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"Everyone should receive a covid card when vaccinated. Its filled in by the nhs. It'll just fit snugly in your wallet. Thoughts? " It’s just a reminder as to when you will be receiving the second dose of the vaccine. Pretty standard already within the NHS in order to reduce the expense of missed appointments.  | |||
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"What for?" To show you've been vaccinated. Just announced on sky news. Picture on there too. Government says its not a covid passport tho. I think it's a good idea.  | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs" It's going to be months before some people get vaccinated, what do they do until then? | |||
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"It’s a non story. It’s just used to remind people when their second dose will be administered. " Like an appointment card | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs" This won't happen for a long time,it will take ages to give the vaccines as you need to be pricked twice,it will take even longer  | |||
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"It’s a non story. It’s just used to remind people when their second dose will be administered. " Correct. It didn't stop a certain tabloid from using them as a clickbait scare story headline though. | |||
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"It’s a non story. It’s just used to remind people when their second dose will be administered. Like an appointment card "t That's fair enough. At the moment it looks like many people won't be offered the vaccine until the tail end of 2021, so it would be very harsh for them if it was anything more than an appointment card. | |||
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"Also showing a poll, saying most people agree, anti-vaxxers shouldn't be on planes " Maybe there will be certain companies catering for people who have chosen or can't take a vaccine and other companies who only take vaccinated. I'm sure they would be a market for both. | |||
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"Also showing a poll, saying most people agree, anti-vaxxers shouldn't be on planes Maybe there will be certain companies catering for people who have chosen or can't take a vaccine and other companies who only take vaccinated. I'm sure they would be a market for both." Probably, another company might be set, called, say, "Corona Airways" | |||
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"Also showing a poll, saying most people agree, anti-vaxxers shouldn't be on planes Maybe there will be certain companies catering for people who have chosen or can't take a vaccine and other companies who only take vaccinated. I'm sure they would be a market for both. Probably, another company might be set, called, say, "Corona Airways" "Absolutely it could be called one of many names. It all remains to be seen in the future. It's impossible to predict at the moment, how things will end up, in my view. | |||
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"Sad state of affairs when people are sneered at because they don't share their health history on demand. Where do we draw the line on that though? Can't enter a club without a recent STI test,or go to a restaurant with proving you're upto date on your tetanus jabs ? " But you would wear a condom in a club, surely...can you catch tetanus, I don't know about that one | |||
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"Also showing a poll, saying most people agree, anti-vaxxers shouldn't be on planes Maybe there will be certain companies catering for people who have chosen or can't take a vaccine and other companies who only take vaccinated. I'm sure they would be a market for both. Probably, another company might be set, called, say, "Corona Airways" "I wonder how much travel insurance would cost, to board Covid Airways flight 666 to the Virus Coast? | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already." It’s just an appointment card. | |||
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"Sad state of affairs when people are sneered at because they don't share their health history on demand. Where do we draw the line on that though? Can't enter a club without a recent STI test,or go to a restaurant with proving you're upto date on your tetanus jabs ? " It’s just an appointment card. | |||
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"What next stamp a number on our arms like the nazi's did to the Jews during the war. " It’s just an appointment card. | |||
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"Sad state of affairs when people are sneered at because they don't share their health history on demand. Where do we draw the line on that though? Can't enter a club without a recent STI test,or go to a restaurant with proving you're upto date on your tetanus jabs ? It’s just an appointment card. "  | |||
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"What next stamp a number on our arms like the nazi's did to the Jews during the war. It’s just an appointment card. " | |||
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"Also showing a poll, saying most people agree, anti-vaxxers shouldn't be on planes Maybe there will be certain companies catering for people who have chosen or can't take a vaccine and other companies who only take vaccinated. I'm sure they would be a market for both. Probably, another company might be set, called, say, "Corona Airways"
I wonder how much travel insurance would cost, to board Covid Airways flight 666 to the Virus Coast? "Probably comparable to travel insurance right now as nobody in England has yet been vaccinated under the current programme starting tomorrow. | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already." How so? I really, REALLY want to hear your definition of what a police state is. | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already. How so? I really, REALLY want to hear your definition of what a police state is. " Definition-if you dare say it, you're not in one | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already. How so? I really, REALLY want to hear your definition of what a police state is. Definition-if you dare say it, you're not in one "It's actually extremely insensitive towards people who do suffer under those oppressive regimes tbh | |||
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"Apparently in the corona craft (as they'll surely be known) where it says "ventilation", you press the switch and hospital ventilator drops down. "Sounds extremely likely, cost-effective too no doubt. | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already. How so? I really, REALLY want to hear your definition of what a police state is. Definition-if you dare say it, you're not in one
It's actually extremely insensitive towards people who do suffer under those oppressive regimes tbh"It's ok. In oppressed countries, they're not allowed fab, so they probably missed my unkindness.  | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already. How so? I really, REALLY want to hear your definition of what a police state is. Definition-if you dare say it, you're not in one
It's actually extremely insensitive towards people who do suffer under those oppressive regimes tbhIt's ok. In oppressed countries, they're not allowed fab, so they probably missed my unkindness. "No I meant people who keep claiming we're in a police state when they have no fucking clue how it would even begin to feel. | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already. How so? I really, REALLY want to hear your definition of what a police state is. Definition-if you dare say it, you're not in one
It's actually extremely insensitive towards people who do suffer under those oppressive regimes tbhIt's ok. In oppressed countries, they're not allowed fab, so they probably missed my unkindness. "And I'm sure, they'll all be welcome on Corona Airways. Unless your suggesting, they'll be the only country's to allow them to land? | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs It's going to be months before some people get vaccinated, what do they do until then?" And not everyone not having it, can  | |||
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"I don't have a wallet " I really think you do.Anyway, you could keep it in your extra pocket | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already." If by police state you mean abiding by the constitutional laws of the land, then yes I guess we are. But it sure as hell beats the alternative. | |||
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"I don't have a wallet I really think you do.Anyway, you could keep it in your extra pocket "Nope... I don't.. I don't carry money or cards, so... And women rarely get real pockets, let alone spare ones!  | |||
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"I don't have a wallet I really think you do.Anyway, you could keep it in your extra pocket
Nope... I don't.. I don't carry money or cards, so... And women rarely get real pockets, let alone spare ones! "No worries! You can photo it and show that. But where you gonna keep your mobile? | |||
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"Proof that you e had one perhaps" why should you need to prove it. | |||
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"Proof that you e had one perhaps why should you need to prove it. " Don't worry, Here at Corona Airways, you don't need to prove anything. Leave your documents at home. Our flights are like the aviation industries answer to bareback sex in a Congolese brothel | |||
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"I think this is a very good idea just in case you're asked if you have a card to prove you've been vaccinated" Trust me, it's not a good idea to have bareback sex in a Congolese brothel | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs It's going to be months before some people get vaccinated, what do they do until then? And not everyone not having it, can "True | |||
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"What next stamp a number on our arms like the nazi's did to the Jews during the war. " Nah most of those calling for vaccine ID would want it tattooed on the uncleans foreheads so they can avoid on sight | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs It's going to be months before some people get vaccinated, what do they do until then? And not everyone not having it, can
True "Pantomime time Oh no it isn't Oh yes it is Oh no it isn't Oh yes it is Facts!!!!!! | |||
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"I think this is a very good idea just in case you're asked if you have a card to prove you've been vaccinated Trust me, it's not a good idea to have bareback sex in a Congolese brothel "I didn't say it was!  | |||
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"It’s just a bit of card with the date you had your first jab and the date you get your second , there’s no photo or chip in the card , but don’t let that stop people from making out it’s something it clearly isn’t " Other than a reminder card, is there anything saying it has to be produced to anyone? | |||
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"I think this is a very good idea just in case you're asked if you have a card to prove you've been vaccinated Trust me, it's not a good idea to have bareback sex in a Congolese brothel
I didn't say it was! "I'm terribly sorry. I misunderstood your response. I thought you were a little kinky and enjoyed Congolese brothel s. Tbh, I was a little worried for you | |||
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"I think this is a very good idea just in case you're asked if you have a card to prove you've been vaccinated Trust me, it's not a good idea to have bareback sex in a Congolese brothel
I didn't say it was!
I'm terribly sorry. I misunderstood your response. I thought you were a little kinky and enjoyed Congolese brothel s. Tbh, I was a little worried for you "I didn't say that at all. You're making things up as you're infamous for | |||
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"I think this is a very good idea just in case you're asked if you have a card to prove you've been vaccinated Trust me, it's not a good idea to have bareback sex in a Congolese brothel
I didn't say it was!
I'm terribly sorry. I misunderstood your response. I thought you were a little kinky and enjoyed Congolese brothel s. Tbh, I was a little worried for you
I didn't say that at all. You're making things up as you're infamous for "Mate, you're two steps behind the conversation. Don't butt into others if you don't understand it. | |||
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"Sad state of affairs when people are sneered at because they don't share their health history on demand. Where do we draw the line on that though? Can't enter a club without a recent STI test,or go to a restaurant with proving you're upto date on your tetanus jabs ? But you would wear a condom in a club, surely...can you catch tetanus, I don't know about that one "You can get it by treading on a rusty nail, and many other other things. It can be found in soil, dust even poo, so its pretty widespread. The Op's original question was for thoughts on a card to be carried to prove you'd been vaccinated, which is a slippery slope toward a total police state. This notion that we should all be forced to conform to minority opinion will end up like every other attempt in history. | |||
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"Sad state of affairs when people are sneered at because they don't share their health history on demand. Where do we draw the line on that though? Can't enter a club without a recent STI test,or go to a restaurant with proving you're upto date on your tetanus jabs ? But you would wear a condom in a club, surely...can you catch tetanus, I don't know about that one
You can get it by treading on a rusty nail, and many other other things. It can be found in soil, dust even poo, so its pretty widespread.
The Op's original question was for thoughts on a card to be carried to prove you'd been vaccinated, which is a slippery slope toward a total police state. This notion that we should all be forced to conform to minority opinion will end up like every other attempt in history. "I don't believe anyone should be forced. I'm against that as much as the next man, but we live in a "database" era. It's all about how that data is applied. See mum, I can be sensible too | |||
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"have you watched the 'euro identity card' episode by Yes Minister? "No, but I'm going to have to now | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs" Why what difference does it make | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubsWhy what difference does it make " You'll be able to remember your next appointment? | |||
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"There is 66.65 million people in the uk. To implement vaccine passports a figure of 80% of population vaccinated has been suggested by the government. Thats 53.32 million people As the vaccine needs two injections and only offers protection for 3 months, that's 8 injections a year for each person. Thats 425.55 million injections a year. Does this really sound logistically possible and if possible affordable?" They will be other vaccines on the way soon to | |||
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"There is 66.65 million people in the uk. To implement vaccine passports a figure of 80% of population vaccinated has been suggested by the government. Thats 53.32 million people As the vaccine needs two injections and only offers protection for 3 months, that's 8 injections a year for each person. Thats 425.55 million injections a year. Does this really sound logistically possible and if possible affordable? They will be other vaccines on the way soon to" Lets hope there are. Hopefully they will only require one injection, with any luck they will offer 6 months immunity So.leta say 1/4 of the 80% have the Pfizer vaccine requiring 2 injections to be taken 4 times a year, that 106.65 million injections. And the other 3/4 of the 80% get the knewer vaccines with offered 6 months with only 2 injections a year thats 72.98 million injections a year that 186.63 million injections a year. Logistics possible and if possible affordable?? Faft is these new vaccines will probably only offer 3 months protection also so nore likely a totally of 259.61 million injections a year to keep 80% of the population vaccinated to make Vaccine passports viable. | |||
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"There is 66.65 million people in the uk. To implement vaccine passports a figure of 80% of population vaccinated has been suggested by the government. Thats 53.32 million people As the vaccine needs two injections and only offers protection for 3 months, that's 8 injections a year for each person. Thats 425.55 million injections a year. Does this really sound logistically possible and if possible affordable? They will be other vaccines on the way soon to Lets hope there are. Hopefully they will only require one injection, with any luck they will offer 6 months immunity So.leta say 1/4 of the 80% have the Pfizer vaccine requiring 2 injections to be taken 4 times a year, that 106.65 million injections. And the other 3/4 of the 80% get the knewer vaccines with offered 6 months with only 2 injections a year thats 72.98 million injections a year that 186.63 million injections a year. Logistics possible and if possible affordable?? Faft is these new vaccines will probably only offer 3 months protection also so nore likely a totally of 259.61 million injections a year to keep 80% of the population vaccinated to make Vaccine passports viable." But once the R number is down enough would we need to keep vaccinating anyone apart from the vulnerable? | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs" I think you should read history books... it’s called fascism.. there were a set of trials banning this type of behaviour for a reason | |||
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"There is 66.65 million people in the uk. To implement vaccine passports a figure of 80% of population vaccinated has been suggested by the government. Thats 53.32 million people As the vaccine needs two injections and only offers protection for 3 months, that's 8 injections a year for each person. Thats 425.55 million injections a year. Does this really sound logistically possible and if possible affordable? They will be other vaccines on the way soon to Lets hope there are. Hopefully they will only require one injection, with any luck they will offer 6 months immunity So.leta say 1/4 of the 80% have the Pfizer vaccine requiring 2 injections to be taken 4 times a year, that 106.65 million injections. And the other 3/4 of the 80% get the knewer vaccines with offered 6 months with only 2 injections a year thats 72.98 million injections a year that 186.63 million injections a year. Logistics possible and if possible affordable?? Faft is these new vaccines will probably only offer 3 months protection also so nore likely a totally of 259.61 million injections a year to keep 80% of the population vaccinated to make Vaccine passports viable. But once the R number is down enough would we need to keep vaccinating anyone apart from the vulnerable? " So the idea of a Covid Card/Passport is irrelevant then? | |||
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"There is 66.65 million people in the uk. To implement vaccine passports a figure of 80% of population vaccinated has been suggested by the government. Thats 53.32 million people As the vaccine needs two injections and only offers protection for 3 months, that's 8 injections a year for each person. Thats 425.55 million injections a year. Does this really sound logistically possible and if possible affordable? They will be other vaccines on the way soon to Lets hope there are. Hopefully they will only require one injection, with any luck they will offer 6 months immunity So.leta say 1/4 of the 80% have the Pfizer vaccine requiring 2 injections to be taken 4 times a year, that 106.65 million injections. And the other 3/4 of the 80% get the knewer vaccines with offered 6 months with only 2 injections a year thats 72.98 million injections a year that 186.63 million injections a year. Logistics possible and if possible affordable?? Faft is these new vaccines will probably only offer 3 months protection also so nore likely a totally of 259.61 million injections a year to keep 80% of the population vaccinated to make Vaccine passports viable." Those figures sound about right. I'm pretty sure that's what they will be counting on as in 2 years time they will be charging for the vaccine to recoup/offset govt borrowings. | |||
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"I think this is a very good idea just in case you're asked if you have a card to prove you've been vaccinated" As has been asked already, who would you need to prove it too? | |||
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"There is 66.65 million people in the uk. To implement vaccine passports a figure of 80% of population vaccinated has been suggested by the government. Thats 53.32 million people As the vaccine needs two injections and only offers protection for 3 months, that's 8 injections a year for each person. Thats 425.55 million injections a year. Does this really sound logistically possible and if possible affordable? They will be other vaccines on the way soon to Lets hope there are. Hopefully they will only require one injection, with any luck they will offer 6 months immunity So.leta say 1/4 of the 80% have the Pfizer vaccine requiring 2 injections to be taken 4 times a year, that 106.65 million injections. And the other 3/4 of the 80% get the knewer vaccines with offered 6 months with only 2 injections a year thats 72.98 million injections a year that 186.63 million injections a year. Logistics possible and if possible affordable?? Faft is these new vaccines will probably only offer 3 months protection also so nore likely a totally of 259.61 million injections a year to keep 80% of the population vaccinated to make Vaccine passports viable. But once the R number is down enough would we need to keep vaccinating anyone apart from the vulnerable? So the idea of a Covid Card/Passport is irrelevant then?" I'm not sure... To be honest my comment was in regards to the figures you gave. I can see maybe some sort of temporary covid card being used until the R number is down, but once that happens I don't really see the point in carrying on vaccinating non-vulnerable people, ergo I don't think we will realistically need 260m jabs per year. I think it might just end up being like the flu jab, where vulnerable people get it on the NHS and if you're healthy but want the extra protection you can pay a small fee to get it. I do however think we will need the passports for travel abroad to certain countries, namely ones with higher R numbers who can't handle the extra strain of treating sick visitors. Also I think there are lots who wouldn't risk travelling with potentially sick people on board, so it might be more lucrative for the airlines themselves to introduce a compulsory covid passport in order to guarantee maximum safety to all passengers. | |||
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"There is 66.65 million people in the uk. To implement vaccine passports a figure of 80% of population vaccinated has been suggested by the government. Thats 53.32 million people As the vaccine needs two injections and only offers protection for 3 months, that's 8 injections a year for each person. Thats 425.55 million injections a year. Does this really sound logistically possible and if possible affordable? They will be other vaccines on the way soon to Lets hope there are. Hopefully they will only require one injection, with any luck they will offer 6 months immunity So.leta say 1/4 of the 80% have the Pfizer vaccine requiring 2 injections to be taken 4 times a year, that 106.65 million injections. And the other 3/4 of the 80% get the knewer vaccines with offered 6 months with only 2 injections a year thats 72.98 million injections a year that 186.63 million injections a year. Logistics possible and if possible affordable?? Faft is these new vaccines will probably only offer 3 months protection also so nore likely a totally of 259.61 million injections a year to keep 80% of the population vaccinated to make Vaccine passports viable. But once the R number is down enough would we need to keep vaccinating anyone apart from the vulnerable? So the idea of a Covid Card/Passport is irrelevant then? I'm not sure... To be honest my comment was in regards to the figures you gave. I can see maybe some sort of temporary covid card being used until the R number is down, but once that happens I don't really see the point in carrying on vaccinating non-vulnerable people, ergo I don't think we will realistically need 260m jabs per year. I think it might just end up being like the flu jab, where vulnerable people get it on the NHS and if you're healthy but want the extra protection you can pay a small fee to get it. I do however think we will need the passports for travel abroad to certain countries, namely ones with higher R numbers who can't handle the extra strain of treating sick visitors. Also I think there are lots who wouldn't risk travelling with potentially sick people on board, so it might be more lucrative for the airlines themselves to introduce a compulsory covid passport in order to guarantee maximum safety to all passengers. " Where have you heard you need to be vaccinated every three months? | |||
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"It’s the same type of card you get for any vaccine when you have multiple doses " Yep, I'm rubbish at remembering 2nd appointments, so it'll be handy for me | |||
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"It’s the same type of card you get for any vaccine when you have multiple doses Yep, I'm rubbish at remembering 2nd appointments, so it'll be handy for me "I usually just get a text from my GP/hospital reminding me of appointments... Far easier for me as I will definitely lose a piece of card, and it's much more eco-friendly too!  | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already." The UK is a LONG way away from a police state. Personally if I was required to carry a card that verified I'd had the C19 vaccine and when my next jab was due, I'd happily carry one. What's the harm? E | |||
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"I think this is a very good idea just in case you're asked if you have a card to prove you've been vaccinated As has been asked already, who would you need to prove it too?" Travel operators/airlines, employers, care givers, insurance companies. I'm sure there's likely to be more. E | |||
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"Also showing a poll, saying most people agree, anti-vaxxers shouldn't be on planes Maybe there will be certain companies catering for people who have chosen or can't take a vaccine and other companies who only take vaccinated. I'm sure they would be a market for both. Probably, another company might be set, called, say, "Corona Airways"
I wonder how much travel insurance would cost, to board Covid Airways flight 666 to the Virus Coast?
Probably comparable to travel insurance right now as nobody in England has yet been vaccinated under the current programme starting tomorrow."My year long worldwide travel insurance wasn't much more to renew than normal actually | |||
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"Also showing a poll, saying most people agree, anti-vaxxers shouldn't be on planes Maybe there will be certain companies catering for people who have chosen or can't take a vaccine and other companies who only take vaccinated. I'm sure they would be a market for both. Probably, another company might be set, called, say, "Corona Airways"
I wonder how much travel insurance would cost, to board Covid Airways flight 666 to the Virus Coast?
Probably comparable to travel insurance right now as nobody in England has yet been vaccinated under the current programme starting tomorrow.
My year long worldwide travel insurance wasn't much more to renew than normal actually "But have you notified your insurance, you'll be flying "Corona Airways"? | |||
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" Logistics possible and if possible affordable?? Faft is these new vaccines will probably only offer 3 months protection also so nore likely a totally of 259.61 million injections a year to keep 80% of the population vaccinated to make Vaccine passports viable. But once the R number is down enough would we need to keep vaccinating anyone apart from the vulnerable? So the idea of a Covid Card/Passport is irrelevant then? I'm not sure... To be honest my comment was in regards to the figures you gave. I can see maybe some sort of temporary covid card being used until the R number is down, but once that happens I don't really see the point in carrying on vaccinating non-vulnerable people, ergo I don't think we will realistically need 260m jabs per year. I think it might just end up being like the flu jab, where vulnerable people get it on the NHS and if you're healthy but want the extra protection you can pay a small fee to get it. I do however think we will need the passports for travel abroad to certain countries, namely ones with higher R numbers who can't handle the extra strain of treating sick visitors. Also I think there are lots who wouldn't risk travelling with potentially sick people on board, so it might be more lucrative for the airlines themselves to introduce a compulsory covid passport in order to guarantee maximum safety to all passengers. " Sorry if i sounded a bit harsh. My comments were aimed at those wanted access to most functions of society, social and leisure and ALL travel to require vaccination | |||
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"There is 66.65 million people in the uk. To implement vaccine passports a figure of 80% of population vaccinated has been suggested by the government. Thats 53.32 million people As the vaccine needs two injections and only offers protection for 3 months, that's 8 injections a year for each person. Thats 425.55 million injections a year. Does this really sound logistically possible and if possible affordable? They will be other vaccines on the way soon to Lets hope there are. Hopefully they will only require one injection, with any luck they will offer 6 months immunity So.leta say 1/4 of the 80% have the Pfizer vaccine requiring 2 injections to be taken 4 times a year, that 106.65 million injections. And the other 3/4 of the 80% get the knewer vaccines with offered 6 months with only 2 injections a year thats 72.98 million injections a year that 186.63 million injections a year. Logistics possible and if possible affordable?? Faft is these new vaccines will probably only offer 3 months protection also so nore likely a totally of 259.61 million injections a year to keep 80% of the population vaccinated to make Vaccine passports viable. But once the R number is down enough would we need to keep vaccinating anyone apart from the vulnerable? So the idea of a Covid Card/Passport is irrelevant then? I'm not sure... To be honest my comment was in regards to the figures you gave. I can see maybe some sort of temporary covid card being used until the R number is down, but once that happens I don't really see the point in carrying on vaccinating non-vulnerable people, ergo I don't think we will realistically need 260m jabs per year. I think it might just end up being like the flu jab, where vulnerable people get it on the NHS and if you're healthy but want the extra protection you can pay a small fee to get it. I do however think we will need the passports for travel abroad to certain countries, namely ones with higher R numbers who can't handle the extra strain of treating sick visitors. Also I think there are lots who wouldn't risk travelling with potentially sick people on board, so it might be more lucrative for the airlines themselves to introduce a compulsory covid passport in order to guarantee maximum safety to all passengers. Where have you heard you need to be vaccinated every three months? "This is the point, the information being given about the vaccines disadvantages is not allowed to be discussed calmly. | |||
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This is the point, the information being given about the vaccines disadvantages is not allowed to be discussed calmly."A quick google search will show you our own governments scientists predict only 3 months immunity after vaccination. And i thought this was a calm discussion? | |||
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This is the point, the information being given about the vaccines disadvantages is not allowed to be discussed calmly.
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This is the point, the information being given about the vaccines disadvantages is not allowed to be discussed calmly.
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs This won't happen for a long time,it will take ages to give the vaccines as you need to be pricked twice,it will take even longer ""pricked twice"... a lot of ladies on fab already been done then | |||
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"So vaccinated people use one airline and those not vaccinated another airline. I'm fully recovered from covid so which airline do I use? How else can we divide a society already stressed and divided?" With the airline and travel sector on its knees, there's a sure fire way of helping it to struggle and collapse more easily and that's to divide society even further, with more airlines competing for dwindling customer volumes. We've lost some of our sense this year, failing to take stock of how well our society is and the damage inherent in sustaining division. | |||
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"So vaccinated people use one airline and those not vaccinated another airline. I'm fully recovered from covid so which airline do I use? How else can we divide a society already stressed and divided?" I'm sorry but as you've admitted, you've been "infected", so it's "Corona Airways" for you. Don't be down tho. I'll personally ensure you receive a drinks voucher! Small print. You must have both parents with you, to collect your voucher | |||
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"What for? To show you've been vaccinated. Just announced on sky news. Picture on there too. Government says its not a covid passport tho. I think it's a good idea. "Think that’s a brilliant idea! I get tested weekly in my job, definitely love you’re idea ?? | |||
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"A lot on here seem to think people who dont have the jab should be denied the right to flight, go to the pub ect. What about Vegan and vegetarian? From what I've read this product has been tested on animals. Am I to be denied these things because I dont believe in cruelty to animals? Are all Vegan restaurants to shut because no one frequenting them will have been jabbed? The animal rights activists will have a field day with this.........." I'm not entirely sure, so don't quote me on this. If you sit next to a vegetarian you can't catch vegetarianism. But if you sit next to someone who has Covid there's a high probability that you'll catch it too. E | |||
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"Any business restricting access to those who have had vaccine will be financial disaster. Will take 1-2yrs to vaccinate whole country. The most economically active demographics/age groups are not even included in the current roll out list. A vaccine passport won’t happen." It can't be brought in till people are vaccinated. Then, I think it's what the majority of the population want to see happening. | |||
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"Then be copied like fake ids passports driving licence etc " The new e-passports, are able to do this. The tech is here. Facial recognition could pick out people who are not vaccinated. Also scanning faces can pick up someone with a temperature. So that could protect too. | |||
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"Plus a uk poll stated that only 34% of uk people wanted the vaccine but needed 70 to 80% for it to be effective " I've seen one saying 78%. | |||
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"I read the bbc news one" Ahhh, I see. Another poll of 17000 people found 54 % of people want vax passports on aircraft. | |||
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"Thats only just over half ineffective " Correct. 32% said they didn't want them, the rest were unsure. | |||
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"And I can't see travel agents asking for it they'd all go bust" You mean like they ask to see your passport before you pay for the holiday? | |||
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"And I can't see travel agents asking for it they'd all go bust You mean like they ask to see your passport before you pay for the holiday? " Sorry got to ask, who do you book with? I've never been asked about my passport when booking a holiday or even a flight, in store, over the phone or online. I actually wish Emirates and Tui would store our api because It would save me time inputting it repeatedly. | |||
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"And I can't see travel agents asking for it they'd all go bust You mean like they ask to see your passport before you pay for the holiday? Sorry got to ask, who do you book with? I've never been asked about my passport when booking a holiday or even a flight, in store, over the phone or online. I actually wish Emirates and Tui would store our api because It would save me time inputting it repeatedly." We haven't been vaccinated yet so this would be in the future, or it could be done at check-in. | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs It's going to be months before some people get vaccinated, what do they do until then? Keep up mate lol, the first to be vaccinated has taken place in Kent The first person to be vaccinated was Margaret Keenan in Coventry. As I said, it will be months before some of us get vaccinated, they haven't got enough vaccine for everyone yet "You are right, sorry I was going by this https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/coronavirus-vaccine-croydon-university-hospital-19420690 | |||
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"And I can't see travel agents asking for it they'd all go bust" It won’t be the travel agents or airlines though. Nine European countries have already said that the vaccine will be compulsory in their countries. Can you really see them and other countries such as Australia and NewZealand allowing travellers from other countries where infection rates are higher into their country if they haven’t had the vaccine? | |||
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"And I can't see travel agents asking for it they'd all go bust It won’t be the travel agents or airlines though. Nine European countries have already said that the vaccine will be compulsory in their countries. Can you really see them and other countries such as Australia and NewZealand allowing travellers from other countries where infection rates are higher into their country if they haven’t had the vaccine? " I hadn't thought of that. I really think we will have them now. | |||
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"There is 66.65 million people in the uk. To implement vaccine passports a figure of 80% of population vaccinated has been suggested by the government. Thats 53.32 million people As the vaccine needs two injections and only offers protection for 3 months, that's 8 injections a year for each person. Thats 425.55 million injections a year. Does this really sound logistically possible and if possible affordable? They will be other vaccines on the way soon to Lets hope there are. Hopefully they will only require one injection, with any luck they will offer 6 months immunity So.leta say 1/4 of the 80% have the Pfizer vaccine requiring 2 injections to be taken 4 times a year, that 106.65 million injections. And the other 3/4 of the 80% get the knewer vaccines with offered 6 months with only 2 injections a year thats 72.98 million injections a year that 186.63 million injections a year. Logistics possible and if possible affordable?? Faft is these new vaccines will probably only offer 3 months protection also so nore likely a totally of 259.61 million injections a year to keep 80% of the population vaccinated to make Vaccine passports viable. But once the R number is down enough would we need to keep vaccinating anyone apart from the vulnerable? So the idea of a Covid Card/Passport is irrelevant then? I'm not sure... To be honest my comment was in regards to the figures you gave. I can see maybe some sort of temporary covid card being used until the R number is down, but once that happens I don't really see the point in carrying on vaccinating non-vulnerable people, ergo I don't think we will realistically need 260m jabs per year. I think it might just end up being like the flu jab, where vulnerable people get it on the NHS and if you're healthy but want the extra protection you can pay a small fee to get it. I do however think we will need the passports for travel abroad to certain countries, namely ones with higher R numbers who can't handle the extra strain of treating sick visitors. Also I think there are lots who wouldn't risk travelling with potentially sick people on board, so it might be more lucrative for the airlines themselves to introduce a compulsory covid passport in order to guarantee maximum safety to all passengers. Where have you heard you need to be vaccinated every three months? "That has come from a few different sources on the news in the past few weeks when questioned to the long term efficacy of the vaccine. The response has always been 3-4 months with a booster not out of the question as the vaccine may not trigger the immune system in everyone in the same way. It also depends on how long the virus continues to show itself. | |||
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"The Vaccine doesn't stop you passing the virus onto other people so why, just means your immune, that's why restrictions will remain in place for a good while." That's not what the trial results show. | |||
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"And I can't see travel agents asking for it they'd all go bust It won’t be the travel agents or airlines though. Nine European countries have already said that the vaccine will be compulsory in their countries. Can you really see them and other countries such as Australia and NewZealand allowing travellers from other countries where infection rates are higher into their country if they haven’t had the vaccine? Care to share who this countries are, or where did you get that info from? " It’s part of an article issued by McGill university in October. The same article points out that 105 of 193 countries already have mandatory vaccination requirements for at least one vaccine. That doesn’t mean that they make the COVID vaccine mandatory but some probably will. In recent news there have been articles about Italy, France, Australia and certain states in the US and Brazil making vaccination mandatory. No doubt a lot of countries will see how many of their population have the vaccine voluntarily but if it isn’t sufficient to halt the spread of the virus their policies may have to change to avoid the ongoing economic impacts. Even if they don’t make vaccination compulsory for their own citizens though they may well insist of travellers being vaccinated- there is plenty of precedent for this. | |||
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"A lot on here seem to think people who dont have the jab should be denied the right to flight, go to the pub ect. What about Vegan and vegetarian? From what I've read this product has been tested on animals. Am I to be denied these things because I dont believe in cruelty to animals? Are all Vegan restaurants to shut because no one frequenting them will have been jabbed? The animal rights activists will have a field day with this.......... I'm not entirely sure, so don't quote me on this. If you sit next to a vegetarian you can't catch vegetarianism. But if you sit next to someone who has Covid there's a high probability that you'll catch it too. E" Very nice example of a Straw man logical fallacy, well done you | |||
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"Everyone should receive a covid card when vaccinated. Its filled in by the nhs. It'll just fit snugly in your wallet. Thoughts? " You get one for your flu jab too, and other treatments like that. It’s simply a reminder of when you e had it. Nothing sinister. | |||
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"And I can't see travel agents asking for it they'd all go bust It won’t be the travel agents or airlines though. Nine European countries have already said that the vaccine will be compulsory in their countries. Can you really see them and other countries such as Australia and NewZealand allowing travellers from other countries where infection rates are higher into their country if they haven’t had the vaccine? Care to share who this countries are, or where did you get that info from? It’s part of an article issued by McGill university in October. The same article points out that 105 of 193 countries already have mandatory vaccination requirements for at least one vaccine. That doesn’t mean that they make the COVID vaccine mandatory but some probably will. In recent news there have been articles about Italy, France, Australia and certain states in the US and Brazil making vaccination mandatory. No doubt a lot of countries will see how many of their population have the vaccine voluntarily but if it isn’t sufficient to halt the spread of the virus their policies may have to change to avoid the ongoing economic impacts. Even if they don’t make vaccination compulsory for their own citizens though they may well insist of travellers being vaccinated- there is plenty of precedent for this." Hope you realise how scaremongering spreads? Read back your previous post and then response to my question and you'll see. | |||
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"A lot on here seem to think people who dont have the jab should be denied the right to flight, go to the pub ect. What about Vegan and vegetarian? From what I've read this product has been tested on animals. Am I to be denied these things because I dont believe in cruelty to animals? Are all Vegan restaurants to shut because no one frequenting them will have been jabbed? The animal rights activists will have a field day with this.......... I'm not entirely sure, so don't quote me on this. If you sit next to a vegetarian you can't catch vegetarianism. But if you sit next to someone who has Covid there's a high probability that you'll catch it too. E Very nice example of a Straw man logical fallacy, well done you " I think yours was a bit more daft to be honest. E | |||
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"Don't fucking think so, we are living in a police state enough already." Completely agree. Sadly it'll only get worse! | |||
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"No point. It's not hard to print one yourself. A big fake market for them will appear. Even a child could copy one and print it like the original on paper or card or plastic." Barcode, serial no, even facial recognition, very hard to copy. Like credit cards and bank cards. If it was in the e-passports, how would a child copy those? | |||
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"No point. It's not hard to print one yourself. A big fake market for them will appear. Even a child could copy one and print it like the original on paper or card or plastic. Barcode, serial no, even facial recognition, very hard to copy. Like credit cards and bank cards. If it was in the e-passports, how would a child copy those? "You seem to be obsessed with this nonsense. It simply isn't going to Happen. Come back to this thread in a few months and laugh at yourself. If you are so desperate to have some sort of certificate I can point you in the right direction. | |||
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"No point. It's not hard to print one yourself. A big fake market for them will appear. Even a child could copy one and print it like the original on paper or card or plastic. Barcode, serial no, even facial recognition, very hard to copy. Like credit cards and bank cards. If it was in the e-passports, how would a child copy those? You seem to be obsessed with this nonsense.
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"Everyone should receive a covid card when vaccinated. Its filled in by the nhs. It'll just fit snugly in your wallet. Thoughts? " Why in the wallet? I have a card reminding me to have my mirena coil changed, I don't keep this in my wallet, it stays in a file with other important paperwork. So, reminder card yes, wallet, no need to keep it there at all, unless of course you are inferring that it should be used to prove vaccination to gain access to places? | |||
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Don't carry money or cards? Are you the Queen in disguise?"I've never used a purse. I used to just keep my card in my pocket but now I use Samsung Pay and if I absolutely have to I'll tuck my ID into my phone case for a night out. Clubcard is on my keyring and I don't need anything else. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Surely if they have had the vaccine they have nothing to worry about? But maybe they think they'll catch covid as they imply everyone who isn't having it obviously will pass it on because they're all infected and the vaccine isn't 100% proof. (Disclaimer, I'm applying their logic to things here and not my own) " Don't mention logic, when you use words like maybe or imply. Otherwise nobody has ever said that every vaccine dodger will be infected. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine?" Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. " Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others." You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me! | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me! "Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them. Do so knowing the risk though is what I say. You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me!
Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them.
Do so knowing the risk though is what I say.
You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection."So you think the vaccine won't make us any safer? Really? | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me!
Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them.
Do so knowing the risk though is what I say.
You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection."Totally fake news and misinformation. There is no policy in China. Just a recommendation for staff, as toilets cannot be cleaned effectively during a flight, to reduce their risk. Stop spreading lies and fear. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me!
Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them.
Do so knowing the risk though is what I say.
You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection.
Totally fake news and misinformation. There is no policy in China. Just a recommendation for staff, as toilets cannot be cleaned effectively during a flight, to reduce their risk. Stop spreading lies and fear. "It is correct that China has put this in their new PPE flight recommendation documentation. BBC news if you'd like to read the exact details. "The advice on nappies is in a section on personal protective equipment in new guidelines for airlines. The regulator said the recommendation applied to charter flights to high-risk Covid-19 destinations." No it's not fake news. Read more carefully, I said it was for cabin crew and you might find airlines start to insist on this. I said you might be asked to wear them too... This could be the new addition to the covid travel passport some have been telling us we'll all have to have... | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me!
Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them.
Do so knowing the risk though is what I say.
You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection.
Totally fake news and misinformation. There is no policy in China. Just a recommendation for staff, as toilets cannot be cleaned effectively during a flight, to reduce their risk. Stop spreading lies and fear.
It is correct that China has put this in their new PPE flight recommendation documentation. BBC news if you'd like to read the exact details.
"The advice on nappies is in a section on personal protective equipment in new guidelines for airlines.
The regulator said the recommendation applied to charter flights to high-risk Covid-19 destinations."
No it's not fake news. Read more carefully, I said it was for cabin crew and you might find airlines start to insist on this.
I said you might be asked to wear them too... This could be the new addition to the covid travel passport some have been telling us we'll all have to have...
"I see you chose to change your words to recommendations from policy. Also people can use the loo. It's free choice. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me!
Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them.
Do so knowing the risk though is what I say.
You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection.
Totally fake news and misinformation. There is no policy in China. Just a recommendation for staff, as toilets cannot be cleaned effectively during a flight, to reduce their risk. Stop spreading lies and fear.
It is correct that China has put this in their new PPE flight recommendation documentation. BBC news if you'd like to read the exact details.
"The advice on nappies is in a section on personal protective equipment in new guidelines for airlines.
The regulator said the recommendation applied to charter flights to high-risk Covid-19 destinations."
No it's not fake news. Read more carefully, I said it was for cabin crew and you might find airlines start to insist on this.
I said you might be asked to wear them too... This could be the new addition to the covid travel passport some have been telling us we'll all have to have...
I see you chose to change your words to recommendations from policy. Also people can use the loo. It's free choice. "So you still calling it fake news? | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me!
Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them.
Do so knowing the risk though is what I say.
You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection.
Totally fake news and misinformation. There is no policy in China. Just a recommendation for staff, as toilets cannot be cleaned effectively during a flight, to reduce their risk. Stop spreading lies and fear.
It is correct that China has put this in their new PPE flight recommendation documentation. BBC news if you'd like to read the exact details.
"The advice on nappies is in a section on personal protective equipment in new guidelines for airlines.
The regulator said the recommendation applied to charter flights to high-risk Covid-19 destinations."
No it's not fake news. Read more carefully, I said it was for cabin crew and you might find airlines start to insist on this.
I said you might be asked to wear them too... This could be the new addition to the covid travel passport some have been telling us we'll all have to have...
I see you chose to change your words to recommendations from policy. Also people can use the loo. It's free choice.
So you still calling it fake news? "Deffinatly yes. When a story is twisted to frighten people. You deliberately changed words, intending to scare people. | |||
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"Everyone should receive a covid card when vaccinated. Its filled in by the nhs. It'll just fit snugly in your wallet. Thoughts? " As it's far too easily counterfeited, perhaps, oh I don't know, some sort of RFID could be placed under the skin of the vaccinated person. Just an idea. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me!
Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them.
Do so knowing the risk though is what I say.
You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection.
Totally fake news and misinformation. There is no policy in China. Just a recommendation for staff, as toilets cannot be cleaned effectively during a flight, to reduce their risk. Stop spreading lies and fear.
It is correct that China has put this in their new PPE flight recommendation documentation. BBC news if you'd like to read the exact details.
"The advice on nappies is in a section on personal protective equipment in new guidelines for airlines.
The regulator said the recommendation applied to charter flights to high-risk Covid-19 destinations."
No it's not fake news. Read more carefully, I said it was for cabin crew and you might find airlines start to insist on this.
I said you might be asked to wear them too... This could be the new addition to the covid travel passport some have been telling us we'll all have to have...
I see you chose to change your words to recommendations from policy. Also people can use the loo. It's free choice.
So you still calling it fake news?
Deffinatly yes. When a story is twisted to frighten people. You deliberately changed words, intending to scare people. "Not intending to scare people at all and there's no twisting. You do though and have done. You've repeated implied you're safe from infecting others if you get the vaccine. I pointed out that this isn't the case and you tried to say there's no proof. I showed the proof that virologists, UK medical advisors and even the CEO of Pfizer came out and said it, yet you responded in saying, "and we're down to the same old crap accusing people of being misled or mis informed. But of course, you know the truth." When people like yourself and others spread the idea that by having the vaccine makes you safe from transmitting it, (which is false) and using that as an argument to bully those who are hesitant I find it very damaging to the whole idea of trying to get people to trust the vaccines. It needs to be done with all the correct information and not in a misleading way. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me!
Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them.
Do so knowing the risk though is what I say.
You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection.
Totally fake news and misinformation. There is no policy in China. Just a recommendation for staff, as toilets cannot be cleaned effectively during a flight, to reduce their risk. Stop spreading lies and fear.
It is correct that China has put this in their new PPE flight recommendation documentation. BBC news if you'd like to read the exact details.
"The advice on nappies is in a section on personal protective equipment in new guidelines for airlines.
The regulator said the recommendation applied to charter flights to high-risk Covid-19 destinations."
No it's not fake news. Read more carefully, I said it was for cabin crew and you might find airlines start to insist on this.
I said you might be asked to wear them too... This could be the new addition to the covid travel passport some have been telling us we'll all have to have...
I see you chose to change your words to recommendations from policy. Also people can use the loo. It's free choice.
So you still calling it fake news?
Deffinatly yes. When a story is twisted to frighten people. You deliberately changed words, intending to scare people.
Not intending to scare people at all and there's no twisting.
You do though and have done. You've repeated implied you're safe from infecting others if you get the vaccine. I pointed out that this isn't the case and you tried to say there's no proof. I showed the proof that virologists, UK medical advisors and even the CEO of Pfizer came out and said it, yet you responded in saying, "and we're down to the same old crap accusing people of being misled or mis informed. But of course, you know the truth."
When people like yourself and others spread the idea that by having the vaccine makes you safe from transmitting it, (which is false) and using that as an argument to bully those who are hesitant I find it very damaging to the whole idea of trying to get people to trust the vaccines. It needs to be done with all the correct information and not in a misleading way."Check what I've said. I'm careful with words. I'll repeat again, no vaccine or medicine is 100%safe and effective. I think vaccines work and reduce the risk. Fact. | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs" my daughters just booked some tickets for a concert and it clearly states that you must have been vaccinated against covid to attend on the small print x | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs my daughters just booked some tickets for a concert and it clearly states that you must have been vaccinated against covid to attend on the small print x" Can she get a vaccination? | |||
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"Absolutely. Should be a compulsory requirement before boarding public transport, booking holidays abroad, getting travel insurance, public sports events...and of course clubs my daughters just booked some tickets for a concert and it clearly states that you must have been vaccinated against covid to attend on the small print x" Well as the majority of people attending concerts are under 50 ( no not yours Cliff) that might be a problem. They haven’t even included under 50s yet. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Lower viral load is the obvious answer, on average. Reduced potential to pick up an infection, probably. Possibly after a few months of having the vaccine and you're immunity has responded as it should. As for those who think those who don't have it shouldn't be allowed to travel because they think they will spread it any more than someone who has had it needs to rethink this strange restriction they wish to place on others. You need to tell a certain Australian carrier, not me!
Why, they can make their own policies, but if people want to blindly think they are safer because they have the vaccine, fools are them.
Do so knowing the risk though is what I say.
You might find some airlines decide to adopt a wider policy of insisting all who fly must wear disposable nappies as China has now made it PPE policy for its cabin crew on flight to places that have certain high levels of infection.
Totally fake news and misinformation. There is no policy in China. Just a recommendation for staff, as toilets cannot be cleaned effectively during a flight, to reduce their risk. Stop spreading lies and fear.
It is correct that China has put this in their new PPE flight recommendation documentation. BBC news if you'd like to read the exact details.
"The advice on nappies is in a section on personal protective equipment in new guidelines for airlines.
The regulator said the recommendation applied to charter flights to high-risk Covid-19 destinations."
No it's not fake news. Read more carefully, I said it was for cabin crew and you might find airlines start to insist on this.
I said you might be asked to wear them too... This could be the new addition to the covid travel passport some have been telling us we'll all have to have...
I see you chose to change your words to recommendations from policy. Also people can use the loo. It's free choice.
So you still calling it fake news?
Deffinatly yes. When a story is twisted to frighten people. You deliberately changed words, intending to scare people.
Not intending to scare people at all and there's no twisting.
You do though and have done. You've repeated implied you're safe from infecting others if you get the vaccine. I pointed out that this isn't the case and you tried to say there's no proof. I showed the proof that virologists, UK medical advisors and even the CEO of Pfizer came out and said it, yet you responded in saying, "and we're down to the same old crap accusing people of being misled or mis informed. But of course, you know the truth."
When people like yourself and others spread the idea that by having the vaccine makes you safe from transmitting it, (which is false) and using that as an argument to bully those who are hesitant I find it very damaging to the whole idea of trying to get people to trust the vaccines. It needs to be done with all the correct information and not in a misleading way.
Check what I've said. I'm careful with words. I'll repeat again, no vaccine or medicine is 100%safe and effective. I think vaccines work and reduce the risk. Fact. "This particular vaccine protects the vaccinated from the virus I.e stops them having severe symptoms. There is no evidence yet that it stops the transmission. | |||
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"Ok question to the pro rammers of the Covid vaccine amongst you. Why are you safer to sit next too on a plane than someone who hasn't had the vaccine? Surely if they have had the vaccine they have nothing to worry about? But maybe they think they'll catch covid as they imply everyone who isn't having it obviously will pass it on because they're all infected and the vaccine isn't 100% proof. (Disclaimer, I'm applying their logic to things here and not my own) " Haven't you realised that there is no logic on here lol?! | |||
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