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"So the current tiers are being reviewed on Wednesday. Do you think the restrictions will stay the same or may there be a slight relaxing of them?" I think my local area will go to tier 3...infection numbers are through the roof. Irony that daughter at uni... Where numbers are now way way below national average, will come back home to infections that are 15 times higher. It seems its not far from being out of control. People are choosing to spread it and infect others. | |||
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"We're in Tier 3 and tbh I hope it stays that way, any relaxation will only produce another spike. I think London should go into Tier 3, it's no coincidence while the majority of the country were put into tier 3, London went to tier 2 and are now showing rising infections."  | |||
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"So the current tiers are being reviewed on Wednesday. Do you think the restrictions will stay the same or may there be a slight relaxing of them? I think my local area will go to tier 3...infection numbers are through the roof. Irony that daughter at uni... Where numbers are now way way below national average, will come back home to infections that are 15 times higher. It seems its not far from being out of control. People are choosing to spread it and infect others. " | |||
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"After the tiers are announced when do changes activate? I know it's not immediate, as they give businesses time to plan if they have to close. It is likely where my son works will be closing. He will have to be taking time off unpaid once again if so "I feel his pain, I have just checked my last payslip. This financial year I have earned £1400 Gross. | |||
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"After the tiers are announced when do changes activate? I know it's not immediate, as they give businesses time to plan if they have to close. It is likely where my son works will be closing. He will have to be taking time off unpaid once again if so "I'm sure I read the new rules start Saturday the 19th so its only a couple of days notice I do feel for your son,so many people in that situation and have to struggle through this,with little or no support | |||
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"It'll be interesting to see if they leave Manchester in tier 3 and don't put London in Tier 3." Just announced London to go into tier 3 | |||
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"Evening Standard: ‘Possible’ that London Tier 3 announcement could be made today, Mayor Sadiq Khan says. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-tier-3-announcement-today-possible-sadiq-khan-b304140.html " I'd forgotten about mayor Khan... Glad to see him doing something. | |||
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"It'll be interesting to see if they leave Manchester in tier 3 and don't put London in Tier 3. Just announced London to go into tier 3" No decision has yet been made . | |||
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"I think Merseyside will stay in Tier 2" Better fucking had cos our rates are same but a tiny bit lower!!! Xx | |||
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"Why the Government? didn't just say "stay at home for Christmas, we have a vaccine, let's ride this out' It's not as though kids won't get a Christmas.As we all realise, watch the infection rates sky rocket" On BBC news now talking about a review of the Christmas relaxation...I think some people will still do what they want. | |||
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"Why the Government? didn't just say "stay at home for Christmas, we have a vaccine, let's ride this out' It's not as though kids won't get a Christmas.As we all realise, watch the infection rates sky rocket On BBC news now talking about a review of the Christmas relaxation...I think some people will still do what they want." My teenagers could have predicted this... The greatest minds in the country couldn't? I know we are in a corner and damned of you do and damned if you don't in many cases... But Jesus would have understood if we just had a quiet humble modest Xmas and reflected on what we can do better surely? | |||
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"Why the Government? didn't just say "stay at home for Christmas, we have a vaccine, let's ride this out' It's not as though kids won't get a Christmas.As we all realise, watch the infection rates sky rocket On BBC news now talking about a review of the Christmas relaxation...I think some people will still do what they want." Havent they been saying for ages ages a relaxation will be disastrous? | |||
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"Why the Government? didn't just say "stay at home for Christmas, we have a vaccine, let's ride this out' It's not as though kids won't get a Christmas.As we all realise, watch the infection rates sky rocket On BBC news now talking about a review of the Christmas relaxation...I think some people will still do what they want. My teenagers could have predicted this... The greatest minds in the country couldn't? I know we are in a corner and damned of you do and damned if you don't in many cases... But Jesus would have understood if we just had a quiet humble modest Xmas and reflected on what we can do better surely? " Yes I agree I don't personally agree with the relaxation at Christmas we will be at home, rather than have our normal big Christmas, all our family are doing the same.  | |||
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"Why the Government? didn't just say "stay at home for Christmas, we have a vaccine, let's ride this out' It's not as though kids won't get a Christmas.As we all realise, watch the infection rates sky rocket On BBC news now talking about a review of the Christmas relaxation...I think some people will still do what they want. Havent they been saying for ages ages a relaxation will be disastrous?" 
It should never have been agreed, it will be disastrous in January...another lockdown looming... | |||
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"Why the Government? didn't just say "stay at home for Christmas, we have a vaccine, let's ride this out' It's not as though kids won't get a Christmas.As we all realise, watch the infection rates sky rocket On BBC news now talking about a review of the Christmas relaxation...I think some people will still do what they want. My teenagers could have predicted this... The greatest minds in the country couldn't? I know we are in a corner and damned of you do and damned if you don't in many cases... But Jesus would have understood if we just had a quiet humble modest Xmas and reflected on what we can do better surely? Yes I agree I don't personally agree with the relaxation at Christmas we will be at home, rather than have our normal big Christmas, all our family are doing the same. "Well it hasn't been made compulsory to spread to many so... Permission granted! I'm doing the same. Just the 2 of us. As Bill withers once opined. | |||
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"I suppose those communities that have managed to keep their levels low, those communities that have worked hard to bring their levels right down will feel slightly peeved if they get their plans ruined because of other parts of the country. I thought that was the whole point of the tiers system." Yes I would have thought that too | |||
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"Why the Government? didn't just say "stay at home for Christmas, we have a vaccine, let's ride this out' It's not as though kids won't get a Christmas.As we all realise, watch the infection rates sky rocket On BBC news now talking about a review of the Christmas relaxation...I think some people will still do what they want. My teenagers could have predicted this... The greatest minds in the country couldn't? I know we are in a corner and damned of you do and damned if you don't in many cases... But Jesus would have understood if we just had a quiet humble modest Xmas and reflected on what we can do better surely? Yes I agree I don't personally agree with the relaxation at Christmas we will be at home, rather than have our normal big Christmas, all our family are doing the same.
Well it hasn't been made compulsory to spread to many so... Permission granted! I'm doing the same. Just the 2 of us. As Bill withers once opined. "  | |||
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"I suppose those communities that have managed to keep their levels low, those communities that have worked hard to bring their levels right down will feel slightly peeved if they get their plans ruined because of other parts of the country. I thought that was the whole point of the tiers system." It was, but some folks wanted a national lockdown because local lockdowns dont work...they said. | |||
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"The government are holding talks in the next half hour, with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland..." Yep, I'd bet that they put it off for a month then do another u-turn! | |||
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"I suppose those communities that have managed to keep their levels low, those communities that have worked hard to bring their levels right down will feel slightly peeved if they get their plans ruined because of other parts of the country. I thought that was the whole point of the tiers system. It was, but some folks wanted a national lockdown because local lockdowns dont work...they said." I think Labour were asking for a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. Wales did have a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. What a roaring success that was. | |||
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"I suppose those communities that have managed to keep their levels low, those communities that have worked hard to bring their levels right down will feel slightly peeved if they get their plans ruined because of other parts of the country. I thought that was the whole point of the tiers system. It was, but some folks wanted a national lockdown because local lockdowns dont work...they said. I think Labour were asking for a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. Wales did have a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. What a roaring success that was." Yeah | |||
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"The only relaxation for the Christmas period is travel and number in a household bubbles. All tier rules stay the same otherwise. So it's not a "no restrictions for Christmas" situation. A lot of the media coverage on this is political, not science based." Three households can be a lot of people. We have 2 sons, they have 4 children each, some at work, some at school, one at uni. We haven't been seeing them and won't at Christmas, even though we're allowed to, it doesn't make any sense. | |||
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"The only relaxation for the Christmas period is travel and number in a household bubbles. All tier rules stay the same otherwise. So it's not a "no restrictions for Christmas" situation. A lot of the media coverage on this is political, not science based." Finally some sense. The amount of people I've heard say there's no restrictions etc etc and then when you piss on their flame they turn and say well I'm not changing my plans. My response...You'll have to change your plans in a couple of weeks tho won't ya ?... You'll have funerals to attend. | |||
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"I suppose those communities that have managed to keep their levels low, those communities that have worked hard to bring their levels right down will feel slightly peeved if they get their plans ruined because of other parts of the country. I thought that was the whole point of the tiers system. It was, but some folks wanted a national lockdown because local lockdowns dont work...they said. I think Labour were asking for a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. Wales did have a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. What a roaring success that was. Yeah "Well.. As has been said once before (or perhaps twice) it doesn't matter what rules you put in place.... We are the ones who are spreading it... We are making our choices to spread it. We are adults after all with brains. So make whatever rules they like but people have to follow them. And very obviously people didn't follow the rules in Wales lockdown... And in most places in England too. | |||
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"I suppose those communities that have managed to keep their levels low, those communities that have worked hard to bring their levels right down will feel slightly peeved if they get their plans ruined because of other parts of the country. I thought that was the whole point of the tiers system. It was, but some folks wanted a national lockdown because local lockdowns dont work...they said. I think Labour were asking for a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. Wales did have a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. What a roaring success that was. Yeah
Well.. As has been said once before (or perhaps twice) it doesn't matter what rules you put in place.... We are the ones who are spreading it... We are making our choices to spread it. We are adults after all with brains.
So make whatever rules they like but people have to follow them. And very obviously people didn't follow the rules in Wales lockdown... And in most places in England too. "And those people never will follow the rules..so it goes on.. | |||
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"It'll be interesting to see if they leave Manchester in tier 3 and don't put London in Tier 3." I really can't see that happening. But I think we will stay in tier 3 | |||
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"I suppose those communities that have managed to keep their levels low, those communities that have worked hard to bring their levels right down will feel slightly peeved if they get their plans ruined because of other parts of the country. I thought that was the whole point of the tiers system. It was, but some folks wanted a national lockdown because local lockdowns dont work...they said. I think Labour were asking for a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. Wales did have a 2 week circuit break as suggested by sage. What a roaring success that was. Yeah
Well.. As has been said once before (or perhaps twice) it doesn't matter what rules you put in place.... We are the ones who are spreading it... We are making our choices to spread it. We are adults after all with brains.
So make whatever rules they like but people have to follow them. And very obviously people didn't follow the rules in Wales lockdown... And in most places in England too. "And I’ll say it again as long as people are going to work, going to school, going shopping then cases of a respiratory virus will continue to rise at this time of year. The idea it’s just people not following rules is ridiculous. | |||
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"I'd be happy if someone could explain how it's safe to go shopping in packed a supermark outdoor market high st and yet it's unsafe to sit in a restaurant /pub for a meal . Even hairdresser's can stand over you for twenty mins to cut your hair . " It isn't, however it's far more dangerous to close every supermarket in the country and deprive the entire population of food. It is a balance of risk, ask yourself if not having access to food, beer or a haircut will kill you. If you answered no to any of them, then they are not essential. | |||
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"I'd be happy if someone could explain how it's safe to go shopping in packed a supermark outdoor market high st and yet it's unsafe to sit in a restaurant /pub for a meal . Even hairdresser's can stand over you for twenty mins to cut your hair . It isn't, however it's far more dangerous to close every supermarket in the country and deprive the entire population of food. It is a balance of risk, ask yourself if not having access to food, beer or a haircut will kill you. If you answered no to any of them, then they are not essential." Also we have the personal choice of avoiding the busy times and reducing any risk to a minimum. If I see a queue I'll give it a miss for now & go back when it's quiet. Really hasn't been difficult to do. | |||
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"I'd be happy if someone could explain how it's safe to go shopping in packed a supermark outdoor market high st and yet it's unsafe to sit in a restaurant /pub for a meal . Even hairdresser's can stand over you for twenty mins to cut your hair . It isn't, however it's far more dangerous to close every supermarket in the country and deprive the entire population of food. It is a balance of risk, ask yourself if not having access to food, beer or a haircut will kill you. If you answered no to any of them, then they are not essential. Also we have the personal choice of avoiding the busy times and reducing any risk to a minimum. If I see a queue I'll give it a miss for now & go back when it's quiet. Really hasn't been difficult to do." I agree and you're not close to any one person for any length of time, as you would be in a restaurant or at your hairdressers. | |||
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"I'd be happy if someone could explain how it's safe to go shopping in packed a supermark outdoor market high st and yet it's unsafe to sit in a restaurant /pub for a meal . Even hairdresser's can stand over you for twenty mins to cut your hair . " I don't think anybody has ever said it's safe or safer in a supermarket than anywhere else. Yes there are massive inconsistencies with the rules. It's important to always bare in mind the overriding principles that it's reducing the risk of spreading infection. So it's a out taking small percentages of risk away where ever possible. Hence masks as one example. | |||
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