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"Wish I still lived in UAE. They’ve been getting COVID vaccinations since September in Dubai" Doubtful | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. " Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? " Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. " Sounds like the land of milk and honey, well for the rich anyway. | |||
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"Wish I still lived in UAE. They’ve been getting COVID vaccinations since September in Dubai" Great, don’t have any extramarital sex though otherwise you might to imprisoned, flogged or stoned! Considering that there TV was reporting on the 91 yr old in Coventry being the first to be vaccinated in the world it seems unlikely that they have been getting COVID vaccinations since September! | |||
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"Wish I still lived in UAE. They’ve been getting COVID vaccinations since September in Dubai" Yes - that land of democracy and freedoms | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. Sounds like the land of milk and honey, well for the rich anyway. " Built upon an acceptable form of modern day slavery looking good on the surface. Labour shipped in from mainly south /south East Asia, living in bunk house accomodation, provided universal work overalls, bused in from accomodation camps outside the city to all the work sites and work 6-7 days a week with no integration into society | |||
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"Wish I still lived in UAE. They’ve been getting COVID vaccinations since September in Dubai" Some people do talk nonsense! | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. strange because im almost positive on testing for travel threads people have been stressed out their head to get pcr tests within 48 hours of the time they board their flight to some of the uae countries or they would be refused boarding " Yes the PCR tests this side are hit and miss to get hold of but that’s nothing to do with the Emirates. Airport side and in the Emirates the testing is easier to access. | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. Sounds like the land of milk and honey, well for the rich anyway. Built upon an acceptable form of modern day slavery looking good on the surface. Labour shipped in from mainly south /south East Asia, living in bunk house accomodation, provided universal work overalls, bused in from accomodation camps outside the city to all the work sites and work 6-7 days a week with no integration into society" Yeah that’s never mentioned sadly. I was in Qatar last November and the World Cup infrastructure is built on human misery. | |||
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"Wish I still lived in UAE. They’ve been getting COVID vaccinations since September in Dubai" The kafala system, which has been described as modern-day slavery, leaves migrant laborers vulnerable to human trafficking and forced labor practices, and has resulted in gross human rights abuses.18 The system is described as a form of ‘structural violence’ by which employers confiscate passports and report “absconding” workers to authorities to avoid punishment themselves. To secure an employment contract they have to pay £4000 which takes between 18-24 months to recuperate. On arrival their passports are taken from them, for security reasons. Nearly 90% of the foreign work force is made up of this group. The remaining 10% is made up of western white collar workers (2%) and other semi professionals. Their health care does not extend to the 90%. Sadly most of the 2% of white collar workers know nothing about the conditions of the 90% as they are cocooned and shielded. It's a great place indeed. | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. Sounds like the land of milk and honey, well for the rich anyway. Built upon an acceptable form of modern day slavery looking good on the surface. Labour shipped in from mainly south /south East Asia, living in bunk house accomodation, provided universal work overalls, bused in from accomodation camps outside the city to all the work sites and work 6-7 days a week with no integration into society Yeah that’s never mentioned sadly. I was in Qatar last November and the World Cup infrastructure is built on human misery. " It's an issue close to my heart and something I have been engaged in for over 15 years. Human trafficking and modern day slavery is is the world's second largest criminal activity ahead of arms and only just behind drugs. Unless people stop ignoring/accepting it or worse become complacently part of the problem it will soon over take drugs, as unlike drugs, it's a resusable commodity. Sorry for the rant but sometimes a bit of education and information is needed. Drops the Mike. | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. Sounds like the land of milk and honey, well for the rich anyway. Built upon an acceptable form of modern day slavery looking good on the surface. Labour shipped in from mainly south /south East Asia, living in bunk house accomodation, provided universal work overalls, bused in from accomodation camps outside the city to all the work sites and work 6-7 days a week with no integration into society Yeah that’s never mentioned sadly. I was in Qatar last November and the World Cup infrastructure is built on human misery. It's an issue close to my heart and something I have been engaged in for over 15 years. Human trafficking and modern day slavery is is the world's second largest criminal activity ahead of arms and only just behind drugs. Unless people stop ignoring/accepting it or worse become complacently part of the problem it will soon over take drugs, as unlike drugs, it's a resusable commodity. Sorry for the rant but sometimes a bit of education and information is needed. Drops the Mike." No need to be sorry geezer. Seen some horrendous things on my travels. But money talks in these places and it’s swept under the carpet. | |||
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"The OP is correct though in saying they had started vaccination program in July. " It began in July and the vaccine was given emergency authorisation for use by UAE front-line workers in September." BBC It was kept quiet as it was only authorised by the use government and not by any recognised medical boards. I'm not sure I would have wanted it given under those conditions. It raises the question as to how great their health care really is if it allows such proceedures to be implemented like that without due proper regulation. And secondly it would seem this amazing health care system was being used as guinea pigs, no doubt for the nationals." UAE government not use* | |||
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"They only registered their vaccine a couple of days ago so what have they been dishing out?" The Chinese one. | |||
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" strange because im almost positive on testing for travel threads people have been stressed out their head to get pcr tests within 48 hours of the time they board their flight to some of the uae countries or they would be refused boarding " Yeah but that's because airline and entry requirements for foreigners are very different to what is available for the wealthy nationals and not available to the majority of people resident. | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. Sounds like the land of milk and honey, well for the rich anyway. Built upon an acceptable form of modern day slavery looking good on the surface. Labour shipped in from mainly south /south East Asia, living in bunk house accomodation, provided universal work overalls, bused in from accomodation camps outside the city to all the work sites and work 6-7 days a week with no integration into society Yeah that’s never mentioned sadly. I was in Qatar last November and the World Cup infrastructure is built on human misery. It's an issue close to my heart and something I have been engaged in for over 15 years. Human trafficking and modern day slavery is is the world's second largest criminal activity ahead of arms and only just behind drugs. Unless people stop ignoring/accepting it or worse become complacently part of the problem it will soon over take drugs, as unlike drugs, it's a resusable commodity. Sorry for the rant but sometimes a bit of education and information is needed. Drops the Mike." Interesting, I wonder how much main stream media coverage we've seen about this in the last year? The world Cup sponsors and products fabricated at slave labour rates. As you say... Knowledge and education may help people come to better decisions of what they choose to invest, buy, wear, travel, support.... I'm surprised that there is not more of a market for ethically sourced products and services. | |||
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"I think its a dry country so only bars in hotels" Sure, I guess my point is, if you have people who do as they need to do reduce the spread. If you take alcohol and bar culture largely out of the equation, if you enforce things strongly... You can have success in managing the virus. If like us you have next to zero enforcement, a large minority of the population disregarding what needs to be done to slow or even stop the spread... A bar and alcohol culture that encourages lack of responsibility...you get, rather predictably, a different outcome. We have the power to stop the spread. | |||
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"What I read on Saturday re Dubai was as follows . Visitors, need, to have, proof of a negative test result taken 96 hours before departure or alternatively you can take a PCR test on arrival. If your test result turns out positive you will have to self isolate in a government controlled facility for 14 days All travellers, have to ensure their travel insurance covers th for covid " I'd guarantee than anyone traveling there with the idea to take the PCR test will have to self isolate. This is because the PCR 'test' was never used to prove but to confirm the presence of something already known or suspected to be or had been present. What the PCR 'test' does is amplify thousands and millions of times any DNA evidence, this will include any dead old remaining cell tissue and will turn a so called positive result, which in a case of dead cell tissue is actually a negative. It just confirms that the is some residual cell tissue and the patient may have had covid at some time in the past. You can Google this easily enough and listen to numerous virologists explaining this better than myself and as to why the infection numbers aren't accurate as a result of using PCR tests. So if you want to fly and not be quarantined, get a test just before flying and not a PCR one. | |||
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"I think its a dry country so only bars in hotels Sure, I guess my point is, if you have people who do as they need to do reduce the spread. If you take alcohol and bar culture largely out of the equation, if you enforce things strongly... You can have success in managing the virus. If like us you have next to zero enforcement, a large minority of the population disregarding what needs to be done to slow or even stop the spread... A bar and alcohol culture that encourages lack of responsibility...you get, rather predictably, a different outcome. We have the power to stop the spread. " Spot on. | |||
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"What I read on Saturday re Dubai was as follows . Visitors, need, to have, proof of a negative test result taken 96 hours before departure or alternatively you can take a PCR test on arrival. If your test result turns out positive you will have to self isolate in a government controlled facility for 14 days All travellers, have to ensure their travel insurance covers th for covid " A bit of a kick in the balls if your going for a 2 week holliday | |||
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"Wish I still lived in UAE. They’ve been getting COVID vaccinations since September in Dubai" Sounds like a mass trial | |||
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"They have managed very strict restrictions on the start of the pandemic keeping police drones flying over areas where they needed restrictions. Stoping amy body getting out with out a good reason hence why they got the top facility at airport with electronic machines checking for covid symptoms body scanners. Its just incredible the devices they got installed, i suprised to see on youtube, hence why it did not spread their, cause they managed it well nd kept it in control." Yes of course - all amazing which is why Dubai has a higher infection rate than the UK currently! 1196 infections yesterday and rising . That's equivalent to 24000 daily here so not great figures from Dubai! | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. strange because im almost positive on testing for travel threads people have been stressed out their head to get pcr tests within 48 hours of the time they board their flight to some of the uae countries or they would be refused boarding Yes the PCR tests this side are hit and miss to get hold of but that’s nothing to do with the Emirates. Airport side and in the Emirates the testing is easier to access. " my point was if you need the test to board the plane to arrive in the country why would they be providing free test on arrival , and the airline covering everyones costs if positive ... you were negative already getting on the flight | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. strange because im almost positive on testing for travel threads people have been stressed out their head to get pcr tests within 48 hours of the time they board their flight to some of the uae countries or they would be refused boarding Yes the PCR tests this side are hit and miss to get hold of but that’s nothing to do with the Emirates. Airport side and in the Emirates the testing is easier to access. my point was if you need the test to board the plane to arrive in the country why would they be providing free test on arrival , and the airline covering everyones costs if positive ... you were negative already getting on the flight " I would rather have a negative test to go out than worry about getting a test out there that’s positive and spend 14 days in a hotel isolating. | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. strange because im almost positive on testing for travel threads people have been stressed out their head to get pcr tests within 48 hours of the time they board their flight to some of the uae countries or they would be refused boarding Yes the PCR tests this side are hit and miss to get hold of but that’s nothing to do with the Emirates. Airport side and in the Emirates the testing is easier to access. my point was if you need the test to board the plane to arrive in the country why would they be providing free test on arrival , and the airline covering everyones costs if positive ... you were negative already getting on the flight " The PCR test upon arrival is to be paid for by the passenger | |||
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"Money talks. I spend a a fair amount of time in the Emirates and have been impressed how they have managed things so far. Are they socially distancing etc? Any changes to their daily lives? Masks? Gatherings? Pubs opening? Complimentary PCR tests on arrival. Costs covered if you test positive (by the airline) Hotels and venues open with social distancing. Outside of the tourist/business population the residents are more socially conservative anyway. Plus great healthcare. strange because im almost positive on testing for travel threads people have been stressed out their head to get pcr tests within 48 hours of the time they board their flight to some of the uae countries or they would be refused boarding Yes the PCR tests this side are hit and miss to get hold of but that’s nothing to do with the Emirates. Airport side and in the Emirates the testing is easier to access. my point was if you need the test to board the plane to arrive in the country why would they be providing free test on arrival , and the airline covering everyones costs if positive ... you were negative already getting on the flight The PCR test upon arrival is to be paid for by the passenger" I didn’t pay for anything when I flew in from a GCC state. | |||
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