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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Went back to work yesterday after being off 6 week's (unpaid) still suffering from the after effects of covid.

GP has been rubbish.

Employer even worse.

Back into work full workload hit ground running feel absolutely fucked from yesterday.

Anyone else have long lasting effects

Fatigue, excessive sweating,aching muscles and joints anxiety ?

How long does this go on for?

Can't keep taking time off but still don't feel close to being fit enough!

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By *riar BelisseWoman
over a year ago

Delightful Bliss

Check long covid-19 recovery support in your area, new centres are opening up to offer advice. This also goes for anyone with covanxiety there are services out there to help

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Thanks I will look into it.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Unknown, but yes. There are Facebook groups and other things.

This Week in Virology episode 680 talked about Long Covid in particular.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Check long covid-19 recovery support in your area, new centres are opening up to offer advice. This also goes for anyone with covanxiety there are services out there to help"

This, my sister was only getting 'its long covid'from the GP but kept pushing and it was the practice nurse who informed her there is a support centre local ish which she has accessed..

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By *alldarksurreyMan
over a year ago

surrey

Why didn't you receive sick pay?

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Why didn't you receive sick pay? "

Only entitled to SSP

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Went back to work yesterday after being off 6 week's (unpaid) still suffering from the after effects of covid.

GP has been rubbish.

Employer even worse.

Back into work full workload hit ground running feel absolutely fucked from yesterday.

Anyone else have long lasting effects

Fatigue, excessive sweating,aching muscles and joints anxiety ?

How long does this go on for?

Can't keep taking time off but still don't feel close to being fit enough!"

On a positive note I had flu in January 2018 and it was a good 6 weeks before I felt even close to normal so fingers crossed you'll get there. For me a lot of it was probably mental stress because I knew just how much work I would have to catch up on after two and a half weeks off

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The member of my team who tested positive and led to my 14 days isolation returned to work last Monday. Today 3 1/2 weeks after testing positive he collapsed at work. His breathing has been getting worse daily through last week. He was rushed to hospital and is currently in an oxygen cap atm and apparently he is in a bad way. He is a dad of 3 and 44 years old.

Not sure if this classes as the original covid infection or some sort of long covid as bear in mind he was told to stay off for 10 days after testing positive and in the end he took 2 weeks before returning to work. He has been back all last week before been taken to hospital today.

KJ

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


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The member of my team who tested positive and led to my 14 days isolation returned to work last Monday. Today 3 1/2 weeks after testing positive he collapsed at work. His breathing has been getting worse daily through last week. He was rushed to hospital and is currently in an oxygen cap atm and apparently he is in a bad way. He is a dad of 3 and 44 years old.

Not sure if this classes as the original covid infection or some sort of long covid as bear in mind he was told to stay off for 10 days after testing positive and in the end he took 2 weeks before returning to work. He has been back all last week before been taken to hospital today.

KJ"

That's not good, hope he gets through it..

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By *amissCouple
over a year ago

chelmsford


"

The member of my team who tested positive and led to my 14 days isolation returned to work last Monday. Today 3 1/2 weeks after testing positive he collapsed at work. His breathing has been getting worse daily through last week. He was rushed to hospital and is currently in an oxygen cap atm and apparently he is in a bad way. He is a dad of 3 and 44 years old.

Not sure if this classes as the original covid infection or some sort of long covid as bear in mind he was told to stay off for 10 days after testing positive and in the end he took 2 weeks before returning to work. He has been back all last week before been taken to hospital today.

KJ"

Oh dear, poor man, that's terrible, I hope he recovers soon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

The member of my team who tested positive and led to my 14 days isolation returned to work last Monday. Today 3 1/2 weeks after testing positive he collapsed at work. His breathing has been getting worse daily through last week. He was rushed to hospital and is currently in an oxygen cap atm and apparently he is in a bad way. He is a dad of 3 and 44 years old.

Not sure if this classes as the original covid infection or some sort of long covid as bear in mind he was told to stay off for 10 days after testing positive and in the end he took 2 weeks before returning to work. He has been back all last week before been taken to hospital today.

KJ

Oh dear, poor man, that's terrible, I hope he recovers soon."

It's even worse one of the other teams officers (same as myself) also test for covid 2 1/2 weeks ago. I've found out she's was also rushed into hospital at the weekend and is in the fight of her life currently. She's only 39 with a 15 yr old son

Ours was one of the few departments who went back to face to face from June. Mainly because the senior manager is pretty much a covid denier. Who likes performance figures job outcomes etc to brag about in the big meetings.

The majority of departments and teams have worked from home since March.

There's definitely a told you so vibe going around sadly.

Don't get me wrong by going back in June we have helped over 100 residents into work and made a massive differences to many lives.

I guess its the price you might have to pay as a key worker.

KJ

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"

It's even worse one of the other teams officers (same as myself) also test for covid 2 1/2 weeks ago. I've found out she's was also rushed into hospital at the weekend and is in the fight of her life currently. She's only 39 with a 15 yr old son

Ours was one of the few departments who went back to face to face from June. Mainly because the senior manager is pretty much a covid denier. Who likes performance figures job outcomes etc to brag about in the big meetings.

The majority of departments and teams have worked from home since March.

There's definitely a told you so vibe going around sadly.

Don't get me wrong by going back in June we have helped over 100 residents into work and made a massive differences to many lives.

I guess its the price you might have to pay as a key worker.

KJ "

I wish her and the other member of your team all the best, that's terrible news.

All the senior manager has demonstrated, is that they value KPI's over and above the mental and physical well-being of their staff. Such blatant disregard for their staff's safety is a contradiction of the "Covid-Secure" workplace regulations that you should have.

Whilst I am not a lawyer, I should imagine any suitably-minded prosecuting legal counsel would be licking their lips at this sad state of affairs and would see a number of potential issues here.

The senior manager might have much indeed to brag about if a corporate manslaughter charge is levelled against the company through their maleficence, resulting in large fines, even imprisonment.

(In R v British Steel (1995) 1 WLR 1356 it was held that the defendant (British Steel) could not escape liability by showing that, at a senior level, it had taken steps to ensure safety if, at the operating level, all reasonably practicable steps had not been taken.)

All throughout this epidemic, the Government have said "Work from home if you can". That has been the Government advice.

You senior manager is on very shaky ground here, IMHO, without knowing all the facts / protections in place.

Granted, a corporate manslaughter charge is unlikely and it needs a lot of conditions to be satisfied first.

However, there are other charges such as Gross Negligence Manslaughter which could be levelled.

Bottom line...like I said, if I was a prosecuting counsel, I'd be getting my knife, fork and napkin ready and would look forward to going through this meal with a fine toothcomb.

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By *ommenhimCouple
over a year ago

wigan


"

It's even worse one of the other teams officers (same as myself) also test for covid 2 1/2 weeks ago. I've found out she's was also rushed into hospital at the weekend and is in the fight of her life currently. She's only 39 with a 15 yr old son

Ours was one of the few departments who went back to face to face from June. Mainly because the senior manager is pretty much a covid denier. Who likes performance figures job outcomes etc to brag about in the big meetings.

The majority of departments and teams have worked from home since March.

There's definitely a told you so vibe going around sadly.

Don't get me wrong by going back in June we have helped over 100 residents into work and made a massive differences to many lives.

I guess its the price you might have to pay as a key worker.

KJ

I wish her and the other member of your team all the best, that's terrible news.

All the senior manager has demonstrated, is that they value KPI's over and above the mental and physical well-being of their staff. Such blatant disregard for their staff's safety is a contradiction of the "Covid-Secure" workplace regulations that you should have.

Whilst I am not a lawyer, I should imagine any suitably-minded prosecuting legal counsel would be licking their lips at this sad state of affairs and would see a number of potential issues here.

The senior manager might have much indeed to brag about if a corporate manslaughter charge is levelled against the company through their maleficence, resulting in large fines, even imprisonment.

(In R v British Steel (1995) 1 WLR 1356 it was held that the defendant (British Steel) could not escape liability by showing that, at a senior level, it had taken steps to ensure safety if, at the operating level, all reasonably practicable steps had not been taken.)

All throughout this epidemic, the Government have said "Work from home if you can". That has been the Government advice.

You senior manager is on very shaky ground here, IMHO, without knowing all the facts / protections in place.

Granted, a corporate manslaughter charge is unlikely and it needs a lot of conditions to be satisfied first.

However, there are other charges such as Gross Negligence Manslaughter which could be levelled.

Bottom line...like I said, if I was a prosecuting counsel, I'd be getting my knife, fork and napkin ready and would look forward to going through this meal with a fine toothcomb."

Put down your cutlery charges of manslaughter normally need a fatality.

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By *entleman_spyMan
over a year ago

nearby


"

It's even worse one of the other teams officers (same as myself) also test for covid 2 1/2 weeks ago. I've found out she's was also rushed into hospital at the weekend and is in the fight of her life currently. She's only 39 with a 15 yr old son

Ours was one of the few departments who went back to face to face from June. Mainly because the senior manager is pretty much a covid denier. Who likes performance figures job outcomes etc to brag about in the big meetings.

The majority of departments and teams have worked from home since March.

There's definitely a told you so vibe going around sadly.

Don't get me wrong by going back in June we have helped over 100 residents into work and made a massive differences to many lives.

I guess its the price you might have to pay as a key worker.

KJ

I wish her and the other member of your team all the best, that's terrible news.

All the senior manager has demonstrated, is that they value KPI's over and above the mental and physical well-being of their staff. Such blatant disregard for their staff's safety is a contradiction of the "Covid-Secure" workplace regulations that you should have.

Whilst I am not a lawyer, I should imagine any suitably-minded prosecuting legal counsel would be licking their lips at this sad state of affairs and would see a number of potential issues here.

The senior manager might have much indeed to brag about if a corporate manslaughter charge is levelled against the company through their maleficence, resulting in large fines, even imprisonment.

(In R v British Steel (1995) 1 WLR 1356 it was held that the defendant (British Steel) could not escape liability by showing that, at a senior level, it had taken steps to ensure safety if, at the operating level, all reasonably practicable steps had not been taken.)

All throughout this epidemic, the Government have said "Work from home if you can". That has been the Government advice.

You senior manager is on very shaky ground here, IMHO, without knowing all the facts / protections in place.

Granted, a corporate manslaughter charge is unlikely and it needs a lot of conditions to be satisfied first.

However, there are other charges such as Gross Negligence Manslaughter which could be levelled.

Bottom line...like I said, if I was a prosecuting counsel, I'd be getting my knife, fork and napkin ready and would look forward to going through this meal with a fine "

Lol you wouldn’t even make it to the jury showing the fact-less bias you have here ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Bottom line...like I said, if I was a prosecuting counsel, I'd be getting my knife, fork and napkin ready and would look forward to going through this meal with a fine

Lol you wouldn’t even make it to the jury showing the fact-less bias you have here ..."

Not where I expected this thread / replies to my post go.

Both colleagues are still in hospital but have seen some improvements thankfully.

I think what it highlights is there are many roles that are classed as "key work". Ultimately to get the job done in many of these roles there is an element of risk no matter how careful you are. Especially when the virus is running rampant.

So I do want to say thanks to all the countless key workers out there.

They may not be saving lives in the hospital on the front line but they are potentially saving lives in many other ways. E.g. helping someone get a new job, stopping someone been evicted, rescuing a domestic abuse victim or providing badly needed face to face mental health support.

Also a big thanks to the many other people in Key worker roles for example (but not limited to) care homes, retail, warehousing, working in the supply chains and similar.

Sadly a few of these key workers have made the ultimate sacrifice with their lives.

That should never be down played or forgotten.

KJ

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By *exy Pretty FeetCouple
over a year ago

Live in Scotland Play in England


"

Bottom line...like I said, if I was a prosecuting counsel, I'd be getting my knife, fork and napkin ready and would look forward to going through this meal with a fine

Lol you wouldn’t even make it to the jury showing the fact-less bias you have here ...

Not where I expected this thread / replies to my post go.

Both colleagues are still in hospital but have seen some improvements thankfully.

I think what it highlights is there are many roles that are classed as "key work". Ultimately to get the job done in many of these roles there is an element of risk no matter how careful you are. Especially when the virus is running rampant.

So I do want to say thanks to all the countless key workers out there.

They may not be saving lives in the hospital on the front line but they are potentially saving lives in many other ways. E.g. helping someone get a new job, stopping someone been evicted, rescuing a domestic abuse victim or providing badly needed face to face mental health support.

Also a big thanks to the many other people in Key worker roles for example (but not limited to) care homes, retail, warehousing, working in the supply chains and similar.

Sadly a few of these key workers have made the ultimate sacrifice with their lives.

That should never be down played or forgotten.

KJ

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Three cheers for all the key workers keeping us going and thanks also to you for what you do

Hope your colleagues pull through

Take care x

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


" Lol you wouldn’t even make it to the jury showing the fact-less bias you have here ..."

Didn't say I was ! Bias doesn't wash with judges. They look for evidence and burden of proof of course.

It's the job of the prosecuting counsel to look for evidence which supports their case and can be presented. It's got to be pretty solid, as court time is expensive and judges don't view timewasting favourably.

However, both prosecution and defence will "build cases" around their submission/evidence. Both will be biased to their own evidence and client obviously.

My stream of thought is just that. It's but a small element of suppositions that would need further investigation if a case were being built. Some may be factually incorrect and not credible. I wasn't presenting a case.

Out of interest, what would you consider from the information already given ?

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By *arshal Von KrakenfartMan
over a year ago

Barnsley

Its hit some really hard we have had 2 at work still off after a month and no signs of return yet its a worry for lots it brings how bad it can get into reality.

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By *aggy dollsCouple
over a year ago

bradford

I'm convinced I had it back in march 2 weeks before lockdown

(the good one, not the difficult sequal) so couldn't get a test for love nor money, and I'm still feeling the effects to this day, I.e shortness of breath, exhausted after a couple of hours at work, aches and pains like never before and the worst part is my sense of taste and smell at first all I could taste and smell was kind of clinical aroma similar to what a new paper face mask smells of but more intense, now everything smells and tastes of rotting food, it's ruined my appetite. Mr H

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm feeling the the effects of it now 2 months later, it started about 10 days ago FFS, I think its long covid anyway

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Just had to take 3days off work again almost two months since first symptoms. My legs are absolutely bolloxed can't do anything without getting tired and takes ages to recover.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just had to take 3days off work again almost two months since first symptoms. My legs are absolutely bolloxed can't do anything without getting tired and takes ages to recover."

Are you putting 'covid' as the reason your of work? I ask this for a specific reason

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I had COVID in feb and I think for me the long COVID symptoms eased around the end of September have felt pretty good the past couple of months no excessive fatigue

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Just had to take 3days off work again almost two months since first symptoms. My legs are absolutely bolloxed can't do anything without getting tired and takes ages to recover.

Are you putting 'covid' as the reason your of work? I ask this for a specific reason"

Yes as I got diagnosed with long covid when I called with symptoms

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just had to take 3days off work again almost two months since first symptoms. My legs are absolutely bolloxed can't do anything without getting tired and takes ages to recover.

Are you putting 'covid' as the reason your of work? I ask this for a specific reason

Yes as I got diagnosed with long covid when I called with symptoms"

I think I have it, im asking because my work is not putting covid on our sick recoded,just wondering if they're doing the same with long covid if I'm off work

That make sense, I'm not good with words, sorry

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just had to take 3days off work again almost two months since first symptoms. My legs are absolutely bolloxed can't do anything without getting tired and takes ages to recover.

Are you putting 'covid' as the reason your of work? I ask this for a specific reason

Yes as I got diagnosed with long covid when I called with symptoms

I think I have it, im asking because my work is not putting covid on our sick recoded,just wondering if they're doing the same with long covid if I'm off work

That make sense, I'm not good with words, sorry "

Record*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Iv still got it, it's not getting any better

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

I feel for everyone suffering.

People seem to have blocked this out of their minds when talking about covid. They jabber on about deaths being the only consequence.

Young people saying "it won't kill me" nah mate it might not, but imagine living the rest of your life with a vastly diminished quality of life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel for everyone suffering.

People seem to have blocked this out of their minds when talking about covid. They jabber on about deaths being the only consequence.

Young people saying "it won't kill me" nah mate it might not, but imagine living the rest of your life with a vastly diminished quality of life. "

This is very true and something that isn't being talked about enough.

I know people who were previously perfectly healthy and fit. Even though they didn't suffer too badly with covid symptoms they have got long term difficulties as a result.

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By *D835Man
over a year ago

London


"I feel for everyone suffering.

People seem to have blocked this out of their minds when talking about covid. They jabber on about deaths being the only consequence.

Young people saying "it won't kill me" nah mate it might not, but imagine living the rest of your life with a vastly diminished quality of life.

This is very true and something that isn't being talked about enough.

I know people who were previously perfectly healthy and fit. Even though they didn't suffer too badly with covid symptoms they have got long term difficulties as a result."

"...I know people who were previously perfectly healthy and fit. Even though they didn't suffer too badly with covid symptoms they have got long term difficulties as a result...."

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You are right

And sadly some of those: - 'who were previously perfectly healthy and fit' - later become frail and classed as 'vulnerable' due to the debilitating effects of Long Covid.

The young and fit may not die if they contract the virus, but they could end up with the negative effects of the dreaded Long Covid.

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Solihull


"Went back to work yesterday after being off 6 week's (unpaid) still suffering from the after effects of covid.

GP has been rubbish.

Employer even worse.

Back into work full workload hit ground running feel absolutely fucked from yesterday.

Anyone else have long lasting effects

Fatigue, excessive sweating,aching muscles and joints anxiety ?

How long does this go on for?

Can't keep taking time off but still don't feel close to being fit enough!"

I had all the symptoms you describe for about 6 months . They all gradually disappeared but it was a long haul, every day should get easier though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unknown presently could be 3 months could be 6, could be 12. We are still building up Data.

I hope this helps but when I had pneuminia it took me about 6 weeks to get back up to anywhere normal speed. And even then I was careful and easily tired.

What you are feeling is most likely normal. You boss just needs to try to understand at this time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now "

Didn't have to read the thread or reply!!!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now "

Have you only just heard of it?

Another reason to suppress this virus.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now

Have you only just heard of it?

Another reason to suppress this virus."

never heard of it...honestly though we cannot just lump every death and illness under covid this is madness

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now

Have you only just heard of it?

Another reason to suppress this virus.

never heard of it...honestly though we cannot just lump every death and illness under covid this is madness"

Maybe you should read up on it

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now

Have you only just heard of it?

Another reason to suppress this virus.

never heard of it...honestly though we cannot just lump every death and illness under covid this is madness"

I'll explain it this way....

It's a little bit like breaking your leg really quite badly. You'll not die but will walk with a limp and pain for a very long time. One day you may fully recover but nobody actually knows.

Obviously we ain't talking about a broken leg, we're talking breathing problems, long term fatigue and weakness..

That easier to understand?

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now

Have you only just heard of it?

Another reason to suppress this virus.

never heard of it...honestly though we cannot just lump every death and illness under covid this is madness

I'll explain it this way....

It's a little bit like breaking your leg really quite badly. You'll not die but will walk with a limp and pain for a very long time. One day you may fully recover but nobody actually knows.

Obviously we ain't talking about a broken leg, we're talking breathing problems, long term fatigue and weakness..

That easier to understand?"

Plus kidney damage, heart issues, digestive issues.

Plus mental health problems and the dreaded brain fog .

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now

Have you only just heard of it?

Another reason to suppress this virus.

never heard of it...honestly though we cannot just lump every death and illness under covid this is madness

I'll explain it this way....

It's a little bit like breaking your leg really quite badly. You'll not die but will walk with a limp and pain for a very long time. One day you may fully recover but nobody actually knows.

Obviously we ain't talking about a broken leg, we're talking breathing problems, long term fatigue and weakness..

That easier to understand?

Plus kidney damage, heart issues, digestive issues.

Plus mental health problems and the dreaded brain fog ."

I didn't wanna overload his brain. I tried to do gently words.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now

Have you only just heard of it?

Another reason to suppress this virus.

never heard of it...honestly though we cannot just lump every death and illness under covid this is madness"

Trying to put this as basic as I can...

So you know how if someone dies in a house fire, what kills them, smoke or fire? it's the smoke that knocks em out first meaning they can't escape and then they die.

Covid is the smoke.

Yes, some have underlying issues (fire) that alone mean they would continue living for a long time, but mix it with covid (smoke AND fire) and it's a fight for life.

Ya get it now?

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By *uzz And WoodyCouple
over a year ago

Maidstone


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now

Have you only just heard of it?

Another reason to suppress this virus.

never heard of it...honestly though we cannot just lump every death and illness under covid this is madness

Trying to put this as basic as I can...

So you know how if someone dies in a house fire, what kills them, smoke or fire? it's the smoke that knocks em out first meaning they can't escape and then they die.

Covid is the smoke.

Yes, some have underlying issues (fire) that alone mean they would continue living for a long time, but mix it with covid (smoke AND fire) and it's a fight for life.

Ya get it now? "

Perfectly put!!

Lou x

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

In addition, in some of these "underlying conditions" things they count fucking everything. Asthma, old age, yeah that'll make Covid harder.

When they include anxiety and autism they're lying scumbags and can fuck off.

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By *ools and the brain OP   Couple
over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"Long covid? oh behave youre taking the micky now

Have you only just heard of it?

Another reason to suppress this virus.

never heard of it...honestly though we cannot just lump every death and illness under covid this is madness"

Mrs here......

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Both myself and my husband had covid back in October. I don't have any underlying medical conditions. I am or was as fit as a fiddle. Pre covid both myself and my husband were attending the gym 4-5 times a week. Post covid we are taking things slow. Please don't try to understand this terrible virus unless you have actually had it and suffered the consequences. I am a nurse by trade and I am currently working with covid positive patients. We are not looking for sympathynand do not wish to ' lump every illness' as covid relatef. We are merely trying to understand why we feel the way we do. For myself the virus has permanently damaged my lungs and I am now asthmatic which is a massive shock to my system as I have never had any chest problems.

Until you have had covid you cannot possibly understand where we are coming from.

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