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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Freedoms where hard one and freedom easily lost ,the type of people that are in power love control so who knows

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Freedoms where hard one and freedom easily lost ,the type of people that are in power love control so who knows "
You are right there and yes the freedom can be easily lost, depending of who have the powers too.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

Not really a freedom to potentially pass on a fatal virus is it, more like a responsibility not to and the right to not be infected by someone ..

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

This should have taught us we live in an interconnected world. Restrictions are going to be in place for some time even if there's mass UK vaccination as there'll be people who opt out. Uptake is supposed to be a 2/3rds population. We can still import cases when flights re-open, we don't know enough about vaccine immunity or dare I say it potential covid mutations.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Maybe in the future people will learn to apreciate freedom and not just expect it and abuse it.

People should begin to apreciate what we have especially in Britain and stop abusing it.

I hope they learn from this year that has changed all our loves

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By *eardsandboobsCouple
over a year ago

north of lincoln

Being told to wear a mask isn’t losing a freedom it’s saving lives. No one has lost any freedoms but people have lost their lives.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

With freedom comes responsibility.

The sooner people grow up and realise that the better.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Not really a freedom to potentially pass on a fatal virus is it, more like a responsibility not to and the right to not be infected by someone .."
That is right. I might of worded it abit wrong. I meant like you should appreciate what freedoms you had before the virus and now it is about being responsible and living with it.

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By *lym4realCouple
over a year ago

plymouth

If we as a human race should take anything from all this is that we should really really listen to the experts/scientists more and not be so easily fooled by the idiots waving cheap slogans around and offering cut price easy answers !!?? and that we are better together as we do face even more challenges in the future but hats off and congrats to all the hard work done by everyone we never think about !!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Being told to wear a mask isn’t losing a freedom it’s saving lives. No one has lost any freedoms but people have lost their lives.

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By *heStockingtoppsCouple
over a year ago

Stourbridge

..ermm, the freedom to choose is freedom, enforcing such is not actually freedom it`s enforcement, pretty much like the freedom to move and travel, remember those days ?

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"..ermm, the freedom to choose is freedom, enforcing such is not actually freedom it`s enforcement, pretty much like the freedom to move and travel, remember those days ?"

Bit like when people didn't die or get longstanding conditions from a random disease. Yeah, remember those days.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll be having it....................in 2041 on the proviso that not one person vaccinated has suffered any side effects from rollout of the vaccine to Jan 1st 2041.

The following was copy/pasted from .GOV.UK......... Can you give COVID-19 to anyone if you have had the vaccine?

The vaccine cannot give you COVID-19 infection, and a full course will reduce your chance of becoming seriously ill. We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus, but we do expect it to reduce this risk. So, it is still important to follow the guidance in your local area to protect those around you.

To protect yourself and your family, friends and colleagues you still need to:

practice social distancing

wear a face mask

wash your hands carefully and frequently

SO ..... in short, you'll all still need to do as you are now. No change. No guarantee of anything working. Again. I'll wait till 2041 thanks.

And while we're at it.....Welcome to Germany 1933

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!

Protect those at risk and spend time developing a vaccine and the years of long term testing to assess its safety then maybe offer it to those that are, as I said, at risk.

It staggers me how easy it is to scare people into doing whatever they’re told, to the point they will take a drug with no long term testing or studies without a real independent thought.

One of the main reasons I simply cannot wait to leave the UK is how utterly spineless people are here. They will do anything at all if asked to or told it’s for their own good, anything rather than ask basic relevant valid questions about as to why something appears to need to be done or legislated against for our own good.

Everyone just goes along with it just in case they are questioned or stand out a bit, god forbid.

And the point countering thalidomide was ridiculous, a perfect example of a drug hat was rushed through without any real long term studies and mutilated people from within the womb and for the rest of their lives. Pharmacy companies in complete denial, lying through their teeth for years in the hope the victims would die or just go away before they would hand out any compensation for what that’s actually worth when you have arms like Mr Potato head ffs.

This country likes to restrict and ban anything it can under the guise of lies or the public good. The most that’s ever done is people moan about it after the fact.

Crack on, take the lovely vaccine that’s just appeared out of relatively nowhere and don’t give it another thought. Be thankful you’re now “allowed” to get back to “normal” whatever that normal will be after all this complete shit show, they’re doing it for your own good and it’s all perfectly safe I’m sure.

You reap what you sow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My thoughts exactly. Well said x

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!

Protect those at risk and spend time developing a vaccine and the years of long term testing to assess its safety then maybe offer it to those that are, as I said, at risk.

It staggers me how easy it is to scare people into doing whatever they’re told, to the point they will take a drug with no long term testing or studies without a real independent thought.

One of the main reasons I simply cannot wait to leave the UK is how utterly spineless people are here. They will do anything at all if asked to or told it’s for their own good, anything rather than ask basic relevant valid questions about as to why something appears to need to be done or legislated against for our own good.

Everyone just goes along with it just in case they are questioned or stand out a bit, god forbid.

And the point countering thalidomide was ridiculous, a perfect example of a drug hat was rushed through without any real long term studies and mutilated people from within the womb and for the rest of their lives. Pharmacy companies in complete denial, lying through their teeth for years in the hope the victims would die or just go away before they would hand out any compensation for what that’s actually worth when you have arms like Mr Potato head ffs.

This country likes to restrict and ban anything it can under the guise of lies or the public good. The most that’s ever done is people moan about it after the fact.

Crack on, take the lovely vaccine that’s just appeared out of relatively nowhere and don’t give it another thought. Be thankful you’re now “allowed” to get back to “normal” whatever that normal will be after all this complete shit show, they’re doing it for your own good and it’s all perfectly safe I’m sure.

You reap what you sow."

Good job you're super smart and can see past all the fake crap on the Internet...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Not really a freedom to potentially pass on a fatal virus is it, more like a responsibility not to and the right to not be infected by someone ..That is right. I might of worded it abit wrong. I meant like you should appreciate what freedoms you had before the virus and now it is about being responsible and living with it. "

Fair point Shag, it is for some rather telling that they see taking basic precautions an 'attack on their freedom' or some sort of control..

First world piffle..

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"

One of the main reasons I simply cannot wait to leave the UK is how utterly spineless people are here. "

You can leave the UK any time your fingers stop typing. Get a flight, clear the mandatory test and up sticks.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"

One of the main reasons I simply cannot wait to leave the UK is how utterly spineless people are here.

You can leave the UK any time your fingers stop typing. Get a flight, clear the mandatory test and up sticks. "

This

The irony of calling others spineless and threatening to up sticks and off it, but probably never will..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

All in place and scheduled for 2025

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

You can leave the UK any time your fingers stop typing. Get a flight, clear the mandatory test and up sticks. "

All in place and scheduled for November 2025 Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are free , free range cattle

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By *etcplCouple
over a year ago

Gapping Fanny

I don’t understand why wearing a mask is bad and a loss of freedom, yet wearing a helmet while riding a bike, wearing a helmet on a motorbike, wearing a seatbelt in a car etc. is not seen in the same light.

Genuinely interested in people’s views as I am unable to see the difference myself.

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By *imes_berksMan
over a year ago

Bracknell


"It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!

Protect those at risk and spend time developing a vaccine and the years of long term testing to assess its safety then maybe offer it to those that are, as I said, at risk.

It staggers me how easy it is to scare people into doing whatever they’re told, to the point they will take a drug with no long term testing or studies without a real independent thought.

One of the main reasons I simply cannot wait to leave the UK is how utterly spineless people are here. They will do anything at all if asked to or told it’s for their own good, anything rather than ask basic relevant valid questions about as to why something appears to need to be done or legislated against for our own good.

Everyone just goes along with it just in case they are questioned or stand out a bit, god forbid.

And the point countering thalidomide was ridiculous, a perfect example of a drug hat was rushed through without any real long term studies and mutilated people from within the womb and for the rest of their lives. Pharmacy companies in complete denial, lying through their teeth for years in the hope the victims would die or just go away before they would hand out any compensation for what that’s actually worth when you have arms like Mr Potato head ffs.

This country likes to restrict and ban anything it can under the guise of lies or the public good. The most that’s ever done is people moan about it after the fact.

Crack on, take the lovely vaccine that’s just appeared out of relatively nowhere and don’t give it another thought. Be thankful you’re now “allowed” to get back to “normal” whatever that normal will be after all this complete shit show, they’re doing it for your own good and it’s all perfectly safe I’m sure.

You reap what you sow."

Please get the earliest flight out that you can. I hear N Korea has spaces

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley


"It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!

Protect those at risk and spend time developing a vaccine and the years of long term testing to assess its safety then maybe offer it to those that are, as I said, at risk.

It staggers me how easy it is to scare people into doing whatever they’re told, to the point they will take a drug with no long term testing or studies without a real independent thought.

One of the main reasons I simply cannot wait to leave the UK is how utterly spineless people are here. They will do anything at all if asked to or told it’s for their own good, anything rather than ask basic relevant valid questions about as to why something appears to need to be done or legislated against for our own good.

Everyone just goes along with it just in case they are questioned or stand out a bit, god forbid.

And the point countering thalidomide was ridiculous, a perfect example of a drug hat was rushed through without any real long term studies and mutilated people from within the womb and for the rest of their lives. Pharmacy companies in complete denial, lying through their teeth for years in the hope the victims would die or just go away before they would hand out any compensation for what that’s actually worth when you have arms like Mr Potato head ffs.

This country likes to restrict and ban anything it can under the guise of lies or the public good. The most that’s ever done is people moan about it after the fact.

Crack on, take the lovely vaccine that’s just appeared out of relatively nowhere and don’t give it another thought. Be thankful you’re now “allowed” to get back to “normal” whatever that normal will be after all this complete shit show, they’re doing it for your own good and it’s all perfectly safe I’m sure.

You reap what you sow.

Please get the earliest flight out that you can. I hear N Korea has spaces "

I love the way you try to make out its pro vax folk who are frightened, then tell us all about your vaccine fears! Give yer head a wobble!

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!

Protect those at risk and spend time developing a vaccine and the years of long term testing to assess its safety then maybe offer it to those that are, as I said, at risk.

It staggers me how easy it is to scare people into doing whatever they’re told, to the point they will take a drug with no long term testing or studies without a real independent thought.

One of the main reasons I simply cannot wait to leave the UK is how utterly spineless people are here. They will do anything at all if asked to or told it’s for their own good, anything rather than ask basic relevant valid questions about as to why something appears to need to be done or legislated against for our own good.

Everyone just goes along with it just in case they are questioned or stand out a bit, god forbid.

And the point countering thalidomide was ridiculous, a perfect example of a drug hat was rushed through without any real long term studies and mutilated people from within the womb and for the rest of their lives. Pharmacy companies in complete denial, lying through their teeth for years in the hope the victims would die or just go away before they would hand out any compensation for what that’s actually worth when you have arms like Mr Potato head ffs.

This country likes to restrict and ban anything it can under the guise of lies or the public good. The most that’s ever done is people moan about it after the fact.

Crack on, take the lovely vaccine that’s just appeared out of relatively nowhere and don’t give it another thought. Be thankful you’re now “allowed” to get back to “normal” whatever that normal will be after all this complete shit show, they’re doing it for your own good and it’s all perfectly safe I’m sure.

You reap what you sow."
Well said

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By *reampie_vickyTV/TS
over a year ago

Wigan


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not "

Nothing has changed..! Some bars clubs and restaurants are closed but everything else is the same as it was before, I never wore masks and just carried on as normal with work, life and seeing friends and family, with so many places closed this year I've got money to burn, this xmas so it's going to be great.

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By *ust some cock suckerMan
over a year ago

Preston


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not "

I still have my freedom

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Does anyone mind that they wear seat belts, having lost the 'freedom' to drive without 1 and avoid a legal penalty?

We've kept distance from others, associated in low numbers, worn masks in some indoors places, worked from home, restricted our movement and travel, amongst the sacrifices that were viewed as reasonable and effective to help to preserve good health and lives. I think most of us thought these acceptable.

We will need continued adjustments to our older practices for a long time yet. I don't see the big deal

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"Being told to wear a mask isn’t losing a freedom it’s saving lives. No one has lost any freedoms but people have lost their lives.

"

Having people advocating mandatory vaccinations and curtailing the freedoms of those who can't have it or choose not to is though.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"..ermm, the freedom to choose is freedom, enforcing such is not actually freedom it`s enforcement, pretty much like the freedom to move and travel, remember those days ?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not "

I think restrictions will eventually stop and we will go back to normal in the next 3-4 months

Regarding masks, maybe we will start to adopt them and will stay for way longer. And if people feel ill , they will wear them ( a bit like in Asia)

If it’s all about wearing masks, then I don’t mind at all. Even if it means wearing them for the next years

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not

I think restrictions will eventually stop and we will go back to normal in the next 3-4 months

Regarding masks, maybe we will start to adopt them and will stay for way longer. And if people feel ill , they will wear them ( a bit like in Asia)

If it’s all about wearing masks, then I don’t mind at all. Even if it means wearing them for the next years "
Considering 50 per cent of masks end up under the wearers chins bet they harbour more Germs and actually cause more ill health

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not

I think restrictions will eventually stop and we will go back to normal in the next 3-4 months

Regarding masks, maybe we will start to adopt them and will stay for way longer. And if people feel ill , they will wear them ( a bit like in Asia)

If it’s all about wearing masks, then I don’t mind at all. Even if it means wearing them for the next years Considering 50 per cent of masks end up under the wearers chins bet they harbour more Germs and actually cause more ill health "

Masks cause more ill heath? This has been debunked! Even the "anti-maskers" don't use that argument any more. It's old fake news to frighten people.

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not

I think restrictions will eventually stop and we will go back to normal in the next 3-4 months

Regarding masks, maybe we will start to adopt them and will stay for way longer. And if people feel ill , they will wear them ( a bit like in Asia)

If it’s all about wearing masks, then I don’t mind at all. Even if it means wearing them for the next years Considering 50 per cent of masks end up under the wearers chins bet they harbour more Germs and actually cause more ill health

Masks cause more ill heath? This has been debunked! Even the "anti-maskers" don't use that argument any more. It's old fake news to frighten people. "
So wearing a mask on your chin like so many do then putting it back on again like so many do causes absolutely no germs ??? Where is your proof ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not

I think restrictions will eventually stop and we will go back to normal in the next 3-4 months

Regarding masks, maybe we will start to adopt them and will stay for way longer. And if people feel ill , they will wear them ( a bit like in Asia)

If it’s all about wearing masks, then I don’t mind at all. Even if it means wearing them for the next years Considering 50 per cent of masks end up under the wearers chins bet they harbour more Germs and actually cause more ill health

Masks cause more ill heath? This has been debunked! Even the "anti-maskers" don't use that argument any more. It's old fake news to frighten people. So wearing a mask on your chin like so many do then putting it back on again like so many do causes absolutely no germs ??? Where is your proof ??"

To be effective masks need to be changed; every 2 hours, when then get wet, or if touched (once on).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

And while we're at it.....Welcome to Germany 1933"

I'm not historian, but I'm pretty sure Germany 1933 didn't suffer COVID 19. So basically, just another post designed to inflame and incite an angry response... (Shakes head)

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not

I think restrictions will eventually stop and we will go back to normal in the next 3-4 months

Regarding masks, maybe we will start to adopt them and will stay for way longer. And if people feel ill , they will wear them ( a bit like in Asia)

If it’s all about wearing masks, then I don’t mind at all. Even if it means wearing them for the next years Considering 50 per cent of masks end up under the wearers chins bet they harbour more Germs and actually cause more ill health

Masks cause more ill heath? This has been debunked! Even the "anti-maskers" don't use that argument any more. It's old fake news to frighten people. So wearing a mask on your chin like so many do then putting it back on again like so many do causes absolutely no germs ??? Where is your proof ??"

Well how many people have been admitted to hospital, due to wearing a mask? I've never heard of one, have you?

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"

To be effective masks need to be changed; every 2 hours, when then get wet, or if touched (once on).

"

This just isn't true. The whole point of the mask is to reduce the distance that your exhaled breath can travel. The cleanliness and moisture content of the mask will not effect this... (for a simple experiment, put a mask on and try spitting at people) any face covering will achieve this, although som are better than others. A dirty or wet face covering will probably be MORE restrictive to the flow of air through it.

Yes there is a potential issue with touching the mask and transferring viral material from the mask to surfaces, but this is why we are instructed to sanitise our hands before and after touching foreign objects.

Cal

Cal

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not "

I sincerely believe that EVERYTHING will go back to exactly as it was before. It's just a matter of how long it takes.

Cal

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"With all these restrictions and lockdowns with more to come, you almost forget the freedom you had, do you think it will return to normal as we know it? I think that we can expect to have the masks on for at least 10 more years if not for longer, lets hope not

I think restrictions will eventually stop and we will go back to normal in the next 3-4 months

Regarding masks, maybe we will start to adopt them and will stay for way longer. And if people feel ill , they will wear them ( a bit like in Asia)

If it’s all about wearing masks, then I don’t mind at all. Even if it means wearing them for the next years Considering 50 per cent of masks end up under the wearers chins bet they harbour more Germs and actually cause more ill health

Masks cause more ill heath? This has been debunked! Even the "anti-maskers" don't use that argument any more. It's old fake news to frighten people. So wearing a mask on your chin like so many do then putting it back on again like so many do causes absolutely no germs ??? Where is your proof ??

To be effective masks need to be changed; every 2 hours, when then get wet, or if touched (once on).

"

Oh, and not disposed of on the ground either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll be having it....................in 2041 on the proviso that not one person vaccinated has suffered any side effects from rollout of the vaccine to Jan 1st 2041.

The following was copy/pasted from .GOV.UK......... Can you give COVID-19 to anyone if you have had the vaccine?

The vaccine cannot give you COVID-19 infection, and a full course will reduce your chance of becoming seriously ill. We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus, but we do expect it to reduce this risk. So, it is still important to follow the guidance in your local area to protect those around you.

To protect yourself and your family, friends and colleagues you still need to:

practice social distancing

wear a face mask

wash your hands carefully and frequently

SO ..... in short, you'll all still need to do as you are now. No change. No guarantee of anything working. Again. I'll wait till 2041 thanks.

And while we're at it.....Welcome to Germany 1933"

If this was 1933, you wouldn't be allowed to add this post to the forum. As it goes against the what the powers that be put in place.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'll be having it....................in 2041 on the proviso that not one person vaccinated has suffered any side effects from rollout of the vaccine to Jan 1st 2041.

The following was copy/pasted from .GOV.UK......... Can you give COVID-19 to anyone if you have had the vaccine?

The vaccine cannot give you COVID-19 infection, and a full course will reduce your chance of becoming seriously ill. We do not yet know whether it will stop you from catching and passing on the virus, but we do expect it to reduce this risk. So, it is still important to follow the guidance in your local area to protect those around you.

To protect yourself and your family, friends and colleagues you still need to:

practice social distancing

wear a face mask

wash your hands carefully and frequently

SO ..... in short, you'll all still need to do as you are now. No change. No guarantee of anything working. Again. I'll wait till 2041 thanks.

And while we're at it.....Welcome to Germany 1933"

And yet many, many people on here are still meeting.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford

What is freedom? There is no absolute freedom, when a person behaves as if they have total freedom, when they behave with no regard for anyone else's rights or freedoms, society and state rightly intervene. We live in as free a state as anywhere in the world. Anyone in our society complaining about their impinged freedoms needs to stop chewing on their crayons and grow the f up

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By *hickennchipsWoman
over a year ago

up above the streets and houses

This virus has really brought out the worst in people

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Warwick


"It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!."

Around 67M people worldwide have caught coronavirus and 1.5M have died, so where does the 99.8% survival rate come from?

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!.

Around 67M people worldwide have caught coronavirus and 1.5M have died, so where does the 99.8% survival rate come from?"

Where did you get those figures from?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!

Protect those at risk and spend time developing a vaccine and the years of long term testing to assess its safety then maybe offer it to those that are, as I said, at risk.

It staggers me how easy it is to scare people into doing whatever they’re told, to the point they will take a drug with no long term testing or studies without a real independent thought.

One of the main reasons I simply cannot wait to leave the UK is how utterly spineless people are here. They will do anything at all if asked to or told it’s for their own good, anything rather than ask basic relevant valid questions about as to why something appears to need to be done or legislated against for our own good.

Everyone just goes along with it just in case they are questioned or stand out a bit, god forbid.

And the point countering thalidomide was ridiculous, a perfect example of a drug hat was rushed through without any real long term studies and mutilated people from within the womb and for the rest of their lives. Pharmacy companies in complete denial, lying through their teeth for years in the hope the victims would die or just go away before they would hand out any compensation for what that’s actually worth when you have arms like Mr Potato head ffs.

This country likes to restrict and ban anything it can under the guise of lies or the public good. The most that’s ever done is people moan about it after the fact.

Crack on, take the lovely vaccine that’s just appeared out of relatively nowhere and don’t give it another thought. Be thankful you’re now “allowed” to get back to “normal” whatever that normal will be after all this complete shit show, they’re doing it for your own good and it’s all perfectly safe I’m sure.

You reap what you sow."

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Warwick


"It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!.

Around 67M people worldwide have caught coronavirus and 1.5M have died, so where does the 99.8% survival rate come from?

Where did you get those figures from? "

They are available on a number of sites , just google coronavirus deaths worldwide, BBC, Wikipedia, WHO and plenty of others give you much the same results - so in fact it’s about a 97% survival rate not to mention the 5% or so that are left with long term health effects.

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By *oan of DArcCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


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One of the main reasons I simply cannot wait to leave the UK is how utterly spineless people are here. "

Can I ask where you're likely to move to where people aren't 'spineless' and are insulated from the consequences of covid infection?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It’s a coronavirus with a 99.8% survival rate ffs!.

Around 67M people worldwide have caught coronavirus and 1.5M have died, so where does the 99.8% survival rate come from?

Where did you get those figures from?

They are available on a number of sites , just google coronavirus deaths worldwide, BBC, Wikipedia, WHO and plenty of others give you much the same results - so in fact it’s about a 97% survival rate not to mention the 5% or so that are left with long term health effects."

You’re only going off the case fatality rate. The more accurate is the infection fatality rate which is a lot harder to estimate due to the number of the population infected isn’t known.

John Ioannidis of Stanford University has produced perhaps the most comprehensive attempt to estimate the IFR for Covid-19 to date. In a peer-reviewed study published in the Bulletin of the World Health Organisation he looked at 61 studies from around the world that have tried to measure the true prevalence of Covid-19 through serological studies. He then looked at the number of recorded Covid-19 deaths in the area to which they referred and used it to compute the local IFR.

It produced estimates for IFR which ranged between 0 and 1.63 per cent, with a median figure of 0.27 per cent. A person under the age of 70 had a IFR of approximately 0.7 per cent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That should be a person under the age of 70 had an IFR of approximately 0.5 per cent.

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