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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others? "

No

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

No"

No change?

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

It wouldn't change anything for me.

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
over a year ago

Wales/ All over UK

No change for me, I want to get vaccinated

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho."
It wouldnt change anything.

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
over a year ago

Wales/ All over UK


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho."

It is spread by being in close proximity to others though.... so that kind of limits your alternative sexual options...

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho."

Bit hard to have sex with someone without breathing within 6 feet of them

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho."

It is transmitted through close contact.

Unless you can have a sexual encounter socially distancing.

I'm sure they'll be someone on here who will argue that point,lol.

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By *oodnitegirlWoman
over a year ago

Yorkshire

Guess I’ll not be shagging them then. Plenty more swingers in the sea!

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

It is spread by being in close proximity to others though.... so that kind of limits your alternative sexual options..."

Yes it would. I wonder if that is the next thing we will hear on the news that noone should have sex anymore?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would be the end of my much loved club visits unfortunately

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

It is spread by being in close proximity to others though.... so that kind of limits your alternative sexual options...Yes it would. I wonder if that is the next thing we will hear on the news that noone should have sex anymore?"

I've already had a vax, for a sexual disease. It all helps me play safer. I'm looking forward to the covid vaccines, getting back to the new normal. I'll still be trying to keep safe and avoid meeting unvaccinated folk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just put out a statement that the vaccine increases penis size and every man will have one tomorrow

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By *haft009Man
over a year ago

Manchester

If yours needs enlargement lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just put out a statement that the vaccine increases penis size and every man will have one tomorrow"

Actually having the vaccine works better than Lynx Africa in attracting women.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bit hard to have sex with someone without breathing within 6 feet of them"

You met my ex wife?

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By *itty9899Man
over a year ago

Craggy Island


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others? "

It won't.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT

It's a good idea

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I managed to have sex before joining a swingers site.

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho."

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus. "

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock "

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

"

Thanks for that I was just about to put a call in to Guinness book of World records

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We still don't know that much about the virus, especially related to sexual matters.

Over 30 viruses can be found in and possibly transmitted, by a guys genitals. It's wise to assume that if he touches his cock - which guy doesn't - that virus particules could be upon it. Sufficient amounts of viral material will be needed to cause an infection but even if he's a really fast 2 pumps cummer, breath etc may provide that in total.

Masked may help.

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

Thanks for that I was just about to put a call in to Guinness book of World records "

He would have got even more famous on Big Brother, as it would have been caught on camera. Sadly it got cancelled, before he got to go in.

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

Thanks for that I was just about to put a call in to Guinness book of World records

He would have got even more famous on Big Brother, as it would have been caught on camera. Sadly it got cancelled, before he got to go in. "

Who?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We wont be vaccinated but judging by the amount of offers we have had to meet over the last few months I doubt we will be short of playmates.......

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

Thanks for that I was just about to put a call in to Guinness book of World records

He would have got even more famous on Big Brother, as it would have been caught on camera. Sadly it got cancelled, before he got to go in.

Who?"

But one thing that I dont get is why people on dating sites cant meet for sex but everyday people have it, shouldnt there then be a world ban of sex so noone can have it?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"We wont be vaccinated but judging by the amount of offers we have had to meet over the last few months I doubt we will be short of playmates......."

Exactly!! On a daily basis here x

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

No

No change? "

No change, we wouldn't be in a club until and if we get vaccinated anyway. Unless we get playa del ingles in which case everyone in the club will have tested negative and the risk is much lower ... We'll see how that pans out.

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By *razyhappyguys04Couple
over a year ago

London.

We will not shsg anyone if you have been vaccinated ,, so won't go to clubs but saying that there will be underground ones xx

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By *jl1972Man
over a year ago

Bournemouth


"We wont be vaccinated but judging by the amount of offers we have had to meet over the last few months I doubt we will be short of playmates......."

I think you will find a lot of those offers will disappear when they find out...or will you just not bother telling them?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"We wont be vaccinated but judging by the amount of offers we have had to meet over the last few months I doubt we will be short of playmates.......

I think you will find a lot of those offers will disappear when they find out...or will you just not bother telling them?"

If they willing to meet now in the middle of all this think u find they wont give a flying fk lol x

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

Thanks for that I was just about to put a call in to Guinness book of World records

He would have got even more famous on Big Brother, as it would have been caught on camera. Sadly it got cancelled, before he got to go in.

Who?"

Shag

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"We wont be vaccinated but judging by the amount of offers we have had to meet over the last few months I doubt we will be short of playmates......."

And if all swinging services, ie clubs, websites etc only permit engagement between those who are vaccinated, as OP details?

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

Thanks for that I was just about to put a call in to Guinness book of World records

He would have got even more famous on Big Brother, as it would have been caught on camera. Sadly it got cancelled, before he got to go in.

Who?

Shag "

Xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We wont be vaccinated but judging by the amount of offers we have had to meet over the last few months I doubt we will be short of playmates.......

I think you will find a lot of those offers will disappear when they find out...or will you just not bother telling them?"

Not a single one of them thats asked us for a meet since March (and we have had a lot) have cared less about the covid risks or any lock downs. What makes you think they are going to check if we have been vaccinated?

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

Thanks for that I was just about to put a call in to Guinness book of World records

He would have got even more famous on Big Brother, as it would have been caught on camera. Sadly it got cancelled, before he got to go in.

Who?

Shag

Xxx"

Yes I would of been even more famous and yes, is a shame it got cancelled before I could go in there, maibe it will come back in the future, lets so

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

Thanks for that I was just about to put a call in to Guinness book of World records

He would have got even more famous on Big Brother, as it would have been caught on camera. Sadly it got cancelled, before he got to go in.

Who?

Shag

XxxYes I would of been even more famous and yes, is a shame it got cancelled before I could go in there, maibe it will come back in the future, lets so "

Did you audition to go on there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And just to prove a point we have had 4 requests to meet since I put the last post on this thread!!

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley


"We will not shsg anyone if you have been vaccinated ,, so won't go to clubs but saying that there will be underground ones xx "

Are these the places that spread disease, like Hiv, around?

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By *usie pTV/TS
over a year ago

taunton

Are we going to get issued with a certificate of proof when we have the vaccination lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are we going to get issued with a certificate of proof when we have the vaccination lol"

It goes on your medical records, so piece of cake to make a digital certificate available

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"And just to prove a point we have had 4 requests to meet since I put the last post on this thread!!"

I belive u get them everyday every other message ask to meet today x

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"And just to prove a point we have had 4 requests to meet since I put the last post on this thread!!"

Arseholes have been asking to meet all the way through - only 4 a day? That’s not many at all .... they must be slacking

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots. "

Wow! x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I would be ok with it, I intend having the jabs as soon as.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

Wow! x"

Why wow? People who choose for others to take the risk on behalf of society are selfish. Are you disputing that fact? Unless there is a valid medical reason for not vaccinating why decline it? It’s for the good of society and we as healthy adults can protect those weaker and more vulnerable by being vaccinated ... anti vaxxers have the right to refuse but if they don’t want to help protect society why should they reap the benefits of it?

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

Wow! x

Why wow? People who choose for others to take the risk on behalf of society are selfish. Are you disputing that fact? Unless there is a valid medical reason for not vaccinating why decline it? It’s for the good of society and we as healthy adults can protect those weaker and more vulnerable by being vaccinated ... anti vaxxers have the right to refuse but if they don’t want to help protect society why should they reap the benefits of it? "

I'm not anti vax just not having this one x

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

No"

that doesnt make sense? care to clarify?

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

Wow! x

Why wow? People who choose for others to take the risk on behalf of society are selfish. Are you disputing that fact? Unless there is a valid medical reason for not vaccinating why decline it? It’s for the good of society and we as healthy adults can protect those weaker and more vulnerable by being vaccinated ... anti vaxxers have the right to refuse but if they don’t want to help protect society why should they reap the benefits of it?

I'm not anti vax just not having this one x"

Then there needs to be a consequence attached to your choice - to return to pre covid we all have to do our bit. You’re choosing not to

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

Wow! x

Why wow? People who choose for others to take the risk on behalf of society are selfish. Are you disputing that fact? Unless there is a valid medical reason for not vaccinating why decline it? It’s for the good of society and we as healthy adults can protect those weaker and more vulnerable by being vaccinated ... anti vaxxers have the right to refuse but if they don’t want to help protect society why should they reap the benefits of it?

I'm not anti vax just not having this one x

Then there needs to be a consequence attached to your choice - to return to pre covid we all have to do our bit. You’re choosing not to "

Yes I do I wear my mask I dont meet anyone except at work In supermarket that's a joke lol! I am asthmatic/diabetic and 63 I will abide by any conditions of not having the vaccine and will forfeit a ventilator at end of the day it's my choice x

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others? "

Absolutely the way to go .. yes I understand some people might be trotting out the ' what goes into my body' routine. That is fair enough to be able to make that decision. However,

I would argue that anyone decides not to agree to be vaccinated or protected is heavily counteracted by those who also want the relative safety and security of knowing that people and places they go to are going to be safe.

Something I think a lot of people seem to be forgetting is that the worry is not dying from contracting the virus ( although that is a concern obviously!)

The real concern is being unable to work /out of work and infecting others close to you who would end up in the same position.

I fully 'get' peoples principles though will now always argue that principles can not be more important than peoples livelihoods and the economy in general.

personally, I have decided to try to find maybe a handful of swinging friends for the foreseeable who would all agree to remain exclusive to each other. Trust obviously being very important here! yes it is making 2 bubbles but thats the best solution I can think of !

I have also decided not to socialise outside a family bubble or go to clubs, concerts indoor venues etc until we have some sort of national agreement on this . I dont think its fair that some can refuse to be what I guess is called 'safe' and other be happy to run the risk .. It has to be an ' all or nothing' situationn its just not safe enough for everyone otherwise :/

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Warwick


"We wont be vaccinated but judging by the amount of offers we have had to meet over the last few months I doubt we will be short of playmates.......

I think you will find a lot of those offers will disappear when they find out...or will you just not bother telling them?

Not a single one of them thats asked us for a meet since March (and we have had a lot) have cared less about the covid risks or any lock downs. What makes you think they are going to check if we have been vaccinated?

"

I can't possibly imagine why anyone would possibly want to meet someone who has that little regard for their health. Have you considered that if they don't care about the covid risks they probably aren't that bothered about passing their STDs on either!

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

Bodily fluids contain the virus and being physically close to others can spread the virus.

Not unless he's got a 2 metre cock

I can confirm that Shag's famous l cock is a wonderful specimen but it's not 2m in length. Plus people would need to keep 2m from the end of his cock.

Thanks for that I was just about to put a call in to Guinness book of World records

He would have got even more famous on Big Brother, as it would have been caught on camera. Sadly it got cancelled, before he got to go in.

Who?

Shag

XxxYes I would of been even more famous and yes, is a shame it got cancelled before I could go in there, maibe it will come back in the future, lets so

Did you audition to go on there "

No I didnt but I thought about it, it would of been fun as well

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By *hades Of GreyMan
over a year ago

Leeds


"

I can't possibly imagine why anyone would possibly want to meet someone who has that little regard for their health. Have you considered that if they don't care about the covid risks they probably aren't that bothered about passing their STDs on either!

"

I agree.

Also, even after those that are going to have the vaccine have had it the Virus hasn't gone anywhere, it's still in the population, so those who have not had the vaccine are still in danger of getting Covid and suffering the consequenses.

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I mean... it's wouldn't. Apart from the positive of ensuring the uneducated aren't in the club. Won't rule out meeting idiots but reduce the chances.

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By *hic EventsWoman
over a year ago

Cambridge


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others? "

So the question is hypothetical? Because clubs will never ask for that and won’t ever be able to. It would be against data protection protocols to ask if you been vaccinated!

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

So the question is hypothetical? Because clubs will never ask for that and won’t ever be able to. It would be against data protection protocols to ask if you been vaccinated! "

We would be very wary as having a vaccine does not mean you cannot catch or pass on covid. That simple lack of understanding would show us those playing there were not safe partners

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I simply won't go for the foreseeable future.

I won't be getting the vaccine, at least not right away so I'd prefer to just keep myself isolated as I have been so far.

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Warwick


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

So the question is hypothetical? Because clubs will never ask for that and won’t ever be able to. It would be against data protection protocols to ask if you been vaccinated! "

It would not be a breach of data protection laws to ask if you had been vaccinated and under GDPR they would be entitled to hold that information as long as it was only used for the intended purposes ( the protection of the health of there customers would justify this). Whether clubs would ever ask for that information or if customers would be prepared to give it is another question though.

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By *ownhouseTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Birkenhead/Liverpool

I doubt clubs will use vaccination status alone to open as it would exclude those who do not want the vaccine and those who can't have it. The vaccines are also not 100% effective.

Clubs will need some kind of reliable and affordable fast testing to open; this has been used in Poland prior to the 2nd wave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

So the question is hypothetical? Because clubs will never ask for that and won’t ever be able to. It would be against data protection protocols to ask if you been vaccinated! "

You have no idea if that's true or not. You already have to ask to see ID so what's the difference?

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks


"I doubt clubs will use vaccination status alone to open as it would exclude those who do not want the vaccine and those who can't have it. The vaccines are also not 100% effective.

Clubs will need some kind of reliable and affordable fast testing to open; this has been used in Poland prior to the 2nd wave. "

As you guys are in the business I would tend to listen to your opinion on the matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stick it in my arm so I can stick willies in my vagine

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

So the question is hypothetical? Because clubs will never ask for that and won’t ever be able to. It would be against data protection protocols to ask if you been vaccinated!

We would be very wary as having a vaccine does not mean you cannot catch or pass on covid. That simple lack of understanding would show us those playing there were not safe partners"

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

So the question is hypothetical? Because clubs will never ask for that and won’t ever be able to. It would be against data protection protocols to ask if you been vaccinated!

It would not be a breach of data protection laws to ask if you had been vaccinated and under GDPR they would be entitled to hold that information as long as it was only used for the intended purposes ( the protection of the health of there customers would justify this). Whether clubs would ever ask for that information or if customers would be prepared to give it is another question though.

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It's going to be required to permit using the services of some businesses. Qantas has signalled its intention to require vaccinations prior to flights. Cyprus is also going to allow vaccinated people to travel there without tests before flights. These charges will involve data requests etc, that will be fall within the GDPR scope. If it's all reasonable, it's appropriate. This OP was hypothetical, as much is in life now and is good to discuss. Few of us would have expected the year that we've had, so some thinking is helpful

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No point in clubs saying vaccinated people only haha.

If you are vaccinated you can still catch the virus and carry it spreading it around, it only protects you that's how vaccines work.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"No point in clubs saying vaccinated people only haha.

If you are vaccinated you can still catch the virus and carry it spreading it around, it only protects you that's how vaccines work."

Then why isn't measles still roaring through our society?

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings


"Just put out a statement that the vaccine increases penis size and every man will have one tomorrow"

And it makes a pussy tighter oh and big tits small and small large lol....

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"No point in clubs saying vaccinated people only haha.

If you are vaccinated you can still catch the virus and carry it spreading it around, it only protects you that's how vaccines work."

Are you sure you understand how vaccines work and how viruses replicate inside the body?

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By *hic EventsWoman
over a year ago

Cambridge


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

So the question is hypothetical? Because clubs will never ask for that and won’t ever be able to. It would be against data protection protocols to ask if you been vaccinated!

You have no idea if that's true or not. You already have to ask to see ID so what's the difference?"

I’ve been around the club industry a long time. These are small ventures and revenue is key! I have spoken to a lot of club owners recently on a similar subject. Mostly have all said it’s not their place to request medical vaccination history and it would start to become a grey area with keeping that data and having to store it up to a certain number of years! Obviously if the government make them ask then they will have to go on. They don’t exactly fall under ‘swingers club’ to open! Pubs, restaurants and supermarkets won’t be asking you and neither will a club owner

Only 32% of the U.K. population agreed they will take it! Also I can’t recall the last time I ever showed ID into a party/event it club - obviously some do ask for it but not many! ID is a bit different to your medical history!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyone willing to take a vaccine that has only taken 8 months to develop, when other vaccines take approx two decades to trial is an absolute idiot.

Clearly these vaccine craving fools do not remember or know anything about Thalidomide.

It's time to wake up people. A vaccine is not going to return things to normal. There will never be another normal. Get used to it.

Distrust the government. Avoid mass media. Fight the lies.

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By *icolerobbieCouple
over a year ago

walsall

Your body, put what you want in it. Don’t tell me what to put in mine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone willing to take a vaccine that has only taken 8 months to develop, when other vaccines take approx two decades to trial is an absolute idiot.

Clearly these vaccine craving fools do not remember or know anything about Thalidomide.

It's time to wake up people. A vaccine is not going to return things to normal. There will never be another normal. Get used to it.

Distrust the government. Avoid mass media. Fight the lies. "

Another one that doesn't understand vaccine trials and how they work.

They can take up to 12 years to develop but are only tested on average for between 1 and 2 years and on roughly the same amount of people that these have been.

If you are going to write this stuff please make sure that you have researched because it's a load of nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

So the question is hypothetical? Because clubs will never ask for that and won’t ever be able to. It would be against data protection protocols to ask if you been vaccinated!

You have no idea if that's true or not. You already have to ask to see ID so what's the difference?

I’ve been around the club industry a long time. These are small ventures and revenue is key! I have spoken to a lot of club owners recently on a similar subject. Mostly have all said it’s not their place to request medical vaccination history and it would start to become a grey area with keeping that data and having to store it up to a certain number of years! Obviously if the government make them ask then they will have to go on. They don’t exactly fall under ‘swingers club’ to open! Pubs, restaurants and supermarkets won’t be asking you and neither will a club owner

Only 32% of the U.K. population agreed they will take it! Also I can’t recall the last time I ever showed ID into a party/event it club - obviously some do ask for it but not many! ID is a bit different to your medical history! "

Really because my understanding is that is the condition of the licence of most clubs so not sure what ones you are going to.

Every club I have ever been too has asked for ID so I don't believe somehow you are an exception.

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Anyone willing to take a vaccine that has only taken 8 months to develop, when other vaccines take approx two decades to trial is an absolute idiot.

Clearly these vaccine craving fools do not remember or know anything about Thalidomide.

It's time to wake up people. A vaccine is not going to return things to normal. There will never be another normal. Get used to it.

Distrust the government. Avoid mass media. Fight the lies. "

These misinformed tropes have been spreading from Karen on facebook, called out for the claptrap that they are. It's assumed you are not involved in scientific research, probably not particularly scientific literate. This is a vaccine, not a drug like the 1 you mentioned, which exposed flaws in government approvals globally. It caused massive changes to those processes, so the system is nothing like what it was all those decades ago. If you disagree with any specific part of the research and development or the 3 trials phases, state specifically what they are, otherwise a its baseless slur, driven from nought.

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By *uvFun69Couple
over a year ago

St. Austell

Well unless any of you are over 70 or aren't fit and healthy you are more likely to die from flu than covid but do you/clubs ask for proof of flu vaccine? Obviously not

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Won’t bother my sex life and I ain’t getting vaccinated

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

MK

Don't care will just get fake documents or claim. It's not hard to fake something

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

It is transmitted through close contact.

Unless you can have a sexual encounter socially distancing.

I'm sure they'll be someone on here who will argue that point,lol."

Well clubs could have glory holes but ones with clear perspex and to be wopes down after use lol

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Warwick


"Well unless any of you are over 70 or aren't fit and healthy you are more likely to die from flu than covid but do you/clubs ask for proof of flu vaccine? Obviously not"

People keep quoting this type of thing without knowing the facts. Our local Health Trust which covers Birmingham and Solihull put out some figures to dispel this myth recently.In summary;

In the last five years they have had less than 20 deaths in under 50 year olds from Flu. In the last nine months they have had nearly 600 deaths in the same age group from COVID. Of those 600 more than 200 had no underlying health conditions.

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Warwick

I noticed today that there is an article in some of the newspapers about the fact that those receiving the vaccination will be provided with proof in the form of a vaccination card. Clearly there it is anticipated that such proof is going to be required going forward.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others? "

It won't.

But as this will never happen as it doesn't stop the spread only reduces it.

They have just found the virus in untreated water system in Australia which now raises some bigger questions.

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

So the question is hypothetical? Because clubs will never ask for that and won’t ever be able to. It would be against data protection protocols to ask if you been vaccinated!

You have no idea if that's true or not. You already have to ask to see ID so what's the difference?

I’ve been around the club industry a long time. These are small ventures and revenue is key! I have spoken to a lot of club owners recently on a similar subject. Mostly have all said it’s not their place to request medical vaccination history and it would start to become a grey area with keeping that data and having to store it up to a certain number of years! Obviously if the government make them ask then they will have to go on. They don’t exactly fall under ‘swingers club’ to open! Pubs, restaurants and supermarkets won’t be asking you and neither will a club owner

Only 32% of the U.K. population agreed they will take it! Also I can’t recall the last time I ever showed ID into a party/event it club - obviously some do ask for it but not many! ID is a bit different to your medical history!

Really because my understanding is that is the condition of the licence of most clubs so not sure what ones you are going to.

Every club I have ever been too has asked for ID so I don't believe somehow you are an exception."

Tbf, I've been to 8 clubs and not had ONE request for ID. It may be a regional thing but I've never produced any form of ID

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I would be fine about it, we have to remember that it is not transmitted sexually tho.

It is transmitted through close contact.

Unless you can have a sexual encounter socially distancing.

I'm sure they'll be someone on here who will argue that point,lol.

Well clubs could have glory holes but ones with clear perspex and to be wopes down after use lol"

Unfortunately, if body contact occurs through an hole, there is risk of transmission of the virus. Whilst the area of bodies in contact may be small - depending on, amongst other things, cock size - it still exists . Aerosol transmissions could be minimised by the screens and good ventilation.

Transparent barriers and ventilation could certainly help to reduce potential infections. If there were areas that were flexible plastic type materials, people could caress another, whilst still being screened.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Anyone willing to take a vaccine that has only taken 8 months to develop, when other vaccines take approx two decades to trial is an absolute idiot.

Clearly these vaccine craving fools do not remember or know anything about Thalidomide.

It's time to wake up people. A vaccine is not going to return things to normal. There will never be another normal. Get used to it.

Distrust the government. Avoid mass media. Fight the lies. "

And I score one point for my first ‘wake up’ this morning ffs

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots. "

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East


"Anyone willing to take a vaccine that has only taken 8 months to develop, when other vaccines take approx two decades to trial is an absolute idiot.

Clearly these vaccine craving fools do not remember or know anything about Thalidomide.

It's time to wake up people. A vaccine is not going to return things to normal. There will never be another normal. Get used to it.

Distrust the government. Avoid mass media. Fight the lies. "

Overall, I agree with you. I wouldn't go that far as calling anyone who takes the vaccine 'an idiot' though. There are valid reasons to get vaccinated, despite the risks.

However, the description 'idiot' may be reserved for those militant pro vaccers who like nazies try to impose forceful vaccination and total surrender of one's will to government, social pressure, bullying, etc.

Your body, your choice. All this war between the camps of pro and anti vaccers are ridiculous and futile.

Stay safe people. Whichever camp you belong to.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?"

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?"

Hey, Magic, I think that she meant it sarcastically

It's sophysm really, but it's quite smart and entertaining.

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it. "

Oh, sugar! You weren't sarcastic at all. But not clear either, so Magic was correct in asking for clarification.

So you say that taking the vaccine comes with risks?

And you say that if one isn't vaccinated, they take no risks whatsoever? Even the risk of infection, illness and death?

Nevermind.

I really liked what I though that you had said, i.e. that the unvaccinated people will be taking all the risks (of becoming ill) while the vaccinated ones will suffer no risks, hence the unvaccinated should be compensated... A sarcastic joke of course.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

Oh, sugar! You weren't sarcastic at all. But not clear either, so Magic was correct in asking for clarification.

So you say that taking the vaccine comes with risks?

And you say that if one isn't vaccinated, they take no risks whatsoever? Even the risk of infection, illness and death?

Nevermind.

I really liked what I though that you had said, i.e. that the unvaccinated people will be taking all the risks (of becoming ill) while the vaccinated ones will suffer no risks, hence the unvaccinated should be compensated... A sarcastic joke of course.

"

Not sarcastic at all once the vaccination is rolled out then herd immunity is the aim no? Therefore the people choosing not to vaccinate have let others take all the risk of the vaccine yet they benefit. The idea of others taking a risk for ME to return to a quality of life is appalling to me. The vaccine is for the good of society if you don’t want that then don’t do it but hey I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I’d done that.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

Of my course any new vaccine comes with risk ... no one in their right mind would assume it’s 100% risk free. The alternative is a life like this and it’s a risk I am prepared to take for my mums generation and for my kids. Those that don’t ... well I think I’ve made my feelings clear.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

The same reason I have a flu jab is to protect those in society that can’t for health reasons to reduce community prevalence of flu. I don’t do it for my personal risk as I have no underlying conditions abs wouldn’t suffer greatly. Same applies here ...

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By *ogloomMan
over a year ago

Levens

I suppose one solution would be to have one of those 'hugging sheets' with a specific hole cut in it slip condom on get gaffer tapped to the sheet then back up a consenting lady onto the wall of plastic sheeting. Best bloke wears a mask too. Vaccine not required but I fir one wouldnt want to be the disinfector afterwards...

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

Oh, sugar! You weren't sarcastic at all. But not clear either, so Magic was correct in asking for clarification.

So you say that taking the vaccine comes with risks?

And you say that if one isn't vaccinated, they take no risks whatsoever? Even the risk of infection, illness and death?

Nevermind.

I really liked what I though that you had said, i.e. that the unvaccinated people will be taking all the risks (of becoming ill) while the vaccinated ones will suffer no risks, hence the unvaccinated should be compensated... A sarcastic joke of course.

Not sarcastic at all once the vaccination is rolled out then herd immunity is the aim no? Therefore the people choosing not to vaccinate have let others take all the risk of the vaccine yet they benefit. The idea of others taking a risk for ME to return to a quality of life is appalling to me. The vaccine is for the good of society if you don’t want that then don’t do it but hey I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I’d done that. "

I may be wrong but I doubt that antivaccers rely on others to protect them from (this particular) virus. If one strongly opposes vaccination, they are prepared to take the personal risk of contracting the virus.

Why would they loudly announce their opposition and distrust and try to persuade society to refuse vaccinations?

If it were the case that if you get vaccinated, I'll be safe without a vaccine in my body, selfish people, as you say they are selfish, would keep quiet about their choices.

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By *hades Of GreyMan
over a year ago

Leeds

I agree with Donald Trump (who he?), we should all inject ourselves with disinfectant (cheap as chips at Tesco), far less dangerous that a rigorously tested vaccine!

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By *ogloomMan
over a year ago

Levens


"I agree with Donald Trump (who he?), we should all inject ourselves with disinfectant (cheap as chips at Tesco), far less dangerous that a rigorously tested vaccine! "

Double up and do both. Belt and braces. One doesn't preclude the other.... oh in fact best take the vaccine first in case the other doesn't work...

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East


"I suppose one solution would be to have one of those 'hugging sheets' with a specific hole cut in it slip condom on get gaffer tapped to the sheet then back up a consenting lady onto the wall of plastic sheeting. Best bloke wears a mask too. Vaccine not required but I fir one wouldnt want to be the disinfector afterwards..."

Many many years ago, I was dreaming of opening a sex club, where patrons meet without skin contact. A very fine fabric,light and almost impossible to feel, but sturdy, separates the individuals. You can go around, or stay in a cubicle/stables, and touch and caress and even shag others risk free. At that time of no covid, I mean. With covid now, perhaps an oxigen mask with supply of sterile air will be best.

But it was an arousing idea then for me!

Who knew a time will come when such an establishment would truly be needed...

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

Oh, sugar! You weren't sarcastic at all. But not clear either, so Magic was correct in asking for clarification.

So you say that taking the vaccine comes with risks?

And you say that if one isn't vaccinated, they take no risks whatsoever? Even the risk of infection, illness and death?

Nevermind.

I really liked what I though that you had said, i.e. that the unvaccinated people will be taking all the risks (of becoming ill) while the vaccinated ones will suffer no risks, hence the unvaccinated should be compensated... A sarcastic joke of course.

Not sarcastic at all once the vaccination is rolled out then herd immunity is the aim no? Therefore the people choosing not to vaccinate have let others take all the risk of the vaccine yet they benefit. The idea of others taking a risk for ME to return to a quality of life is appalling to me. The vaccine is for the good of society if you don’t want that then don’t do it but hey I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I’d done that.

I may be wrong but I doubt that antivaccers rely on others to protect them from (this particular) virus. If one strongly opposes vaccination, they are prepared to take the personal risk of contracting the virus.

Why would they loudly announce their opposition and distrust and try to persuade society to refuse vaccinations?

If it were the case that if you get vaccinated, I'll be safe without a vaccine in my body, selfish people, as you say they are selfish, would keep quiet about their choices. "

The issue isn’t the virus the issue is the vaccine will enable society to return if you choose not to do this you’re not thinking about society - elderly alone, massive increased additional illness and death, kids schooling, businesses failing, houses being lost. - you’re not doing your bit to stop all of that: this is far deeper than just a virus it’s about responsibility within a society. I’m doing everything I can to stop all of the above as quickly as possible and that means having the vaccine, taking the risk.

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton


"Anyone willing to take a vaccine that has only taken 8 months to develop, when other vaccines take approx two decades to trial is an absolute idiot.

Clearly these vaccine craving fools do not remember or know anything about Thalidomide.

It's time to wake up people. A vaccine is not going to return things to normal. There will never be another normal. Get used to it.

Distrust the government. Avoid mass media. Fight the lies.

These misinformed tropes have been spreading from Karen on facebook, called out for the claptrap that they are. It's assumed you are not involved in scientific research, probably not particularly scientific literate. This is a vaccine, not a drug like the 1 you mentioned, which exposed flaws in government approvals globally. It caused massive changes to those processes, so the system is nothing like what it was all those decades ago. If you disagree with any specific part of the research and development or the 3 trials phases, state specifically what they are, otherwise a its baseless slur, driven from nought. "

Thank you for eloquently saying what I was about to say too! Thalidomide was a drug used in pregnancy not a vaccine so it is a moot point

They already had the basis for the vaccination from the previous SARS outbreak so it needed less work plus vaccines usually only have a small group of scientists working on it whereas this has been a global effort

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

Oh and I will be taking the vaccination as I'm an essential worker and we have been told we will be offered it in the new year

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden

I’d just need to wait until it was my tier for a jab.

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By *iss pleasuringWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near

If vac was required and your listed nationally on a public database then I would have one. Otherwise no needles in me thank you

Not till its had several years scientific research

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it. "

You haven't stated what 'all the risks' are? What are these risks?

Those who take the vaccine are not being forced, but are choosing to do so also, a free choice and I don't here anyone saying they shouldn't, so find it strange that pro vaxxers seem to be forcing their choice upon those who choose not too, even in hypothetical illustrated idea as above, nothing less than a form of bullying imo.

On your last point, there are many ways to contribute to society, but not everyone must contribute in the same way. If we are to force others then we loose a valuable part of society by imposition.

If it becomes law then there should be consequences, I would agree, if however it's not then then surely you should respect their choice and respect them as people who can exercise a difference of opinion in making their choice?

I think there's still a lot more that needs to be learnt about this virus. It's already been made clear that having the vaccine won't stop you spreading it as so many seem to subconsciously assume, so many of the reasons above insisting or having it need to be reviewed.

I can have the vaccine and think I'm all right Jack and can fuck anyone because 'Im' safe. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You'll still be a carrier and spreader, if anything because of the thinking you're safe, you'll become more a hazard than someone who hasn't and behaves in a more responsible way.

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By *ab jamesMan
over a year ago

ribble valley


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

Oh, sugar! You weren't sarcastic at all. But not clear either, so Magic was correct in asking for clarification.

So you say that taking the vaccine comes with risks?

And you say that if one isn't vaccinated, they take no risks whatsoever? Even the risk of infection, illness and death?

Nevermind.

I really liked what I though that you had said, i.e. that the unvaccinated people will be taking all the risks (of becoming ill) while the vaccinated ones will suffer no risks, hence the unvaccinated should be compensated... A sarcastic joke of course.

Not sarcastic at all once the vaccination is rolled out then herd immunity is the aim no? Therefore the people choosing not to vaccinate have let others take all the risk of the vaccine yet they benefit. The idea of others taking a risk for ME to return to a quality of life is appalling to me. The vaccine is for the good of society if you don’t want that then don’t do it but hey I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I’d done that.

I may be wrong but I doubt that antivaccers rely on others to protect them from (this particular) virus. If one strongly opposes vaccination, they are prepared to take the personal risk of contracting the virus.

Why would they loudly announce their opposition and distrust and try to persuade society to refuse vaccinations?

If it were the case that if you get vaccinated, I'll be safe without a vaccine in my body, selfish people, as you say they are selfish, would keep quiet about their choices.

The issue isn’t the virus the issue is the vaccine will enable society to return if you choose not to do this you’re not thinking about society - elderly alone, massive increased additional illness and death, kids schooling, businesses failing, houses being lost. - you’re not doing your bit to stop all of that: this is far deeper than just a virus it’s about responsibility within a society. I’m doing everything I can to stop all of the above as quickly as possible and that means having the vaccine, taking the risk. "

This is what the anti-vaxxers don't see. They never will. Its all me, me, me with them. Unless it's for medical reasons, man up and get the vaccine, and try to think about your friends, family, and others in your community.

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By *iss pleasuringWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

You haven't stated what 'all the risks' are? What are these risks?

Those who take the vaccine are not being forced, but are choosing to do so also, a free choice and I don't here anyone saying they shouldn't, so find it strange that pro vaxxers seem to be forcing their choice upon those who choose not too, even in hypothetical illustrated idea as above, nothing less than a form of bullying imo.

On your last point, there are many ways to contribute to society, but not everyone must contribute in the same way. If we are to force others then we loose a valuable part of society by imposition.

If it becomes law then there should be consequences, I would agree, if however it's not then then surely you should respect their choice and respect them as people who can exercise a difference of opinion in making their choice?

I think there's still a lot more that needs to be learnt about this virus. It's already been made clear that having the vaccine won't stop you spreading it as so many seem to subconsciously assume, so many of the reasons above insisting or having it need to be reviewed.

I can have the vaccine and think I'm all right Jack and can fuck anyone because 'Im' safe. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You'll still be a carrier and spreader, if anything because of the thinking you're safe, you'll become more a hazard than someone who hasn't and behaves in a more responsible way.

"

Risks . What about the vaccine itself. These things takes years of research

Pfizer have been given immunity on been sued if anything was to go wrong,,

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

You haven't stated what 'all the risks' are? What are these risks?

Those who take the vaccine are not being forced, but are choosing to do so also, a free choice and I don't here anyone saying they shouldn't, so find it strange that pro vaxxers seem to be forcing their choice upon those who choose not too, even in hypothetical illustrated idea as above, nothing less than a form of bullying imo.

On your last point, there are many ways to contribute to society, but not everyone must contribute in the same way. If we are to force others then we loose a valuable part of society by imposition.

If it becomes law then there should be consequences, I would agree, if however it's not then then surely you should respect their choice and respect them as people who can exercise a difference of opinion in making their choice?

I think there's still a lot more that needs to be learnt about this virus. It's already been made clear that having the vaccine won't stop you spreading it as so many seem to subconsciously assume, so many of the reasons above insisting or having it need to be reviewed.

I can have the vaccine and think I'm all right Jack and can fuck anyone because 'Im' safe. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You'll still be a carrier and spreader, if anything because of the thinking you're safe, you'll become more a hazard than someone who hasn't and behaves in a more responsible way.

"

I disagree with all of your points ... sounds like excuses really.

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By *iss pleasuringWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near

It's not certain that after vac we can return to a normal

Same as boris said after lockdown 1 . He wouldn't lock us down again

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

People saying there taking all the risk having the vaccine what is the risk i thought the vaccine was safe no? I will be having it eventually but im in the last group so who knows when that will be and hey if there is something wrong with it i can choose not to accept seems as i in last group

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

You haven't stated what 'all the risks' are? What are these risks?

Those who take the vaccine are not being forced, but are choosing to do so also, a free choice and I don't here anyone saying they shouldn't, so find it strange that pro vaxxers seem to be forcing their choice upon those who choose not too, even in hypothetical illustrated idea as above, nothing less than a form of bullying imo.

On your last point, there are many ways to contribute to society, but not everyone must contribute in the same way. If we are to force others then we loose a valuable part of society by imposition.

If it becomes law then there should be consequences, I would agree, if however it's not then then surely you should respect their choice and respect them as people who can exercise a difference of opinion in making their choice?

I think there's still a lot more that needs to be learnt about this virus. It's already been made clear that having the vaccine won't stop you spreading it as so many seem to subconsciously assume, so many of the reasons above insisting or having it need to be reviewed.

I can have the vaccine and think I'm all right Jack and can fuck anyone because 'Im' safe. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You'll still be a carrier and spreader, if anything because of the thinking you're safe, you'll become more a hazard than someone who hasn't and behaves in a more responsible way.

"

Someone talking sense at last ! X

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"It's not certain that after vac we can return to a normal

Same as boris said after lockdown 1 . He wouldn't lock us down again

"

Thats true but dont think he allowed for how many fucking stupid people there are out there im not surprised he wants to keep education open.

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By *iss pleasuringWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near


"People saying there taking all the risk having the vaccine what is the risk i thought the vaccine was safe no? I will be having it eventually but im in the last group so who knows when that will be and hey if there is something wrong with it i can choose not to accept seems as i in last group"

What group list is there

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

You haven't stated what 'all the risks' are? What are these risks?

Those who take the vaccine are not being forced, but are choosing to do so also, a free choice and I don't here anyone saying they shouldn't, so find it strange that pro vaxxers seem to be forcing their choice upon those who choose not too, even in hypothetical illustrated idea as above, nothing less than a form of bullying imo.

On your last point, there are many ways to contribute to society, but not everyone must contribute in the same way. If we are to force others then we loose a valuable part of society by imposition.

If it becomes law then there should be consequences, I would agree, if however it's not then then surely you should respect their choice and respect them as people who can exercise a difference of opinion in making their choice?

I think there's still a lot more that needs to be learnt about this virus. It's already been made clear that having the vaccine won't stop you spreading it as so many seem to subconsciously assume, so many of the reasons above insisting or having it need to be reviewed.

I can have the vaccine and think I'm all right Jack and can fuck anyone because 'Im' safe. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You'll still be a carrier and spreader, if anything because of the thinking you're safe, you'll become more a hazard than someone who hasn't and behaves in a more responsible way.

X"

You won’t be a carrier or spreader the vaccine is to create immunological memory in the body so that when you encounter the virus, your immune system attacks the virus very quickly before you get sick. Therefore, the virus will be stopped from replicating in your system pretty quickly, And would limit your ability to spread it to others It could happen, but the risks would be far less than if not vaccinated.

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By *iss pleasuringWoman
over a year ago

Somewhere near

Wow. So many scientists on here

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

I dont have a problem

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By *asmeenTV/TS
over a year ago

STOKE ON TRENT


"Wow. So many scientists on here "

I have a white fur coat

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

You haven't stated what 'all the risks' are? What are these risks?

Those who take the vaccine are not being forced, but are choosing to do so also, a free choice and I don't here anyone saying they shouldn't, so find it strange that pro vaxxers seem to be forcing their choice upon those who choose not too, even in hypothetical illustrated idea as above, nothing less than a form of bullying imo.

On your last point, there are many ways to contribute to society, but not everyone must contribute in the same way. If we are to force others then we loose a valuable part of society by imposition.

If it becomes law then there should be consequences, I would agree, if however it's not then then surely you should respect their choice and respect them as people who can exercise a difference of opinion in making their choice?

I think there's still a lot more that needs to be learnt about this virus. It's already been made clear that having the vaccine won't stop you spreading it as so many seem to subconsciously assume, so many of the reasons above insisting or having it need to be reviewed.

I can have the vaccine and think I'm all right Jack and can fuck anyone because 'Im' safe. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You'll still be a carrier and spreader, if anything because of the thinking you're safe, you'll become more a hazard than someone who hasn't and behaves in a more responsible way.

Risks . What about the vaccine itself. These things takes years of research

Pfizer have been given immunity on been sued if anything was to go wrong,,

"

It’s also the same for all other vaccines. Have a look. Don’t think the covid one is anything special on that front.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

You haven't stated what 'all the risks' are? What are these risks?

Those who take the vaccine are not being forced, but are choosing to do so also, a free choice and I don't here anyone saying they shouldn't, so find it strange that pro vaxxers seem to be forcing their choice upon those who choose not too, even in hypothetical illustrated idea as above, nothing less than a form of bullying imo.

On your last point, there are many ways to contribute to society, but not everyone must contribute in the same way. If we are to force others then we loose a valuable part of society by imposition.

If it becomes law then there should be consequences, I would agree, if however it's not then then surely you should respect their choice and respect them as people who can exercise a difference of opinion in making their choice?

I think there's still a lot more that needs to be learnt about this virus. It's already been made clear that having the vaccine won't stop you spreading it as so many seem to subconsciously assume, so many of the reasons above insisting or having it need to be reviewed.

I can have the vaccine and think I'm all right Jack and can fuck anyone because 'Im' safe. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You'll still be a carrier and spreader, if anything because of the thinking you're safe, you'll become more a hazard than someone who hasn't and behaves in a more responsible way.

X

You won’t be a carrier or spreader the vaccine is to create immunological memory in the body so that when you encounter the virus, your immune system attacks the virus very quickly before you get sick. Therefore, the virus will be stopped from replicating in your system pretty quickly, And would limit your ability to spread it to others It could happen, but the risks would be far less than if not vaccinated."

Would you like to show me where you've heard this?

Even today....

Dr Morgan said this about having the vaccine.

"It doesn't change anything on the ground, we will still have to wear PPE, we will still have to use social distancing, 'hands, face, space', and so on, the same as everybody else in society, so that doesn't change anything," he said.

So please show me where anyone qualified to say otherwise has said to the contrary?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

You haven't stated what 'all the risks' are? What are these risks?

Those who take the vaccine are not being forced, but are choosing to do so also, a free choice and I don't here anyone saying they shouldn't, so find it strange that pro vaxxers seem to be forcing their choice upon those who choose not too, even in hypothetical illustrated idea as above, nothing less than a form of bullying imo.

On your last point, there are many ways to contribute to society, but not everyone must contribute in the same way. If we are to force others then we loose a valuable part of society by imposition.

If it becomes law then there should be consequences, I would agree, if however it's not then then surely you should respect their choice and respect them as people who can exercise a difference of opinion in making their choice?

I think there's still a lot more that needs to be learnt about this virus. It's already been made clear that having the vaccine won't stop you spreading it as so many seem to subconsciously assume, so many of the reasons above insisting or having it need to be reviewed.

I can have the vaccine and think I'm all right Jack and can fuck anyone because 'Im' safe. Sorry to burst your bubble.

You'll still be a carrier and spreader, if anything because of the thinking you're safe, you'll become more a hazard than someone who hasn't and behaves in a more responsible way.

X

You won’t be a carrier or spreader the vaccine is to create immunological memory in the body so that when you encounter the virus, your immune system attacks the virus very quickly before you get sick. Therefore, the virus will be stopped from replicating in your system pretty quickly, And would limit your ability to spread it to others It could happen, but the risks would be far less than if not vaccinated."

Not denying over time at all, my point is you and most others seem to think it immediately makes you safe.

Sorry it doesn't. Your body may be protected but as it's airborn it can and will be transmitted by anyone, vaccinated or not until it has nearly disappeared.

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By *litterbabeWoman
over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.


"Wow. So many scientists on here

I have a white fur coat "

Polar bear?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone willing to take a vaccine that has only taken 8 months to develop, when other vaccines take approx two decades to trial is an absolute idiot.

Clearly these vaccine craving fools do not remember or know anything about Thalidomide.

It's time to wake up people. A vaccine is not going to return things to normal. There will never be another normal. Get used to it.

Distrust the government. Avoid mass media. Fight the lies. "

Thalidomide wasn't a vaccine.

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

Oh, sugar! You weren't sarcastic at all. But not clear either, so Magic was correct in asking for clarification.

So you say that taking the vaccine comes with risks?

And you say that if one isn't vaccinated, they take no risks whatsoever? Even the risk of infection, illness and death?

Nevermind.

I really liked what I though that you had said, i.e. that the unvaccinated people will be taking all the risks (of becoming ill) while the vaccinated ones will suffer no risks, hence the unvaccinated should be compensated... A sarcastic joke of course.

Not sarcastic at all once the vaccination is rolled out then herd immunity is the aim no? Therefore the people choosing not to vaccinate have let others take all the risk of the vaccine yet they benefit. The idea of others taking a risk for ME to return to a quality of life is appalling to me. The vaccine is for the good of society if you don’t want that then don’t do it but hey I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I’d done that.

I may be wrong but I doubt that antivaccers rely on others to protect them from (this particular) virus. If one strongly opposes vaccination, they are prepared to take the personal risk of contracting the virus.

Why would they loudly announce their opposition and distrust and try to persuade society to refuse vaccinations?

If it were the case that if you get vaccinated, I'll be safe without a vaccine in my body, selfish people, as you say they are selfish, would keep quiet about their choices.

The issue isn’t the virus the issue is the vaccine will enable society to return if you choose not to do this you’re not thinking about society - elderly alone, massive increased additional illness and death, kids schooling, businesses failing, houses being lost. - you’re not doing your bit to stop all of that: this is far deeper than just a virus it’s about responsibility within a society. I’m doing everything I can to stop all of the above as quickly as possible and that means having the vaccine, taking the risk. "

What you say still boils down to the virus though...

A bit like don't use plastic bags, so we save the planet. Oh, yeah. We will...

I very much doubt that this vaccine will do as it is expected to return life to normal. Isn't it the case the vaccine doesn't prevent hosting the virus, but, supposedly, prevents the vaccinated person not become ill or be less ill with covid? If so, where's this herd immunity and how my vaccine will protect someone who cannot be vaccinated?

The benefit is fewer people in hospital or dead, which will be remarkable, indeed, but let's see if it works at all.

Because looking at data, it seems many get the virus, few really suffer with it. So why do I need to get vaccinated, if I may cough twice and be over with the virus?

Life is already normal. Living with a virus everywhere, but still normal, if we stop lock downs and regional tiers.

D Trump had it. Old fart, but recovered in no time. They say that he had tons of medicine and a dozen doctors. Alright, however many others around him had the virus too without even going to hospital and recovered. So it wasn't the pills and the doctors that healed him. Neither his ego. It was probably just a mild strain. The one that most people seem to contract worldwide.

Anyway. Stay safe!

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

Oh, sugar! You weren't sarcastic at all. But not clear either, so Magic was correct in asking for clarification.

So you say that taking the vaccine comes with risks?

And you say that if one isn't vaccinated, they take no risks whatsoever? Even the risk of infection, illness and death?

Nevermind.

I really liked what I though that you had said, i.e. that the unvaccinated people will be taking all the risks (of becoming ill) while the vaccinated ones will suffer no risks, hence the unvaccinated should be compensated... A sarcastic joke of course.

Not sarcastic at all once the vaccination is rolled out then herd immunity is the aim no? Therefore the people choosing not to vaccinate have let others take all the risk of the vaccine yet they benefit. The idea of others taking a risk for ME to return to a quality of life is appalling to me. The vaccine is for the good of society if you don’t want that then don’t do it but hey I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I’d done that.

I may be wrong but I doubt that antivaccers rely on others to protect them from (this particular) virus. If one strongly opposes vaccination, they are prepared to take the personal risk of contracting the virus.

Why would they loudly announce their opposition and distrust and try to persuade society to refuse vaccinations?

If it were the case that if you get vaccinated, I'll be safe without a vaccine in my body, selfish people, as you say they are selfish, would keep quiet about their choices.

The issue isn’t the virus the issue is the vaccine will enable society to return if you choose not to do this you’re not thinking about society - elderly alone, massive increased additional illness and death, kids schooling, businesses failing, houses being lost. - you’re not doing your bit to stop all of that: this is far deeper than just a virus it’s about responsibility within a society. I’m doing everything I can to stop all of the above as quickly as possible and that means having the vaccine, taking the risk.

This is what the anti-vaxxers don't see. They never will. Its all me, me, me with them. Unless it's for medical reasons, man up and get the vaccine, and try to think about your friends, family, and others in your community. "

I am personally not an antivaccer, but on your point. You say unless for medical reasons take the vaccine. My medical reason is I'd give a chance to my immunity to fight off the virus than put in chemicals and enginered viruses in my body. I function better smoke, alcohol, drugs and pill free. I only take prescription drugs when I'm very ill and have no other choice but to poison myself with the aim to overcome the decease.

An athlete would say,I'd rather train and compete honestly than inject some performance enhancing drugs to, hopefully, have an advantage in the race.

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By *assage_MusicCouple
over a year ago

South East


"Wow. So many scientists on here "

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By *ophieslut OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

So you're suggesting the person choosing to take the vaccination is imposing consequences bon those who chose not to take it? And what are all these benefits?

I don't follow the logic.

And who are the idiots?

I Thought it clear.. no? Ok I’ll speak clearer..... some people are choosing not to take the vaccine even though they can (ie not medically unable just a ‘choice’) the vaccine means we will be able to return to a pre covid way of life l. These people who refuse are therefore prepared to let others take all the risk while still reaping the rewards that the vaccine will bring ie less restrictions. To me that’s selfish ..... there should be a consequence to that choice - if you’re not prepared to contribute to the return of society then why should you benefit from it.

Oh, sugar! You weren't sarcastic at all. But not clear either, so Magic was correct in asking for clarification.

So you say that taking the vaccine comes with risks?

And you say that if one isn't vaccinated, they take no risks whatsoever? Even the risk of infection, illness and death?

Nevermind.

I really liked what I though that you had said, i.e. that the unvaccinated people will be taking all the risks (of becoming ill) while the vaccinated ones will suffer no risks, hence the unvaccinated should be compensated... A sarcastic joke of course.

Not sarcastic at all once the vaccination is rolled out then herd immunity is the aim no? Therefore the people choosing not to vaccinate have let others take all the risk of the vaccine yet they benefit. The idea of others taking a risk for ME to return to a quality of life is appalling to me. The vaccine is for the good of society if you don’t want that then don’t do it but hey I couldn’t sleep at night knowing I’d done that.

I may be wrong but I doubt that antivaccers rely on others to protect them from (this particular) virus. If one strongly opposes vaccination, they are prepared to take the personal risk of contracting the virus.

Why would they loudly announce their opposition and distrust and try to persuade society to refuse vaccinations?

If it were the case that if you get vaccinated, I'll be safe without a vaccine in my body, selfish people, as you say they are selfish, would keep quiet about their choices.

The issue isn’t the virus the issue is the vaccine will enable society to return if you choose not to do this you’re not thinking about society - elderly alone, massive increased additional illness and death, kids schooling, businesses failing, houses being lost. - you’re not doing your bit to stop all of that: this is far deeper than just a virus it’s about responsibility within a society. I’m doing everything I can to stop all of the above as quickly as possible and that means having the vaccine, taking the risk.

This is what the anti-vaxxers don't see. They never will. Its all me, me, me with them. Unless it's for medical reasons, man up and get the vaccine, and try to think about your friends, family, and others in your community.

I am personally not an antivaccer, but on your point. You say unless for medical reasons take the vaccine. My medical reason is I'd give a chance to my immunity to fight off the virus than put in chemicals and enginered viruses in my body. I function better smoke, alcohol, drugs and pill free. I only take prescription drugs when I'm very ill and have no other choice but to poison myself with the aim to overcome the decease.

An athlete would say,I'd rather train and compete honestly than inject some performance enhancing drugs to, hopefully, have an advantage in the race. "

Most athletes will likely also want to be protected by their vaccinations that they've received through their lives. You compare vaccines to performance enhancing drugs but vaccines for Sars-Cove-2 are more like vitamins, that support the body doing what it does best naturally - they prime our body's immune system with identifiable elements of the virus, so that it creates a lasting immune recognition and response, available should the real virus ever enter our body.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan
over a year ago

Luton

I've no intention of going near a club until I've been vaccinated.

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By *razyhappyguys04Couple
over a year ago

London.

Don't understand, why would they stop non vaccinated people ?? The vaccine does not stop you getting or passing on the virus ??

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By *ent in BlackMan
over a year ago

Silsden


"...

An athlete would say,I'd rather train and compete honestly than inject some performance enhancing drugs to, hopefully, have an advantage in the race. "

Can you explain how a vaccine is anything like a performance enhancing drug? That’s a new one on me.

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By *luttyLaylaWoman
over a year ago

North West


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others? "

Good with me

But only at the point where everyone who wants it can have it

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others? "

It will not change anything

I only use clubs and Fab anyway.

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"How would your sex life and behaviour change, if all swinging services, sites, clubs etc, only allowed vaccinated or officially exempt, to engage with others?

It will not change anything

I only use clubs and Fab anyway."

I can't wait to get vaccinated and genuinely do not understand why anyone would not do so, if it is safe for them to.

Anti vaxxers are dangerous in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Don't understand, why would they stop non vaccinated people ?? The vaccine does not stop you getting or passing on the virus ?? "

^ this

Also, as a lady club owner on here has pointed out, some people are unable to build up antibodies to diseases despite being vaccinated against them. So in theory those people won't be able to attend clubs.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I will wait to be fully vaccinated, wait for sufficient herd immunity, and will prefer to spend my money in places which only allow the vaccinated and the medically exempt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"... so surely if you’re vaccinated then an unvaccinated person is the one at risk? So an unvaccinated person is actually reaping all the benefits of the vaccination without any personal risk - bloody selfish if you ask me. So some kind of consequences should be involved I think - people letting others take all the risk while they also benefit ... idiots.

Wow! x

Why wow? People who choose for others to take the risk on behalf of society are selfish. Are you disputing that fact? Unless there is a valid medical reason for not vaccinating why decline it? It’s for the good of society and we as healthy adults can protect those weaker and more vulnerable by being vaccinated ... anti vaxxers have the right to refuse but if they don’t want to help protect society why should they reap the benefits of it?

I'm not anti vax just not having this one x

Then there needs to be a consequence attached to your choice - to return to pre covid we all have to do our bit. You’re choosing not to

Yes I do I wear my mask I dont meet anyone except at work In supermarket that's a joke lol! I am asthmatic/diabetic and 63 I will abide by any conditions of not having the vaccine and will forfeit a ventilator at end of the day it's my choice x"

in wondering if your position on this has changed now that a few of your family have picked it up at work and you thoughts are wear a mask or stay at home for others safety

have you flipped to get a vaccine or stay at home for others safety?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will wait to be fully vaccinated, wait for sufficient herd immunity, and will prefer to spend my money in places which only allow the vaccinated and the medically exempt."

Are you specifically speaking about swingers club here or all businesses?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I will wait to be fully vaccinated, wait for sufficient herd immunity, and will prefer to spend my money in places which only allow the vaccinated and the medically exempt.

Are you specifically speaking about swingers club here or all businesses?

"

All, including swinging services if any have such requirements.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Wow. So many scientists on here

"

and apparently so many athletes

comments like this are so childish, what it boils down to is your argument ran out of steam because someone else did their research and educated themselves before arguing their point and you never ... trying to put people down for educating themselves is crazy

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Wow. So many scientists on here

and apparently so many athletes

comments like this are so childish, what it boils down to is your argument ran out of steam because someone else did their research and educated themselves before arguing their point and you never ... trying to put people down for educating themselves is crazy "

I'm not a scientist, but I'm a consumer who can spend her money how she chooses.

I also am able to read up on things and find reliable sources *shrug*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will wait to be fully vaccinated, wait for sufficient herd immunity, and will prefer to spend my money in places which only allow the vaccinated and the medically exempt.

Are you specifically speaking about swingers club here or all businesses?

All, including swinging services if any have such requirements."

You're gonna struggle there. I don't disagree with vaccination btw but I certainly will not be asking for proof to enter my business premises. Neither will millions of other businesses.

How will you ever know? Apart from the huge conglomerates who 'announce' it, most small businesses won't say a word and even if they did, I'd put my money on it not being enforce after a period of times.

Just my opinion

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I will wait to be fully vaccinated, wait for sufficient herd immunity, and will prefer to spend my money in places which only allow the vaccinated and the medically exempt.

Are you specifically speaking about swingers club here or all businesses?

All, including swinging services if any have such requirements.

You're gonna struggle there. I don't disagree with vaccination btw but I certainly will not be asking for proof to enter my business premises. Neither will millions of other businesses.

How will you ever know? Apart from the huge conglomerates who 'announce' it, most small businesses won't say a word and even if they did, I'd put my money on it not being enforce after a period of times.

Just my opinion"

If I have a choice between one that enforces it and one that doesn't, I'll choose one that does. If I don't, obviously I won't.

If I don't, I'll make my choices in other ways. Which may also involve a judgement on their stance on public health.

I certainly will not be patronising social spaces before I'm fully vaccinated and it seems herd immunity is at a sufficient level.

I vote with my money, which is my absolute right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will wait to be fully vaccinated, wait for sufficient herd immunity, and will prefer to spend my money in places which only allow the vaccinated and the medically exempt.

Are you specifically speaking about swingers club here or all businesses?

All, including swinging services if any have such requirements.

You're gonna struggle there. I don't disagree with vaccination btw but I certainly will not be asking for proof to enter my business premises. Neither will millions of other businesses.

How will you ever know? Apart from the huge conglomerates who 'announce' it, most small businesses won't say a word and even if they did, I'd put my money on it not being enforce after a period of times.

Just my opinion

If I have a choice between one that enforces it and one that doesn't, I'll choose one that does. If I don't, obviously I won't.

If I don't, I'll make my choices in other ways. Which may also involve a judgement on their stance on public health.

I certainly will not be patronising social spaces before I'm fully vaccinated and it seems herd immunity is at a sufficient level.

I vote with my money, which is my absolute right."

Oh, I agree that it is your right to spend where you choose. Absolutely.

I just don't personally see it's gonna be as easy as some may think to research every companies stance on it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I will wait to be fully vaccinated, wait for sufficient herd immunity, and will prefer to spend my money in places which only allow the vaccinated and the medically exempt.

Are you specifically speaking about swingers club here or all businesses?

All, including swinging services if any have such requirements.

You're gonna struggle there. I don't disagree with vaccination btw but I certainly will not be asking for proof to enter my business premises. Neither will millions of other businesses.

How will you ever know? Apart from the huge conglomerates who 'announce' it, most small businesses won't say a word and even if they did, I'd put my money on it not being enforce after a period of times.

Just my opinion

If I have a choice between one that enforces it and one that doesn't, I'll choose one that does. If I don't, obviously I won't.

If I don't, I'll make my choices in other ways. Which may also involve a judgement on their stance on public health.

I certainly will not be patronising social spaces before I'm fully vaccinated and it seems herd immunity is at a sufficient level.

I vote with my money, which is my absolute right.

Oh, I agree that it is your right to spend where you choose. Absolutely.

I just don't personally see it's gonna be as easy as some may think to research every companies stance on it."

Those who do have a vaccination policy will be upfront about it, and I'll go out of my way to spend my money there.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will wait to be fully vaccinated, wait for sufficient herd immunity, and will prefer to spend my money in places which only allow the vaccinated and the medically exempt.

Are you specifically speaking about swingers club here or all businesses?

All, including swinging services if any have such requirements.

You're gonna struggle there. I don't disagree with vaccination btw but I certainly will not be asking for proof to enter my business premises. Neither will millions of other businesses.

How will you ever know? Apart from the huge conglomerates who 'announce' it, most small businesses won't say a word and even if they did, I'd put my money on it not being enforce after a period of times.

Just my opinion

If I have a choice between one that enforces it and one that doesn't, I'll choose one that does. If I don't, obviously I won't.

If I don't, I'll make my choices in other ways. Which may also involve a judgement on their stance on public health.

I certainly will not be patronising social spaces before I'm fully vaccinated and it seems herd immunity is at a sufficient level.

I vote with my money, which is my absolute right.

Oh, I agree that it is your right to spend where you choose. Absolutely.

I just don't personally see it's gonna be as easy as some may think to research every companies stance on it.

Those who do have a vaccination policy will be upfront about it, and I'll go out of my way to spend my money there."

Good luck. I mean that sincerely.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Thank you.

My next plane trip will be to see my family. Despite it costing more, based on what I've seen so far, I'll be flying Qantas, because they plan to enforce vaccination.

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