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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views.

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham

No i wouldnt ...since March i havent and currently have no plans to.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

No.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

I'll meet when I'm pretty sure I'm not going to spread or catch a pandemic disease.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds

I haven't hugged my parents or adult children since March so why would I have sex with a stranger ?

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By *addyBabygirl2020Couple
over a year ago

norwich

Yes we would.

The first lockdown we took very seriously.

Little was known about Covid and it felt like a genuine attempt to control the virus, emtpy roads, everyone who could be at home was.

This lockdown is just a joke, with kids back at school and most people still working its pointless.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Absolutely not. Sex is not worth mine or my family's life.

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

If you mean Sex meet = No.

If you mean meet friends and family = Yes.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire

I wouldn't (I misread the question ??).

The use of the word 'advice' has been twisted over the last year.

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

Definitely not. Far too risky

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Meet who?

Family or random people for a shag?

A

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views."

Not to play no..

What about you op?

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By * Your PleasureMan
over a year ago

.....


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views.

Not to play no..

What about you op?"

Think the verifications show the answer!

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Yes we would.

The first lockdown we took very seriously.

Little was known about Covid and it felt like a genuine attempt to control the virus, emtpy roads, everyone who could be at home was.

This lockdown is just a joke, with kids back at school and most people still working its pointless.

"

Oh dear !

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views."

No.

I'm assuming you mean "Meeting" as in "Swinging".

Again No.

I'd extrapolate that further and also include "Meeting" in every possible definition of the social sense.

Again No.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

If we were in the Tiers system, I'd be the same. It's still a very dangerous time here and so shouldn't be meeting. Many months without sex in some ways becomes easier

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views.

Not to play no..

What about you op?

Think the verifications show the answer! "

Playing devils advocate they could be social meets..

Anyone who has met and played in this time should at least leave the site, the site being a business won't cut their revenue so in some ways warnings and guidelines are a bit pointless..

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views."

Back in july, maybe

Now .. NO

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views."

I have been ignoring the government advice from even before they gave advice for the first time. I will meet people when i believe it's safe to meet people. Which is not now, hasn't been since February, and is highly unlikely to be soon. I'm unhappy and depressed with the situation, but i have family members who might well die if i caught it and passed it along to them. I won't be waiting for an all clear signal from bojo though, I'll assess the evidence on my own and be out and about again when it really is safe.

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views.

I have been ignoring the government advice from even before they gave advice for the first time. I will meet people when i believe it's safe to meet people. Which is not now, hasn't been since February, and is highly unlikely to be soon. I'm unhappy and depressed with the situation, but i have family members who might well die if i caught it and passed it along to them. I won't be waiting for an all clear signal from bojo though, I'll assess the evidence on my own and be out and about again when it really is safe."

I'm interested to know what advice you are going by that allows you to make that decision?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah I probably would. If people wasn’t wearing masks I’d swear I’d forget there was a virus.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

I would do as I am doing and stick to my man in my bubble

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By *all me FlikWoman
over a year ago

Galaxy Far Far Away

Common sense says don't meet...I don’t need rules or advice.

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

No.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Possibly,yes,not definitely,but possibly.

Definitely no one from the forums though

Far too judgmental

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By *hilledOutGuy1Man
over a year ago

Not far away

No I won't be meeting, mind you there isn't really much of a lockdown anyway

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By *hilledOutGuy1Man
over a year ago

Not far away


"Possibly,yes,not definitely,but possibly.

Definitely no one from the forums though

Far too judgmental "

I am quickly learning about your last point!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

no

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views.

I have been ignoring the government advice from even before they gave advice for the first time. I will meet people when i believe it's safe to meet people. Which is not now, hasn't been since February, and is highly unlikely to be soon. I'm unhappy and depressed with the situation, but i have family members who might well die if i caught it and passed it along to them. I won't be waiting for an all clear signal from bojo though, I'll assess the evidence on my own and be out and about again when it really is safe.

I'm interested to know what advice you are going by that allows you to make that decision? "

I look at the cases and deaths figures most days on worldmeter and other sites, for the uk/eu/usa/india etc, and look at the week by week trends. I compare the new cases curve against the new deaths curve to get a feel of how one is tracking the other - this helps me cancel out to some extent any effects of testing over/under sampling, and over/under attributing deaths to covid. I look at cases/deaths per million population rather than just straight figures, but also at how densely populated my area is to get some kind of rough feel for how fast it might spread and how likely it might be that i get close to any person carrying the virus. I'm no microbiology expert but i do have a halfway decent working knowledge of how DNA/RNA works, viral replication, cellular mechanics, the immune system, disease vectors. I have a good way with mathematics that helps me estimate the trends. And I don't have any specific financial or political pressures to bias me in either direction. Especially no desperate need for popularity pushing me to tell people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear (unlike many in government constantly chasing public support).

On balance i probability still won't meet until well after the government drops their restrictions.

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views.

I have been ignoring the government advice from even before they gave advice for the first time. I will meet people when i believe it's safe to meet people. Which is not now, hasn't been since February, and is highly unlikely to be soon. I'm unhappy and depressed with the situation, but i have family members who might well die if i caught it and passed it along to them. I won't be waiting for an all clear signal from bojo though, I'll assess the evidence on my own and be out and about again when it really is safe.

I'm interested to know what advice you are going by that allows you to make that decision?

I look at the cases and deaths figures most days on worldmeter and other sites, for the uk/eu/usa/india etc, and look at the week by week trends. I compare the new cases curve against the new deaths curve to get a feel of how one is tracking the other - this helps me cancel out to some extent any effects of testing over/under sampling, and over/under attributing deaths to covid. I look at cases/deaths per million population rather than just straight figures, but also at how densely populated my area is to get some kind of rough feel for how fast it might spread and how likely it might be that i get close to any person carrying the virus. I'm no microbiology expert but i do have a halfway decent working knowledge of how DNA/RNA works, viral replication, cellular mechanics, the immune system, disease vectors. I have a good way with mathematics that helps me estimate the trends. And I don't have any specific financial or political pressures to bias me in either direction. Especially no desperate need for popularity pushing me to tell people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear (unlike many in government constantly chasing public support).

On balance i probability still won't meet until well after the government drops their restrictions."

You stated you havent followed government advice yet you say you probably wont meet until well after they drop their restrictions? So following them to a certain extent!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

It's common sense rather than following rules surely ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes we would.

The first lockdown we took very seriously.

Little was known about Covid and it felt like a genuine attempt to control the virus, emtpy roads, everyone who could be at home was.

This lockdown is just a joke, with kids back at school and most people still working its pointless.

"

Surely this is the sort of attitude that is compounding the problem?

In answer to your question OP, no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Lemmings

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield

We use the same rules as we use to avoid a STI, they have served us well for nearly 40 years and we see no reason to change now.

To put it simply no we would not meet

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Currently I don’t trust either the testing process or the measurement data for the pandemic. I will be managing the risks very conservatively until I’m clearer what is actually going on. I have been taking less risks than the government guidelines would allow from well before lockdown 1.0.

With 7 extremely vulnerable adults in my extended family, plus having a medical condition that increases my risk, I probably will not go back to meeting at all, even after it is deemed safe to do so. The pandemic has triggered a re-evaluation of swinging for me and it’s potential risks.

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek

Nope.

The government are still trying to keep an economy going at the same time as advising the MINIMUM we can do to keep as safe as reasonably possible.

I'll take their minimum and raise it to my own standards.

We have a duty of care to ourselves AND to others regardless of whether we know them or not. It's called a conscience.

Do you cross a road coz you put all your faith and trust in a flashing green man or do you still look both ways just in case?

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By *uenevereWoman
over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"Nope.

The government are still trying to keep an economy going at the same time as advising the MINIMUM we can do to keep as safe as reasonably possible.

I'll take their minimum and raise it to my own standards.

We have a duty of care to ourselves AND to others regardless of whether we know them or not. It's called a conscience.

Do you cross a road coz you put all your faith and trust in a flashing green man or do you still look both ways just in case?"

Exactly this.

Whilst I appreciate that I am married so I am still having sex, the answer would be the same if I was single.

I enjoy sex but not at the expense of my health or that of others.

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By *iznLesCouple
over a year ago

Trowbridge

This thing isn’t going away anytime soon , so what is everyone going to sit in a bubble forever?

I have had it and so have most of my family, am sat here with anxiety over a future that’s being fucked about with and out my hands!

I cannot meet at minute because I am at sea, but when opportunities arise they will be taken.

Not trying to offend anyone these are my thoughts and my partners

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"This thing isn’t going away anytime soon , so what is everyone going to sit in a bubble forever?

I have had it and so have most of my family, am sat here with anxiety over a future that’s being fucked about with and out my hands!

I cannot meet at minute because I am at sea, but when opportunities arise they will be taken.

Not trying to offend anyone these are my thoughts and my partners "

I think many many people have anxiety at the moment.

I was frightened every day I went to work, because of the public that didn't follow the guidelines and rules.

I have anxiety over going back after this furlough, at least last lockdown people were following the rules far more than they are this time round.

It's not good for mental health that's for certain.

People don't need to remain hidden from the world forever but basic consideration and care taken, like both parties properly self isolating for 2 weeks (no shopping, no nipping to the chippy)

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"This thing isn’t going away anytime soon , so what is everyone going to sit in a bubble forever?

I have had it and so have most of my family, am sat here with anxiety over a future that’s being fucked about with and out my hands!

I cannot meet at minute because I am at sea, but when opportunities arise they will be taken.

Not trying to offend anyone these are my thoughts and my partners "

I can live without sex. I can live without in person contact.

I could not live with myself if I spread a novel disease to another person and risked their long term disability or death.

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By *ockosaurusMan
over a year ago

Warwick

If we didn't, we'd end up like American where nearly quarter of a million people have died from it so far

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a NO from us

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nhs nurse.. ive had enough. Seriously had enough. My face is on fire wearing ppe all day.

Im not meeting.. just wish there was an injection of common sense or logic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views."

No, not just for myself but also for other people!

I would feel bad about passing it to others who could die

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By *urflrCouple
over a year ago

wirral


"Nhs nurse.. ive had enough. Seriously had enough. My face is on fire wearing ppe all day.

Im not meeting.. just wish there was an injection of common sense or logic"

Exactly, I’m in social care, we were ok through the first wave, second wave so far has been a total and utter shitstorm. Too many funerals. No way on earth would I meet any time soon x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I haven't hugged my parents or adult children since March so why would I have sex with a stranger ?"

That says it all doesn’t it, great reply! ????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Possibly,yes,not definitely,but possibly.

Definitely no one from the forums though

Far too judgmental "

We all have our own opinions, that doesn’t make us judgemental it makes for democracy

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By *rincess peachWoman
over a year ago

shits creek


"Nhs nurse.. ive had enough. Seriously had enough. My face is on fire wearing ppe all day.

Im not meeting.. just wish there was an injection of common sense or logic"

Thank you for your hard work, I know claps and me saying thank you doesn't cut it. The authentic way for the people of this country to say thank you is by staying the fuck at home. That would actually help you. I'm sorry they're too inconsiderate to do so.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Carer here. No I wouldn't meet. I've had men tell me they are covid tested trying to get a meet. They need to grow up and stay home

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nope.

The government are still trying to keep an economy going at the same time as advising the MINIMUM we can do to keep as safe as reasonably possible.

I'll take their minimum and raise it to my own standards.

We have a duty of care to ourselves AND to others regardless of whether we know them or not. It's called a conscience.

Do you cross a road coz you put all your faith and trust in a flashing green man or do you still look both ways just in case?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

listen to yourselves, how you’ve all been easily manipulated to vilify and discriminate anyone who doesn’t cower down to nonsensical guidelines. It’s less deadly than the flu or any other virus and your prepared to let the country and peoples livelihoods collapse because your TV told you it was for the greater good and to keep nana safe.

Your same people who will turn a blind eye, when people who question or refuse to be vaccinated start being rounded up into trains by 21st century SS officers.

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"So my question is, if there was currently no lockdown but simply government advice not to meet, would you ?? Just curious about peoples views.

I have been ignoring the government advice from even before they gave advice for the first time. I will meet people when i believe it's safe to meet people. Which is not now, hasn't been since February, and is highly unlikely to be soon. I'm unhappy and depressed with the situation, but i have family members who might well die if i caught it and passed it along to them. I won't be waiting for an all clear signal from bojo though, I'll assess the evidence on my own and be out and about again when it really is safe.

I'm interested to know what advice you are going by that allows you to make that decision?

I look at the cases and deaths figures most days on worldmeter and other sites, for the uk/eu/usa/india etc, and look at the week by week trends. I compare the new cases curve against the new deaths curve to get a feel of how one is tracking the other - this helps me cancel out to some extent any effects of testing over/under sampling, and over/under attributing deaths to covid. I look at cases/deaths per million population rather than just straight figures, but also at how densely populated my area is to get some kind of rough feel for how fast it might spread and how likely it might be that i get close to any person carrying the virus. I'm no microbiology expert but i do have a halfway decent working knowledge of how DNA/RNA works, viral replication, cellular mechanics, the immune system, disease vectors. I have a good way with mathematics that helps me estimate the trends. And I don't have any specific financial or political pressures to bias me in either direction. Especially no desperate need for popularity pushing me to tell people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear (unlike many in government constantly chasing public support).

On balance i probability still won't meet until well after the government drops their restrictions.

You stated you havent followed government advice yet you say you probably wont meet until well after they drop their restrictions? So following them to a certain extent! "

Well no, I'm making my own restrictions, and generally being much stricter with myself than the government regs. I voluntarily started isolating myself several weeks before bojo finally realised there was a problem...

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By *olly_chromaticTV/TS
over a year ago

Stockport


"If we didn't, we'd end up like American where nearly quarter of a million people have died from it so far "

Deaths per million population, we're actually doing a lot worse than the states...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"listen to yourselves, how you’ve all been easily manipulated to vilify and discriminate anyone who doesn’t cower down to nonsensical guidelines. It’s less deadly than the flu or any other virus and your prepared to let the country and peoples livelihoods collapse because your TV told you it was for the greater good and to keep nana safe.

Your same people who will turn a blind eye, when people who question or refuse to be vaccinated start being rounded up into trains by 21st century SS officers. "

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/heartbreak-despair-covid-heroism-inside-19314519

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"listen to yourselves, how you’ve all been easily manipulated to vilify and discriminate anyone who doesn’t cower down to nonsensical guidelines. It’s less deadly than the flu or any other virus and your prepared to let the country and peoples livelihoods collapse because your TV told you it was for the greater good and to keep nana safe.

Your same people who will turn a blind eye, when people who question or refuse to be vaccinated start being rounded up into trains by 21st century SS officers. "

All hail the saviour

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"listen to yourselves, how you’ve all been easily manipulated to vilify and discriminate anyone who doesn’t cower down to nonsensical guidelines. It’s less deadly than the flu or any other virus and your prepared to let the country and peoples livelihoods collapse because your TV told you it was for the greater good and to keep nana safe.

Your same people who will turn a blind eye, when people who question or refuse to be vaccinated start being rounded up into trains by 21st century SS officers. "

I listen.

I hear people who are community minded and recognise the dangers of a pandemic, sometimes in spite of what government says.

I see people doing their best to bring this under control so we *can* rebuild.

I also see people caught up in lies and prepared to throw the Third Reich around when they don't get what they want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"listen to yourselves, how you’ve all been easily manipulated to vilify and discriminate anyone who doesn’t cower down to nonsensical guidelines. It’s less deadly than the flu or any other virus and your prepared to let the country and peoples livelihoods collapse because your TV told you it was for the greater good and to keep nana safe.

Your same people who will turn a blind eye, when people who question or refuse to be vaccinated start being rounded up into trains by 21st century SS officers.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/heartbreak-despair-covid-heroism-inside-19314519"

"There is another glum look from the staff when I ask about his chances of survival - they've seen too much this year to expect anything other than the worst.

They find it hard to believe that some people believe this virus has gone away - or that it isn't as serious as suggested.

I'm told about the taxi driver who died with his 10-year-old son watching through the nearby door, hands pressed helplessly against the glass."

-For people who haven't read the article in the link.

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By *izandpaulCouple
over a year ago

merseyside

Take it you mean swinging meets not general family and friends meets.

For us no to all, haven't found this or any lockdown too much of an issue.

If washing my mitts, wearing a piece of paper over my face and keeping a meter or two away from people can save lives I'm fine with that.

If its found washing hands, facemasks, distancing has all been a waste of time, I won't see it as an inconvenience.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Take it you mean swinging meets not general family and friends meets.

For us no to all, haven't found this or any lockdown too much of an issue.

If washing my mitts, wearing a piece of paper over my face and keeping a meter or two away from people can save lives I'm fine with that.

If its found washing hands, facemasks, distancing has all been a waste of time, I won't see it as an inconvenience.

"

Yes.

Risk/ benefit.

A bit of inconvenience, dermatitis, and loneliness for me is well worth it: the evidence suggests that doing that as a collective will bring this crisis to an end.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I dont usually post on these forums but whilst I agree with this not being a lockdown this time around as a lot of people have said with people still working, kids going to school etc. I personally think it is stupid and irresponsible to meet people you do not know especially for any kind of sexual activity, but I also dont think we've ever really had a full lockdown at all, not to the levels of some European countries where you simply couldn't go out without a legitimate reason but then this was enforced proactively by law. Anyway that's my opinion.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I dont usually post on these forums but whilst I agree with this not being a lockdown this time around as a lot of people have said with people still working, kids going to school etc. I personally think it is stupid and irresponsible to meet people you do not know especially for any kind of sexual activity, but I also dont think we've ever really had a full lockdown at all, not to the levels of some European countries where you simply couldn't go out without a legitimate reason but then this was enforced proactively by law. Anyway that's my opinion."

No, we certainly haven't had a full lockdown. For pity's sake.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

No, we certainly haven't had a full lockdown. For pity's sake."

Maybe if we had we might be in a different place now, but we will never know.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


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No, we certainly haven't had a full lockdown. For pity's sake.

Maybe if we had we might be in a different place now, but we will never know."

I suspect we might be. Comparable numbers in Victoria in our summer to the whole of the UK, and they've suppressed that shit.

I'd certainly rather have had a month or two of utter misery than indefinite partial misery.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I dont usually post on these forums but whilst I agree with this not being a lockdown this time around as a lot of people have said with people still working, kids going to school etc. I personally think it is stupid and irresponsible to meet people you do not know especially for any kind of sexual activity, but I also dont think we've ever really had a full lockdown at all, not to the levels of some European countries where you simply couldn't go out without a legitimate reason but then this was enforced proactively by law. Anyway that's my opinion."

True our lockdown was nothing compared to the likes of Spain, France, Italy etc. Yet here we are all in the same boat.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"I dont usually post on these forums but whilst I agree with this not being a lockdown this time around as a lot of people have said with people still working, kids going to school etc. I personally think it is stupid and irresponsible to meet people you do not know especially for any kind of sexual activity, but I also dont think we've ever really had a full lockdown at all, not to the levels of some European countries where you simply couldn't go out without a legitimate reason but then this was enforced proactively by law. Anyway that's my opinion.

True our lockdown was nothing compared to the likes of Spain, France, Italy etc. Yet here we are all in the same boat."

In August, rounding down, the state of Victoria in Australia had 700ish cases a day, considered a disaster. It more or less coincided with the UK posting similar numbers.

Per head of population, 700 cases in Victoria is about 14 cases per 100000 people. 700 cases in the UK is about 1 per 100k people. (I'm not taking into account that the vast majority of cases in Victoria were in metropolitan Melbourne, with population density comparable to British cities before anyone talks about cattle ranches in Western Australia which are wholly irrelevant)

Victoria locked down hard.

I'll give the UK a handicap because apparently we need it.

In the last 22 days Victoria has had 0/100k new cases of Covid.

In the last day (rounding UK population up, rounding infection rate down - twice) the UK has had 29/100k of its population get positive tests.

Hope this helps.

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over a year ago

If only the uk population was based just around the coast.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"If only the uk population was based just around the coast."

If only I already addressed this point

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The UK is world beating, incredible, amazing.

And yet.

I take a situation that's much worse per head of population and compared to infrastructure to cope.

Apart from rounding down to 700, I round in the UK's favour in all cases (UK population up, UK cases down, fraction per 100k down).

I compare over three weeks of Victorian data to one day in the UK.

I explicitly point out that the vast majority of transmission occurred in a city comparable to UK cities - and yet didn't make the Victorian situation look worse by excluding regional and outback Victoria.

And yet our world beating amazing can't be criticised country still does astronomically worse despite every allowance given. And it doesn't count because the UK is special.

I like to hold the UK to the same standards as other first world countries, because I believe it capable of being one. *shrug*

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If only the uk population was based just around the coast.

If only I already addressed this point "

So instead of comparing us to other European countries were lockdown has had limited effect you compare us to an Australian city.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"If only the uk population was based just around the coast.

If only I already addressed this point

So instead of comparing us to other European countries were lockdown has had limited effect you compare us to an Australian city."

I compare a culturally similar city with similar resources per head of population and similar strategies available to it.

With similar numbers at a point in August so we can see a difference in strategies.

Comparing systems that are all failing in various ways doesn't teach us much, unless your argument is "we're amazing and it can't be helped". It can be helped.

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