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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich

I would expect nothing less from the Chinese government

Apparently the WHO are visiting to reeeeally get to the bottom of it

Lets see how quickly they roll over this time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

"

Beyond understanding the factors that influence way the virus evolved, what reason is there to remember it's geographical origin?

I'm all for keeping facts straight but your 'never forget' comment sounds like the dirty of c thing said about crimes against humanity and genocide etc rather than the somewhat random location of a genetic mutation in a common family of virus'?

Mr

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Australian soldiers murdering Afghan children anyone?

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Australian soldiers murdering Afghan children anyone? "

Is that what started the virus? Or just an atrocity that means we should forgive china's human rights record.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Australian soldiers murdering Afghan children anyone?

Is that what started the virus? Or just an atrocity that means we should forgive china's human rights record. "

Its the latest Chinese "misinformation" campaign. Issuing doctored photographs.

Posted in the context that China cannot be trusted with information.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Australian soldiers murdering Afghan children anyone?

Is that what started the virus? Or just an atrocity that means we should forgive china's human rights record.

Its the latest Chinese "misinformation" campaign. Issuing doctored photographs.

Posted in the context that China cannot be trusted with information. "

Oh I see, I don't know enough about it. And there are some who compare our govt (and yes we are far from perfect) with the Chinese govt in the same breath. What i do know is they don't tolerate dissent or debate or free press. So yes very sceptical of what appears to come from their state machine. I can say that here... (I think? Without a knock on the door) I wouldn't be permitted to say the same thing over there.

We are all guilty of supporting the regime though... All those black Friday and mad Monday amazon deals for Chinese manufactured products and "stuff".

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By *armandwet50Couple
over a year ago

Far far away


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Beyond understanding the factors that influence way the virus evolved, what reason is there to remember it's geographical origin?

I'm all for keeping facts straight but your 'never forget' comment sounds like the dirty of c thing said about crimes against humanity and genocide etc rather than the somewhat random location of a genetic mutation in a common family of virus'?

Mr"

Some govt have already mentioned wanting reparations for the impact on the economy and the costs incurred.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Beyond understanding the factors that influence way the virus evolved, what reason is there to remember it's geographical origin?

I'm all for keeping facts straight but your 'never forget' comment sounds like the dirty of c thing said about crimes against humanity and genocide etc rather than the somewhat random location of a genetic mutation in a common family of virus'?

Mr

Some govt have already mentioned wanting reparations for the impact on the economy and the costs incurred."

Well whether this was deliberate or otherwise. It certainly gives an exa. Pke of what future wars might look like. One's without foot soldiers and army's but tiny organisms that we inflict and spread ourselves with uncontrollable economic and social consequences... Genius James bond plot if true... Images of baddie stroking and cradling long white haired pussy

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Focus on what ee can learn and helps.. Citizens everywhere are subject to propaganda, it's life

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Beyond understanding the factors that influence way the virus evolved, what reason is there to remember it's geographical origin?

I'm all for keeping facts straight but your 'never forget' comment sounds like the dirty of c thing said about crimes against humanity and genocide etc rather than the somewhat random location of a genetic mutation in a common family of virus'?

Mr

Some govt have already mentioned wanting reparations for the impact on the economy and the costs incurred."

The only thing anyone can complain about is a potential hiding of the facts in the early days. Unless it can be shown that the virus was man made (and pretty much everyone who understands what they're talking about agrees it wasn't) then where it first occurred is totally irrelevant and trying to blame the local population or the national government is frankly childish and ridiculous.

Given the almost total lack of preparation many countries took even when we did know how serious it was, I think blaming the Chinese for withholding info is blatantly hypocritical.

The only people making claims that somehow China is responsible are those for whom it is habitual to see a persons worth and their level of guilt in terms of their ethnicity/nationality. Sadly, such ideology resonates well with many. Its always simpler to be able to point the finger at someone else, particularly if they have different colour skin or come from somewhere that is already perceived to be full of enemies.

Mr

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By *etro1940sCouple
over a year ago

Kingston upon Thames

Important to consider how persuasive the argument is regarding the PRC's poor initial response and its natural top down authoritarian governance. Free societies are often beset by incompetence and poor leadership. However authoritarian societies can hide these facts from their citizens and outsiders effectively. PRC regime does not deserve "free pass" on this pandemic.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Beyond understanding the factors that influence way the virus evolved, what reason is there to remember it's geographical origin?

I'm all for keeping facts straight but your 'never forget' comment sounds like the dirty of c thing said about crimes against humanity and genocide etc rather than the somewhat random location of a genetic mutation in a common family of virus'?

Mr

Some govt have already mentioned wanting reparations for the impact on the economy and the costs incurred.

The only thing anyone can complain about is a potential hiding of the facts in the early days. Unless it can be shown that the virus was man made (and pretty much everyone who understands what they're talking about agrees it wasn't) then where it first occurred is totally irrelevant and trying to blame the local population or the national government is frankly childish and ridiculous.

Given the almost total lack of preparation many countries took even when we did know how serious it was, I think blaming the Chinese for withholding info is blatantly hypocritical.

The only people making claims that somehow China is responsible are those for whom it is habitual to see a persons worth and their level of guilt in terms of their ethnicity/nationality. Sadly, such ideology resonates well with many. Its always simpler to be able to point the finger at someone else, particularly if they have different colour skin or come from somewhere that is already perceived to be full of enemies.

Mr"

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"... Genius James bond plot if true... Images of baddie stroking and cradling long white haired pussy "

Wrong thread

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By *reampie_vickyTV/TS
over a year ago

Wigan


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

"

Well everything they are doing now is learned and copied from all western governments, oh be nice to China as they will very soon be the worlds only superpower and they already make everything the rest if the world needs.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Well everything they are doing now is learned and copied from all western governments, oh be nice to China as they will very soon be the worlds only superpower and they already make everything the rest if the world needs."

And as they also own a lot of the world’s debt

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Beyond understanding the factors that influence way the virus evolved, what reason is there to remember it's geographical origin?

I'm all for keeping facts straight but your 'never forget' comment sounds like the dirty of c thing said about crimes against humanity and genocide etc rather than the somewhat random location of a genetic mutation in a common family of virus'?

Mr

Some govt have already mentioned wanting reparations for the impact on the economy and the costs incurred.

The only thing anyone can complain about is a potential hiding of the facts in the early days. Unless it can be shown that the virus was man made (and pretty much everyone who understands what they're talking about agrees it wasn't) then where it first occurred is totally irrelevant and trying to blame the local population or the national government is frankly childish and ridiculous.

Given the almost total lack of preparation many countries took even when we did know how serious it was, I think blaming the Chinese for withholding info is blatantly hypocritical.

The only people making claims that somehow China is responsible are those for whom it is habitual to see a persons worth and their level of guilt in terms of their ethnicity/nationality. Sadly, such ideology resonates well with many. Its always simpler to be able to point the finger at someone else, particularly if they have different colour skin or come from somewhere that is already perceived to be full of enemies.

Mr"

Erm I think you're only person making it about ethnicity, the issue people have is with the Chineses Government. You know, the same government that saw fit to ground internal flights but allowed international ones to continue to leave China

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By *amish SMan
over a year ago

Eastleigh

Of course there is no problem in China, they need to sort out the mess they are in.

Working in manufacturing, I notice the shortages in base material and its getting worse.

They are currently suffering like the rest of the world.

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"Of course there is no problem in China, they need to sort out the mess they are in.

Working in manufacturing, I notice the shortages in base material and its getting worse.

They are currently suffering like the rest of the world. "

Are they though? Husband has a Chinese manufacturing plant within his group. Last week he was told they don't need to wear a mask in the workplace, or social distance or have proper ventilation. When asked how they are able to not do these things he was simply told that they no longer need to. When pressed further and asked to share what they have learnt and why they're not implementing the things other factories do the response was 'I can't'. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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By *ovelybumCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells

China is pointing a fat middle finger to the Western World.

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By *adetMan
over a year ago

South of Ipswich


"China is pointing a fat middle finger to the Western World.

"

That's exactly what they're doing. Unbelievable that people will still defend the Chinese government

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Well everything they are doing now is learned and copied from all western governments, oh be nice to China as they will very soon be the worlds only superpower and they already make everything the rest if the world needs.

And as they also own a lot of the world’s debt "

So why do we keep buying stuff from there? Switch where you buy from and do what we can.

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By *ovelybumCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Well everything they are doing now is learned and copied from all western governments, oh be nice to China as they will very soon be the worlds only superpower and they already make everything the rest if the world needs.

And as they also own a lot of the world’s debt

So why do we keep buying stuff from there? Switch where you buy from and do what we can. "

Good luck with that!

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By *ocusMan
over a year ago

Cambridge

Although the first cases were identified in Wuhan the source was meat imported from S. America.

Like Spanish Flu. The first cases were identified in the US but Spain was the main country to first admit a pandemic.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Well everything they are doing now is learned and copied from all western governments, oh be nice to China as they will very soon be the worlds only superpower and they already make everything the rest if the world needs.

And as they also own a lot of the world’s debt

So why do we keep buying stuff from there? Switch where you buy from and do what we can.

Good luck with that! "

Fair point. But I'd say.. Stop moaning about how ubiquitous and powerful China are becoming... And yet continue putting money into their economy rather than our own.

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By *ovelybumCouple
over a year ago

Tunbridge Wells


"Disturbing news from China.

It seem that China are trying to rewrite the origin of the Virus in a futile attempt to place blame on foreign imports into their country.

They have been placing false stories in their press, and false medical papers to create a link to somewhere else.

Better get prepared for when this hogwash is circulating through the media.

Remeber folks it was Wuhan China, never forget!

Well everything they are doing now is learned and copied from all western governments, oh be nice to China as they will very soon be the worlds only superpower and they already make everything the rest if the world needs.

And as they also own a lot of the world’s debt

So why do we keep buying stuff from there? Switch where you buy from and do what we can.

Good luck with that!

Fair point. But I'd say.. Stop moaning about how ubiquitous and powerful China are becoming... And yet continue putting money into their economy rather than our own. "

If only was that easy

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Although the first cases were identified in Wuhan the source was meat imported from S. America.

Like Spanish Flu. The first cases were identified in the US but Spain was the main country to first admit a pandemic."

Tsk tsk, thats the false story being peddled.

The PRC know they are responsible.

And to the person who claimed it some racial thing, I beg to differ, if this outbreak happened in the UK first then I would be saying the same thing about the UK.

The Government is still communist and likes to suppress information, ask Winnie the Pooh.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How do you cripple countries without technically going to war? Introduce a virus because they know democratic countries will take the brunt of the damage caused. Economic and socially.

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