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"And before anyone on here shoots me down. Our local MPs have, written to Mr(useless) Hancock expressing grave concerns. So this is no wind up " I was reading a dr having his cancelled 3 times due to "logistical issues ' | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. " The NHS is great ![]() ![]() | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"And before anyone on here shoots me down. Our local MPs have, written to Mr(useless) Hancock expressing grave concerns. So this is no wind up " No one should shoot you down,most can understand,however most of the vaccine hubs are up north,the vaccine needs to be down south too,especially now the new variety has been spotted down here. Brighton and tunbridge wells are the nearest over an hour,no chance of my area getting it anytime soon from them There is no hubs at present for hastings and rother area's which are hit bad at present,we are in the news alot lately Try and understand it needs to go to area's in need,as over a month ago we were one of the lowest now we are one of the highest,which as you know risks the northerners,as daft Londoners have ran away I understood when it went to the north first There are more vaccines on the way you will never be forgotten,the vaccine is needed in high infection areas | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() ![]() It'll be interesting to see if the people vote for a party in the future proposing to increase taxes to pay for extra funding of the NHS. | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() ![]() They should put more money in to in they should cut the top people's money and it to those on the front line ![]() | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() ![]() It is grossly over resourced and wastes money like Nobody’s business as anyone who works in the NHS will tell you. | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() ![]() Yep cos all this emergency stuff... Vaccine programs, testing, ICU beds is all for free and doesn't need funding or paying for. | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() ![]() I would yes, however it's the lack of honesty and trust that I think deters people from voting for such promises as a lot of people I reckon simply do not believe what they all say.. | |||
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"And before anyone on here shoots me down. Our local MPs have, written to Mr(useless) Hancock expressing grave concerns. So this is no wind up " I'm sure it's not. But where is the vaccine needed most right now? We are after all in an emergency situation and I think it's a little unrealistic and unforgiving to expect everything to run like clockwork. | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() ![]() Where does our tax go? | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() ![]() 22% welfare 20% health 12% pension 12% education 7% national debt 5% defence 4% transport Apparently | |||
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"The PM has said over half a million people have already had the first dose of the vaccine. This is an incredible achievement and I feel it's got a bit lost amongst all the other news! It also shows adverse reactions are super rare!" Need vaccination to be quicker need to get up to at least 2mill vacs a week but first we need the vaccine without the Oxford one we are in trouble | |||
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"the vaccine.incredible...however..what the prime minister says and what is reality are two totally different things.." You mean your a cynic | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. " Brilliant ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Yeh the NHS are amazing, well some parts of it are. My GP surgery has opted out of giving Covid vaccines; because they are 'too busy' ! Really 1. Surely it is a priority ? 2. It is impossible to get an appointment at the moment for anything, just fill in an online form and they guess what it wrong with you and send you a prescription. 3. They are doing flu vaccines, it takes two minutes, why does covid take longer and why not do them at the same time. So yes SOME of the NHS is great, some is just useless. " Quite surprising that. | |||
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"Yeh the NHS are amazing, well some parts of it are. My GP surgery has opted out of giving Covid vaccines; because they are 'too busy' ! Really 1. Surely it is a priority ? 2. It is impossible to get an appointment at the moment for anything, just fill in an online form and they guess what it wrong with you and send you a prescription. 3. They are doing flu vaccines, it takes two minutes, why does covid take longer and why not do them at the same time. So yes SOME of the NHS is great, some is just useless. " My understanding of the covid vaccine is that although it’s quick like others, you need to stay around for 15 minutes afterwards for observation. Maybe your GP doesn’t have enough safe space to facilitate that or the staff to complete it. As for GP appointments these have been mostly virtual since the first lockdown and I can’t see that changing anytime soon. Be honest with your symptoms in the form (and follow up voice consultation, if needed) and that, along with looking at medical history will help them make a diagnosis, they even ask for photographs sometimes to assist. I can’t fault our GP system, twice I’ve had to use it and I had a diagnosis and electronic prescription sent to local chemist on the same day. | |||
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"Half a million in a fortnight ! Sounds a lot But scale that up for a population of 67 million and see how long that's going to take. Comes to 67 months = 5.5 years" The official vaccine calculator is based on a million per week getting vaccinated. So unless this scales up I'm thinking the calculation will be way out... | |||
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"Yeh the NHS are amazing, well some parts of it are. My GP surgery has opted out of giving Covid vaccines; because they are 'too busy' ! Really 1. Surely it is a priority ? 2. It is impossible to get an appointment at the moment for anything, just fill in an online form and they guess what it wrong with you and send you a prescription. 3. They are doing flu vaccines, it takes two minutes, why does covid take longer and why not do them at the same time. So yes SOME of the NHS is great, some is just useless. " Not all GP surgeries are set up suitably to facilitate covid vaccinations. There needs to be at least 4 weeks between having your flu jab and having the covid vaccine. The people having the flu jab are not necessarily most at risk from covid. | |||
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"Great news. And, when stocks are in hand, Christmas out of the way, it will scale up. I feel better knowing that those most at risk will be getting greater protection from the most severe viral effects? " ![]() | |||
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"Yeh the NHS are amazing, well some parts of it are. My GP surgery has opted out of giving Covid vaccines; because they are 'too busy' ! Really 1. Surely it is a priority ? 2. It is impossible to get an appointment at the moment for anything, just fill in an online form and they guess what it wrong with you and send you a prescription. 3. They are doing flu vaccines, it takes two minutes, why does covid take longer and why not do them at the same time. So yes SOME of the NHS is great, some is just useless. Not all GP surgeries are set up suitably to facilitate covid vaccinations. There needs to be at least 4 weeks between having your flu jab and having the covid vaccine. The people having the flu jab are not necessarily most at risk from covid." I’m trailing a possible new one and had both the jab and the flu jab together. | |||
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"Yeh the NHS are amazing, well some parts of it are. My GP surgery has opted out of giving Covid vaccines; because they are 'too busy' ! Really 1. Surely it is a priority ? 2. It is impossible to get an appointment at the moment for anything, just fill in an online form and they guess what it wrong with you and send you a prescription. 3. They are doing flu vaccines, it takes two minutes, why does covid take longer and why not do them at the same time. So yes SOME of the NHS is great, some is just useless. Not all GP surgeries are set up suitably to facilitate covid vaccinations. There needs to be at least 4 weeks between having your flu jab and having the covid vaccine. The people having the flu jab are not necessarily most at risk from covid. I’m trailing a possible new one and had both the jab and the flu jab together. " Great, I hope it works for you as it will be a positive for everyone. | |||
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"Half a million in a fortnight ! Sounds a lot But scale that up for a population of 67 million and see how long that's going to take. Comes to 67 months = 5.5 years" This maths checks out :p We don't need the whole population vaccinated quickly only the most clinically at risk. Which im guessing is a few million. The rest of us can wait | |||
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"My Dad is having it today. My mum just phoned and said she is getting it the day after Boxing Day . I nearly cried when she told me. Silly old man I am. Not seen her properly since March bar one day. " Great news | |||
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"Yeh the NHS are amazing, well some parts of it are. My GP surgery has opted out of giving Covid vaccines; because they are 'too busy' ! Really 1. Surely it is a priority ? 2. It is impossible to get an appointment at the moment for anything, just fill in an online form and they guess what it wrong with you and send you a prescription. 3. They are doing flu vaccines, it takes two minutes, why does covid take longer and why not do them at the same time. So yes SOME of the NHS is great, some is just useless. " You're not allowed to say that! | |||
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"Yeh the NHS are amazing, well some parts of it are. My GP surgery has opted out of giving Covid vaccines; because they are 'too busy' ! Really 1. Surely it is a priority ? 2. It is impossible to get an appointment at the moment for anything, just fill in an online form and they guess what it wrong with you and send you a prescription. 3. They are doing flu vaccines, it takes two minutes, why does covid take longer and why not do them at the same time. So yes SOME of the NHS is great, some is just useless. You're not allowed to say that! " I think he just did. | |||
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"Half a million in a fortnight ! Sounds a lot But scale that up for a population of 67 million and see how long that's going to take. Comes to 67 months = 5.5 years" Glad to see someone can find a negative out of good news. | |||
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"Half a million in a fortnight ! Sounds a lot But scale that up for a population of 67 million and see how long that's going to take. Comes to 67 months = 5.5 years Glad to see someone can find a negative out of good news. " Nothing new there . ![]() | |||
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"Great news. And, when stocks are in hand, Christmas out of the way, it will scale up. I feel better knowing that those most at risk will be getting greater protection from the most severe viral effects? ![]() My Dad had his first one yesterday. I've been on the blower today about my application to train as a vaccine giver with St John Ambulance - should be in process for the New Year ![]() | |||
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"Great news. And, when stocks are in hand, Christmas out of the way, it will scale up. I feel better knowing that those most at risk will be getting greater protection from the most severe viral effects? ![]() ![]() Nice one well done. ![]() | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() Why is it great ? Every time I go I think how shit it is compared to other countries, atrocious admin systems, old buildings that need demolishing, burned out underpaid staff, GPs who know nothing about anything .. what’s so great ? | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() The fact that it saves peoples lives on a daily basis and they dont have to pay them to do so? | |||
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"Half a million in a fortnight ! Sounds a lot But scale that up for a population of 67 million and see how long that's going to take. Comes to 67 months = 5.5 years Glad to see someone can find a negative out of good news. " It's not a negative, its a number. A number which shows that it needs to be scaled up as quickly as possible so that 5.5 years becomes 5.5 months or less. Something which I hope is a top priority. If it is scaled up appropriately then well done nhs/gvmt. If it isn't then not well done nhs/gvmt. | |||
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"And the Oxford vaccines starting 28th Will be a huge game-changer You are correct in reminding everyone of the good news despite the hellish latest news. I think by end of Jan /Feb the whole mood of the country will have changed. " Is that true? 28th? | |||
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"And the Oxford vaccines starting 28th Will be a huge game-changer You are correct in reminding everyone of the good news despite the hellish latest news. I think by end of Jan /Feb the whole mood of the country will have changed. Is that true? 28th?" The 28th or 29th is the latest prediction from whitehall. | |||
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"And before anyone on here shoots me down. Our local MPs have, written to Mr(useless) Hancock expressing grave concerns. So this is no wind up No one should shoot you down,most can understand,however most of the vaccine hubs are up north,the vaccine needs to be down south too,especially now the new variety has been spotted down here. Brighton and tunbridge wells are the nearest over an hour,no chance of my area getting it anytime soon from them There is no hubs at present for hastings and rother area's which are hit bad at present,we are in the news alot lately Try and understand it needs to go to area's in need,as over a month ago we were one of the lowest now we are one of the highest,which as you know risks the northerners,as daft Londoners have ran away I understood when it went to the north first There are more vaccines on the way you will never be forgotten,the vaccine is needed in high infection areas " ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Having enough vaccine doses is only half of the equation The other half of it is having the trained staff to administer them without which it will take an age What will they come from ? Are soldiers trained to give inoculations ?" Yes. They do have a few army medics. | |||
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"And the Oxford vaccines starting 28th Will be a huge game-changer You are correct in reminding everyone of the good news despite the hellish latest news. I think by end of Jan /Feb the whole mood of the country will have changed. Is that true? 28th?The 28th or 29th is the latest prediction from whitehall." Fantastic. Now. Everyone should be getting this round the clock 24/7 | |||
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"And the Oxford vaccines starting 28th Will be a huge game-changer You are correct in reminding everyone of the good news despite the hellish latest news. I think by end of Jan /Feb the whole mood of the country will have changed. Is that true? 28th?The 28th or 29th is the latest prediction from whitehall." No scientific source has put a date on the Oxford vaccine. The data is with the MHRA and no-one from there will give a concrete date because they've not actually approved it. | |||
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"Having enough vaccine doses is only half of the equation The other half of it is having the trained staff to administer them without which it will take an age What will they come from ? Are soldiers trained to give inoculations ?" It isn't rocket science. | |||
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"Having enough vaccine doses is only half of the equation The other half of it is having the trained staff to administer them without which it will take an age What will they come from ? Are soldiers trained to give inoculations ? It isn't rocket science. " St John Ambulance are recruiting 30,000 vaccinators to work on a voluntary basis. I'm one of them. | |||
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"Having enough vaccine doses is only half of the equation The other half of it is having the trained staff to administer them without which it will take an age What will they come from ? Are soldiers trained to give inoculations ? It isn't rocket science. St John Ambulance are recruiting 30,000 vaccinators to work on a voluntary basis. I'm one of them." I've given loads of injections to cattle, not killed any of them yet, mind not sure I would need to put too many old folk into a head lock to make them keep still while jabbing them ![]() | |||
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"Having enough vaccine doses is only half of the equation The other half of it is having the trained staff to administer them without which it will take an age What will they come from ? Are soldiers trained to give inoculations ? It isn't rocket science. St John Ambulance are recruiting 30,000 vaccinators to work on a voluntary basis. I'm one of them. I've given loads of injections to cattle, not killed any of them yet, mind not sure I would need to put too many old folk into a head lock to make them keep still while jabbing them ![]() No, but also cattle don't faint (I imagine) or require reassurance when nervous. Emergency first aid for cattle is very different. I've injected cats and rabbits but I'm not going to start grabbing people by the scruff of their necks and inject into it! ![]() | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() ![]() How else are we going to fund this if not through taxes and budget cuts in certain areas? The nhs are quietly going about getting the vaccinations done and good on them, my doctors have sent out a blanket text telling people not to contact them, it would be nice if they communicated a bit more to put peoples minds at rest, the vaccine is the only thing the priority groups have to pin hope on at the moment. I am not dissing anyone, I think everyone is doing the very best they can in this difficult & changing environment. My heart goes out to the charities which are doing their best to give people a xmas and those people that run the food banks and are making xmas present bags & boxes deserve a medal xxxx ![]() | |||
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"My local clinic did 1167 innoculations on Saturday. The NHS has done an amazing job of getting the process in place so swiftly and efficiently. The NHS is great ![]() ![]() Well they do pay them... Just not at point or time of use. We spend a lifetime paying taxes and NI contributions for it. So it's a delusion to think it's free. My experience of the NHS is that it is fantastic at some things... Emergency care is one of them. In many other areas its very far from fantastic. It's unrealistic to expect 1.3 million employees to provide excellence. No other employer is able to do that. And the bottom line is... We are cheapskates who aren't prepared to pay enough for a proper health care system. It's done on the cheap, is a political football and you get what you pay for. That's not to say that front line staff right now aren't doing a brilliant job. But try and get anything else done or a gp appointment or decent counselling, or a dentist appt. | |||
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"Having enough vaccine doses is only half of the equation The other half of it is having the trained staff to administer them without which it will take an age What will they come from ? Are soldiers trained to give inoculations ? It isn't rocket science. St John Ambulance are recruiting 30,000 vaccinators to work on a voluntary basis. I'm one of them. I've given loads of injections to cattle, not killed any of them yet, mind not sure I would need to put too many old folk into a head lock to make them keep still while jabbing them ![]() ![]() One of my DiL is terrified of injections, it's not that hard to soothe people, | |||
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"We would of thought it should be double that figure. Get the army involved and get mass vaccination done. The quicker vaccinations are done the more effective it will be." We cant do more people than supplies allow and this one does have the problem of temp etc, the oxford is much easier to store so should be much quicker to distribute. We are past the worse, medically at least | |||
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"The PM has said over half a million people have already had the first dose of the vaccine. This is an incredible achievement and I feel it's got a bit lost amongst all the other news! It also shows adverse reactions are super rare!Need vaccination to be quicker need to get up to at least 2mill vacs a week but first we need the vaccine without the Oxford one we are in trouble" Very true about numbers and the need to for the Oxford vaccine it get passed for use. With the possibility of the NHS getting over run would it be the best use of resources when or if the Oxford vaccine getting the go ahead that elective operation and routine work within the NHS being stopped and the NHS concentrate on getting the most vulnerable vaccinated as quickly as possible and then concentrate on catching up with the backlog of work that has built up ove the past year. Of course cancer and emergency cases must continue. | |||
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"We would of thought it should be double that figure. Get the army involved and get mass vaccination done. The quicker vaccinations are done the more effective it will be." Definitely a Good idea ![]() | |||
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"Half a million in a fortnight ! Sounds a lot But scale that up for a population of 67 million and see how long that's going to take. Comes to 67 months = 5.5 years The official vaccine calculator is based on a million per week getting vaccinated. So unless this scales up I'm thinking the calculation will be way out..." We need 2 mill a week but can we get enough vaccines?The only hope we have is if the Oxford vaccine comes online | |||
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"And the Oxford vaccines starting 28th Will be a huge game-changer You are correct in reminding everyone of the good news despite the hellish latest news. I think by end of Jan /Feb the whole mood of the country will have changed. Is that true? 28th?The 28th or 29th is the latest prediction from whitehall. No scientific source has put a date on the Oxford vaccine. The data is with the MHRA and no-one from there will give a concrete date because they've not actually approved it. " We are guessing I hope and prey it is aproved before new year | |||
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"Some Doctors (not sure if all have) where I live have cancelled doing any more covid jabs at the moment as the surgery's can't cope with it on top of what else they do...they cancelled my Dad's appointment on Monday this week..21st December!! and there was a item in the newspaper confirming this was happening and not just in my area!! ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Having enough vaccine doses is only half of the equation The other half of it is having the trained staff to administer them without which it will take an age What will they come from ? Are soldiers trained to give inoculations ? It isn't rocket science. St John Ambulance are recruiting 30,000 vaccinators to work on a voluntary basis. I'm one of them." I'd love to do that. How did u go about it pm if you want. | |||
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"Having enough vaccine doses is only half of the equation The other half of it is having the trained staff to administer them without which it will take an age What will they come from ? Are soldiers trained to give inoculations ? It isn't rocket science. St John Ambulance are recruiting 30,000 vaccinators to work on a voluntary basis. I'm one of them. I'd love to do that. How did u go about it pm if you want. " You have to have a background in a medical or care related field, be an allied health professional or a fully trained emergency first responder or first aider and have experience in liaising with the public and a few other things. I got a message through SJA because I'd done professional courses with them before. I don't think applications are open to just anyone - I had a link within an email to click. | |||
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"Our community nurse gave me my flu jab at home as i am house bound with a broken back. Firstly she had to stay with me for 10 mins after the jab to make sure i didnt have a anaphalactic reaction. She also had an adrenaline injection just incase, btw never had any reaction to anything in my life. She has had the first vaccine injection being a frontline worker. But as she said everyone giving the vaccine will need to be able to sit for 10 mins and be adept in recognising any reactions and being trained in using an epi pen. So its going to be a long process but i am super proud to be british and we are first to role out the vaccine." Yup, and this is why not just anyone off the street can be trained to administer the vaccines although there will be volunteer roles for supporting people, like those booking people in, giving directions, filling in forms etc. | |||
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