opinion?? They have every damn right to post what they like, whether it contradicts the ‘popular’ opinion or not "When it’s poorly researched, disputing facts, potentially putting lives at risk?! You take no issue with this at all? | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many. There is so much misinformation in the threads and posters seem to believe it wholeheartedly. When you point out that actually they could consider a different angle - you get a stroppy pointless response. I’m happy to debate with anyone - but dear lord research your point first. Absolutely spot on. We've had the comments like: "There's more flu deaths than covid deaths "fact" a few months ago." - Easily disproved from the weekly flu report. The fact that flu and Pneumonia are grouped together confuses things further particularly as Pneumonia develops from many different viruses and infections. "There has only been 300 odd deaths in the under 60s without underlying health conditions" - but completely oblivious to the fact that 22% of the population of this planet has at least one underlying health condition. A child with asthma could quite easily live another 80 years but it seems like to some such a person doesn't matter. Loads more ridiculous arguments like this. I don't mind people having opinions that differ to my own as long as their opinion is their own and based on some logic or evidenced. Actually, you don't have to have logic or evidence to have an opinion. You, or anyone can form an opinion without evidence or fact. For example, my opinion about some social media sites is dire and harbouring places for strange people but I don't have evidence at all because I've never been on the vast majority of social media sites. My opinion about some people is based on my own gut reaction and what I feel.. Neither are either evidential or factual but that's my opinion. An opinion can be changed by the presentation of real evidence and facts but it's not guaranteed to. Just because someone doesn't hold the same opinion as others, it doesn't always mean they're wrong and cannot express their feelings and opinions. Another example, I don't like a guy called Fred. No matter how much evidence or facts are put before me that he's a really good guy, my opinion is that I don't like him. Nothing will make me like him. Just so I am clear - you are happy for people to put out their opinion based on whatever they like, even just a feeling, when it comes to Covid and surrounding issues? I am, why on Earth can’t people have an opposing view and give their own opinion?? They have every damn right to post what they like, whether it contradicts the ‘popular’ opinion or not
When it’s poorly researched, disputing facts, potentially putting lives at risk?! You take no issue with this at all? "Who says you are right and I am wrong? | |||
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"I've been reading a lot of the virus posts and I think some people genuinely enjoy the drama of the whole situation. I know I'll get both barrells, but even if there was solid evidence that we are not being told the whole truth, there would still be some people that want to spit and rant that the evidence is fake and tell people to run in fear or accuse them of being shit. We just can't seem to take each others opinions on board or even respect the conflicting view points...sadly this will divide many. There is so much misinformation in the threads and posters seem to believe it wholeheartedly. When you point out that actually they could consider a different angle - you get a stroppy pointless response. I’m happy to debate with anyone - but dear lord research your point first. Absolutely spot on. We've had the comments like: "There's more flu deaths than covid deaths "fact" a few months ago." - Easily disproved from the weekly flu report. The fact that flu and Pneumonia are grouped together confuses things further particularly as Pneumonia develops from many different viruses and infections. "There has only been 300 odd deaths in the under 60s without underlying health conditions" - but completely oblivious to the fact that 22% of the population of this planet has at least one underlying health condition. A child with asthma could quite easily live another 80 years but it seems like to some such a person doesn't matter. Loads more ridiculous arguments like this. I don't mind people having opinions that differ to my own as long as their opinion is their own and based on some logic or evidenced. Actually, you don't have to have logic or evidence to have an opinion. You, or anyone can form an opinion without evidence or fact. For example, my opinion about some social media sites is dire and harbouring places for strange people but I don't have evidence at all because I've never been on the vast majority of social media sites. My opinion about some people is based on my own gut reaction and what I feel.. Neither are either evidential or factual but that's my opinion. An opinion can be changed by the presentation of real evidence and facts but it's not guaranteed to. Just because someone doesn't hold the same opinion as others, it doesn't always mean they're wrong and cannot express their feelings and opinions. Another example, I don't like a guy called Fred. No matter how much evidence or facts are put before me that he's a really good guy, my opinion is that I don't like him. Nothing will make me like him. Just so I am clear - you are happy for people to put out their opinion based on whatever they like, even just a feeling, when it comes to Covid and surrounding issues? I am, why on Earth can’t people have an opposing view and give their own opinion?? They have every damn right to post what they like, whether it contradicts the ‘popular’ opinion or not
When it’s poorly researched, disputing facts, potentially putting lives at risk?! You take no issue with this at all?
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"Deadly serious. How do you know what I’ve researched, seen, watched, experienced? Exactly, You don’t. We probably don’t even live in the same area. You can’t shout people down for having opposing views, that’s not how life works. It’s not good getting all angry over it either, it’s not going to change peoples own opinions and in fact it takes a lot of courage and strength to disagree with the masses "Opinion is not equivalent to fact and never will be. | |||
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"Deadly serious. How do you know what I’ve researched, seen, watched, experienced? Exactly, You don’t. We probably don’t even live in the same area. You can’t shout people down for having opposing views, that’s not how life works. It’s not good getting all angry over it either, it’s not going to change peoples own opinions and in fact it takes a lot of courage and strength to disagree with the masses "You can usually tell quite easily to be fair and it’s not a case of shouting down an opposing view. It’s a case of wanting some semblance of a sensible rationale. Sorry are you implying I’m angry? | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear "I give up. | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear "Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies? | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
I give up.
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
"Exactly. There's an old saying. " A person is intelligent and can be reasoned with, People are stupid and will follow others without question" Now you can bend this to suit both case's but the point is. Of fucking course we don't know everything,we don't need to all we need to know is exactly enough to follow advice and guidance any more than that and it creates confusion and chaos. What actual benefit does the government gain from making this up? Please please tell me I'm a reasonable guy I'll listen to a reasoned and factual conversation. But why would they I don't understand. | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
"There is so much conflicting information you can’t blame people for having doubts about so many aspects of this virus. I’m the same as everyone else, I want it gone and I want my life back to normal | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
There is so much conflicting information you can’t blame people for having doubts about so many aspects of this virus. I’m the same as everyone else, I want it gone and I want my life back to normal "Would you argue with your GP if they gave you medical advice regarding a life threatening condition? Would you question their motives for giving the advice? | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
There is so much conflicting information you can’t blame people for having doubts about so many aspects of this virus. I’m the same as everyone else, I want it gone and I want my life back to normal
Would you argue with your GP if they gave you medical advice regarding a life threatening condition? Would you question their motives for giving the advice?"I would listen then do research on it myself, they do get things wrong sometimes | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
There is so much conflicting information you can’t blame people for having doubts about so many aspects of this virus. I’m the same as everyone else, I want it gone and I want my life back to normal
Would you argue with your GP if they gave you medical advice regarding a life threatening condition? Would you question their motives for giving the advice?
I would listen then do research on it myself, they do get things wrong sometimes "So you would argue with expertise? Their years of experience, study and knowledge can be easily discounted? | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
There is so much conflicting information you can’t blame people for having doubts about so many aspects of this virus. I’m the same as everyone else, I want it gone and I want my life back to normal
Would you argue with your GP if they gave you medical advice regarding a life threatening condition? Would you question their motives for giving the advice?
I would listen then do research on it myself, they do get things wrong sometimes "I remember going to my doctors once and he said "what do you think it is" | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
There is so much conflicting information you can’t blame people for having doubts about so many aspects of this virus. I’m the same as everyone else, I want it gone and I want my life back to normal
Would you argue with your GP if they gave you medical advice regarding a life threatening condition? Would you question their motives for giving the advice?
I would listen then do research on it myself, they do get things wrong sometimes
So you would argue with expertise? Their years of experience, study and knowledge can be easily discounted?"Did I say argue? No I didn’t. I would listen and do my own research too. That’s what I did in the past and it stood me well Don’t try to put words in my mouth to try to push your point through | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
There is so much conflicting information you can’t blame people for having doubts about so many aspects of this virus. I’m the same as everyone else, I want it gone and I want my life back to normal
Would you argue with your GP if they gave you medical advice regarding a life threatening condition? Would you question their motives for giving the advice?
I would listen then do research on it myself, they do get things wrong sometimes
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
There is so much conflicting information you can’t blame people for having doubts about so many aspects of this virus. I’m the same as everyone else, I want it gone and I want my life back to normal
Would you argue with your GP if they gave you medical advice regarding a life threatening condition? Would you question their motives for giving the advice?
I would listen then do research on it myself, they do get things wrong sometimes
So you would argue with expertise? Their years of experience, study and knowledge can be easily discounted?
Did I say argue? No I didn’t. I would listen and do my own research too. That’s what I did in the past and it stood me well Don’t try to put words in my mouth to try to push your point through "I don't mean argue as is a row, I mean to give reasons for or against something. Akin to a barrister or lawyer might do. | |||
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"The point is nobody knows the real facts as so much is hidden and twisted and the media only report what they want us to hear
Real facts? Do you really think there is a global coordinated conspiracy of deception and lies?
There is so much conflicting information you can’t blame people for having doubts about so many aspects of this virus. I’m the same as everyone else, I want it gone and I want my life back to normal
Would you argue with your GP if they gave you medical advice regarding a life threatening condition? Would you question their motives for giving the advice?
I would listen then do research on it myself, they do get things wrong sometimes
I remember going to my doctors once and he said "what do you think it is"
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"People are also dying and being denied urgent medical treatment because all the focus is on covid. This isn’t right either "Please explain further? Manchester has the same policy as any other trust in the country on the subject of service provision and I just don’t see it. Elective surgery has gone currently from our offering as we needed to expand our covid wards, a surgical team contains nursing staff with the skills to manage those under anaesthetic or indeed an induced coma. Ventilation is a surgical proceedure so the anaesthetists and surgical staff remain busy. Beyond that, service is maintained... oncology and cancer screening has actually been relocated about a mile down the road in a separate building to minimise risk to patients. The ED functions as normal, we have surgery for any life saving surgery etc. Our transplant team is still working but in a covid secure environment outside of the trust. Our mental health team has expanded and operates as normal with a facility in the NW nightingale as well. I myself have a toe joint that needs surgery... tbh it’s really fucking annoying that it was due to be done a year ago but... I ain’t dying from it. | |||
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"People are also dying and being denied urgent medical treatment because all the focus is on covid. This isn’t right either
Please explain further?
Manchester has the same policy as any other trust in the country on the subject of service provision and I just don’t see it.
Elective surgery has gone currently from our offering as we needed to expand our covid wards, a surgical team contains nursing staff with the skills to manage those under anaesthetic or indeed an induced coma. Ventilation is a surgical proceedure so the anaesthetists and surgical staff remain busy.
Beyond that, service is maintained... oncology and cancer screening has actually been relocated about a mile down the road in a separate building to minimise risk to patients.
The ED functions as normal, we have surgery for any life saving surgery etc. Our transplant team is still working but in a covid secure environment outside of the trust. Our mental health team has expanded and operates as normal with a facility in the NW nightingale as well.
I myself have a toe joint that needs surgery... tbh it’s really fucking annoying that it was due to be done a year ago but... I ain’t dying from it. "Sadly at the start of first lockdown had a friend who had face cancer was due to start treatment got put on hold and by june without the treatment it had spread and became terminal  x | |||
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