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"It shocking how many status we see daily especially single males and a handful of couples are still looking for meets how selfish can you be, yes it is hard with all the restrictions in place for us all and we are not going to get rid of covid with so many reckless people thinking there invisible " Ive had 2 request for Christmas day. I felt more sorry for them tbh If im not travelling to see friends why the hell would I wana meet a total stranger. | |||
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"This covid virus is a global problem and the uk is not the only country restricted. Forget people on fab meeting up, you have mp's, pop stars and even the president of America demonstrates bad examples of breaching the rules. I have no issue if people have had enough of the lockdown and want to meet up, they take there own risk. Similarly if people decide not to use a condom, they take their own risks. " And here lies the problem. They are not taking their own risks, they also risk the health of anyone else the come into contact with. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus." If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. " No you can't. | |||
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"That does not necessarily present a 100% immunity. And immunity does not stop the spread. In fact, if someone thinks because they have had it, they can then spread it around because it won't do anything to them, that is selfish. People need to stop the spread. Working in an hospital, I just recovered from the damn thing and I can tell you for free the shit is scary. Think about yourself thinking of life insurance and how to prepare your family for and eventualities while on you sick bed. It is damn scary. " If you have had it then you have much less chance of catching it than if you have been vaccinated. If you can't catch it then you can't spread it. The only reason the government don't acknowledge this and allow those who have caught to ignore the restrictions is because they know that the young and fit would catch it on purpose to free themselves from restrictions. | |||
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"I have friends and family that work in the NHS and care homes, they are the ones that these unreasonable people will expect to look after them in intensive care!" In the same way that those inconsiderate people go out cycling, fall off and expect to be looked after, rugby players, skiers, motorcyclists. The whole lot should have long hard look at themselves. Get a grip, that's what the health service is there for and why we pay nurses and doctors to do their job. People smoke, drink and overeat until they look like jabba the hut and the hospital is there to pick up the pieces. | |||
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"Yours sounds more like one of these conspiracy theories flying about. No offense. Let's reason together this way:- Having contracted it, you did everything needed and you got healed no further risk to yourself. But on getting back to work for instance, with observing the needed precautions, you picked the virus up again. Yes it would not do you any harm but let's assume you chose not to wash your hands as advised and you ended up shaking someone's hand, and the person touched his or her own face. That is exactly what we are talking about when we talk about spreading it. So....having it previously does not mean you can't be the transporter. " I agree with you, if you have had it then as long as you wash your hands frequently you can go about your daily life without needing to follow the other restrictions. Or is there an even more tenuous mechanism by which you going to make the slightest difference to the R number? | |||
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"It shocking how many status we see daily especially single males and a handful of couples are still looking for meets how selfish can you be, yes it is hard with all the restrictions in place for us all and we are not going to get rid of covid with so many reckless people thinking there invisible " | |||
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"Every covid death appears to happen in a care home or a hospital people wake up we are getting murdered agenda 21 new world order " Reminds me of the baldrick line about "hostipals".... They are full of sick people. | |||
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"Dozens of meet requests in my local newsfeed daily... Reporting the profiles just blocks me from seeing them and the thrice daily requests to meet in their status updates continue...." Its horribly selfish how many still seek meets with random strangers, when the rest of us are struggling to see family and friends. Instant bans ought to apply to repeat offenders! | |||
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"If you see anyone asking to meet report it. Admin will deal with it." If I click updates then you will find between 10 to 20 physical meet requests local to me at any given time. If I change my location to pretty much anywhere in the UK the same applies sadly. I get that with the sheer volume of users trying to meet it is incredibly hard to police but the same offenders in my local area have had these meet now status updates for months now with zero consequence to them. KJ | |||
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"Why are the nightingale hospitals being shut down after so much money spend on equipment etc because nobody was going to use them in the first place just to scare the public that the pandemic is severe it’s all control " Hospitals don't have enough staff due to them dropping like flies, you can have hundreds of beds in these nightingale hospitals but they're useless if you can't staff them. | |||
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"It shocking how many status we see daily especially single males and a handful of couples are still looking for meets how selfish can you be, yes it is hard with all the restrictions in place for us all and we are not going to get rid of covid with so many reckless people thinking there invisible Ive had 2 request for Christmas day. I felt more sorry for them tbh If im not travelling to see friends why the hell would I wana meet a total stranger. " | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. " Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E | |||
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"Why are the nightingale hospitals being shut down after so much money spend on equipment etc because nobody was going to use them in the first place just to scare the public that the pandemic is severe it’s all control " Oh FFS......... Your posts.... E | |||
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"Why are the nightingale hospitals being shut down after so much money spend on equipment etc because nobody was going to use them in the first place just to scare the public that the pandemic is severe it’s all control " It's because the NHS are under staffed by over 40000.everyone knew this so why build them if you havnt got the people to work in them. That's stupidity at its very best | |||
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"Dozens of meet requests in my local newsfeed daily... Reporting the profiles just blocks me from seeing them and the thrice daily requests to meet in their status updates continue...." Exactly, if you report them all that happens is that there appears to be a block between you, and they are still free to update their status. I'm sure if the site gave one warning, second time is then a week ban/lock etc. Plenty of locals with 'looking to meet status/anyone want to come round'. Been at it for months and they still update with the same. Believe the site should be doing more rather then remove status/blocking people. | |||
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"If you see anyone asking to meet report it. Admin will deal with it. If I click updates then you will find between 10 to 20 physical meet requests local to me at any given time. If I change my location to pretty much anywhere in the UK the same applies sadly. I get that with the sheer volume of users trying to meet it is incredibly hard to police but the same offenders in my local area have had these meet now status updates for months now with zero consequence to them. KJ" Bans for repeat offenders on an upwardly sliding duration. They'd soon get the message. E | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E" By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science." But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E | |||
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"If you see anyone asking to meet report it. Admin will deal with it." How do they actually deal with it because I’ve reported a few and they’re still asking for meets! | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E" Not if they have already had it. | |||
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"Why are the nightingale hospitals being shut down after so much money spend on equipment etc because nobody was going to use them in the first place just to scare the public that the pandemic is severe it’s all control It's because the NHS are under staffed by over 40000.everyone knew this so why build them if you havnt got the people to work in them. That's stupidity at its very best " Even so the NHS is severely understaffed where would you put people if they ran out of beds? I'm sure you have a better idea | |||
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"If you see anyone asking to meet report it. Admin will deal with it. If I click updates then you will find between 10 to 20 physical meet requests local to me at any given time. If I change my location to pretty much anywhere in the UK the same applies sadly. I get that with the sheer volume of users trying to meet it is incredibly hard to police but the same offenders in my local area have had these meet now status updates for months now with zero consequence to them. KJ Bans for repeat offenders on an upwardly sliding duration. They'd soon get the message. E" Agree 100% Sadly though that not the way its been handled. As many have highlighted the cats well and truly out of the bag and most forum members (at least) now know the only action taken is you the reporter is blocked from seeing the offending profile that worked early doors which gave the illusion of it been dealt with. Sadly the offending profiles are just allowed to carry on setting up meet after meet throughout this pandemic. They even blatantly put the details of the hotel meets, house parties on the webcam veris. Any thread that questions this policy is soon locked up and shutdown. KJ | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it." That's not entirely true. E | |||
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"Why are the nightingale hospitals being shut down after so much money spend on equipment etc because nobody was going to use them in the first place just to scare the public that the pandemic is severe it’s all control It's because the NHS are under staffed by over 40000.everyone knew this so why build them if you havnt got the people to work in them. That's stupidity at its very best Even so the NHS is severely understaffed where would you put people if they ran out of beds? I'm sure you have a better idea " so who looks, after the ones, in the beds, if they don't have enough staff. Perhaps if our previous governments, had not run the NHS down so much there, wouldnt be a situation like there is now. The NHS should not have been put int9 the hands of trusts, constantly cutting corners, too many useless chiefs with job titles and no proper jobs, and not enough Indians has been a huge problem for years,. | |||
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"If you see anyone asking to meet report it. Admin will deal with it. If I click updates then you will find between 10 to 20 physical meet requests local to me at any given time. If I change my location to pretty much anywhere in the UK the same applies sadly. I get that with the sheer volume of users trying to meet it is incredibly hard to police but the same offenders in my local area have had these meet now status updates for months now with zero consequence to them. KJ Bans for repeat offenders on an upwardly sliding duration. They'd soon get the message. E Agree 100% Sadly though that not the way its been handled. As many have highlighted the cats well and truly out of the bag and most forum members (at least) now know the only action taken is you the reporter is blocked from seeing the offending profile that worked early doors which gave the illusion of it been dealt with. Sadly the offending profiles are just allowed to carry on setting up meet after meet throughout this pandemic. They even blatantly put the details of the hotel meets, house parties on the webcam veris. Any thread that questions this policy is soon locked up and shutdown. KJ" I understand it would be an administrative nightmare, I feel it's worth the effort though. E | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. " Yes you can, you can have immunity, you could even have the vacinne yet still be a carrier... you’re less contagious but you can still carry it. If you are snogging people in that state... they are infected | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. That's not entirely true. E" On that basis I should get my order in for the Ferrari straight away because anyone can win the lottery. | |||
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" Get a grip, that's what the health service is there for and why we pay nurses and doctors to do their job." Perhaps you missed the salient facts, uncontrolled covid infection rates would diminish the health service infrastructure, creating demand that was unsupportable, that's the issue, not what people are getting paid to do. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. That's not entirely true. E On that basis I should get my order in for the Ferrari straight away because anyone can win the lottery." You're not getting your information from the same place as the rest of the scientific community. Just a simple Google search for can you catch covid twice will help you. E | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it." Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. | |||
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"It shocking how many status we see daily especially single males and a handful of couples are still looking for meets how selfish can you be, yes it is hard with all the restrictions in place for us all and we are not going to get rid of covid with so many reckless people thinking there invisible " Im amazed at people asking when our next social is , the reply is when its safe to bloody do so | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. " Very very vefy few. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. That's not entirely true. E On that basis I should get my order in for the Ferrari straight away because anyone can win the lottery." Think of it, that your body gets infected as normal but can respond better, so you probably won't even know. Still spread it unfortunately | |||
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"Why are the nightingale hospitals being shut down after so much money spend on equipment etc because nobody was going to use them in the first place just to scare the public that the pandemic is severe it’s all control It's because the NHS are under staffed by over 40000.everyone knew this so why build them if you havnt got the people to work in them. That's stupidity at its very best Even so the NHS is severely understaffed where would you put people if they ran out of beds? I'm sure you have a better idea so who looks, after the ones, in the beds, if they don't have enough staff. Perhaps if our previous governments, had not run the NHS down so much there, wouldnt be a situation like there is now. The NHS should not have been put int9 the hands of trusts, constantly cutting corners, too many useless chiefs with job titles and no proper jobs, and not enough Indians has been a huge problem for years,. " I'm not disagreeing with you about funding. I was simply asking you what you would have done if we ran out of beds also one on a bridgend trading estate has people in at the moment, the article dated 21st dec says around 100 in there plus they opened the Grange hospital just outside of Newport 6 months early which is full so you could almost class that as a nightingale hospital as it wouldn't be open if the virus wasn't here. | |||
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"Why are the nightingale hospitals being shut down after so much money spend on equipment etc because nobody was going to use them in the first place just to scare the public that the pandemic is severe it’s all control " I have found more intelligent posts within a fence... | |||
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"If you see anyone asking to meet report it. Admin will deal with it. If I click updates then you will find between 10 to 20 physical meet requests local to me at any given time. If I change my location to pretty much anywhere in the UK the same applies sadly. I get that with the sheer volume of users trying to meet it is incredibly hard to police but the same offenders in my local area have had these meet now status updates for months now with zero consequence to them. KJ Bans for repeat offenders on an upwardly sliding duration. They'd soon get the message. E Agree 100% Sadly though that not the way its been handled. As many have highlighted the cats well and truly out of the bag and most forum members (at least) now know the only action taken is you the reporter is blocked from seeing the offending profile that worked early doors which gave the illusion of it been dealt with. Sadly the offending profiles are just allowed to carry on setting up meet after meet throughout this pandemic. They even blatantly put the details of the hotel meets, house parties on the webcam veris. Any thread that questions this policy is soon locked up and shutdown. KJ I understand it would be an administrative nightmare, I feel it's worth the effort though. E" Totally and I feel many would volunteer to help out with the task as there's no doubt it would save numerous lives. KJ | |||
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"I have been reporting anybody asking for a meet to admin. Don’t really care if anybody sends me abuse for it - the moronic justifications I have read are embarrassing. " Yes me too - I’d guess around erm 10 a day? Just checked and I’ve reported 6 today | |||
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"Dozens of meet requests in my local newsfeed daily... Reporting the profiles just blocks me from seeing them and the thrice daily requests to meet in their status updates continue.... Exactly, if you report them all that happens is that there appears to be a block between you, and they are still free to update their status. I'm sure if the site gave one warning, second time is then a week ban/lock etc. This is true. I’ve reported so many but all they do is block you from seeing them. I’ve just reported one guy who says he’s not meeting but with a status that says he’s looking for anyone to come use him any way they want! It’s crazy.... we are a selfish self entitled society now unfortunately. You also get a forum ban if you give your opinions on a post about people meeting. You’re more or less told you’re a bully and unkind !! Setiously???? Plenty of locals with 'looking to meet status/anyone want to come round'. Been at it for months and they still update with the same. Believe the site should be doing more rather then remove status/blocking people. " | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. " So if the R rate was about 3 when there was no social distancing at the beginning, and 1 in 1000 people can catch it twice to the extent they could pass it on (which is probably a very conservative estimate) then the R rate would be 0.003 for previously infected people. I don't think we have anything to worry about from those who have caught it doing what the hell they like. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. So if the R rate was about 3 when there was no social distancing at the beginning, and 1 in 1000 people can catch it twice to the extent they could pass it on (which is probably a very conservative estimate) then the R rate would be 0.003 for previously infected people. I don't think we have anything to worry about from those who have caught it doing what the hell they like. " Even if you can't catch it twice (You can) you can still be a carrier and give it to someone else. Why don't you understand this? E | |||
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"It shocking how many status we see daily especially single males and a handful of couples are still looking for meets how selfish can you be, yes it is hard with all the restrictions in place for us all and we are not going to get rid of covid with so many reckless people thinking there invisible " But tbh no one is going to meet them no matter how many requests they put up for meets? X | |||
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"maybe they see you as selfish too wanting them to give up their freedom for you fear. every body has a right to believe or not believe what they like, and to live their lives the way they see fit." Partially true, however if your choice of lifestyle puts others at risk it's no longer just your choice as what you do can be a direct cause of someone else's death. | |||
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"maybe they see you as selfish too wanting them to give up their freedom for you fear. every body has a right to believe or not believe what they like, and to live their lives the way they see fit." No they don’t if their actions put others at risk it’s called a social responsibility. | |||
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"shall we all stop driving our cars etc then, so we don't knock any one over We take risks every single day of our lives, we are literally born to die. I have never had a TB jab, yet 1.5 million die every year from TB. Shall I get a TB jab, just In case I infect some one. You have to draw the line somewhere, cruel but a fact of life." And if you gave your mum, your wife, your children or your grandad an illness that killed them? Such a selfish and self indulgent comment. E | |||
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"shall we all stop driving our cars etc then, so we don't knock any one over We take risks every single day of our lives, we are literally born to die. I have never had a TB jab, yet 1.5 million die every year from TB. Shall I get a TB jab, just In case I infect some one. You have to draw the line somewhere, cruel but a fact of life." What has this got to do with anything. However when you drive a car you are governed by the law's of the land and highway code to reduce those risks. If you worked or lived in an environment where TB was a high risk then you would take the necessary precautions. Ridiculous comparisons | |||
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"shall we all stop driving our cars etc then, so we don't knock any one over We take risks every single day of our lives, we are literally born to die. I have never had a TB jab, yet 1.5 million die every year from TB. Shall I get a TB jab, just In case I infect some one. You have to draw the line somewhere, cruel but a fact of life." ^ He has a point! X | |||
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"shall we all stop driving our cars etc then, so we don't knock any one over We take risks every single day of our lives, we are literally born to die. I have never had a TB jab, yet 1.5 million die every year from TB. Shall I get a TB jab, just In case I infect some one. You have to draw the line somewhere, cruel but a fact of life." You cannot compare TB with Covid at all. The pathogenesis and epidemiology of the two diseases is as similar as apples are to slabs of concrete. | |||
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"shall we all stop driving our cars etc then, so we don't knock any one over We take risks every single day of our lives, we are literally born to die. I have never had a TB jab, yet 1.5 million die every year from TB. Shall I get a TB jab, just In case I infect some one. You have to draw the line somewhere, cruel but a fact of life." You wear a seatbelt and tbh just nah... I really cba wirh another forum ban so ‘Steps away from the ...... | |||
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"Nothing selfish at all, its called life, I hug all my family on a regular basis, and have done all my life, and will carry on doing so, for you to suggest no one should be free, just to allay your fears is totally selfish. " It’s not just about the risk of transmission, but that alone should be enough. It’s about the businesses that are going under and the law abiding folk who have been stuck in their houses for months on end with no company, and all the other knock on effects that come from lockdowns and the tier system. Everyone who is flouting the rules is causing all of that. Those who are still meeting, or those who are shoulder to shoulder in the shops, not keeping their distance and seeing and touching people they shouldn’t are just prolonging the agony for everyone. It’s enormously selfish. | |||
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"Nothing selfish at all, its called life, I hug all my family on a regular basis, and have done all my life, and will carry on doing so, for you to suggest no one should be free, just to allay your fears is totally selfish. It’s not just about the risk of transmission, but that alone should be enough. It’s about the businesses that are going under and the law abiding folk who have been stuck in their houses for months on end with no company, and all the other knock on effects that come from lockdowns and the tier system. Everyone who is flouting the rules is causing all of that. Those who are still meeting, or those who are shoulder to shoulder in the shops, not keeping their distance and seeing and touching people they shouldn’t are just prolonging the agony for everyone. It’s enormously selfish. " Belive me there is no choice in the shops! X | |||
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"Nothing selfish at all, its called life, I hug all my family on a regular basis, and have done all my life, and will carry on doing so, for you to suggest no one should be free, just to allay your fears is totally selfish. It’s not just about the risk of transmission, but that alone should be enough. It’s about the businesses that are going under and the law abiding folk who have been stuck in their houses for months on end with no company, and all the other knock on effects that come from lockdowns and the tier system. Everyone who is flouting the rules is causing all of that. Those who are still meeting, or those who are shoulder to shoulder in the shops, not keeping their distance and seeing and touching people they shouldn’t are just prolonging the agony for everyone. It’s enormously selfish. Belive me there is no choice in the shops! X" The choice is not to go | |||
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"If you see anyone asking to meet report it. Admin will deal with it." Im repirting a dozen a day.. Some of the updates are revolting or illegal on top of covid. Reported one as he was wanting to involve a pet.... | |||
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"It shocking how many status we see daily especially single males and a handful of couples are still looking for meets how selfish can you be, yes it is hard with all the restrictions in place for us all and we are not going to get rid of covid with so many reckless people thinking there invisible " Well said. | |||
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"Nothing selfish at all, its called life, I hug all my family on a regular basis, and have done all my life, and will carry on doing so, for you to suggest no one should be free, just to allay your fears is totally selfish. " It's not to allay our fears, it's to stop the spread of Covid. Why do some people not get this? It's astounding. Continuing to do whatever you choose to do, regardless of the consequences, with no care for the outcome of your actions is the very definition of selfish. E | |||
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"This covid virus is a global problem and the uk is not the only country restricted. Forget people on fab meeting up, you have mp's, pop stars and even the president of America demonstrates bad examples of breaching the rules. I have no issue if people have had enough of the lockdown and want to meet up, they take there own risk. Similarly if people decide not to use a condom, they take their own risks. " well said. | |||
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"I find it hard to believe that people from Fab who meet are the cause of the rise in infections. Usually its just two people that meet. Before Christmas you could go to the high Street, supermarket, pub, restaurant, market etc and come into contact with hundreds. " Almost speechless. So.... You compare people walking past eachother in a huge shop... With air exchangers... With couple spending 4 hours breathing into eachother mouths, swapping saliva in a bedroom with and 8 foot ceiling. Yep. | |||
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"I find it hard to believe that people from Fab who meet are the cause of the rise in infections. Usually its just two people that meet. Before Christmas you could go to the high Street, supermarket, pub, restaurant, market etc and come into contact with hundreds. " Yup! X | |||
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"Nothing selfish at all, its called life, I hug all my family on a regular basis, and have done all my life, and will carry on doing so, for you to suggest no one should be free, just to allay your fears is totally selfish. It’s not just about the risk of transmission, but that alone should be enough. It’s about the businesses that are going under and the law abiding folk who have been stuck in their houses for months on end with no company, and all the other knock on effects that come from lockdowns and the tier system. Everyone who is flouting the rules is causing all of that. Those who are still meeting, or those who are shoulder to shoulder in the shops, not keeping their distance and seeing and touching people they shouldn’t are just prolonging the agony for everyone. It’s enormously selfish. Belive me there is no choice in the shops! X The choice is not to go Umm and starve to death? X No, the supermarkets are different. Aside from Christmas they’re usually. But the Christmas and sales shoppers are ridiculous. They are... My local high street, which has no essential shops on it... Was absolutely rammed this afternoon. Little attempt at social distancing... What the fxxx...my local infection rates through the roof.. I hope nobody gets it... But my god they were giving it every chance to spread. " Just an average day in the supermarket then? X | |||
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"Nothing selfish at all, its called life, I hug all my family on a regular basis, and have done all my life, and will carry on doing so, for you to suggest no one should be free, just to allay your fears is totally selfish. It’s not just about the risk of transmission, but that alone should be enough. It’s about the businesses that are going under and the law abiding folk who have been stuck in their houses for months on end with no company, and all the other knock on effects that come from lockdowns and the tier system. Everyone who is flouting the rules is causing all of that. Those who are still meeting, or those who are shoulder to shoulder in the shops, not keeping their distance and seeing and touching people they shouldn’t are just prolonging the agony for everyone. It’s enormously selfish. Belive me there is no choice in the shops! X The choice is not to go Umm and starve to death? X No, the supermarkets are different. Aside from Christmas they’re usually. But the Christmas and sales shoppers are ridiculous. They are... My local high street, which has no essential shops on it... Was absolutely rammed this afternoon. Little attempt at social distancing... What the fxxx...my local infection rates through the roof.. I hope nobody gets it... But my god they were giving it every chance to spread. Just an average day in the supermarket then? X" Not saying that... I'm saying what short memories people have for the fact we are in tier4.... If they were in the supermarket doing essential shopping hopefully would not be a hole family group... And hopefully being more mindful. It wld be different if our local infection rates were low.. But they aren't, they are over 360. As the title of the thread says I mean all the fucking shops are shut... Why the fuck walk the family down the effing High Street.? No wonder we are in tier4. | |||
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"We have been offering virtual zoom wanks for our friends. Anything to stop people being tempted to go out and meet. We also support the clubs that have come together to offer online fun. We know it isn’t the same, but we’d prefer all our playmates to be here to meet up again in the future. Stay safe everyone. X " | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. So if the R rate was about 3 when there was no social distancing at the beginning, and 1 in 1000 people can catch it twice to the extent they could pass it on (which is probably a very conservative estimate) then the R rate would be 0.003 for previously infected people. I don't think we have anything to worry about from those who have caught it doing what the hell they like. Even if you can't catch it twice (You can) you can still be a carrier and give it to someone else. Why don't you understand this? E" How exactly can you be a carrier? When a PCR test says you haven't got it, you really haven't got it. If there was so much as one little virus waiting to jump ship and infect someone else then a 45 cycle pcr test is going to find it. You can't catch it (tiny chance), you are not a carrier. | |||
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"Nothing selfish at all, its called life, I hug all my family on a regular basis, and have done all my life, and will carry on doing so, for you to suggest no one should be free, just to allay your fears is totally selfish. It’s not just about the risk of transmission, but that alone should be enough. It’s about the businesses that are going under and the law abiding folk who have been stuck in their houses for months on end with no company, and all the other knock on effects that come from lockdowns and the tier system. Everyone who is flouting the rules is causing all of that. Those who are still meeting, or those who are shoulder to shoulder in the shops, not keeping their distance and seeing and touching people they shouldn’t are just prolonging the agony for everyone. It’s enormously selfish. Belive me there is no choice in the shops! X The choice is not to go Umm and starve to death? X No, the supermarkets are different. Aside from Christmas they’re usually. But the Christmas and sales shoppers are ridiculous. Supermarkets are really not any different! X" Like you said originally, we all have to eat, so we have to go to the supermarket. We can wear masks, keep our distance and get in and get out. It’s a necessity. Trawling round the high street isn’t. Anything can be avoided should be. Like frivolous shopping and swinging. | |||
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"Nothing selfish at all, its called life, I hug all my family on a regular basis, and have done all my life, and will carry on doing so, for you to suggest no one should be free, just to allay your fears is totally selfish. It’s not just about the risk of transmission, but that alone should be enough. It’s about the businesses that are going under and the law abiding folk who have been stuck in their houses for months on end with no company, and all the other knock on effects that come from lockdowns and the tier system. Everyone who is flouting the rules is causing all of that. Those who are still meeting, or those who are shoulder to shoulder in the shops, not keeping their distance and seeing and touching people they shouldn’t are just prolonging the agony for everyone. It’s enormously selfish. Belive me there is no choice in the shops! X The choice is not to go Umm and starve to death? X No, the supermarkets are different. Aside from Christmas they’re usually. But the Christmas and sales shoppers are ridiculous. Supermarkets are really not any different! X Like you said originally, we all have to eat, so we have to go to the supermarket. We can wear masks, keep our distance and get in and get out. It’s a necessity. Trawling round the high street isn’t. Anything can be avoided should be. Like frivolous shopping and swinging. " If only! I work as a picker so am in there 7 hrs masked up! Customers do not keep their distance whatsoever any which way! They lean over/under me ! Lift their mask up/down/to the side to ask where the pickles are it's a joke lol! X | |||
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"Nothing selfish at all, its called life, I hug all my family on a regular basis, and have done all my life, and will carry on doing so, for you to suggest no one should be free, just to allay your fears is totally selfish. It’s not just about the risk of transmission, but that alone should be enough. It’s about the businesses that are going under and the law abiding folk who have been stuck in their houses for months on end with no company, and all the other knock on effects that come from lockdowns and the tier system. Everyone who is flouting the rules is causing all of that. Those who are still meeting, or those who are shoulder to shoulder in the shops, not keeping their distance and seeing and touching people they shouldn’t are just prolonging the agony for everyone. It’s enormously selfish. Belive me there is no choice in the shops! X The choice is not to go Umm and starve to death? X No, the supermarkets are different. Aside from Christmas they’re usually. But the Christmas and sales shoppers are ridiculous. They are... My local high street, which has no essential shops on it... Was absolutely rammed this afternoon. Little attempt at social distancing... What the fxxx...my local infection rates through the roof.. I hope nobody gets it... But my god they were giving it every chance to spread. Just an average day in the supermarket then? X Not saying that... I'm saying what short memories people have for the fact we are in tier4.... If they were in the supermarket doing essential shopping hopefully would not be a hole family group... And hopefully being more mindful. It wld be different if our local infection rates were low.. But they aren't, they are over 360. As the title of the thread says I mean all the fucking shops are shut... Why the fuck walk the family down the effing High Street.? No wonder we are in tier4. " It’s not rocket science is it .. some people actually lack the brain cells to comprehend though | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. So if the R rate was about 3 when there was no social distancing at the beginning, and 1 in 1000 people can catch it twice to the extent they could pass it on (which is probably a very conservative estimate) then the R rate would be 0.003 for previously infected people. I don't think we have anything to worry about from those who have caught it doing what the hell they like. Even if you can't catch it twice (You can) you can still be a carrier and give it to someone else. Why don't you understand this? E How exactly can you be a carrier? When a PCR test says you haven't got it, you really haven't got it. If there was so much as one little virus waiting to jump ship and infect someone else then a 45 cycle pcr test is going to find it. You can't catch it (tiny chance), you are not a carrier. " That's funny. Not that long ago you were moaning about the pcr tests not being accurate. Now, to make you're point they're perfect. What about the people who haven't had a pcr test, they wouldn't know if they had C19 or not would they? E | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. So if the R rate was about 3 when there was no social distancing at the beginning, and 1 in 1000 people can catch it twice to the extent they could pass it on (which is probably a very conservative estimate) then the R rate would be 0.003 for previously infected people. I don't think we have anything to worry about from those who have caught it doing what the hell they like. Even if you can't catch it twice (You can) you can still be a carrier and give it to someone else. Why don't you understand this? E How exactly can you be a carrier? When a PCR test says you haven't got it, you really haven't got it. If there was so much as one little virus waiting to jump ship and infect someone else then a 45 cycle pcr test is going to find it. You can't catch it (tiny chance), you are not a carrier. That's funny. Not that long ago you were moaning about the pcr tests not being accurate. Now, to make you're point they're perfect. What about the people who haven't had a pcr test, they wouldn't know if they had C19 or not would they? E" Then if they haven't had a pcr positive (or tested positive for the antibodies) then they can't really put themselves and the group of those that have had it. | |||
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"This covid virus is a global problem and the uk is not the only country restricted. Forget people on fab meeting up, you have mp's, pop stars and even the president of America demonstrates bad examples of breaching the rules. I have no issue if people have had enough of the lockdown and want to meet up, they take there own risk. Similarly if people decide not to use a condom, they take their own risks. " If only it were so. Sadly it's not just about them in with case. Both are the primary reason for spreading the virus and STIs. So not all of us agree that there's no issue with spreading the virus simply because we've had enough and fuck anyone else. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. So if the R rate was about 3 when there was no social distancing at the beginning, and 1 in 1000 people can catch it twice to the extent they could pass it on (which is probably a very conservative estimate) then the R rate would be 0.003 for previously infected people. I don't think we have anything to worry about from those who have caught it doing what the hell they like. Even if you can't catch it twice (You can) you can still be a carrier and give it to someone else. Why don't you understand this? E" They will never understand this as it is their justification for meeting people for sex which to them is more important than if they are passing on the virus. | |||
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"Why are the nightingale hospitals being shut down after so much money spend on equipment etc because nobody was going to use them in the first place just to scare the public that the pandemic is severe it’s all control Hospitals don't have enough staff due to them dropping like flies, you can have hundreds of beds in these nightingale hospitals but they're useless if you can't staff them. " When they have to use them it will be the military medics that will be staffing them. The NHS doesn't have enough staff to run both operations. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. So if the R rate was about 3 when there was no social distancing at the beginning, and 1 in 1000 people can catch it twice to the extent they could pass it on (which is probably a very conservative estimate) then the R rate would be 0.003 for previously infected people. I don't think we have anything to worry about from those who have caught it doing what the hell they like. Even if you can't catch it twice (You can) you can still be a carrier and give it to someone else. Why don't you understand this? E They will never understand this as it is their justification for meeting people for sex which to them is more important than if they are passing on the virus. " Who are they? X | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. Yes there are cases of people having second infections. Not many. But some. So if the R rate was about 3 when there was no social distancing at the beginning, and 1 in 1000 people can catch it twice to the extent they could pass it on (which is probably a very conservative estimate) then the R rate would be 0.003 for previously infected people. I don't think we have anything to worry about from those who have caught it doing what the hell they like. Even if you can't catch it twice (You can) you can still be a carrier and give it to someone else. Why don't you understand this? E They will never understand this as it is their justification for meeting people for sex which to them is more important than if they are passing on the virus. " Sadly elementary stupidity at its best. And these are people some of us look to meet. | |||
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"So many couples and single women are asking in Norwich with really unsuspicious statuses like ‘Really fancied 2 cocks tonight, what a shame about covid anyone?’ One last night was ‘fuck covid, craving bbc’ This morning coincidently 2 pictures were uploaded of said member being fucked by a ‘bbc’ Can’t speak for males as I can’t see them but yeah it’s no surprise honestly as I’m sure there’s plenty asking as well.." There are plenty men wanting to meet, their statuses beggars belief! I for one, am not meeting but obviously they don't realise this as I get messages asking me. I just block them as I still can't quite believe they're taking such irresponsible risks x | |||
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"My experience is an awful lot more couples than single men asking me to meet. " me too,I've seen more status updates from couples asking to meet than I have from singles..do they think covid doesn't exist? | |||
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"My experience is an awful lot more couples than single men asking me to meet. me too,I've seen more status updates from couples asking to meet than I have from singles..do they think covid doesn't exist? " Our status has been interpreted as meet related, based on recent PMs. In fact, it's a reference to a forum thread from Christmas Eve.... | |||
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"Dozens of meet requests in my local newsfeed daily... Reporting the profiles just blocks me from seeing them and the thrice daily requests to meet in their status updates continue.... Its horribly selfish how many still seek meets with random strangers, when the rest of us are struggling to see family and friends. Instant bans ought to apply to repeat offenders! " Agreed. | |||
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"Dozens of meet requests in my local newsfeed daily... Reporting the profiles just blocks me from seeing them and the thrice daily requests to meet in their status updates continue.... Its horribly selfish how many still seek meets with random strangers, when the rest of us are struggling to see family and friends. Instant bans ought to apply to repeat offenders! Agreed." I second that | |||
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"I find it hard to believe that people from Fab who meet are the cause of the rise in infections. Usually its just two people that meet. Before Christmas you could go to the high Street, supermarket, pub, restaurant, market etc and come into contact with hundreds. Almost speechless. So.... You compare people walking past eachother in a huge shop... With air exchangers... With couple spending 4 hours breathing into eachother mouths, swapping saliva in a bedroom with and 8 foot ceiling. Yep. " 4 hours? I'm lucky if I get 40 minutes with a guy. I live in a small town with 4 medium sized supermarkets, the aisles aren't even 2 metres wide. You have cages in the aisle waiting to be packed away. Your trying to look at something, someone barges pass you. Then there's the queue at the checkout. Plus half the self service tills are card only if you want to pay by cash you wait in a group of people who want to pay cash because people are using those tills any paying by card?? Wait to you get to the market on a Wednesday or Saturday. On a dry day 200 people plus traders crammed into a small market Square, I don't know how it's allowed? Absolutely no room for social distancing, tables out so you can sit for coffee, people rubbing past you. I would rather just stick to one person thank you. | |||
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"Just my 2 cents here.. The living situation of each person varies.. not all people have family in the uk , they might be living alone so yes for them there’s no “risk” to meet someone?" How so? | |||
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"Just my 2 cents here.. The living situation of each person varies.. not all people have family in the uk , they might be living alone so yes for them there’s no “risk” to meet someone? How so?" In the sense that a person with no underlying conditions , living by themselves in a city where everything is shut and does online groceries for example or wears mask whenever in public.. has to weight on the risks.. Do I not socialise/have sex with anyone for a year + ? Or go for it and if I cAtch it I will be fine as I’m not on the high risk group of people and I don’t have interactions with elderly etc | |||
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"Just my 2 cents here.. The living situation of each person varies.. not all people have family in the uk , they might be living alone so yes for them there’s no “risk” to meet someone? How so? In the sense that a person with no underlying conditions , living by themselves in a city where everything is shut and does online groceries for example or wears mask whenever in public.. has to weight on the risks.. Do I not socialise/have sex with anyone for a year + ? Or go for it and if I cAtch it I will be fine as I’m not on the high risk group of people and I don’t have interactions with elderly etc" One of the women I know who's in her 30s, 2 young kids, she ain't high risk at all. No underlying conditions. She had it back in April and can still barely climb stairs. Long covid is no joke. Life changing shit I'm telling ya. So yeah, you've probably got decades in front of ya, do you fancy spending those decades living with regret and fuck all quality of life? | |||
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"This covid virus is a global problem and the uk is not the only country restricted. Forget people on fab meeting up, you have mp's, pop stars and even the president of America demonstrates bad examples of breaching the rules. I have no issue if people have had enough of the lockdown and want to meet up, they take there own risk. Similarly if people decide not to use a condom, they take their own risks. " Except unlike with condoms they are not really taking their own risk, if fit enough to fk a stranger they will almost certainly not die due to Covid. Social distancing, hand washing, masks, lockdowns, none of it is about protecting oneself, after 9 months do you still not get it? | |||
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"Just my 2 cents here.. The living situation of each person varies.. not all people have family in the uk , they might be living alone so yes for them there’s no “risk” to meet someone? How so? In the sense that a person with no underlying conditions , living by themselves in a city where everything is shut and does online groceries for example or wears mask whenever in public.. has to weight on the risks.. Do I not socialise/have sex with anyone for a year + ? Or go for it and if I cAtch it I will be fine as I’m not on the high risk group of people and I don’t have interactions with elderly etc One of the women I know who's in her 30s, 2 young kids, she ain't high risk at all. No underlying conditions. She had it back in April and can still barely climb stairs. Long covid is no joke. Life changing shit I'm telling ya. So yeah, you've probably got decades in front of ya, do you fancy spending those decades living with regret and fuck all quality of life? " She has two children, instantly dismisses my argument that I’m saying you live by yourself. Long story short, if I were to catch covid I’ll be okay . I’ll rather have that than go nuts by shielding from others Plus the “long covid” you are referring to is not the norm of this disease, might as well try my luck in the lottery | |||
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"If it was as deadly as the MSM push every single day, the Army, Air Force and Navy medical, and other personel would be utilised accordingly, ie, transport to deliver PPE at the start, tri services all have helicopters, lorries, man and women power in abundance. There all being paid 24/7 already. There is no major conflicts going on. The Nightingale hospital in London, has been dismantled, Excel exhibition centre is empty. I'm no conspiracy theory, though what some have said seems to be coming true ,lock down, vaccine passport. I, my opinion, its not going anywhere fast. Take care people. Be lucky x" Do you know where most of the Forces medical professionals are working right now? In the NHS. That's because the majority of forces medics are reserves and have regular day jobs. In the NHS. Where they are now. We don't have enough spare staff for all the Nightingales (which the Govt knew in March). | |||
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"Just my 2 cents here.. The living situation of each person varies.. not all people have family in the uk , they might be living alone so yes for them there’s no “risk” to meet someone?" Unless you never leave the house (work from home, don’t go to the shops etc) then you’re a risk to that one person you meet. And then you’re a risk to the people you see in the shops and/or at work because of the person you’ve met. The only way to be no risk is to keep yourself to yourself. I’m a single person, but I’ve been lucky enough to be able to form a bubble with my FWB so I’ve been able to see him all year which has been a life saver. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with choosing a person to bubble up with. That’s different from seeing multiple people who are also seeing multiple people. | |||
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"Why are the nightingale hospitals being shut down after so much money spend on equipment etc because nobody was going to use them in the first place just to scare the public that the pandemic is severe it’s all control It's because the NHS are under staffed by over 40000.everyone knew this so why build them if you havnt got the people to work in them. That's stupidity at its very best " I assume military medics if it got to that stage. However that would be a last resort as it would cause panic, which contrary to conspiracy nuts, they are trying to avoid, as that hurts the economy which lets not kid ourselves, is the reason for the half-measures and reactive policies we've seen so far. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. But. Anyone. Can. Catch. It. That's even less rocket science. E Not if they have already had it. That's not entirely true. E On that basis I should get my order in for the Ferrari straight away because anyone can win the lottery." Let me try to explain, you catch the virus first time, your immune system learns to recognise the virus and make antibodies, fighting off the virus. You recover. Then you get exposed to the virus again. You don't have a magic shield, just your body remembers the virus and knows how to fight it off this time, so you don't get sick, but the virus is still in your body while you're fighting it off. Now maybe because your body knows how to fight it, you don't get enough of a viral load to make you contagious or shed virus, but that's not what you're arguing. But as your body is fighting the virus, more quickly this time yes, you still might shed it, touching your face and touching other things so you still have to be careful and mindful of others. Also, what about these mutations, will you get exactly the same virus again? Will you body recognise it as the same virus? | |||
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"There is plenty all over the country and world to be called back. SPEARHEAD, reaction force worldwide? Not utilised FACT Over 500.000 unfortunate people died in the UK last year, that wasn't pushed day in, day out? FACT " Somebody wrote fact in upper case. Thread closed. E | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. " That is unknown....so why take the risk? | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science." It isn't rocket science. It's simple biology which you clearly do NOT understand or choose to ignore for your own ends? As with ALL viruses, someone who is immune CAN still be a carrier and pass it to others asymptomatically.... | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. It isn't rocket science. It's simple biology which you clearly do NOT understand or choose to ignore for your own ends? As with ALL viruses, someone who is immune CAN still be a carrier and pass it to others asymptomatically...." If they were a carrier then they would test positive and they would be told they had caught it again. | |||
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"What does it matter what other people are doing and who are we to pass judgement. Let those who want to live their lives do so without others sticking their noses in. If you don’t want to meet, don’t meet but let others love how they choose." It's not passing judgement it's just common sense which some on here clearly do not have.. | |||
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"What does it matter what other people are doing and who are we to pass judgement. Let those who want to live their lives do so without others sticking their noses in. If you don’t want to meet, don’t meet but let others love how they choose." Unfortunately those who choose to meet are proliferating the spread of the virus, the risk isn't contained within that group of individuals, if it were I'd agree with you. But in my opinion it's perfectly appropriate to 'stick my nose in' where someone's selfish behaviour perpetuates the current misery and potentially puts my life and the lives of my loved ones at risk. | |||
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"What does it matter what other people are doing and who are we to pass judgement. Let those who want to live their lives do so without others sticking their noses in. If you don’t want to meet, don’t meet but let others love how they choose. It's not passing judgement it's just common sense which some on here clearly do not have.. " That’s fine but there’s too much preaching on what the ‘right’ thing to do is. Everyone is entitled to define what the ‘right’ thing for them is. | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to define what the ‘right’ thing for them is." I don't agree. That would be anarchy. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. It isn't rocket science. It's simple biology which you clearly do NOT understand or choose to ignore for your own ends? As with ALL viruses, someone who is immune CAN still be a carrier and pass it to others asymptomatically.... If they were a carrier then they would test positive and they would be told they had caught it again." An asymptomatic carrier would have no reason to be tested again, so wouldn't necessarily know they were positive. | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to define what the ‘right’ thing for them is. I don't agree. That would be anarchy. " I get where your coming from but I suppose my point is why should a bunch of morons on fab post judgement on other people? Surely that’s a bit ridiculous? | |||
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"What does it matter what other people are doing and who are we to pass judgement. Let those who want to live their lives do so without others sticking their noses in. If you don’t want to meet, don’t meet but let others love how they choose. It's not passing judgement it's just common sense which some on here clearly do not have.. That’s fine but there’s too much preaching on what the ‘right’ thing to do is. Everyone is entitled to define what the ‘right’ thing for them is." Imagine if everybody only did what the right thing for them is. What an awful world to live in. | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to define what the ‘right’ thing for them is. I don't agree. That would be anarchy. I get where your coming from but I suppose my point is why should a bunch of morons on fab post judgement on other people? Surely that’s a bit ridiculous? " Presumably you're including yourself in the definition of 'moron'? | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to define what the ‘right’ thing for them is. I don't agree. That would be anarchy. I get where your coming from but I suppose my point is why should a bunch of morons on fab post judgement on other people? Surely that’s a bit ridiculous? Presumably you're including yourself in the definition of 'moron'?" Yes, more or less. Just with a marginally higher IQ than most on here. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. It isn't rocket science. It's simple biology which you clearly do NOT understand or choose to ignore for your own ends? As with ALL viruses, someone who is immune CAN still be a carrier and pass it to others asymptomatically.... If they were a carrier then they would test positive and they would be told they had caught it again. An asymptomatic carrier would have no reason to be tested again, so wouldn't necessarily know they were positive." More significantly an Asymptomatic carrier is unable to get a retest as the only way to get a test is to have symptoms. | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. It isn't rocket science. It's simple biology which you clearly do NOT understand or choose to ignore for your own ends? As with ALL viruses, someone who is immune CAN still be a carrier and pass it to others asymptomatically.... If they were a carrier then they would test positive and they would be told they had caught it again. An asymptomatic carrier would have no reason to be tested again, so wouldn't necessarily know they were positive. More significantly an Asymptomatic carrier is unable to get a retest as the only way to get a test is to have symptoms. " True, buts it's possible to lie about the existence of symptoms to obtain a test. | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to define what the ‘right’ thing for them is. I don't agree. That would be anarchy. I get where your coming from but I suppose my point is why should a bunch of morons on fab post judgement on other people? Surely that’s a bit ridiculous? " If what others do has an impact on me... I'm going to have an opinion of and have freedom to voice that opinion. If that impact is risking spreading a virus we have all spent 10 months trying to reduce and exacerbate an already bad situation. I'm allowed an opinion. You see rights and freedoms don't just apply to one. | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to define what the ‘right’ thing for them is. I don't agree. That would be anarchy. I get where your coming from but I suppose my point is why should a bunch of morons on fab post judgement on other people? Surely that’s a bit ridiculous? Presumably you're including yourself in the definition of 'moron'? Yes, more or less. Just with a marginally higher IQ than most on here." Well with your contributions to this thread you're only improving your chances of meeting people with a similarly cavalier attitude towards covid, despite your IQ. | |||
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"Everyone is entitled to define what the ‘right’ thing for them is. I don't agree. That would be anarchy. I get where your coming from but I suppose my point is why should a bunch of morons on fab post judgement on other people? Surely that’s a bit ridiculous? If what others do has an impact on me... I'm going to have an opinion of and have freedom to voice that opinion. If that impact is risking spreading a virus we have all spent 10 months trying to reduce and exacerbate an already bad situation. I'm allowed an opinion. You see rights and freedoms don't just apply to one. " | |||
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"Wow, so many scared frightened people, the 'Behavioural Scientists' working with sage certainly did their jobs! Roll out the Propaganda folks!" You're quite right, a lot of us are scared, very scared, I work in health services and understand what the magnitude of the problem is and what covid looks like for patients who've been hospitalised with it and it's far from a pretty sight, even for those who ultimately make a recovery, including twenty something boys who thought they were totally insulated from the worst consequences of it. | |||
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"I’m a health care worker and am currently recovering from Covid. Let me tell you there’s not a shag in the world that’s worth feeling like this. I have been floored by this virus and am still feeling weak and foggy headed. No sense of taste or smell and I just want to sleep constantly. For all those that think they’re invincible, so did I. The reality is far different. Even if you are a symptomatic you can still suffer long term effects from this as some of my colleagues have discovered. Sex isn’t going anywhere. We all need to be cautious. V" Hope you make a full and speedy recovery | |||
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"Maybe they have already had the virus. If that were the case... Theyd probably say so don't you think? As its an assumed safe ticket for 3 months. Although can still pass it on to someone else. No you can't. Of course you can pass it on to someone else. How do you think it spreads? E By someone who has caught it and expressing the virus, giving it to someone else, if you can't catch it you can't give it to someone else, it's not rocket science. It isn't rocket science. It's simple biology which you clearly do NOT understand or choose to ignore for your own ends? As with ALL viruses, someone who is immune CAN still be a carrier and pass it to others asymptomatically.... If they were a carrier then they would test positive and they would be told they had caught it again. An asymptomatic carrier would have no reason to be tested again, so wouldn't necessarily know they were positive." Thats true but they do random sampling too. The figure for reinfections is shown to be tiny. In Brazil for instance, 7m cases 350 reinfections. Even if they only found 10% that would be a tiny chance of reinfection by any measure. Interesting point about asymptomatic infection. A study showed that an infected person had a 37% chance of infecting their spouse. Also you have a 17% chance of catching covid from someone in your household who is infected, but if the infected person is asymptomatic you have a 0.7% chance of catching it from them. Suggests asymptomatic people are not the risk they are making them out to be. | |||
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