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"Why isn’t there a round the clock vaccination program for? If the government are serious about getting us back to normal you’d think that they would be done their utmost to get the vaccine to as many ppl as possible in as little time. I think they are happy for us to stay in lockdown forever. " Ok you are now maning on for 24 hours 7 days a week for the next year oh and as a bonus you will get minimum wage same as a HCA | |||
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"Why isn’t there a round the clock vaccination program for? If the government are serious about getting us back to normal you’d think that they would be done their utmost to get the vaccine to as many ppl as possible in as little time. I think they are happy for us to stay in lockdown forever. Ok you are now maning on for 24 hours 7 days a week for the next year oh and as a bonus you will get minimum wage same as a HCA " I’m not against a vaccine to get us out of this shite situation, it’s just not for me But if Mrs A is administering it , I might be persuaded | |||
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"Why isn’t there a round the clock vaccination program for? If the government are serious about getting us back to normal you’d think that they would be done their utmost to get the vaccine to as many ppl as possible in as little time. I think they are happy for us to stay in lockdown forever. " Don’t know about other County Councils but Lancashire are already working on it but paperwork has to be correct ie enhanced DBS to go into schools, background and reference checks etc, I’ve already worked for them for community testing so already on the system but still takes time for the info to go from 1 team to the next and there’s also training to be done which to even log people details for community was 3 days shadowing. LCC took on 1300 people who are there as back up but imagine answering all those emails and putting together rotes and who need what paperwork completing etc whilst doing their normal job? | |||
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"Because there's not enough people to see staff such an enterprise for a start." There is actually, if they use all of the trained resources available to them. The military have tens of thousands of personnel trained and competent to deliver injections (not to mention logistical and management support) AND locations to do it all currently sat waiting to be called upon. | |||
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"Why isn’t there a round the clock vaccination program for? If the government are serious about getting us back to normal you’d think that they would be done their utmost to get the vaccine to as many ppl as possible in as little time. I think they are happy for us to stay in lockdown forever. Ok you are now maning on for 24 hours 7 days a week for the next year oh and as a bonus you will get minimum wage same as a HCA I’m not against a vaccine to get us out of this shite situation, it’s just not for me But if Mrs A is administering it , I might be persuaded " Yes! | |||
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"I’m going to assume you’re just feeling frustrated and not actually being serious .... The man power, coordination and infrastructure needed to carry that out is not sustainable. Not sure what you do for a living but would you be ok working around the clock? The last thing any government wants to do is deplete it’s cash reserve, decreases tax revenue, increase unemployment etc. The fact we’ve managed to get a vaccine so quickly is due to the combined effort and singular focus across the world and huge sums of money being spent. It’s completely illogical to think any government, council would want to continue down that line when it’s literally emptying out all cash reserves....." It bankrupts the coffers now, but the recovery will fill them up, mass vaccination on an epic scale, they need to push themselves harder and faster. And there I thought we were some super country in the face of adversity, all we do is pay lip service. 24/7 vaccination program now! | |||
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"Would there be enough people around at 3am in the morning to make it worthwhile?" Yes, it needs to be done, if you want out of this lockdown madness then we need to make the hard choice. Loss of sleep for freedom! | |||
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"Why would any government want its population in lockdown forever ? That means a massively reduced tax revenue for them That means no money for them to spend " Lol Brexit thats were Taxes & Duties will come from possibly | |||
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"Would there be enough people around at 3am in the morning to make it worthwhile?" Why not go into places that operate shifts ... start there !! | |||
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"Vaccine or no vaccine prepare for hard times ahead coz the world has changed forever x this virus mutates which means it's ever changing and more vicious which means there will be a series of vaccines to counter every new strain....imagine the side effects considering vaccines are never 100% safe not even 70% no one is safe everyone's health is on the line not only the old and vulnerable." 2021 the year to not hold back. Complete and utter bullshit. Read up on the subject before spouting rubbish | |||
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"Why isn’t there a round the clock vaccination program for? If the government are serious about getting us back to normal you’d think that they would be done their utmost to get the vaccine to as many ppl as possible in as little time. I think they are happy for us to stay in lockdown forever. Ok you are now maning on for 24 hours 7 days a week for the next year oh and as a bonus you will get minimum wage same as a HCA I’m not against a vaccine to get us out of this shite situation, it’s just not for me But if Mrs A is administering it , I might be persuaded " But you are fine with everyone else getting it | |||
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"Vaccine or no vaccine prepare for hard times ahead coz the world has changed forever x this virus mutates which means it's ever changing and more vicious which means there will be a series of vaccines to counter every new strain....imagine the side effects considering vaccines are never 100% safe not even 70% no one is safe everyone's health is on the line not only the old and vulnerable." So you think more than 3 in 10 are having a serious or deadly reaction to the virus??? Where are you getting this from? | |||
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"Vaccine or no vaccine prepare for hard times ahead coz the world has changed forever x this virus mutates which means it's ever changing and more vicious which means there will be a series of vaccines to counter every new strain....imagine the side effects considering vaccines are never 100% safe not even 70% no one is safe everyone's health is on the line not only the old and vulnerable. So you think more than 3 in 10 are having a serious or deadly reaction to the virus??? Where are you getting this from?" ...my whole family has it as we speak my mum is fighting for her life in hospital right now.This new strain spreads so fast. | |||
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"Because there's not enough people to see staff such an enterprise for a start. There is actually, if they use all of the trained resources available to them. The military have tens of thousands of personnel trained and competent to deliver injections (not to mention logistical and management support) AND locations to do it all currently sat waiting to be called upon." Not sure where you get the tens of thousands, quick Google search the defence medical service has 8000 regular personnel, with 4000 reserve personnel for the British Services worldwide | |||
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"Vaccine or no vaccine prepare for hard times ahead coz the world has changed forever x this virus mutates which means it's ever changing and more vicious which means there will be a series of vaccines to counter every new strain....imagine the side effects considering vaccines are never 100% safe not even 70% no one is safe everyone's health is on the line not only the old and vulnerable. So you think more than 3 in 10 are having a serious or deadly reaction to the virus??? Where are you getting this from?...my whole family has it as we speak my mum is fighting for her life in hospital right now.This new strain spreads so fast. " Sending thoughts your way i hope she pulls through. | |||
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"When doing vaccine clinics it is difficult to get people to come to surgery after about 6pm especially the elderly. I can't see many patients turning up in the early hours of the morning to make staffing at that time worthwhile. " I am not just talking bout old people, I am thinking everyone, we need to do it or we will never get rid of lockdown anytime soon, | |||
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"I’m going to assume you’re just feeling frustrated and not actually being serious .... The man power, coordination and infrastructure needed to carry that out is not sustainable. Not sure what you do for a living but would you be ok working around the clock? The last thing any government wants to do is deplete it’s cash reserve, decreases tax revenue, increase unemployment etc. The fact we’ve managed to get a vaccine so quickly is due to the combined effort and singular focus across the world and huge sums of money being spent. It’s completely illogical to think any government, council would want to continue down that line when it’s literally emptying out all cash reserves..... It bankrupts the coffers now, but the recovery will fill them up, mass vaccination on an epic scale, they need to push themselves harder and faster. And there I thought we were some super country in the face of adversity, all we do is pay lip service. 24/7 vaccination program now!" Sorry but can you explain how for the above please? The debt is est to be £400billion for 20/21, it’s already resulted in pay freezes for key sectors, funding cuts for core services (despite them already having been cut to the bone over the last decade), talk of increased taxes. The BOE has also had to buy £450billion worth of bonds to protect funding routes. Additionally the Oxford vaccine is being billed at zero profit, I think it’s around £4? So exactly how is an epic vaccination going to get the money rolling in? Don’t forget we still need to pay for transport, petrol, salaries, rent and bills for where it’s stored, administrated. Just think how much effort it is to get a group of friends to book a holiday or a wedding! I get your sentiment and desire to get us back to ‘normal’ but it won’t be that easy unfortunately. Either way stay safe | |||
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"Are we perhaps mixing up safety and efficacy?" Absolutely, wish there was a ‘like’ option! | |||
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"Vaccine or no vaccine prepare for hard times ahead coz the world has changed forever x this virus mutates which means it's ever changing and more vicious which means there will be a series of vaccines to counter every new strain....imagine the side effects considering vaccines are never 100% safe not even 70% no one is safe everyone's health is on the line not only the old and vulnerable. 2021 the year to not hold back. Complete and utter bullshit. Read up on the subject before spouting rubbish" I'm not sure what people get out of posting such doom mongering drivel, but I really wish they wouldn't. | |||
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"When doing vaccine clinics it is difficult to get people to come to surgery after about 6pm especially the elderly. I can't see many patients turning up in the early hours of the morning to make staffing at that time worthwhile. I am not just talking bout old people, I am thinking everyone, we need to do it or we will never get rid of lockdown anytime soon," We would also be unable to staff a 24 hour service. Vaccine are being done by normal GP surgeries. We are already taking staff from normal clinics to do the vaccine during the day. We would need to basically stop normal service to do the vaccines 24/7 | |||
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"I’m going to assume you’re just feeling frustrated and not actually being serious .... The man power, coordination and infrastructure needed to carry that out is not sustainable. Not sure what you do for a living but would you be ok working around the clock? The last thing any government wants to do is deplete it’s cash reserve, decreases tax revenue, increase unemployment etc. The fact we’ve managed to get a vaccine so quickly is due to the combined effort and singular focus across the world and huge sums of money being spent. It’s completely illogical to think any government, council would want to continue down that line when it’s literally emptying out all cash reserves..... It bankrupts the coffers now, but the recovery will fill them up, mass vaccination on an epic scale, they need to push themselves harder and faster. And there I thought we were some super country in the face of adversity, all we do is pay lip service. 24/7 vaccination program now! Sorry but can you explain how for the above please? The debt is est to be £400billion for 20/21, it’s already resulted in pay freezes for key sectors, funding cuts for core services (despite them already having been cut to the bone over the last decade), talk of increased taxes. The BOE has also had to buy £450billion worth of bonds to protect funding routes. Additionally the Oxford vaccine is being billed at zero profit, I think it’s around £4? So exactly how is an epic vaccination going to get the money rolling in? Don’t forget we still need to pay for transport, petrol, salaries, rent and bills for where it’s stored, administrated. Just think how much effort it is to get a group of friends to book a holiday or a wedding! I get your sentiment and desire to get us back to ‘normal’ but it won’t be that easy unfortunately. Either way stay safe " Staying safe is important, but like I alluded to, tough decisions need to be made, we can worry about the debt burden later. The focus should be on ensuring the population is vaccinated so we can lead the recovery before our competitors have the economic advantage. But I guess endless lockdowns and FUD is something you support. We need to be bold in our outlook, time is ticking the new variant is getting more people sick. Either we win or lose, people have died more people will die the longer we prolong this disaster. | |||
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"Well it’s going to happen, again too late, this should have been done far earlier!" It's not too late at all it's the perfect timing because now we have enough vaccine to be able to roll it out to more people. Also other than NSH and care staff, The only other group that is being vaccinated at the moment are the overrated ease and they really want going to want to be vaccinated at 4 o'clock in the morning. | |||
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"Well it’s going to happen, again too late, this should have been done far earlier! It's not too late at all it's the perfect timing because now we have enough vaccine to be able to roll it out to more people. Also other than NSH and care staff, The only other group that is being vaccinated at the moment are the overrated ease and they really want going to want to be vaccinated at 4 o'clock in the morning." Let’s just hope it’s not another fiasco like test and trace, the tier system, easing restrictions too early, operation moonshot. They grab headlines but if they don’t work it’s just another example of the failure of getting this virus under control | |||
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"Well it’s going to happen, again too late, this should have been done far earlier! It's not too late at all it's the perfect timing because now we have enough vaccine to be able to roll it out to more people. Also other than NSH and care staff, The only other group that is being vaccinated at the moment are the overrated ease and they really want going to want to be vaccinated at 4 o'clock in the morning. Let’s just hope it’s not another fiasco like test and trace, the tier system, easing restrictions too early, operation moonshot. They grab headlines but if they don’t work it’s just another example of the failure of getting this virus under control" I do think it's a good idea to offer the vaccine at all sorts of different times and places as long as they are appropriate for the people being offered them. For example if someone that is 76 is being offered a vaccine at 9:00 p.m. in the evening who doesn't drive 20 miles from their house it's rather pointless. | |||
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"I personally think they should focus first on getting the hubs up and running with regular deliveries of vaccine on schedule etc before attempting to spread even more thinly. My GP surgery just did a mass thing for the over 80s locally today (population of "village" total is about 24,000) and it was running from 8am to 8pm today. That seems more than adequate when these over 80s had to get there (and there's sweet FA public transport even in the day) and they had to wait the 15mins under a marquee in the car park. It was zero degrees here at 6pm and it's been snowing all day." i saw on the news people being vaccinated in their cars which i didnt expect ... anyone know how they are doing the observations? and imagine someone trying to lean in your car window to jab your arm while its pissing down :-l.. not for me | |||
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"I personally think they should focus first on getting the hubs up and running with regular deliveries of vaccine on schedule etc before attempting to spread even more thinly. My GP surgery just did a mass thing for the over 80s locally today (population of "village" total is about 24,000) and it was running from 8am to 8pm today. That seems more than adequate when these over 80s had to get there (and there's sweet FA public transport even in the day) and they had to wait the 15mins under a marquee in the car park. It was zero degrees here at 6pm and it's been snowing all day. i saw on the news people being vaccinated in their cars which i didnt expect ... anyone know how they are doing the observations? and imagine someone trying to lean in your car window to jab your arm while its pissing down :-l.. not for me" Not sure about in cars no. Our surgery had 'em coming in for the jab then outside to sit in the freezing snow while a nurse watched. Huge complaints from family members who brought their elders about the lack of car parking (already insufficient car park with only 2 blue badge spaces cut in half for the marquee etc) and local residents whose driveways have been blocked in for 12hrs. Also impossible to physically access the pharmacy that's within the car park today. The good news is that the actual vaccinating bit went well and no issues occurred in anyone waiting. | |||
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"I personally think they should focus first on getting the hubs up and running with regular deliveries of vaccine on schedule etc before attempting to spread even more thinly. My GP surgery just did a mass thing for the over 80s locally today (population of "village" total is about 24,000) and it was running from 8am to 8pm today. That seems more than adequate when these over 80s had to get there (and there's sweet FA public transport even in the day) and they had to wait the 15mins under a marquee in the car park. It was zero degrees here at 6pm and it's been snowing all day. i saw on the news people being vaccinated in their cars which i didnt expect ... anyone know how they are doing the observations? and imagine someone trying to lean in your car window to jab your arm while its pissing down :-l.. not for me Not sure about in cars no. Our surgery had 'em coming in for the jab then outside to sit in the freezing snow while a nurse watched. Huge complaints from family members who brought their elders about the lack of car parking (already insufficient car park with only 2 blue badge spaces cut in half for the marquee etc) and local residents whose driveways have been blocked in for 12hrs. Also impossible to physically access the pharmacy that's within the car park today. The good news is that the actual vaccinating bit went well and no issues occurred in anyone waiting." i dodnt know it was happening til it was shown on the news ... just wondered what was going on there must have been queues and queues of cars lined up for observation with others waiting to get in behind them... seemed like it would be a nightmare i guess all these logistical problems is why they are trying to set up the bigger stadium hubs where the grounds are already equipped to deal with large volumes of people | |||
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"I personally think they should focus first on getting the hubs up and running with regular deliveries of vaccine on schedule etc before attempting to spread even more thinly. My GP surgery just did a mass thing for the over 80s locally today (population of "village" total is about 24,000) and it was running from 8am to 8pm today. That seems more than adequate when these over 80s had to get there (and there's sweet FA public transport even in the day) and they had to wait the 15mins under a marquee in the car park. It was zero degrees here at 6pm and it's been snowing all day. i saw on the news people being vaccinated in their cars which i didnt expect ... anyone know how they are doing the observations? and imagine someone trying to lean in your car window to jab your arm while its pissing down :-l.. not for me Not sure about in cars no. Our surgery had 'em coming in for the jab then outside to sit in the freezing snow while a nurse watched. Huge complaints from family members who brought their elders about the lack of car parking (already insufficient car park with only 2 blue badge spaces cut in half for the marquee etc) and local residents whose driveways have been blocked in for 12hrs. Also impossible to physically access the pharmacy that's within the car park today. The good news is that the actual vaccinating bit went well and no issues occurred in anyone waiting." Exactly and this is my concern but it seems to be a case of the government want to have the numbers, That's fine but it has to be done in an appropriate setting. | |||
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"Vaccine or no vaccine prepare for hard times ahead coz the world has changed forever x this virus mutates which means it's ever changing and more vicious which means there will be a series of vaccines to counter every new strain....imagine the side effects considering vaccines are never 100% safe not even 70% no one is safe everyone's health is on the line not only the old and vulnerable. 2021 the year to not hold back. Complete and utter bullshit. Read up on the subject before spouting rubbish" I have a feeling they already have read up on the subject, you would be wise to as well "who ever tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying" is a book written by Vernon Coleman in 2014, and to date funnily enough, no drug company has ever sued him or challenged him. | |||
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""who ever tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying" is a book written by Vernon Coleman in 2014, and to date funnily enough, no drug company has ever sued him or challenged him." Probably because they, like most of us consider him an idiot not worthy of recognition." Do you have proof that they consider him an idiot, or do they consider him a threat ? | |||
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""who ever tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying" is a book written by Vernon Coleman in 2014, and to date funnily enough, no drug company has ever sued him or challenged him." Probably because they, like most of us consider him an idiot not worthy of recognition." This would be the Dr Vernon Coleman who used to have a column in the Sun newspaper? | |||
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"Why isn’t there a round the clock vaccination program for? " Vaccine manufacturing Vaccine supply & distribution Numbers of individuals able to administer the vaccine appropriately (not as the Daily Mail and other media sources suggess 'give it out') Transporting elderly individuals to / from vaccination providers or vice versa Consumables - syringes, needles, swabs, masks & gloves etc. | |||
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""who ever tells you vaccines are safe and effective is lying" is a book written by Vernon Coleman in 2014, and to date funnily enough, no drug company has ever sued him or challenged him." Probably because they, like most of us consider him an idiot not worthy of recognition. Do you have proof that they consider him an idiot, or do they consider him a threat ? " Probably an idiot. There are plenty of them out there and if vaccine companies sued them all they'd be forever in court. Also by suing him they would give him more attention than he deserves. | |||
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"Would there be enough people around at 3am in the morning to make it worthwhile?" Perhaps Only the dickheads being kicked out of the illegal parties!!! But maybe it would be a waste of the vaccine?? Instead maybe if you’re invited to have the jab at that time You’re employer should give you the day off (paid)??? | |||
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