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"Where did you get those numbers from ?" You can get the figures from Worldometer x | |||
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"And they have past the quarter of a million in deaths...it just goes to show what incompetent leadership can achive " Quite. | |||
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"And they have past the quarter of a million in deaths...it just goes to show what incompetent leadership can achive " Or an uncontrollable, highly mobile, easily spread virus can do, particularly when people organise mass "I'm not wearing a mask because it infringes xyz stupid excuse" rallys and the "You can't make me, I'm going to do what I want" brigade. The orange one hasn't helped for sure, but to place all of the blame at his doorstep....... E | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " Quarter of a million deaths. Nope nothing to see here it's all a scam | |||
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"And they have past the quarter of a million in deaths...it just goes to show what incompetent leadership can achive Or an uncontrollable, highly mobile, easily spread virus can do, particularly when people organise mass "I'm not wearing a mask because it infringes xyz stupid excuse" rallys and the "You can't make me, I'm going to do what I want" brigade. The orange one hasn't helped for sure, but to place all of the blame at his doorstep....... E" Poor/negligent leadership at the top. Insufficient welfare support insufficiently topped up. Healthcare inequality. Lack of unity between fairly distinct political groups (states). Politicisation of disease mitigation (see also poor leadership). Rampant individualism. | |||
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"And they have past the quarter of a million in deaths...it just goes to show what incompetent leadership can achive Or an uncontrollable, highly mobile, easily spread virus can do, particularly when people organise mass "I'm not wearing a mask because it infringes xyz stupid excuse" rallys and the "You can't make me, I'm going to do what I want" brigade. The orange one hasn't helped for sure, but to place all of the blame at his doorstep....... E" The orange one is still responsible for the country and its people. Citizens are never responsible for their leaders individual actions. He has stoked the fires, lit others and ensured enough fuel was thrown on to them. Now he is doing nothing about reducing the catastrophe as his sole focus is helping himself by preventing his successor taking interim power, to manage the recovery for the country. He's wasting resources in the legal system, at any cost to the wellbeing of the people. As for the invalid trope thrown out ad nauseum about the PCR tests being meaningless by the other poster, that's just BS, as has been substantiated every single time they insist on posting the same tired nonsense. | |||
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"And they have past the quarter of a million in deaths...it just goes to show what incompetent leadership can achive Or an uncontrollable, highly mobile, easily spread virus can do, particularly when people organise mass "I'm not wearing a mask because it infringes xyz stupid excuse" rallys and the "You can't make me, I'm going to do what I want" brigade. The orange one hasn't helped for sure, but to place all of the blame at his doorstep....... E The orange one is still responsible for the country and its people. Citizens are never responsible for their leaders individual actions. He has stoked the fires, lit others and ensured enough fuel was thrown on to them. Now he is doing nothing about reducing the catastrophe as his sole focus is helping himself by preventing his successor taking interim power, to manage the recovery for the country. He's wasting resources in the legal system, at any cost to the wellbeing of the people. As for the invalid trope thrown out ad nauseum about the PCR tests being meaningless by the other poster, that's just BS, as has been substantiated every single time they insist on posting the same tired nonsense. " Who needs facts or evidence when you have an ideology and a line | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " Overused BS that you keep insisting on posting. You help nobody. | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " Yeah yeah...every single one of your thousands of so called 'experts' that have bad-mouthed the PCR tests and questioned their accuracy, effectiveness and viability have been debunked, discredited and publicly humiliated. They really should hang their heads in shame for disagreeing with mainstream health experts. The science is settled and there is no room for debate or questioning the people who have the health of the entire world at heart. ....so think on the next time you bring an alternative opinion to the forum. | |||
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"He's making sure that Biden inherits a massive problem so he can point the finger later. " It doesn't suit him to sort out the problem. | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " isn't it strange the way flawed pcr tests have killed way over a million people world wide. Or maybe .... | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " That’s bollox for so many reasons. I can’t be bothered to argue about it any more. | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " Still bollocks | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. Still bollocks " Beyond bollocks Criminal | |||
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"Something doesn't add up in total from day zero the us has had 11,877,344 cases where is this 1 million from? " Almost a million new infections in the last WEEK Well over a million DEATHS worldwide | |||
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"And they have past the quarter of a million in deaths...it just goes to show what incompetent leadership can achive Or an uncontrollable, highly mobile, easily spread virus can do, particularly when people organise mass "I'm not wearing a mask because it infringes xyz stupid excuse" rallys and the "You can't make me, I'm going to do what I want" brigade. The orange one hasn't helped for sure, but to place all of the blame at his doorstep....... E The orange one is still responsible for the country and its people. Citizens are never responsible for their leaders individual actions. He has stoked the fires, lit others and ensured enough fuel was thrown on to them. Now he is doing nothing about reducing the catastrophe as his sole focus is helping himself by preventing his successor taking interim power, to manage the recovery for the country. He's wasting resources in the legal system, at any cost to the wellbeing of the people. As for the invalid trope thrown out ad nauseum about the PCR tests being meaningless by the other poster, that's just BS, as has been substantiated every single time they insist on posting the same tired nonsense. " Which is why I said "He hasn't helped" E | |||
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"And they have past the quarter of a million in deaths...it just goes to show what incompetent leadership can achive Or an uncontrollable, highly mobile, easily spread virus can do, particularly when people organise mass "I'm not wearing a mask because it infringes xyz stupid excuse" rallys and the "You can't make me, I'm going to do what I want" brigade. The orange one hasn't helped for sure, but to place all of the blame at his doorstep....... E Poor/negligent leadership at the top. Insufficient welfare support insufficiently topped up. Healthcare inequality. Lack of unity between fairly distinct political groups (states). Politicisation of disease mitigation (see also poor leadership). Rampant individualism." It's almost like we're mirroring the US...... E | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " Can you explain what you mean by "amplification cycles" as it doesn't seem to read correct in the context it's being used? | |||
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"And they have past the quarter of a million in deaths...it just goes to show what incompetent leadership can achive Or an uncontrollable, highly mobile, easily spread virus can do, particularly when people organise mass "I'm not wearing a mask because it infringes xyz stupid excuse" rallys and the "You can't make me, I'm going to do what I want" brigade. The orange one hasn't helped for sure, but to place all of the blame at his doorstep....... E Poor/negligent leadership at the top. Insufficient welfare support insufficiently topped up. Healthcare inequality. Lack of unity between fairly distinct political groups (states). Politicisation of disease mitigation (see also poor leadership). Rampant individualism. It's almost like we're mirroring the US...... E" Yup *Sigh* | |||
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"And they have past the quarter of a million in deaths...it just goes to show what incompetent leadership can achive Or an uncontrollable, highly mobile, easily spread virus can do, particularly when people organise mass "I'm not wearing a mask because it infringes xyz stupid excuse" rallys and the "You can't make me, I'm going to do what I want" brigade. The orange one hasn't helped for sure, but to place all of the blame at his doorstep....... E Poor/negligent leadership at the top. Insufficient welfare support insufficiently topped up. Healthcare inequality. Lack of unity between fairly distinct political groups (states). Politicisation of disease mitigation (see also poor leadership). Rampant individualism. It's almost like we're mirroring the US...... E" The wearing of masks hasn't been politicised thankfully. Stupidity and selfishness isn't confined by geography though, so there's that. | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. Can you explain what you mean by "amplification cycles" as it doesn't seem to read correct in the context it's being used? " Probably some shite posted in Karen's facebook by a certified dumbass trying to discredit the pcr test but they haven't a clue how or why it works or the man the invented it said it's doesn't work for Covid that died before Covid started Clinging onto straws of disbelief a bit like trump | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. Can you explain what you mean by "amplification cycles" as it doesn't seem to read correct in the context it's being used? Probably some shite posted in Karen's facebook by a certified dumbass trying to discredit the pcr test but they haven't a clue how or why it works or the man the invented it said it's doesn't work for Covid that died before Covid started Clinging onto straws of disbelief a bit like trump" I had thought it was the cycles to detect virus, but I'm pretty sure there's an established threshold to determine infectivity. (Based on my understanding of listening to virologists) | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. Can you explain what you mean by "amplification cycles" as it doesn't seem to read correct in the context it's being used? Probably some shite posted in Karen's facebook by a certified dumbass trying to discredit the pcr test but they haven't a clue how or why it works or the man the invented it said it's doesn't work for Covid that died before Covid started Clinging onto straws of disbelief a bit like trump I had thought it was the cycles to detect virus, but I'm pretty sure there's an established threshold to determine infectivity. (Based on my understanding of listening to virologists)" Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) PCR is a method used to amplify DNA. All you need is your DNA, primers (small pieces of DNA) complementary to two sites in your DNA (one on each strand), a heat-stable polymerase (enzyme that can make DNA according to a certain template), nucleotides and a heat-cycler. By adding all the ingredients and heating and cooling the mixture in certain preprogrammed cycles, you can amplify the DNA between the two primers. The number of double stranded DNA pieces is doubled in each cycle, so that after n cycles you have 2^n (2 to the n:th power) copies of DNA. For example, after 10 cycles you have 1024 copies, after 20 cycles you have about one million copies, etc. | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. Can you explain what you mean by "amplification cycles" as it doesn't seem to read correct in the context it's being used? Probably some shite posted in Karen's facebook by a certified dumbass trying to discredit the pcr test but they haven't a clue how or why it works or the man the invented it said it's doesn't work for Covid that died before Covid started Clinging onto straws of disbelief a bit like trump I had thought it was the cycles to detect virus, but I'm pretty sure there's an established threshold to determine infectivity. (Based on my understanding of listening to virologists) Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) PCR is a method used to amplify DNA. All you need is your DNA, primers (small pieces of DNA) complementary to two sites in your DNA (one on each strand), a heat-stable polymerase (enzyme that can make DNA according to a certain template), nucleotides and a heat-cycler. By adding all the ingredients and heating and cooling the mixture in certain preprogrammed cycles, you can amplify the DNA between the two primers. The number of double stranded DNA pieces is doubled in each cycle, so that after n cycles you have 2^n (2 to the n:th power) copies of DNA. For example, after 10 cycles you have 1024 copies, after 20 cycles you have about one million copies, etc." Yeah that's what I was thinking | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. " And again ... isn't it strange the way flawed pcr tests have killed way over a million people world wide. Or maybe .... | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. And again ... isn't it strange the way flawed pcr tests have killed way over a million people world wide. Or maybe .... " Not as strange as the fact people keep insisting that the test is "flawed" even though the scientists say differently. | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. And again ... isn't it strange the way flawed pcr tests have killed way over a million people world wide. Or maybe .... Not as strange as the fact people keep insisting that the test is "flawed" even though the scientists say differently." It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. And again ... isn't it strange the way flawed pcr tests have killed way over a million people world wide. Or maybe .... Not as strange as the fact people keep insisting that the test is "flawed" even though the scientists say differently. It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue" Quite | |||
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"Why do cases matter? They are nothing be flawed PCR tests with a massive number of false positives. All they have is an epidemic of cases. These are not cases of proved infection or sickness just a statistical nonsense from running a test that cannot determine infections for too many amplification cycles. Still bollocks Beyond bollocks Criminal" So professor Carl Heneghan can be expected to be seen in court shortly then. | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue" Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. " | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. " Soooo Let me understand You don't know how the test works But you think it's flawed ?? How did you come to that conclusion ? And I'm a dictator because you don't understand how a test works ? There might be some weird logic in there .... Nah ... There isn't | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. Soooo Let me understand You don't know how the test works But you think it's flawed ?? How did you come to that conclusion ? And I'm a dictator because you don't understand how a test works ? There might be some weird logic in there .... Nah ... There isn't " Yup, crackpot logic, right there. It's like when someone says "I'm no expert but........" and then proceeds to give you their expert opinion. E | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. Soooo Let me understand You don't know how the test works But you think it's flawed ?? How did you come to that conclusion ? And I'm a dictator because you don't understand how a test works ? There might be some weird logic in there .... Nah ... There isn't " Never said I don't know how the test work, what I said is: "don't fully understand". Being a front line worker and a frequent traveler, we've been tested more times than most of the people on this forums and that's how we came to the conclusion the testing is totally flawed. | |||
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"I'll listen to people who do know how things work. Funny that " Unfortunately as it turns out, people who claim they know how things work, very often don't. | |||
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"I'll listen to people who do know how things work. Funny that Unfortunately as it turns out, people who claim they know how things work, very often don't. " I'm aware. But I'll trust expertise and learning over "I don't know how it works but it doesn't". | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. Soooo Let me understand You don't know how the test works But you think it's flawed ?? How did you come to that conclusion ? And I'm a dictator because you don't understand how a test works ? There might be some weird logic in there .... Nah ... There isn't Never said I don't know how the test work, what I said is: "don't fully understand". Being a front line worker and a frequent traveler, we've been tested more times than most of the people on this forums and that's how we came to the conclusion the testing is totally flawed. " I'm simply asking how you can say something is flawed when you don't understand it dispite the fact it's a "gold stamdard" test accepted worldwide I could understand if you had 20 years experience in genetic research that you could have an opinion but you don't. | |||
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"I'll listen to people who do know how things work. Funny that Unfortunately as it turns out, people who claim they know how things work, very often don't. I'm aware. But I'll trust expertise and learning over "I don't know how it works but it doesn't"." Was trying to stick to the same principles for some time, but when seeing a lot of experts being silenced, and experience the flaws in the testing yourself, just to be told you're not entitled an opinion seems a bit harsh to say the least. | |||
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"I'll listen to people who do know how things work. Funny that Unfortunately as it turns out, people who claim they know how things work, very often don't. " And this post is a great example of the 21st century phenomenon known as the death of expertise. The greater the access to and sharing of knowledge has resulted in this bizarre feature of our times. What was it Michael Gove said about being tired of experts? | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. Soooo Let me understand You don't know how the test works But you think it's flawed ?? How did you come to that conclusion ? And I'm a dictator because you don't understand how a test works ? There might be some weird logic in there .... Nah ... There isn't Never said I don't know how the test work, what I said is: "don't fully understand". Being a front line worker and a frequent traveler, we've been tested more times than most of the people on this forums and that's how we came to the conclusion the testing is totally flawed. I'm simply asking how you can say something is flawed when you don't understand it dispite the fact it's a "gold stamdard" test accepted worldwide I could understand if you had 20 years experience in genetic research that you could have an opinion but you don't." I don't need 20 years of experience in genetic research to express an opinion. My opinion is formed on personal experience with testing and I am fully entitled to one. | |||
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"I'll listen to people who do know how things work. Funny that Unfortunately as it turns out, people who claim they know how things work, very often don't. I'm aware. But I'll trust expertise and learning over "I don't know how it works but it doesn't"." E | |||
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"I'll listen to people who do know how things work. Funny that Unfortunately as it turns out, people who claim they know how things work, very often don't. I'm aware. But I'll trust expertise and learning over "I don't know how it works but it doesn't". Was trying to stick to the same principles for some time, but when seeing a lot of experts being silenced, and experience the flaws in the testing yourself, just to be told you're not entitled an opinion seems a bit harsh to say the least. " Yeah ok that kind of nonsense. I see | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. Soooo Let me understand You don't know how the test works But you think it's flawed ?? How did you come to that conclusion ? And I'm a dictator because you don't understand how a test works ? There might be some weird logic in there .... Nah ... There isn't Never said I don't know how the test work, what I said is: "don't fully understand". Being a front line worker and a frequent traveler, we've been tested more times than most of the people on this forums and that's how we came to the conclusion the testing is totally flawed. I'm simply asking how you can say something is flawed when you don't understand it dispite the fact it's a "gold stamdard" test accepted worldwide I could understand if you had 20 years experience in genetic research that you could have an opinion but you don't. I don't need 20 years of experience in genetic research to express an opinion. My opinion is formed on personal experience with testing and I am fully entitled to one. " You're entitled to an opinion. You're not entitled to facts or to be taken seriously. | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. Soooo Let me understand You don't know how the test works But you think it's flawed ?? How did you come to that conclusion ? And I'm a dictator because you don't understand how a test works ? There might be some weird logic in there .... Nah ... There isn't Never said I don't know how the test work, what I said is: "don't fully understand". Being a front line worker and a frequent traveler, we've been tested more times than most of the people on this forums and that's how we came to the conclusion the testing is totally flawed. I'm simply asking how you can say something is flawed when you don't understand it dispite the fact it's a "gold stamdard" test accepted worldwide I could understand if you had 20 years experience in genetic research that you could have an opinion but you don't. I don't need 20 years of experience in genetic research to express an opinion. My opinion is formed on personal experience with testing and I am fully entitled to one. You're entitled to an opinion. You're not entitled to facts or to be taken seriously." OK thanks! | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. Soooo Let me understand You don't know how the test works But you think it's flawed ?? How did you come to that conclusion ? And I'm a dictator because you don't understand how a test works ? There might be some weird logic in there .... Nah ... There isn't Never said I don't know how the test work, what I said is: "don't fully understand". Being a front line worker and a frequent traveler, we've been tested more times than most of the people on this forums and that's how we came to the conclusion the testing is totally flawed. I'm simply asking how you can say something is flawed when you don't understand it dispite the fact it's a "gold stamdard" test accepted worldwide I could understand if you had 20 years experience in genetic research that you could have an opinion but you don't. I don't need 20 years of experience in genetic research to express an opinion. My opinion is formed on personal experience with testing and I am fully entitled to one. " Absolutely NOT you're entitled to an opinion ON YOUR TEST You know nothing about the testing of others fact. | |||
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"More tests = more postive results. Sheep of the world in this post " Talk about stating the obvious, are you trying to use that to say there is a problem or some other agenda, not quite sure what that's about | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. " Oh, and what are your sources and evidence then? | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. " Honestly I’m glad someone said it, I’ve been around people who’ve caught covid. High risk people as well. It hasn’t been anywhere near as bad as the government would have you believe. If you still trust the governments of the world In this day and age then you really should give your head a wobble. Start living outside of social media and the mindless dribble the newspapers put out. The death rate is only as high as it is because they count every death as a covid death if the Person has been confirmed positive within 28days. | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. " Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. Soooo Let me understand You don't know how the test works But you think it's flawed ?? How did you come to that conclusion ? And I'm a dictator because you don't understand how a test works ? There might be some weird logic in there .... Nah ... There isn't Never said I don't know how the test work, what I said is: "don't fully understand". Being a front line worker and a frequent traveler, we've been tested more times than most of the people on this forums and that's how we came to the conclusion the testing is totally flawed. I'm simply asking how you can say something is flawed when you don't understand it dispite the fact it's a "gold stamdard" test accepted worldwide I could understand if you had 20 years experience in genetic research that you could have an opinion but you don't. I don't need 20 years of experience in genetic research to express an opinion. My opinion is formed on personal experience with testing and I am fully entitled to one. Absolutely NOT you're entitled to an opinion ON YOUR TEST You know nothing about the testing of others fact." You are actually FUNNY. | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also?" It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v | |||
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"US 340 million people UK 60 million people We are going to have higher covid positives no matter how you look at it and deaths." In fact when working by death rate per million of population, the UK current daily figures are about 3 times worse than the USA as a whole. Although there are some individual states in the US that are worse than the UK average. It's tricky on balance to decide who is winning the race to kill more of their country people, the orange one or the blonde bozo... | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v " I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? | |||
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"US 340 million people UK 60 million people We are going to have higher covid positives no matter how you look at it and deaths. In fact when working by death rate per million of population, the UK current daily figures are about 3 times worse than the USA as a whole. Although there are some individual states in the US that are worse than the UK average. It's tricky on balance to decide who is winning the race to kill more of their country people, the orange one or the blonde bozo..." Exactly it's winter more people indoors. South dakota ect. Is getting snow rates will climb. We don't have lockdown here just mitigation. Wear masks and social distancing. | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? " Pah. Evidence. That's what lizard people would ask for. | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? Pah. Evidence. That's what lizard people would ask for." They're not real though.. Or are they... | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. " so 3000 people died last week because they tested more... dream on | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? Pah. Evidence. That's what lizard people would ask for. They're not real though.. Or are they... " *X Files music* | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? Pah. Evidence. That's what lizard people would ask for. They're not real though.. Or are they... *X Files music*" theres brainwashed and then theres brain dead | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? Pah. Evidence. That's what lizard people would ask for. They're not real though.. Or are they... *X Files music*" Do doo doo do do doo.. Doo do do doo do doo.. I think.. | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? Pah. Evidence. That's what lizard people would ask for. They're not real though.. Or are they... *X Files music* theres brainwashed and then theres brain dead" I'm not being serious | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/19/covid-who-one-death-17-seconds-europe-hans-kluge Just for the deniers...one person dies every 17 seconds from covid just in Europe....no doubt they all going to die anyway eh..." Probably all on death's door Those with long Covid... We would have discovered that they were defective if not for the plandemic... | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. so 3000 people died last week because they tested more... dream on" Maybe it's the tests that are killing them. Can't believe no one's thought of that. I mean, you know, when that chip they put in to track us all works it's way round to the heart, it's bound to clog it up, isn't it....... E *some, none or all of the above may or may not be entirely correct. **some will believe every word of it.... | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? Pah. Evidence. That's what lizard people would ask for. They're not real though.. Or are they... *X Files music* theres brainwashed and then theres brain dead I'm not being serious " You've got it all wrong, it's definitely not the lizard people. The 5G emissions play havok with the magnetic receptors in their forehead antennae, sends them dizzy. They all had to go back to mercury last year. No, my belief is that this is caused by the sand burrowers from mars, the planets are near closest approach and now that the lizard people have gone it's left us wire open for invasion and assimilation. | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? Pah. Evidence. That's what lizard people would ask for. They're not real though.. Or are they... *X Files music* theres brainwashed and then theres brain dead I'm not being serious You've got it all wrong, it's definitely not the lizard people. The 5G emissions play havok with the magnetic receptors in their forehead antennae, sends them dizzy. They all had to go back to mercury last year. No, my belief is that this is caused by the sand burrowers from mars, the planets are near closest approach and now that the lizard people have gone it's left us wire open for invasion and assimilation. " You're getting confused with the Borg. Or did you mean extermination? No, wait, hold on, that was the Daleks..... E | |||
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"Yes you should. There are lots of things that kill way more people than this which you don't get this excited over. Smoking kills 8,000,000 people a year yet half of the people on this post still smoke. It's simple, if you're shit scared stay in your houss but don't expect other who want to get on with their life to do the same. " Goodness, I didn't know that smoking was infectious with unknown long term effects. I thought it was pretty well understood and smoking cessation and prevention programmes existed. Huh | |||
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"It's not even like it's their opinion, because to have an opinion you need to be able to understand the issue Judging by your statements you will make a perfect dictator. Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. " That’s an illogical and indeterminate statement, that in its context is flawed. | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. Should we also ignore the rise in deaths since the summer also? It's all lies and globally we're destroying economies because... I have no idea why probably Bill Gates and lizard people v I just get the logic behind a claim that there are not more cases and we've gone up to nearly 600 deaths a day over a period of what, seven weeks or so? Pah. Evidence. That's what lizard people would ask for. They're not real though.. Or are they... *X Files music* theres brainwashed and then theres brain dead I'm not being serious " Not you lol | |||
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" Not claiming to fully understand how exactly the pcr test are processed, but my opinion is they are totally flawed. " BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! Possibly my absolute favourite quote of 2020! Great job | |||
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"Isnt it obvious. All of these sheep getting excited because there are more cases. There aren't more cases at all it's just because they are testing more than they were earlier in the year. People need to get a grip and stop believing everything they see in the news. " . If we had an epidemic of false positive there would be a linear relationship between number of tests and number of positives, there isn’t, if we had an epidemic of false positives there would not be regional differences in positive rates but there is. | |||
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"No smoking isn't infectious, passive smoking and smoking in pregnancy can only harm the smoker so no worries there. Oh and I forgot about all of the 'help' available to get people to stop. Yet they are still publicly available. And as for known, the so called help for smoking is Vapes, obviously we know loads about them. Smoking is just one example, I could go on all day about things that kill millions but raise no eyebrows. Why, because they are not always in the BBC news so the average sheep accepts all is fine. The governments measures have nothing at all today with looking after the vulnerable or protecting the NHS. You people need to wake up and smell what's right in front of you before you have no freedom left. And as for the many that been glued to the news and live in fear of leaving the home I really do give you my sympathy. But don't expect me to live the rest of my life in fear." I don’t live in fear of the virus but I try to make choices in my actions that are not selfish towards others who are more vulnerable.. for I am a decent human not a selfish c nt | |||
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"Obvious they are flawed. There are so many cases where people have had multiple tests on the same day with different results. Tests have even been done and fruit and vegetables which have come back positive. However none of this make it into the BBC news so can't possibly be true. " Haven't looked at the BBC since April. Lol. | |||
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"Obvious they are flawed. There are so many cases where people have had multiple tests on the same day with different results. Tests have even been done and fruit and vegetables which have come back positive. However none of this make it into the BBC news so can't possibly be true. " The problem is for every fruit that has tested positive there are 100 made up stories about fruit testing positive.. | |||
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"Are they really made up? What makes you think they are made up but the shit you hear about on the BBC is true? Oh and as for protecting the vulnerable. If you are vulnerable you should be shielding or PPE'd up like you're on the set of Casulty until you get the vaccine. Then once you've had the majic vaccine you're sorted so shouldnt need to worry about us 'selfish c nts'" Easily sorted: I don't look at the BBC | |||
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"Are they really made up? What makes you think they are made up but the shit you hear about on the BBC is true? Oh and as for protecting the vulnerable. If you are vulnerable you should be shielding or PPE'd up like you're on the set of Casulty until you get the vaccine. Then once you've had the majic vaccine you're sorted so shouldnt need to worry about us 'selfish c nts'" The BBC have are a disgrace, don't watch it, you just have to look at the disgusting Princess Diana interview, Martin Bashir hang your head in shame | |||
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"Gosh this thread is disturbing as it's not just one solitary muck spreader but several. I hope they bring in that new legislation to make it legal for social media sites to remove false and dangerous spreading of false information. I'm all for healthy debate and respecting differences of opinion. But some very scary people being developed at the moment. " I believe it's already legal. I'm not sure exactly what the legislation is pushing for, but something certainly needs to be done about the spreading of dangerous misinformation | |||
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"Are they really made up? What makes you think they are made up but the shit you hear about on the BBC is true? Oh and as for protecting the vulnerable. If you are vulnerable you should be shielding or PPE'd up like you're on the set of Casulty until you get the vaccine. Then once you've had the majic vaccine you're sorted so shouldnt need to worry about us 'selfish c nts'" I know most of the fruit stories are made up because they come from the same vein of social media truth as those who spout that the earth is flat or that vaccination is about controlling us with nanobots and 5G. Like any organisation the BBC has bias and agenda within it and it gets things wrong.. it is however very independent of government and has working within its ranks many very good and very honest people. If you do not hear the stories you believe to be fact on the BBC it is largely because they have been investigated by BBC researchers and proved to be fictitious bollox. | |||
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"Are they really made up? What makes you think they are made up but the shit you hear about on the BBC is true? Oh and as for protecting the vulnerable. If you are vulnerable you should be shielding or PPE'd up like you're on the set of Casulty until you get the vaccine. Then once you've had the majic vaccine you're sorted so shouldnt need to worry about us 'selfish c nts' The BBC have are a disgrace, don't watch it, you just have to look at the disgusting Princess Diana interview, Martin Bashir hang your head in shame" The way Charles and the palace treated Dianna was far more disgusting | |||
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"Gosh this thread is disturbing as it's not just one solitary muck spreader but several. I hope they bring in that new legislation to make it legal for social media sites to remove false and dangerous spreading of false information. I'm all for healthy debate and respecting differences of opinion. But some very scary people being developed at the moment. I believe it's already legal. I'm not sure exactly what the legislation is pushing for, but something certainly needs to be done about the spreading of dangerous misinformation" Agreed to both posters..... The disinformation/conspiracy/denial/false "truths"/frankly bizarre/downright Damn stupid posts are dangerous. Some people don't have the mental faculty to distinguish between fact and frankly ridiculous. They're a danger to themselves and the people around them. E | |||
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"Gosh this thread is disturbing as it's not just one solitary muck spreader but several. I hope they bring in that new legislation to make it legal for social media sites to remove false and dangerous spreading of false information. I'm all for healthy debate and respecting differences of opinion. But some very scary people being developed at the moment. I believe it's already legal. I'm not sure exactly what the legislation is pushing for, but something certainly needs to be done about the spreading of dangerous misinformation Agreed to both posters..... The disinformation/conspiracy/denial/false "truths"/frankly bizarre/downright Damn stupid posts are dangerous. Some people don't have the mental faculty to distinguish between fact and frankly ridiculous. They're a danger to themselves and the people around them. E" Yes. People are abusing human frailty in order to push an agenda. This sucks. We know it sucks. But denying reality and following conspiracy theories won't give you any more power or make it go away, you guys. You just sound gullible or slightly unhinged (conspiracy theorists in general, not aimed at anyone in particular) | |||
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"Gosh this thread is disturbing as it's not just one solitary muck spreader but several. I hope they bring in that new legislation to make it legal for social media sites to remove false and dangerous spreading of false information. I'm all for healthy debate and respecting differences of opinion. But some very scary people being developed at the moment. I believe it's already legal. I'm not sure exactly what the legislation is pushing for, but something certainly needs to be done about the spreading of dangerous misinformation" Totally agree, free speech needs to be made illegal online especially anti vax. Only guidelines from Boris and the government and media should be allowed on the net because they never lie. We need to be just like communist China where free speech is banned and censorship is fully embraced | |||
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"Gosh this thread is disturbing as it's not just one solitary muck spreader but several. I hope they bring in that new legislation to make it legal for social media sites to remove false and dangerous spreading of false information. I'm all for healthy debate and respecting differences of opinion. But some very scary people being developed at the moment. I believe it's already legal. I'm not sure exactly what the legislation is pushing for, but something certainly needs to be done about the spreading of dangerous misinformation Totally agree, free speech needs to be made illegal online especially anti vax. Only guidelines from Boris and the government and media should be allowed on the net because they never lie. We need to be just like communist China where free speech is banned and censorship is fully embraced " Making up stories and cut and pasting stuff from the loonytube isn't free speech. Expressing your OWN opinion is free speech. Most antivaxers have someone else's opinion. | |||
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"Gosh this thread is disturbing as it's not just one solitary muck spreader but several. I hope they bring in that new legislation to make it legal for social media sites to remove false and dangerous spreading of false information. I'm all for healthy debate and respecting differences of opinion. But some very scary people being developed at the moment. I believe it's already legal. I'm not sure exactly what the legislation is pushing for, but something certainly needs to be done about the spreading of dangerous misinformation Totally agree, free speech needs to be made illegal online especially anti vax. Only guidelines from Boris and the government and media should be allowed on the net because they never lie. We need to be just like communist China where free speech is banned and censorship is fully embraced Making up stories and cut and pasting stuff from the loonytube isn't free speech. Expressing your OWN opinion is free speech. Most antivaxers have someone else's opinion." Exactly, it needs to be all banned and made illegal with inprisonments | |||
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