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By *usybee73 OP   Man
over a year ago

in the sticks

so if in tier one, you can go to the pub for a pint/drink .... if your in tier 2 you can still go to the pub for a pint/drink but have to eat a substantial meal

so is the substantial meal the new cure of covid? does the virus look around and think hes having a meal, cant infect him.

whats classed as substantial meal? sausage roll and chips? sandwich? pork pie? or have to have the full 3 courses?

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By *usybee73 OP   Man
over a year ago

in the sticks

found a link ...

as others are confused with at well, though do like the thought of ordering a bowl of soup and using a fork.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8993709/Punters-told-leave-Tier-2-pubs-finish-meal.html

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By *ablo minibar123Woman
over a year ago

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I'd class a substantial meal to be anything more than bar snacks, so yeah I'd say a sandwich is fine. Just make it last as apparently as soon as you've finished there should be no hanging around

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

Totally nuts and makes no sense whatsoever.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up

Dont get that option as I'm in Tier 3... thankfully my local pub does amazing takeaway that I shall continue to support. X

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By *usybee73 OP   Man
over a year ago

in the sticks


"I'd class a substantial meal to be anything more than bar snacks, so yeah I'd say a sandwich is fine. Just make it last as apparently as soon as you've finished there should be no hanging around "

eat every crumb with toothpick lol i feel sorry for the staff who will have to police this nonsense

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

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By *ookMan
over a year ago

london

I am so bored of gibberish rules and regulations now... the new government saying should be ‘use your fucking common sense everybody’

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

Course control hasn’t gone to the establishments head ?

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex

I think you have to look beyond the minuscule and look at the reasoning. it's meant to be pubs and restaurants serving meals in a covid safe manner with alcohol being a beverage choice . Not lots of people standing at a bar pretending a packet of crisps is a meal.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

In tier three I can sit on a totally full aeroplane for 5 hours to the Canaries but I can't sit in a socially distanced cinema or theatre for 2 hours.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"I think you have to look beyond the minuscule and look at the reasoning. it's meant to be pubs and restaurants serving meals in a covid safe manner with alcohol being a beverage choice . Not lots of people standing at a bar pretending a packet of crisps is a meal. "

When Leeds pubs could open before lockdown it was table service only, even if you were just having a drink. No standing at the bar or ordering at the bar.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

I think they should use sit down table time slots regardless of a meal or just drinks, I know demographics limit space, but to have time slots like they have in a restaurant have anyway, that would be clearer. So you go in and sit at the table and you have 30 mins for example before you have to vacate the premises, whether you order a pint or a sandwich it doesn't matter.

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By *ittleMissCaliWoman
over a year ago

all loved up


"I think they should use sit down table time slots regardless of a meal or just drinks, I know demographics limit space, but to have time slots like they have in a restaurant have anyway, that would be clearer. So you go in and sit at the table and you have 30 mins for example before you have to vacate the premises, whether you order a pint or a sandwich it doesn't matter."
would need longer than that for food but I agree that the basic idea would work better x

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

That is what we did in Leeds before lockdown. Each pub had an app and you prebooked a one or two hour slot. You could also pre order your drinks so they were waiting on your table.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol

Its not really rocket science is it!

A drink with a meal is just that.

If you were going out for a meal it would not be a fucking sandwich would it!

Either people are just being sarcastic or just looking for any way around the rules thay can just so they can have a drink

It seems the only thing we brits are good at these days is moaning about our lot at the moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I am so bored of gibberish rules and regulations now... the new government saying should be ‘use your fucking common sense everybody’ "

You would think it possible but posts like these clearly demonstrate it isn't possible.

Many need to realise just because they don't understand doesn't mean the rules don't make sense.

Nit picking and not looking at reasons for different tiers, nor understand basics of being responsible towards others and looking out to their best interests instead of being selfish and trying to get around the rules is a primary reason it's not possible.

One fact many seem to not comprehend is that one area may have lower cases but in a higher tier than the next area with higher cases. This is primarily to do with the over 60 population age and the NHS services for a particular area.

With a high age bracket and lower NHS service the area would be seen a higher risk if the numbers suddenly started to rise even if much lower than another area.

Hope that helps to explain it a bit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its not really rocket science is it!

A drink with a meal is just that.

If you were going out for a meal it would not be a fucking sandwich would it!

Either people are just being sarcastic or just looking for any way around the rules thay can just so they can have a drink

It seems the only thing we brits are good at these days is moaning about our lot at the moment "

Tbh I think we have a bigger drink problem in the UK far bigger than we imagined. The mentality that's it's a essential right is beyond me.

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By *eorge JetsonMan
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Adults eat quicker than kids.....

Discuss...

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By *9089Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is. "

If you are really pedantic, a real Cornish pasty would be eaten in Cornwall. They will be in tier 1 so it doesn't matter what you eat it with as the pubs can serve drinks until 10.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"In tier three I can sit on a totally full aeroplane for 5 hours to the Canaries but I can't sit in a socially distanced cinema or theatre for 2 hours. "

You've been tested negative before boarding the plane ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd class a substantial meal to be anything more than bar snacks, so yeah I'd say a sandwich is fine. Just make it last as apparently as soon as you've finished there should be no hanging around

eat every crumb with toothpick lol i feel sorry for the staff who will have to police this nonsense"

Or better still, order it and don't eat it out of principal.

Just enjoy your drinks

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"I am so bored of gibberish rules and regulations now... the new government saying should be ‘use your fucking common sense everybody’ "

Lol have you read some of the posts

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


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You've been tested negative before boarding the plane ?"

Good point

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"I am so bored of gibberish rules and regulations now... the new government saying should be ‘use your fucking common sense everybody’

You would think it possible but posts like these clearly demonstrate it isn't possible.

Many need to realise just because they don't understand doesn't mean the rules don't make sense.

Nit picking and not looking at reasons for different tiers, nor understand basics of being responsible towards others and looking out to their best interests instead of being selfish and trying to get around the rules is a primary reason it's not possible.

One fact many seem to not comprehend is that one area may have lower cases but in a higher tier than the next area with higher cases. This is primarily to do with the over 60 population age and the NHS services for a particular area.

With a high age bracket and lower NHS service the area would be seen a higher risk if the numbers suddenly started to rise even if much lower than another area.

Hope that helps to explain it a bit."

Precisely, the recommendations allow pubs to open in a reasonably safe manner, if people ignore them then the pubs will close and the covidiots will win again.

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands

So its safer to have a rolling door of people coming in for food. You could end up having, say 6 couples using one table during the afternoon/evening, but having one couple sat there quietly having a nice day out for a drink or 4 is more of a risk. What a crock of shite

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"the recommendations allow pubs to open in a reasonably safe manner, if people ignore them then the pubs will close and the covidiots will win again."

In 42% of England the pubs are closed.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

The rules about meals, are put in place, so that those without the means to cook, can go out and get hot food.

The amount of alcholol served has to be consumate with the size of the meal.

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"I think they should use sit down table time slots regardless of a meal or just drinks, I know demographics limit space, but to have time slots like they have in a restaurant have anyway, that would be clearer. So you go in and sit at the table and you have 30 mins for example before you have to vacate the premises, whether you order a pint or a sandwich it doesn't matter."

Can you say where it actually says a time limit or a quantity limit please as this was looked into on the old tier 3 and the council, MP and the advisors said there is no limit on time.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

If they'd just shut the pubs down completely that would have been wrong as well.

It's very easy to criticise decisions that you don't have to make.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"If they'd just shut the pubs down completely that would have been wrong as well.

It's very easy to criticise decisions that you don't have to make."

But it's right for the public to criticise and question otherwise we would be living in a dictatorship.

In this case, it's important to question why seeing as how the rules appear (to a layman at least) to be incoherent and nonsensical. At least if pubs were closed via blanket ban there would be some consistency which this policy lacks.

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

If you are really pedantic, a real Cornish pasty would be eaten in Cornwall. They will be in tier 1 so it doesn't matter what you eat it with as the pubs can serve drinks until 10. "

Nope, if you're being pedantic then it's the pastie that's made in Cornwall not specifically eaten there, much the same as Melton Mowbray pies, Eccles cakes, pontefract cakes, champagne. Some have to be made within a region to qualify they're name but don't have to be consumed there

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"The rules about meals, are put in place, so that those without the means to cook, can go out and get hot food.

The amount of alcholol served has to be consumate with the size of the meal. "

Where does it say that please?

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is. "

A proper Cornish Pasty made by a proper Cornish baker in Cornwall is definitely substantial! It takes a special kind of Westminster idiot to rule that a lettuce leaf and a cherry tomato are the vital ingredients for "substantial".

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

A proper Cornish Pasty made by a proper Cornish baker in Cornwall is definitely substantial! It takes a special kind of Westminster idiot to rule that a lettuce leaf and a cherry tomato are the vital ingredients for "substantial"."

The Baker doesn't have to be Cornish by birth or good for that matter.

The traditional Cornish pasty, which since 2011 has Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) status in Europe,[2] is filled with beef, sliced or diced potato, swede (also known as yellow turnip or rutabaga – referred to in Cornwall as turnip) and onion, seasoned with salt and pepper, and baked. Today, the pasty is the food most associated with Cornwall. It is regarded as the national dish and accounts for 6% of the Cornish food economy. Pasties with many different fillings are made and some shops specialise in selling all sorts of pasties.

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By *udistcpl1Couple
over a year ago

Wirral

Please can somebody say what compensation the pubs are actually getting if they are in tier 3? Does anybody actually know?

Also, has anybody else noticed this. Before covid, we had noticed that pubs were disappearing and many appeared to have reduced their opening hours. Is covid simply speeding up the closure of thousands of pubs and shops also?

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"Please can somebody say what compensation the pubs are actually getting if they are in tier 3? Does anybody actually know?

Also, has anybody else noticed this. Before covid, we had noticed that pubs were disappearing and many appeared to have reduced their opening hours. Is covid simply speeding up the closure of thousands of pubs and shops also?"
ON the radio a restaurant owner of 8 in the Birmingham area said he was getting 15 per cent off the Government of his usual income ,he said he expects only 30 per cent will survive this if it continues past April

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The problem is that most people need rules, it makes them feel safe to know they are there, however most don't like rules because it constrains them and removes what they see as their given rights. So when a rule is given many look for ways around it just like little children, who don't underst the rules are there to help them as they aren't able to make good judgements for themselves. The problem with rules is many are just pedantic about the rule and so more rules are needed to help those who think this way.

Be mature and look at the principal behind the rule and you'll not need so many rules.

Raised my kids on principles and you don't need many for them to live respectfully of others and in turn be respected. Turned out much easier than friends who had rules upon rules and whose kids weren't taught to think but rather just obey.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

20 branches of All Bar One and Toby Carvery to close losing 1300 jobs

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is. "

I thought the whole point of a Cornish pasty was that it WAS a complete meal?

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"20 branches of All Bar One and Toby Carvery to close losing 1300 jobs"

Sadly more and more will close and loose jobs untill people start to be more respectful of others and restrict their actives to ways that reduce or eliminate the spread. Then things will improve, till then it's the people not any government that is not helping to stop the spread. However this just goes against what people think is their own personal right, to do what they want and middle finger up to anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

I thought the whole point of a Cornish pasty was that it WAS a complete meal?

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People eat far more than a Cornish pasty now for a meal. You'd need three at least

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's difficult for the pubs as they don't want to pay to open, staffing costs, food supplies etc, if they are serving anything inappropriately, to then get fined.

It would have been better if the government had said something like an item with salad, or 2 vegetables etc. The cornish pasty was the famous example talked about before.

If people are at tables, served at tables, as before, they are all responsible and should be permitted.

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By *usybee73 OP   Man
over a year ago

in the sticks


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it."

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it

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By *ap d agde coupleCouple
over a year ago

Broadstairs


"20 branches of All Bar One and Toby Carvery to close losing 1300 jobs"
It’s going to be Carnage on the jobs front this is only the beginning, £2.8 Trillion in debt by the end of this ,£46 billion in either tax rises or cuts or both ,worst downturn in 300 years going to be very interesting

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

I thought the whole point of a Cornish pasty was that it WAS a complete meal?

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Not at all. It states 'substantial' meal not 'complete' meal. The government decided that something akin to a pasty and salad is classed as a 'substantial' meal

The thought behind it (I believe) is that crisps, nuts, pork scratchings aren't.

I'm assuming (and I stand to be corrected) that the pasty could be substituted for a pie such as meat pie or meat and potato or chicken pie etc. It is not specifically a pasty and I'm glad because I don't particularly like pasties

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lol - so many FS experts on covid - and the vast majority clearly know nothing. It's hilarious reading some of the shite on here. It's obvious why there is the "substantial meal" rule - if only you stop to think a lkittle before hitting your keyboard.

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it "

It does say that serves a substantial meal. It doesn't actually say you have to eat it

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By *dsindyTV/TS
over a year ago

East Lancashire


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

I thought the whole point of a Cornish pasty was that it WAS a complete meal?

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If i recall my history, an original Cornish Pasty composed of a pastry with (please don't laugh) two large knobs at the end, with a filling at one end containing meat and veg, and a filling at the other end containing something sweet (usually jam). The knobs were to hold the pastry with dirty hands and you threw them away after you ate the two sides....they were made for the Cornish tin miners back when they mined tin.

Disclaimer.....I could be totally wrong.

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By *lan157Man
over a year ago

a village near Haywards Heath in East Sussex


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it

It does say that serves a substantial meal. It doesn't actually say you have to eat it "

Why would you go to a restaurant or pub to sit with 5 friends and order a meal you did not intend to eat . ? Maybe you had eaten at home already ? How is that going to help save the hospitality industry?

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By *adame 2SwordsWoman
over a year ago

Victoria, London

Why moan, just enjoy a meal out

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"In tier three I can sit on a totally full aeroplane for 5 hours to the Canaries but I can't sit in a socially distanced cinema or theatre for 2 hours. "
but in tier 3 you are not supposed to travel to the airport... lol

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Strange the ways people look at working round the rules. Theres almost an industry now, a bizarre pride being taken in how to dodge the rules. It's not complicated. Just stop spreading the virus. The sooner we stop, the sooner we get our lives back and can start repairing the damage.

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By *usybee73 OP   Man
over a year ago

in the sticks


"Why moan, just enjoy a meal out"

wonder how regularly the chef/waiting staff get tested

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By *nglander2000Man
over a year ago

NORTHAMPTON NEAR M1 JCN 15A

Gawd - there are some thickoes on here

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"but in tier 3 you are not supposed to travel to the airport... lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Gawd - there are some thickoes on here "

Correct - I think there's a market out there for an "intelligent fab swingers" whereby you have to take an IQ test before you join. I`m sick of seeing people writing things like "Come to are house" or "We should of done this earlier in life". Seems many didn't even go to bloody school - I despair.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In tier three I can sit on a totally full aeroplane for 5 hours to the Canaries but I can't sit in a socially distanced cinema or theatre for 2 hours. but in tier 3 you are not supposed to travel to the airport... lol

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Current advice is not to travel abroad in all tiers.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Totally nuts and makes no sense whatsoever. "

Nuts won't be a substantial meal

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

Current advice is not to travel abroad in all tiers."

Yes this is current advice but this advice changes on December 2nd to "travel abroad from any tier is permitted so long as you go directly to the airport".

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it

It does say that serves a substantial meal. It doesn't actually say you have to eat it

Why would you go to a restaurant or pub to sit with 5 friends and order a meal you did not intend to eat . ? Maybe you had eaten at home already ? How is that going to help save the hospitality industry? "

As good as keeping them closed. On the previous local tier 3, 2 people ordered the cheese board and had drinks. Fully compliant

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"In tier three I can sit on a totally full aeroplane for 5 hours to the Canaries but I can't sit in a socially distanced cinema or theatre for 2 hours. but in tier 3 you are not supposed to travel to the airport... lol

"

Oh but you can.

You can also travel through a tier 3 area as part of a longer journey to get to somewhere, including if you're catching a flight from an airport in tier 3. However, accommodation such as hotels, B&Bs, campsites, and guest houses have been ordered to close in tier 3 areas, barring a very small amount of exemptions.

Not to you personally but this is why there seems lack of clarity. Read the rules, regulations and law rather than rumour, speculation and 'mates'

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By *9089Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"

Current advice is not to travel abroad in all tiers.

Yes this is current advice but this advice changes on December 2nd to "travel abroad from any tier is permitted so long as you go directly to the airport". "

That was my intention but unfortunately I had an email from jet2 yesterday saying my impending holiday was cancelled

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By *pmsldCouple
over a year ago

kettering


"Please can somebody say what compensation the pubs are actually getting if they are in tier 3? Does anybody actually know?

Also, has anybody else noticed this. Before covid, we had noticed that pubs were disappearing and many appeared to have reduced their opening hours. Is covid simply speeding up the closure of thousands of pubs and shops also?"

My thought aswell, take the toby carvery for example, when was the last time you saw them open a new toby ? All I've seen in recent years is closure or rebranding to the miller&carter brand which they own aswell. Hardly the sign of a growing business. I think they are leaving the buffet behind to concentrate on the other brands and cutting off the dead wood before it causes a problem for them. The same goes for the high street stores, they have been slowly losing the battle against online sales for years all covid has done is speed up the process.. cash is also rapidly being left behind.

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

My local pub does a very basic menu Sausage and chips or pukka pie and chips served from 12.00 - 6.00 pm or 9.00 pm he has however decided to remain closed I am guessing that he doesn’t really sell a lot of these meals do not maybe not worth his while or these are not classed as a substantial meal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it

It does say that serves a substantial meal. It doesn't actually say you have to eat it

Why would you go to a restaurant or pub to sit with 5 friends and order a meal you did not intend to eat . ? Maybe you had eaten at home already ? How is that going to help save the hospitality industry? "

To get around the rules... simple. Plain idiocy.

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it

It does say that serves a substantial meal. It doesn't actually say you have to eat it

Why would you go to a restaurant or pub to sit with 5 friends and order a meal you did not intend to eat . ? Maybe you had eaten at home already ? How is that going to help save the hospitality industry?

To get around the rules... simple. Plain idiocy."

There's a diffence between getting around the rules and complying with the rules.

If people have a problem with their local pub or indeed any premises now serving a substantial meal so that they can also operate legally, don't go. Simples.

Nowhere does it say that you have to go to a pub or premises that serves alcohol. To comply with the rules, regulations and law, then serving a substantial meal allows opening then why not? It helps a lot of people and the hospitality industry

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"My local pub does a very basic menu Sausage and chips or pukka pie and chips served from 12.00 - 6.00 pm or 9.00 pm he has however decided to remain closed I am guessing that he doesn’t really sell a lot of these meals do not maybe not worth his while or these are not classed as a substantial meal."

Yes according to the government, those would be classed as substantial meals

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

It’s the British way to argue and disagree with everything. Govt late to the party on lockdown, some MPs flouting it themselves and making a political not health choice to allow ppl to mix at Christmas to undo the reduction in transmission which has protected the vulnerable.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"My local pub does a very basic menu Sausage and chips or pukka pie and chips served from 12.00 - 6.00 pm or 9.00 pm he has however decided to remain closed I am guessing that he doesn’t really sell a lot of these meals do not maybe not worth his while or these are not classed as a substantial meal.

Yes according to the government, those would be classed as substantial meals"

If Bury is tier 3 he could only open as a takeaway

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

unfortunately I had an email from jet2 yesterday saying my impending holiday was cancelled"

Where were you hoping to go and when ?

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By *9089Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"

unfortunately I had an email from jet2 yesterday saying my impending holiday was cancelled

Where were you hoping to go and when ?"

Turkey next weekend. I am getting used to cancellations, had a few already this year

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton


"My local pub does a very basic menu Sausage and chips or pukka pie and chips served from 12.00 - 6.00 pm or 9.00 pm he has however decided to remain closed I am guessing that he doesn’t really sell a lot of these meals do not maybe not worth his while or these are not classed as a substantial meal.

Yes according to the government, those would be classed as substantial meals"
. Probably not worth his while then.It’s a shame for me as I would have gone tomorrow at about 2.00 had a meal a couple of bottles of kopperberg cider and watched the Man Utd game

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We can all agree or disagree with teirs but they are here for long time yet like it or not hopefully in summer things my improve

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

They don't have to be told what a substantial meal is in Sweden ..

Just saying.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it

It does say that serves a substantial meal. It doesn't actually say you have to eat it

Why would you go to a restaurant or pub to sit with 5 friends and order a meal you did not intend to eat . ? Maybe you had eaten at home already ? How is that going to help save the hospitality industry?

To get around the rules... simple. Plain idiocy.

There's a diffence between getting around the rules and complying with the rules.

If people have a problem with their local pub or indeed any premises now serving a substantial meal so that they can also operate legally, don't go. Simples.

Nowhere does it say that you have to go to a pub or premises that serves alcohol. To comply with the rules, regulations and law, then serving a substantial meal allows opening then why not? It helps a lot of people and the hospitality industry "

Let's not lose sight of the reason we have restrictions. To stop spreading the infection. We are adults, we have brains, we can work out how to avoid spreading it. Stronger together

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"They don't have to be told what a substantial meal is in Sweden ..

Just saying."

Betydande måltid.... Just saying!

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"

Let's not lose sight of the reason we have restrictions. To stop spreading the infection. We are adults, we have brains, we can work out how to avoid spreading it. Stronger together "

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen

Pickle egg and a bag of crips and your fine!

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

Turkey next weekend. I am getting used to cancellations, had a few already this year"

So sorry to hear this. I was lucky to get to Turkey late August

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My local pub does a very basic menu Sausage and chips or pukka pie and chips served from 12.00 - 6.00 pm or 9.00 pm he has however decided to remain closed I am guessing that he doesn’t really sell a lot of these meals do not maybe not worth his while or these are not classed as a substantial meal.

Yes according to the government, those would be classed as substantial meals. Probably not worth his while then.It’s a shame for me as I would have gone tomorrow at about 2.00 had a meal a couple of bottles of kopperberg cider and watched the Man Utd game"

The tiers don’t come into effect until the lockdown is over so the pub couldn’t open tomorrow anyway

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally, I always knew it would all end in tiers

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Personally, I always knew it would all end in tiers"

Round of applause!

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By *uadzillaMan
over a year ago

Warwickshire

I agree it's ridiculous, I work as a chef so what constitutes a substantial meal.

If you were to look at a menu and see light bites or say sandwiches, baguettes etc these would not be substantial however if you order chips, onion rings or wedges with that it would be. On a menu main meals is ok but bar snacks or just ordering extras isn't, soup is a no too as a soup is only a starter not a main. We have changed our menu so many times to suit. I'm in tier 3 so it don't matter at the mo.

It's ridiculous tho go out shopping, get ya nails done, get ya hair done even go the gym but don't you dare sit at a table 2 meters apart with everyone wearing face coverings

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

All they are doing is complicating things.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

I thought the whole point of a Cornish pasty was that it WAS a complete meal?

If i recall my history, an original Cornish Pasty composed of a pastry with (please don't laugh) two large knobs at the end, with a filling at one end containing meat and veg, and a filling at the other end containing something sweet (usually jam). The knobs were to hold the pastry with dirty hands and you threw them away after you ate the two sides....they were made for the Cornish tin miners back when they mined tin.

Disclaimer.....I could be totally wrong. "

You aren't.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL

What is substantial to one person may not be to another. Depends on your appetite surely? How the hell will it even be policed?!

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

I'm in a tier 2 area, saw in our local paper that you have to leave the premises straighy way once you've finished your meal. I won't bother!

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"I'm in a tier 2 area, saw in our local paper that you have to leave the premises straighy way once you've finished your meal. I won't bother! "

That is wrong. That's your local rag that's got another thing wrong

Look, if there had been a time limit either under the previous tier 3 it the new tier 2, it would be all over the main press and the news and it isn't. Same as quantity. If there was a limit to consumption, it would be there. Again it's not

This is why people seem to think there is no clarity but that's because of people saying what they believe not fact

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By *m A FuckerMan
over a year ago

kingswood,surrey/leysdown kent


"I'm in a tier 2 area, saw in our local paper that you have to leave the premises straighy way once you've finished your meal. I won't bother! "
Absoloute joke,i wont either!

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"What is substantial to one person may not be to another. Depends on your appetite surely? How the hell will it even be policed?! "

Not at all. The government saud what it considered as a substantial meal. If you wabt to eat more, you can but it was something similar to a pasty and salad.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I'm in a tier 2 area, saw in our local paper that you have to leave the premises straighy way once you've finished your meal. I won't bother!

That is wrong. That's your local rag that's got another thing wrong

Look, if there had been a time limit either under the previous tier 3 it the new tier 2, it would be all over the main press and the news and it isn't. Same as quantity. If there was a limit to consumption, it would be there. Again it's not

This is why people seem to think there is no clarity but that's because of people saying what they believe not fact "

Quote from yesterday's Daily Telegraph:

"Tier 2 pub customers have to leave after finishing meals, Government says

'No lingering' warning issued by Prime Minister's official spokesman, who says people cannot stay 'once the meal is finished'"

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By *m A FuckerMan
over a year ago

kingswood,surrey/leysdown kent

so the travelodge breakfasts used to be not long ago£8.50 all u could eat.can i then go to the bar and drink all that i want?? asking for a friend

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

A proper Cornish Pasty made by a proper Cornish baker in Cornwall is definitely substantial! It takes a special kind of Westminster idiot to rule that a lettuce leaf and a cherry tomato are the vital ingredients for "substantial".

The Baker doesn't have to be Cornish by birth or good for that matter.

The traditional Cornish pasty, which since 2011 has Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) status in Europe,[2] is filled with beef, sliced or diced potato, swede (also known as yellow turnip or rutabaga – referred to in Cornwall as turnip) and onion, seasoned with salt and pepper, and baked. Today, the pasty is the food most associated with Cornwall. It is regarded as the national dish and accounts for 6% of the Cornish food economy. Pasties with many different fillings are made and some shops specialise in selling all sorts of pasties."

Shut up

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

A proper Cornish Pasty made by a proper Cornish baker in Cornwall is definitely substantial! It takes a special kind of Westminster idiot to rule that a lettuce leaf and a cherry tomato are the vital ingredients for "substantial".

The Baker doesn't have to be Cornish by birth or good for that matter.

The traditional Cornish pasty, which since 2011 has Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) status in Europe,[2] is filled with beef, sliced or diced potato, swede (also known as yellow turnip or rutabaga – referred to in Cornwall as turnip) and onion, seasoned with salt and pepper, and baked. Today, the pasty is the food most associated with Cornwall. It is regarded as the national dish and accounts for 6% of the Cornish food economy. Pasties with many different fillings are made and some shops specialise in selling all sorts of pasties.

Shut up"

Hahahahaha

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By *9089Man
over a year ago

Bradford


"

Turkey next weekend. I am getting used to cancellations, had a few already this year

So sorry to hear this. I was lucky to get to Turkey late August"

I was going to try replying through direct message but realised I am ancient and can't, lol

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By *usybee73 OP   Man
over a year ago

in the sticks

What about buffet and carvery?

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

I was going to try replying through direct message but realised I am ancient and can't, lol"

Sorry !

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

A decent-sized sausage would fill me up

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

As you can only go to the pub with your household or support bubble (T2) does it really matter what the meal is.

It just means you are fed up of cooking so eating out. It’s no different than a restaurant, you turn up you order, you eat & drink and then you leave when finished your meal.... and as the guidelines state “pubs and bars must close, unless operating as restaurants” I find it madness how many don’t understand this and arguing the toss.

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By *m A FuckerMan
over a year ago

kingswood,surrey/leysdown kent


"A decent-sized sausage would fill me up "

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By *ove2pleaseseukMan
over a year ago

Hastings

I personally think the pub thing is mad if you have space as in 2m dose it matter if you want to just have a drink. Or is it for some pubs that do food they need the table for food as drinkers don't add value to the pub.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"I personally think the pub thing is mad if you have space as in 2m dose it matter if you want to just have a drink. Or is it for some pubs that do food they need the table for food as drinkers don't add value to the pub. "

It's because people drinking lots of alcohol get d*unk and forget to stick to the rules. That's why alcohol consumption is being restricted in pubs to only alongside meals.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"Its not really rocket science is it!

A drink with a meal is just that.

If you were going out for a meal it would not be a fucking sandwich would it!

Either people are just being sarcastic or just looking for any way around the rules thay can just so they can have a drink

It seems the only thing we brits are good at these days is moaning about our lot at the moment

Tbh I think we have a bigger drink problem in the UK far bigger than we imagined. The mentality that's it's a essential right is beyond me."

Or it could be freedom of choice has been taken away, whilst those who implement these rules are beyond it.

Bet the bars in Westminster are open.

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By *ownwithafeatherMan
over a year ago

Watford

Can I go to The Ivy or another high end restaurant and order a brandy after I finish my meal? Seems I can't have another pint after I finish my fish and chips in Spoons.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Can I go to The Ivy or another high end restaurant and order a brandy after I finish my meal? Seems I can't have another pint after I finish my fish and chips in Spoons."

Why don't you try it and let us know?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Strange the ways people look at working round the rules. Theres almost an industry now, a bizarre pride being taken in how to dodge the rules. It's not complicated. Just stop spreading the virus. The sooner we stop, the sooner we get our lives back and can start repairing the damage."

It's depressing how some people think. Or rather can't think.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"What about buffet and carvery? "

What about it?

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Its not really rocket science is it!

A drink with a meal is just that.

If you were going out for a meal it would not be a fucking sandwich would it!

Either people are just being sarcastic or just looking for any way around the rules thay can just so they can have a drink

It seems the only thing we brits are good at these days is moaning about our lot at the moment

Tbh I think we have a bigger drink problem in the UK far bigger than we imagined. The mentality that's it's a essential right is beyond me.

Or it could be freedom of choice has been taken away, whilst those who implement these rules are beyond it.

Bet the bars in Westminster are open."

You can choose to go or choose not to go so you have complete freedom of choice.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"Its not really rocket science is it!

A drink with a meal is just that.

If you were going out for a meal it would not be a fucking sandwich would it!

Either people are just being sarcastic or just looking for any way around the rules thay can just so they can have a drink

It seems the only thing we brits are good at these days is moaning about our lot at the moment

Tbh I think we have a bigger drink problem in the UK far bigger than we imagined. The mentality that's it's a essential right is beyond me.

Or it could be freedom of choice has been taken away, whilst those who implement these rules are beyond it.

Bet the bars in Westminster are open.

You can choose to go or choose not to go so you have complete freedom of choice."

Sorry, lost me.

If the hospitality industry is closed down on the threat of a fine, where is the choice in that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it

It does say that serves a substantial meal. It doesn't actually say you have to eat it

Why would you go to a restaurant or pub to sit with 5 friends and order a meal you did not intend to eat . ? Maybe you had eaten at home already ? How is that going to help save the hospitality industry?

To get around the rules... simple. Plain idiocy.

There's a diffence between getting around the rules and complying with the rules.

If people have a problem with their local pub or indeed any premises now serving a substantial meal so that they can also operate legally, don't go. Simples.

Nowhere does it say that you have to go to a pub or premises that serves alcohol. To comply with the rules, regulations and law, then serving a substantial meal allows opening then why not? It helps a lot of people and the hospitality industry

Let's not lose sight of the reason we have restrictions. To stop spreading the infection. We are adults, we have brains, we can work out how to avoid spreading it. Stronger together "

Just seems the norm to challenge, complain and circumnavigate.

Be interesting to see if we will be one of the last of developed countries to get it low enough under control to start to go out of restrictions. Behaviour is everything.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"

You can choose to go or choose not to go so you have complete freedom of choice."

How is it freedom of choice when the pubs, bars and restaurants in 42% of England are closed and you can't travel out of tier 3 to go to one that's open ?

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it

It does say that serves a substantial meal. It doesn't actually say you have to eat it

Why would you go to a restaurant or pub to sit with 5 friends and order a meal you did not intend to eat . ? Maybe you had eaten at home already ? How is that going to help save the hospitality industry?

To get around the rules... simple. Plain idiocy.

There's a diffence between getting around the rules and complying with the rules.

If people have a problem with their local pub or indeed any premises now serving a substantial meal so that they can also operate legally, don't go. Simples.

Nowhere does it say that you have to go to a pub or premises that serves alcohol. To comply with the rules, regulations and law, then serving a substantial meal allows opening then why not? It helps a lot of people and the hospitality industry

Let's not lose sight of the reason we have restrictions. To stop spreading the infection. We are adults, we have brains, we can work out how to avoid spreading it. Stronger together

Just seems the norm to challenge, complain and circumnavigate.

Be interesting to see if we will be one of the last of developed countries to get it low enough under control to start to go out of restrictions. Behaviour is everything."

Agree, however I think it is more to do with memes/memetics and their behaviour byproducts.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"I personally think the pub thing is mad if you have space as in 2m dose it matter if you want to just have a drink. Or is it for some pubs that do food they need the table for food as drinkers don't add value to the pub.

It's because people drinking lots of alcohol get d*unk and forget to stick to the rules. That's why alcohol consumption is being restricted in pubs to only alongside meals."

Ooh who'd have thought alcohol consumption loosens inhibitions and self control... You'll be saying you can't drink and drive next.

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East

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By *ymph and ManicCouple
over a year ago

North East


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

A proper Cornish Pasty made by a proper Cornish baker in Cornwall is definitely substantial! It takes a special kind of Westminster idiot to rule that a lettuce leaf and a cherry tomato are the vital ingredients for "substantial".

The Baker doesn't have to be Cornish by birth or good for that matter.

The traditional Cornish pasty, which since 2011 has Protected Geographical Indication (PGI) status in Europe,[2] is filled with beef, sliced or diced potato, swede (also known as yellow turnip or rutabaga – referred to in Cornwall as turnip) and onion, seasoned with salt and pepper, and baked. Today, the pasty is the food most associated with Cornwall. It is regarded as the national dish and accounts for 6% of the Cornish food economy. Pasties with many different fillings are made and some shops specialise in selling all sorts of pasties."
.....since when has Cornwall became a nation ????

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

There will be no alcohol restrictions in private homes over Christmas when three households meet up but 99% of England can't go to the pub for a single drink with one friend

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"It's nothing to do with anything except to act as a deterrent to people going to the pub and could also act as get out clause for the government to avoid paying out money to affected pubs.

It's effectively a big, fat middle finger to the hospitality industry and those whose livlihoods depend on it.

quite so, no closure no government money to be paid out for compensation.

though suspect there is a major pub chain whispering in governments ear hole, as serving food is more profitable then the beer they sell.

before the lockdown, i used to sit on a table, get table service and have a few pints after work. so now im a higher tier then before, can do the same thing but have to eat ... it just dont make sense at all.

public houses (proper ones) are already struggling and will probably be shut down with the mixed messaging. i suspect in a few years time there will the major chain and thats about it

It does say that serves a substantial meal. It doesn't actually say you have to eat it

Why would you go to a restaurant or pub to sit with 5 friends and order a meal you did not intend to eat . ? Maybe you had eaten at home already ? How is that going to help save the hospitality industry?

To get around the rules... simple. Plain idiocy.

There's a diffence between getting around the rules and complying with the rules.

If people have a problem with their local pub or indeed any premises now serving a substantial meal so that they can also operate legally, don't go. Simples.

Nowhere does it say that you have to go to a pub or premises that serves alcohol. To comply with the rules, regulations and law, then serving a substantial meal allows opening then why not? It helps a lot of people and the hospitality industry

Let's not lose sight of the reason we have restrictions. To stop spreading the infection. We are adults, we have brains, we can work out how to avoid spreading it. Stronger together

Just seems the norm to challenge, complain and circumnavigate.

Be interesting to see if we will be one of the last of developed countries to get it low enough under control to start to go out of restrictions. Behaviour is everything."

Not looking very promising is it? I think we love to wallow in our own misery instead of looking to a future where we can do a few more normal things more often.... If we just put a bit of teamwork in now. Freedooommmmm...

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By *9089Man
over a year ago

Bradford


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I was going to try replying through direct message but realised I am ancient and can't, lol

Sorry !"

No problems, you have your settings for a reason

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just go out for 8 servings of triffle get hammered on the alcohol in it.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"There will be no alcohol restrictions in private homes over Christmas when three households meet up but 99% of England can't go to the pub for a single drink with one friend"

Is it... because... a coop d’etat is being planed?

Social distance the bastards then monitor the web.

Sugar, I live in Luddite county... shut the pubs!!!

Joking GCHQ.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Chips an gravey

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By *arlock30Man
over a year ago

MORECAMBE

It's all a con

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"It's all a con"

What is?

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By *usybee73 OP   Man
over a year ago

in the sticks


"There will be no alcohol restrictions in private homes over Christmas when three households meet up but 99% of England can't go to the pub for a single drink with one friend

Is it... because... a coop d’etat is being planed?

Social distance the bastards then monitor the web.

Sugar, I live in Luddite county... shut the pubs!!!

Joking GCHQ."

The coop is behind it? No wonder they do funerals

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"There will be no alcohol restrictions in private homes over Christmas when three households meet up but 99% of England can't go to the pub for a single drink with one friend

Is it... because... a coop d’etat is being planed?

Social distance the bastards then monitor the web.

Sugar, I live in Luddite county... shut the pubs!!!

Joking GCHQ.

The coop is behind it? No wonder they do funerals "

Ey up lad, don’t get divy stamps for fat fingers.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

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By *usybee73 OP   Man
over a year ago

in the sticks


"There will be no alcohol restrictions in private homes over Christmas when three households meet up but 99% of England can't go to the pub for a single drink with one friend

Is it... because... a coop d’etat is being planed?

Social distance the bastards then monitor the web.

Sugar, I live in Luddite county... shut the pubs!!!

Joking GCHQ.

The coop is behind it? No wonder they do funerals

Ey up lad, don’t get divy stamps for fat fingers."

Remember them well, as much value as green shield stamps! Spend 5 grand and get a toaster if you're lucky

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork... "

Lend your fork to Cummings.

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By *icentiousCouple
over a year ago

Up on them there hills


"There will be no alcohol restrictions in private homes over Christmas when three households meet up but 99% of England can't go to the pub for a single drink with one friend

Is it... because... a coop d’etat is being planed?

Social distance the bastards then monitor the web.

Sugar, I live in Luddite county... shut the pubs!!!

Joking GCHQ.

The coop is behind it? No wonder they do funerals

Ey up lad, don’t get divy stamps for fat fingers.

Remember them well, as much value as green shield stamps! Spend 5 grand and get a toaster if you're lucky "

You got a toaster!

All I got was a plated teapot for the cardboard box we lived in.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork... "

That'll never catch on. Not when I can blame other people for my own choices

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"I am so bored of gibberish rules and regulations now... the new government saying should be ‘use your fucking common sense everybody’ "

As we have found out, common sense doesn't work!

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham


"The only specific definition that has been given is that a Cornish Pasty is not a substantial meal but a Cornish Pasty served with chips or salad is.

I thought the whole point of a Cornish pasty was that it WAS a complete meal?

If i recall my history, an original Cornish Pasty composed of a pastry with (please don't laugh) two large knobs at the end, with a filling at one end containing meat and veg, and a filling at the other end containing something sweet (usually jam). The knobs were to hold the pastry with dirty hands and you threw them away after you ate the two sides....they were made for the Cornish tin miners back when they mined tin.

Disclaimer.....I could be totally wrong. "

That's what I remember being told as a kid.

Sadly, you find them in Greggs though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork... "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

"
may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is.

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By *sGivesWoodWoman
over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"What is substantial to one person may not be to another. Depends on your appetite surely? How the hell will it even be policed?!

Not at all. The government saud what it considered as a substantial meal. If you wabt to eat more, you can but it was something similar to a pasty and salad. "

For some, a sandwich is a substantial meal as well though. Depends on your appetite.

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is. "

This virus also kills young healthy people. Let's hope you're not one of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is.

This virus also kills young healthy people. Let's hope you're not one of them."

I thought the virus kept away from the young

you can have the company of upto 8 adults and any number of under 12 as under 12's not included

so if under 12's are not included does that mean the virus doesnt cling on to them

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is. "

Agreed x

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is. "

What are the suicide figures?

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork... "

Least restrictive? Don't make me laugh. They have made it illegal to earn a living for a large part of the population and then they offer to lend you a pittance to put food on the table.

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By *oroRick1027Man
over a year ago

Middlesbrough

They are trying to encourage people to eat in pubs. Why?, because pubs make far more money from food sales than they do on drinks.

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

2 hour slots usually so pubs get more business from food sales.

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By *ik MMan
over a year ago

Lancashire


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is.

This virus also kills young healthy people. Let's hope you're not one of them."

Young healthy people die every day without much explanation or reasoning, death is the only guaranteed result in all our lives.

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By *i1971Man
over a year ago

Cornwall


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is. "

Maybe if some of these people you speak of actually did what they were asked/required to do by law, rather than trying to circumnavigate everything put in place, we might have already been in a better place by now. Not everyone knows they have an underlying health condition, so yes, people should be restricted in what they can do, as many clearly have problems in using common sense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are in T3 but our R rate is 0.7-1 and cases are falling the quickest in the country. We are being screwed because Andy Burnham had the audacity to stand up to Bojo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is.

This virus also kills young healthy people. Let's hope you're not one of them."
to be honest I'm not that bothered if it does kill me it's a chance I'm willing to take same chance I take every day when I get in a car or any of the other million ways I could die each day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is.

Maybe if some of these people you speak of actually did what they were asked/required to do by law, rather than trying to circumnavigate everything put in place, we might have already been in a better place by now. Not everyone knows they have an underlying health condition, so yes, people should be restricted in what they can do, as many clearly have problems in using common sense."

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is.

Maybe if some of these people you speak of actually did what they were asked/required to do by law, rather than trying to circumnavigate everything put in place, we might have already been in a better place by now. Not everyone knows they have an underlying health condition, so yes, people should be restricted in what they can do, as many clearly have problems in using common sense."

And maybe if people had looked after themselves properly, rather than overeating to the point where 60% of the adult population is overweight, we wouldn't be in this situation.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is.

Maybe if some of these people you speak of actually did what they were asked/required to do by law, rather than trying to circumnavigate everything put in place, we might have already been in a better place by now. Not everyone knows they have an underlying health condition, so yes, people should be restricted in what they can do, as many clearly have problems in using common sense.

And maybe if people had looked after themselves properly, rather than overeating to the point where 60% of the adult population is overweight, we wouldn't be in this situation."

And looked after their cardio system, and looked after their mental well being, and didn't smoke... And and and...

We would still be in this situation, but wouldn't have such bad numbers.

You only have to look at our advertising to see why people eat so much.

Years ago we made it illegal to show people smoking in films and TV productions, as a way of stopping people smoking. Maybe we need to chop all eating scenes out of films and TV...

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

Years ago we made it illegal to show people smoking in films and TV productions, as a way of stopping people smoking. Maybe we need to chop all eating scenes out of films and TV... "

Perhaps a new series... Midsomer Gym Murders...

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By *utecontradictionMan
over a year ago

Malvern


"

Years ago we made it illegal to show people smoking in films and TV productions, as a way of stopping people smoking. Maybe we need to chop all eating scenes out of films and TV...

Perhaps a new series... Midsomer Gym Murders... "

It's not illegal to show smoking in film or tv. It's actually one of the exceptions to smoking in the workplace.

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By *rHotNottsMan
over a year ago

Dubai & Nottingham


"

whats classed as substantial meal? sausage roll and chips? sandwich? pork pie? or have to have the full 3 courses?

"

Depends on who you ask , on here I’d say three courses

Starter - a tasty nipple

Mains - a nice fat spunky cock

Desert - cream pie or Buk-cake

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"2 hour slots usually so pubs get more business from food sales."

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me 2 hours to have a family meal with drinks sitting down nice and civilised and respecting other people’s space

Unfortunately you have to convince the fuckwits who just want to go out and get pissed

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"

Years ago we made it illegal to show people smoking in films and TV productions, as a way of stopping people smoking. Maybe we need to chop all eating scenes out of films and TV...

Perhaps a new series... Midsomer Gym Murders... "

The way some of the gym monkeys on here get over heated.... It may be on the cards!

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By *usybee73 OP   Man
over a year ago

in the sticks


"2 hour slots usually so pubs get more business from food sales.

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me 2 hours to have a family meal with drinks sitting down nice and civilised and respecting other people’s space

Unfortunately you have to convince the fuckwits who just want to go out and get pissed "

True and those that think the pub is a nursery, letting their kids run around with no regard to anyone else.

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby

The two things I take away from some of the posts here are that there are a lot of incredibly dense people in the country that don’t see further than they want to, making out the rules are confusing (they really are not). Also the uk has a serious drink problem that needs addressing soon, no wonder it also has a huge obesity problem alongside !

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"2 hour slots usually so pubs get more business from food sales.

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me 2 hours to have a family meal with drinks sitting down nice and civilised and respecting other people’s space

Unfortunately you have to convince the fuckwits who just want to go out and get pissed "

Yeah sounds reasonable to certain groups. Pie and chips and 10 pints. I've actually seen that. Not me.

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By *ensual massagerMan
over a year ago

Bolton


"The two things I take away from some of the posts here are that there are a lot of incredibly dense people in the country that don’t see further than they want to, making out the rules are confusing (they really are not). Also the uk has a serious drink problem that needs addressing soon, no wonder it also has a huge obesity problem alongside ! "

So how would you address this apparent serious drink problem.

Particularly at this time, the consumption, according to the supermarkets has increased but pub consumption had vastly decreased but there are do many people bored to tiers (sorry about that) the only release is alcohol

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By *m A FuckerMan
over a year ago

kingswood,surrey/leysdown kent


"2 hour slots usually so pubs get more business from food sales.

That sounds perfectly reasonable to me 2 hours to have a family meal with drinks sitting down nice and civilised and respecting other people’s space

Unfortunately you have to convince the fuckwits who just want to go out and get pissed

True and those that think the pub is a nursery, letting their kids run around with no regard to anyone else."

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby


"The two things I take away from some of the posts here are that there are a lot of incredibly dense people in the country that don’t see further than they want to, making out the rules are confusing (they really are not). Also the uk has a serious drink problem that needs addressing soon, no wonder it also has a huge obesity problem alongside !

So how would you address this apparent serious drink problem.

Particularly at this time, the consumption, according to the supermarkets has increased but pub consumption had vastly decreased but there are do many people bored to tiers (sorry about that) the only release is alcohol "

Tax the hell out of it, make it like Norway where your looking at £10 a pint. The only people that ever found a solution to their problems in alcohol are the people selling it.

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By *aul happyMan
over a year ago

tilgate crawley

so is a substantial meal with each drink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Substantial meal something more than snacks as pubs were serving just snacks with alot of alcohol when it was supposed to be a meal.

Had lasagne and chips out today though sadly no wine, in Scottish tier 3 so no booze for us.

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By *ovebjsMan
over a year ago

Bristol


"so is a substantial meal with each drink "

Who said with each drink ?

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By *limmatureguyMan
over a year ago

Tonbridge


"Not sure why everyone had to behave like children. The rules are to protect us. They are clearly trying to be as least restrictive as possible.

Here is a novel idea... why doesn't everyone try to be sensible and have some self accountability instead of trying to bend rules.

Oh look at me aren't I clever... soup with a fork...

may be some people are fed up of aload of crap rules about a virus that doesnt effect them yes it's scary and yes it may kill some elderly and some with underline health conditions but is that worth making the rest of the population so missable that suicide is up as much as it is.

Maybe if some of these people you speak of actually did what they were asked/required to do by law, rather than trying to circumnavigate everything put in place, we might have already been in a better place by now. Not everyone knows they have an underlying health condition, so yes, people should be restricted in what they can do, as many clearly have problems in using common sense.

And maybe if people had looked after themselves properly, rather than overeating to the point where 60% of the adult population is overweight, we wouldn't be in this situation.

And looked after their cardio system, and looked after their mental well being, and didn't smoke... And and and...

We would still be in this situation, but wouldn't have such bad numbers.

You only have to look at our advertising to see why people eat so much.

Years ago we made it illegal to show people smoking in films and TV productions, as a way of stopping people smoking. Maybe we need to chop all eating scenes out of films and TV... "

We wouldn't be in this situation because the death rate would be far lower and it would have just been a bad flu year which doesn't require the economy to be trashed by sequential lock downs.

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By *angero3aMan
over a year ago

swords

same over wet pubs closed since march but pub severing food will reopen next friday you have to spend 9 euro on food and will not get covid

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"The two things I take away from some of the posts here are that there are a lot of incredibly dense people in the country that don’t see further than they want to, making out the rules are confusing (they really are not). Also the uk has a serious drink problem that needs addressing soon, no wonder it also has a huge obesity problem alongside !

So how would you address this apparent serious drink problem.

Particularly at this time, the consumption, according to the supermarkets has increased but pub consumption had vastly decreased but there are do many people bored to tiers (sorry about that) the only release is alcohol "

Why is the only release alcohol?

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire


"The two things I take away from some of the posts here are that there are a lot of incredibly dense people in the country that don’t see further than they want to, making out the rules are confusing (they really are not). Also the uk has a serious drink problem that needs addressing soon, no wonder it also has a huge obesity problem alongside !

So how would you address this apparent serious drink problem.

Particularly at this time, the consumption, according to the supermarkets has increased but pub consumption had vastly decreased but there are do many people bored to tiers (sorry about that) the only release is alcohol "

It’s not an apparent drink problem there is one I work in recovery services ....

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"so is a substantial meal with each drink

Who said with each drink ? "

Govt guidelines.

They also state that once the meal is finished the patron must leave, even if there is still drink left in their glass.

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By *ark Knight 2017Man
over a year ago

Ware


"I am so bored of gibberish rules and regulations now... the new government saying should be ‘use your fucking common sense everybody’ "

We can't be trusted to do that it seems

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over a year ago


"so is a substantial meal with each drink

Who said with each drink ?

Govt guidelines.

They also state that once the meal is finished the patron must leave, even if there is still drink left in their glass."

I’m pretty sure you’d be allowed to finish your drink

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By *ustfulmusingCouple
over a year ago

ilpseich

Only being able to go to a pub and restaurant with people you live with in tier 2 is probably the biggest blow to the hospitality .

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By *aria_dreamgirlTV/TS
over a year ago

stockport

If pubs are going to be jobsworths they deserve to go out of business.

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