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"By looking to the external heirarchy for resolution, never. The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact" So you have read the Art of War- this would be useful when? | |||
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"And your evidence/back up for such a statement? What about people that live on their own like me? Are you suggesting that we should never expect close contact with anyone ever again, in an intimidate way? " Not my statement, but that of a man held in high regard by many, none the less, apt. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please " If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. | |||
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"By looking to the external heirarchy for resolution, never. The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact So you have read the Art of War- this would be useful when?" In times of war being waged against you, such as now, or every day since you were born. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please " It's over when the fat lady sings | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please " I don't believe it will ever be over as such. I think we will learn to live our lives around it, decide the risks attached to doing a certain thing or going to a place. My opinion is that not enough people will take up the offer of the vaccination for it ever to be truly over. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor." The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please I don't believe it will ever be over as such. I think we will learn to live our lives around it, decide the risks attached to doing a certain thing or going to a place. My opinion is that not enough people will take up the offer of the vaccination for it ever to be truly over." | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following." Most of these posts seem to be based upon returning to the past. It's about adapting to change, which becomes clear very few are happy about let alone able or want to and so becomes forced upon them. Some then struggle more than others in relation to acceptance. No better examples of this in recent years with both Brexit and the Pandemic. Change is inevitable, we were made for change. It's all in how we grasp it. | |||
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" Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor." ^^ This | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. Most of these posts seem to be based upon returning to the past. It's about adapting to change, which becomes clear very few are happy about let alone able or want to and so becomes forced upon them. Some then struggle more than others in relation to acceptance. No better examples of this in recent years with both Brexit and the Pandemic. Change is inevitable, we were made for change. It's all in how we grasp it. " I agree. Tough pill to swallow for some though. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following." You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ?" I meant I have stopped following the news, not following the guidence | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? I meant I have stopped following the news, not following the guidence " .. which is delivered to you via the news media. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. Most of these posts seem to be based upon returning to the past. It's about adapting to change, which becomes clear very few are happy about let alone able or want to and so becomes forced upon them. Some then struggle more than others in relation to acceptance. No better examples of this in recent years with both Brexit and the Pandemic. Change is inevitable, we were made for change. It's all in how we grasp it. " Perhaps its a matter of what you deem to be acceptable. | |||
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"You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ?" It's not exactly rocket science is it? You mix & mingle the virus spreads, the more people mixing & mingling the more it spreads. You socially distance, self isolate the less it's able to spread, the more people socially distancing, self isolating the less it can spread. Thereby running out of hosts to infect eventually. Dunno why some people have difficulty grasping this logic sometimes? | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please " When I sing | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? I meant I have stopped following the news, not following the guidence .. which is delivered to you via the news media." I'm not quite understanding your point here.....someone who no longer has an avid interest in following the pandemic in the way they once did, can still have enough knowledge to know how to behave safely and follow the rules. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? I meant I have stopped following the news, not following the guidence .. which is delivered to you via the news media." Why not add something constructive instead of constantly (green arrow) looking to pic fault. You're obviously rule orientated instead of about principles. Too many see a rule is something of a challenge to get around. A principle however doesn't need rules. So the principle of social distancing, mask wearing and protecting yourself and others shouldn't need to have news up date reminders about changes and confusions to be maintained. The reason why we have the tiers is because of fuckwitts not adhering to principles but rather knowing all the rules and their small changes in order to get around them and spread the virus. Hope that helps understand why they don't need to keep looking at the news. | |||
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"You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? It's not exactly rocket science is it? You mix & mingle the virus spreads, the more people mixing & mingling the more it spreads. You socially distance, self isolate the less it's able to spread, the more people socially distancing, self isolating the less it can spread. Thereby running out of hosts to infect eventually. Dunno why some people have difficulty grasping this logic sometimes?" How about the 4 week lock down, "second wave", that ended after 4 weeks only to be rebranded so restrictions continued in the same manner but under a different name, and that rebranding being set to last for a reported 3-4 months ? Youre right, the logic really gets away from many folk.... | |||
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"You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? It's not exactly rocket science is it? You mix & mingle the virus spreads, the more people mixing & mingling the more it spreads. You socially distance, self isolate the less it's able to spread, the more people socially distancing, self isolating the less it can spread. Thereby running out of hosts to infect eventually. Dunno why some people have difficulty grasping this logic sometimes? How about the 4 week lock down, "second wave", that ended after 4 weeks only to be rebranded so restrictions continued in the same manner but under a different name, and that rebranding being set to last for a reported 3-4 months ? Youre right, the logic really gets away from many folk...." Ok, a simple explanation that hopefully shows you the working method of viral spread/containment: You have a virus and meet up with 10 of your mates, 3 of those catch it and meet up with 10 of their mates each, each giving it to 3 more of each group of 10... That's 13 carrying now. Alternatively, you've got a virus so you decide to self isolate...none of your mates catch it... Simples | |||
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"You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? It's not exactly rocket science is it? You mix & mingle the virus spreads, the more people mixing & mingling the more it spreads. You socially distance, self isolate the less it's able to spread, the more people socially distancing, self isolating the less it can spread. Thereby running out of hosts to infect eventually. Dunno why some people have difficulty grasping this logic sometimes? How about the 4 week lock down, "second wave", that ended after 4 weeks only to be rebranded so restrictions continued in the same manner but under a different name, and that rebranding being set to last for a reported 3-4 months ? Youre right, the logic really gets away from many folk...." Call it whatever you like but if people don't behave, respect and adhere to the restrict their contact with others by minimising their contact with others, adhering to social distancing and isolating when they should then you can put in all the tiers you like and they won't do what they're intended to do. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ?" I don't think it was a promise. Just sound advice | |||
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"Tempted to say "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Though, isn't it 'over between 22nd. Dec. Through to 27th. Dec? Who knew Covid goes on holiday? " ******************************** The "Germans bombed Pearl Harbour"...??? I thought it was Imperial Japan........ Eva X | |||
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" Call it whatever you like but if people don't behave, respect and adhere to the restrict their contact with others by minimising their contact with others, adhering to social distancing and isolating when they should then you can put in all the tiers you like and they won't do what they're intended to do." ^ this. What I said upthread, it's not going to be over. Not only do we have people who are ignoring the guidelines, we also have a government allowing a free for all at Christmas. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor." | |||
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"Tempted to say "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Though, isn't it 'over between 22nd. Dec. Through to 27th. Dec? Who knew Covid goes on holiday? " Good point | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? I meant I have stopped following the news, not following the guidence .. which is delivered to you via the news media. Why not add something constructive instead of constantly (green arrow) looking to pic fault. You're obviously rule orientated instead of about principles. Too many see a rule is something of a challenge to get around. A principle however doesn't need rules. So the principle of social distancing, mask wearing and protecting yourself and others shouldn't need to have news up date reminders about changes and confusions to be maintained. The reason why we have the tiers is because of fuckwitts not adhering to principles but rather knowing all the rules and their small changes in order to get around them and spread the virus. Hope that helps understand why they don't need to keep looking at the news. " . So when you meet these presumably unknown people you describe as fuckwits do you call them that to their face ? Or is it just some grandstanding gesture from the safety of your keyboard bigging yourself up ? Just wondered !!!! | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? I meant I have stopped following the news, not following the guidence .. which is delivered to you via the news media. I'm not quite understanding your point here.....someone who no longer has an avid interest in following the pandemic in the way they once did, can still have enough knowledge to know how to behave safely and follow the rules." Well said | |||
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"If anyone thinks they'll be granted their freedom back in the future by temporary compliance in the present then you are sadly mistaken. Make a note of the time and date of this post and in 10 years when nothing has been returned to you pormised, try not to feel hard done by as if no one tried to warn you in advance." Will the virus be completely wiped out - I don't believe it will Will we be in restrictions for the next 10 years - No As time goes by, with ever improving vaccines and gradual herd immunity, it will be another kind of flu that comes and goes, something people will cope with along with seasonal flu. | |||
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"If anyone thinks they'll be granted their freedom back in the future by temporary compliance in the present then you are sadly mistaken. Make a note of the time and date of this post and in 10 years when nothing has been returned to you pormised, try not to feel hard done by as if no one tried to warn you in advance." In ten years? Omg....that's only 5 more bi-annual vaccine roll outs! So we have to wait until covid 29 or 30 comes along until we can go back to pre-covid lifestyles? Wise up mate | |||
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"If anyone thinks they'll be granted their freedom back in the future by temporary compliance in the present then you are sadly mistaken. Make a note of the time and date of this post and in 10 years when nothing has been returned to you pormised, try not to feel hard done by as if no one tried to warn you in advance." Quite funny for a scaremongering post. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please " When I have been vaccinated my attitudes will no doubt modify and change | |||
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"Tempted to say "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Though, isn't it 'over between 22nd. Dec. Through to 27th. Dec? Who knew Covid goes on holiday? ******************************** The "Germans bombed Pearl Harbour"...??? I thought it was Imperial Japan........ Eva X " The Germans bombed Poole Harbour. | |||
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"i don't think it'll be over as it will mutate. don't trust guys in any case as 99% lie about their relationship status, and therefore they will lie about their vaccination status if it helps to get their leg over Might consider becoming a couple but it would need to be exclusive" Rest assured, the lure of a leg over with someone hosting this vaccine is no lure at all. | |||
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"Tempted to say "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Though, isn't it 'over between 22nd. Dec. Through to 27th. Dec? Who knew Covid goes on holiday? " Wait what? When did the Germans bomb pearl harbour? Maybe I shouldn't have ditched main stream media There's more chance of covid going on holiday then Germany bombing Hawaii | |||
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" You're obviously rule orientated instead of about principles. Too many see a rule is something of a challenge to get around. A principle however doesn't need rules. So the principle of social distancing, mask wearing and protecting yourself and others shouldn't need to have news up date reminders about changes and confusions to be maintained. The reason why we have the tiers is because of fuckwitts not adhering to principles but rather knowing all the rules and their small changes in order to get around them and spread the virus. Hope that helps understand why they don't need to keep looking at the news. " | |||
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"i don't think it'll be over as it will mutate. don't trust guys in any case as 99% lie about their relationship status, and therefore they will lie about their vaccination status if it helps to get their leg over Might consider becoming a couple but it would need to be exclusive" I know a few women like that as well | |||
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"i don't think it'll be over as it will mutate. don't trust guys in any case as 99% lie about their relationship status, and therefore they will lie about their vaccination status if it helps to get their leg over Might consider becoming a couple but it would need to be exclusive" . Goodness me. My crystal ball predicts a life for you behind what looks like a sofa and a locked front door. Be happy | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please If you're referring to Pandemic, then most likely the WHO. If you're talking locally, then the government, or in our case governments as we have 4 different governing regions. Then individuals will make their own assessments based upon a number of factors which may or may not be in line with yours, much like the filters on here. So basically, when your ready you look for those who are ready and hopefully something connects for you. Now when fab decides is an unknown factor. The WHO originally predicted social distancing to end by the middle of 2023. Not sure if that's changed now as I've stopped following. You were also supposed to flatten the curve by staying home for 3 weeks just to flatten the curve... remember that promise ? I meant I have stopped following the news, not following the guidence .. which is delivered to you via the news media. Why not add something constructive instead of constantly (green arrow) looking to pic fault. You're obviously rule orientated instead of about principles. Too many see a rule is something of a challenge to get around. A principle however doesn't need rules. So the principle of social distancing, mask wearing and protecting yourself and others shouldn't need to have news up date reminders about changes and confusions to be maintained. The reason why we have the tiers is because of fuckwitts not adhering to principles but rather knowing all the rules and their small changes in order to get around them and spread the virus. Hope that helps understand why they don't need to keep looking at the news. . So when you meet these presumably unknown people you describe as fuckwits do you call them that to their face ? Or is it just some grandstanding gesture from the safety of your keyboard bigging yourself up ? Just wondered !!!!" Why would I meet them? If you read my profile you'll have an inkling as to my fab activity. There's also been a good amount of block material provide in the past 9 months to rule out fuckwitts. | |||
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"And your evidence/back up for such a statement? What about people that live on their own like me? Are you suggesting that we should never expect close contact with anyone ever again, in an intimidate way? " Think there will come a time when people will decide for themselves what they do! Some allready do and it's up to them at end of day! When alls said and done tbh x | |||
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"A very interesting mix of replies. For some, they believe it’s a matter of following the rules and if everyone does that life will go back to how it was. For some, they can see this being a condition that we have to consider in our actions for the next 5-10 years, whilst just as many can see this going on forever - just like flu. So when and who says it’s over? I think that will be personal choices based on where you are in life and what you consider to be the risk. I think for many swinging is over as they will never be fully comfortable with the risks, whilst the young will continue to make hay whilst the sun shines. Just an opinion. " Agreed, it looks like swinging is over- certainly as we knew it and consequently so clubs are sadly finished. | |||
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"I see plenty of profiles statements “not meeting until the pandemic is over”. I wondering when or who calls it -“it’s over”. Opinions please " When restrictions are lifted and everything is open again. | |||
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"Tempted to say "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" Though, isn't it 'over between 22nd. Dec. Through to 27th. Dec? Who knew Covid goes on holiday? Wait what? When did the Germans bomb pearl harbour? Maybe I shouldn't have ditched main stream media There's more chance of covid going on holiday then Germany bombing Hawaii " Don’t mention the war, I mentioned it once but think I got away with it | |||
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"By looking to the external heirarchy for resolution, never. The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact" Bet you are a bundle of laughs down the pub | |||
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"A very interesting mix of replies. For some, they believe it’s a matter of following the rules and if everyone does that life will go back to how it was. For some, they can see this being a condition that we have to consider in our actions for the next 5-10 years, whilst just as many can see this going on forever - just like flu. So when and who says it’s over? I think that will be personal choices based on where you are in life and what you consider to be the risk. I think for many swinging is over as they will never be fully comfortable with the risks, whilst the young will continue to make hay whilst the sun shines. Just an opinion. " Agree 100% | |||
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"World bank say the expected closing date is 31st March 2025. Get used to it, another 5 years." What?!?! This can’t be true! | |||
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"World bank say the expected closing date is 31st March 2025. Get used to it, another 5 years. What?!?! This can’t be true! " If talking globally, it could be by the time everyone is vaccinated and a return to normality, economic pressures start to reduce | |||
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"By looking to the external heirarchy for resolution, never. The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia, but to keep the very structure of society intact Bet you are a bundle of laughs down the pub " 1984 | |||
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