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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

With all these lockdowns and interuptons to the learning, is it time for the schools to be online? I think it would be better as to otherwise most would not finish the school in time and fall back on it.

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By *onnynclaireCouple
over a year ago

Reading

May be a good idea for some. What about us who don’t work from home. How’s that going to work?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Have you tried teaching online Shag?

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

No. I am at home with a primary school child online learning and its shit shag. If you don't have access to a computer or a printer or WiFi you cannot do it, lots of low income mums are having to get the worksheets printed out for them daily from school and try to get someone to collect them for them, we have a parents support group for each other, but we are not teachers we are parents, so our's and our kids mental health is very low at the moment

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

What about families with 4 kids and 1 computer and what about the children being cared for by elderly relatives whilst the parents went to work?.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"Have you tried teaching online Shag?"
No I havent. I guess it could be hard but still a good option for it

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us. "
I think that libraries could help out as well.

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us. "

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In theory, it sounds like a good option but in reality, like the posters above have pointed out, it is just a minefield.

I'm currently setting work remotely for a class of Year 6s...out of 30 students, I'm lucky if even 5 or 6 kids even view the work, let alone attempt it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet ."

I have mobile data... No WiFi that should of maybe said.

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet .

I have mobile data... No WiFi that should of maybe said. "

I think most of us worked out what you meant. There is always one....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us. I think that libraries could help out as well."

If the children need to go to a library then they might aswell go to school.

Also, if schools close then what about a nursery ? It's very difficult to get nursery aged children to socially distance and follow hand washing rules.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well."

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen

Online schooling is a last resort option as it doesn’t work for all children

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Schools should have been given the power to create a 'rota' system for integrating children back into the classroom.

Of course, that wouldn't have been a perfect solution (there isn't one of those anyway) but to send hundreds of children back into a school so suddenly was always going to create problems. Not a coincidence that cases shot up from September onwards.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet .

I have mobile data... No WiFi that should of maybe said. "

You have WiFi in your hand, just turn your phone hotspot on...

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet .

I have mobile data... No WiFi that should of maybe said.

I think most of us worked out what you meant. There is always one...."

It wasnt clear ok!

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By *entlecaressMan
over a year ago

Wakefield/ Beverley

No it isn't a simular experience plus you have issues around tech, having appliances, distractions, adults being there, feedback, etc etc so definitely not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet .

I have mobile data... No WiFi that should of maybe said.

You have WiFi in your hand, just turn your phone hotspot on..."

I don't know how to do that... *goes looking*

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By *ankie303Woman
over a year ago

Weirdsville South Coast Dorset

I don't work from home, I work 50+ hours a week on average, and I don't work "normal" hours. Being a 100% solo parent of a 7 year old (and a 19 year old who also doesn't work from home), online daily school isn't an option. My mum is good as a teacher, but only if it's old skool paper!

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over a year ago

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By *lbinoGorillaMan
over a year ago

Redditch


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well.

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen "

Another valuable resource conveniently sidelined

Presumably because it benefits the great unwashed and can't be monetised by Tory Party donors

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No.

I taught for 27 years and have a school aged child now so have seen it from both sides.

There are far too many reasons to list why online teaching us NOT a good idea for the vast majority of children and families.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For childrens education we have a marvelous system in place called a school. I think it’s totally wrong to suggest that children sholud be in isolation at home over sonething that isn’t their fault and basically won’t affect them. Isolate the vulnerable not healthy children.

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By *he naughty pairCouple
over a year ago

Bicester

What people tend to forget is the poor teachers who are constantly put at risk and risk taking it home to their families. What do people think would happen if the teacher gets sick and has to self isolate? Most schools in the UK are not geared up for social distancing so in order to compensate some schools are making the teachers keep doors and windows open to ventilate the classroom this is making it very difficult and cold. Most of you would be screwing if you had to work in these conditions but it's ok to insist on teachers having to do it.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well.

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen

Another valuable resource conveniently sidelined

Presumably because it benefits the great unwashed and can't be monetised by Tory Party donors "

Nothing to do with Tories, labour council here for decades.... just one in a long list of public services that have been conveniently closed never to reopen - swimming pools, services for the elderly / disabled, community halls, to name a few

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"For childrens education we have a marvelous system in place called a school. I think it’s totally wrong to suggest that children sholud be in isolation at home over sonething that isn’t their fault and basically won’t affect them. Isolate the vulnerable not healthy children. "

I don't think it's anybody's fault really is it?

As for not affecting them, crazy to suggest such a thing. If you mean affect their physical health then you're right, it doesn't seem to affect them as seriously. Has it affected them in other ways, mentally and socially maybe, then definitely so.

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By *ankie303Woman
over a year ago

Weirdsville South Coast Dorset


"What people tend to forget is the poor teachers who are constantly put at risk and risk taking it home to their families. What do people think would happen if the teacher gets sick and has to self isolate? Most schools in the UK are not geared up for social distancing so in order to compensate some schools are making the teachers keep doors and windows open to ventilate the classroom this is making it very difficult and cold. Most of you would be screwing if you had to work in these conditions but it's ok to insist on teachers having to do it. "

As a local joke my daughters school has always been known as "military academy" for the way its ran by them who don't have children there. It goes from pre school to 6th form and is huge, yet it's the only 1 down here with zero cases of covid and no the kids don't wear masks etc. The teachers actually wanted the school fully open before the summer but the government said no. If somethings ran right then the teachers are at no greater risk then anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What people tend to forget is the poor teachers who are constantly put at risk and risk taking it home to their families. What do people think would happen if the teacher gets sick and has to self isolate? Most schools in the UK are not geared up for social distancing so in order to compensate some schools are making the teachers keep doors and windows open to ventilate the classroom this is making it very difficult and cold. Most of you would be screwing if you had to work in these conditions but it's ok to insist on teachers having to do it.

As a local joke my daughters school has always been known as "military academy" for the way its ran by them who don't have children there. It goes from pre school to 6th form and is huge, yet it's the only 1 down here with zero cases of covid and no the kids don't wear masks etc. The teachers actually wanted the school fully open before the summer but the government said no. If somethings ran right then the teachers are at no greater risk then anyone else."

Easy to comment from the outside looking in.

My school have done so many things right yet I've had to isolate twice this term due to positive cases for childen in my care. It's inevitable and it will happen in all schools, even the one you describe.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well.

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen

Another valuable resource conveniently sidelined

Presumably because it benefits the great unwashed and can't be monetised by Tory Party donors

Nothing to do with Tories, labour council here for decades.... just one in a long list of public services that have been conveniently closed never to reopen - swimming pools, services for the elderly / disabled, community halls, to name a few"

It has everything to do with the Tories, starting with Cameron the conservatives have drastically reduced funding to local governments The first sentence from the link tells everything
"The Local Government Association has identified a decrease in UK Government funding of almost 60 per cent for local authorities in England and Wales between 2010 and 2020."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_government_austerity_programme#Local_government

From the Tory POV this is genius because when you go to vote in your local elections, you blame your local labour council.

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By *he naughty pairCouple
over a year ago

Bicester


"What people tend to forget is the poor teachers who are constantly put at risk and risk taking it home to their families. What do people think would happen if the teacher gets sick and has to self isolate? Most schools in the UK are not geared up for social distancing so in order to compensate some schools are making the teachers keep doors and windows open to ventilate the classroom this is making it very difficult and cold. Most of you would be screwing if you had to work in these conditions but it's ok to insist on teachers having to do it.

As a local joke my daughters school has always been known as "military academy" for the way its ran by them who don't have children there. It goes from pre school to 6th form and is huge, yet it's the only 1 down here with zero cases of covid and no the kids don't wear masks etc. The teachers actually wanted the school fully open before the summer but the government said no. If somethings ran right then the teachers are at no greater risk then anyone else.

Easy to comment from the outside looking in.

My school have done so many things right yet I've had to isolate twice this term due to positive cases for childen in my care. It's inevitable and it will happen in all schools, even the one you describe."

Exactly this, I work in a council and they have done everything withing their power to minimise social interaction but we have still had the emergency cleans taking place because someone had it. It's so easy to.make.the judgment that schools are safe but it's not at all true. A school that someone I know works at has had two year groups have to isolate due to the kids passing it between themselves.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"What people tend to forget is the poor teachers who are constantly put at risk and risk taking it home to their families. What do people think would happen if the teacher gets sick and has to self isolate? Most schools in the UK are not geared up for social distancing so in order to compensate some schools are making the teachers keep doors and windows open to ventilate the classroom this is making it very difficult and cold. Most of you would be screwing if you had to work in these conditions but it's ok to insist on teachers having to do it.

As a local joke my daughters school has always been known as "military academy" for the way its ran by them who don't have children there. It goes from pre school to 6th form and is huge, yet it's the only 1 down here with zero cases of covid and no the kids don't wear masks etc. The teachers actually wanted the school fully open before the summer but the government said no. If somethings ran right then the teachers are at no greater risk then anyone else.

Easy to comment from the outside looking in.

My school have done so many things right yet I've had to isolate twice this term due to positive cases for childen in my care. It's inevitable and it will happen in all schools, even the one you describe."

The letters I have been getting from my son's school would make you despair for humanity. Parents have been sending their children to school with a positive test and no symptoms or whilst they have another child that tested positive. Since school opening in september there has been 3 outbreaks over multiple schools all connected to 18th birthday parties.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work in a school and my child goes to a different one. He is in his gcse year and the previous lockdown hasn't help much. Who wants to constantly be at their child to learn when at home all day. I then went back to work as keyworkers children were in school but my boy was at home.. Wot 16 Yr old is gonna study if home alone. Masks are worn all day, cleaning done all day we have luckily only had 2 confirmed cases in a school of just over 1000 kids not to mention all the teachers... Alot of kids are playing up to it saying they don't feel good to get sent home then can't come bk till tested..

Last lockdown was a nightmare for kids who couldn't sit exams and got predicted results don't need that happening again. Kids education matters

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us. I think that libraries could help out as well."

So children will gather in a library rather than a classroom but have no one to supervise them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well.

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen

Another valuable resource conveniently sidelined

Presumably because it benefits the great unwashed and can't be monetised by Tory Party donors

Nothing to do with Tories, labour council here for decades.... just one in a long list of public services that have been conveniently closed never to reopen - swimming pools, services for the elderly / disabled, community halls, to name a few"

Local councils receive funding from national government.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us. I think that libraries could help out as well."

Have you any idea how many computers are in libraries compared to how many children would need them? Plus most Libraries are only open for click and collect, some are open for PC use but for 45 minutes max

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work in a school and my child goes to a different one. He is in his gcse year and the previous lockdown hasn't help much. Who wants to constantly be at their child to learn when at home all day. I then went back to work as keyworkers children were in school but my boy was at home.. Wot 16 Yr old is gonna study if home alone. Masks are worn all day, cleaning done all day we have luckily only had 2 confirmed cases in a school of just over 1000 kids not to mention all the teachers... Alot of kids are playing up to it saying they don't feel good to get sent home then can't come bk till tested..

Last lockdown was a nightmare for kids who couldn't sit exams and got predicted results don't need that happening again. Kids education matters "

I don't think anyone doubts that Education matters...health and lives matter too.

Just got to find the right balance

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet .

I have mobile data... No WiFi that should of maybe said.

I think most of us worked out what you meant. There is always one...."

To be fair, she has internet if she has data, so it isn't a bad thing to point out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet .

I have mobile data... No WiFi that should of maybe said.

I think most of us worked out what you meant. There is always one....

To be fair, she has internet if she has data, so it isn't a bad thing to point out"

I worded it wrong.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well.

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen

Another valuable resource conveniently sidelined

Presumably because it benefits the great unwashed and can't be monetised by Tory Party donors

Nothing to do with Tories, labour council here for decades.... just one in a long list of public services that have been conveniently closed never to reopen - swimming pools, services for the elderly / disabled, community halls, to name a few

Local councils receive funding from national government."

I know that, add to a history of mismanagement, fraud and “loss” of allocated funds is down to the council. Anyway getting off topic from the OP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work in a school and my child goes to a different one. He is in his gcse year and the previous lockdown hasn't help much. Who wants to constantly be at their child to learn when at home all day. I then went back to work as keyworkers children were in school but my boy was at home.. Wot 16 Yr old is gonna study if home alone. Masks are worn all day, cleaning done all day we have luckily only had 2 confirmed cases in a school of just over 1000 kids not to mention all the teachers... Alot of kids are playing up to it saying they don't feel good to get sent home then can't come bk till tested..

Last lockdown was a nightmare for kids who couldn't sit exams and got predicted results don't need that happening again. Kids education matters

I don't think anyone doubts that Education matters...health and lives matter too.

Just got to find the right balance "

This is true but on average only 2 confirmed cases and they were during the half term so not actually caught at school

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work in a school and my child goes to a different one. He is in his gcse year and the previous lockdown hasn't help much. Who wants to constantly be at their child to learn when at home all day. I then went back to work as keyworkers children were in school but my boy was at home.. Wot 16 Yr old is gonna study if home alone. Masks are worn all day, cleaning done all day we have luckily only had 2 confirmed cases in a school of just over 1000 kids not to mention all the teachers... Alot of kids are playing up to it saying they don't feel good to get sent home then can't come bk till tested..

Last lockdown was a nightmare for kids who couldn't sit exams and got predicted results don't need that happening again. Kids education matters

I don't think anyone doubts that Education matters...health and lives matter too.

Just got to find the right balance

This is true but on average only 2 confirmed cases and they were during the half term so not actually caught at school "

Good chance it was caught at school and then developed over half term...we had exactly this.

I guess it just depends where you are in the country too, some areas have obviously got far more cases than others. Some schools have been brought to their knees by it.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"With all these lockdowns and interuptons to the learning, is it time for the schools to be online? I think it would be better as to otherwise most would not finish the school in time and fall back on it."

Nope

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's such a tough thing to know the answer. During the first lockdown some aspects may have been easier, as more parents were home but many don't have the resources for it. Government had said that they would provide the resources but didn't, rg laptops and internet. It's certainly a very poor substitute for in person teaching.

Children also are more likely to have no symptoms, so infections can be missed by family and school.

The difference we have now are the rapid results tests, which can be used to identify and isolate quickly. Many schools and staff are phenomenal in how they have got things working so well. If we can continue with in person teaching it's preferably the right thing to do but we should be doing more to support them. We probably should be funding more teaching assistants, to ease a little strain on the staff. They could get some online training as a part of their education.

If only this was easy. What this epidemic has shown is the folly of reducing investment in to our public services, crippling their ability to provide resilient high quality services for us, which benefit society for the whole of our lives and contribute much to our economy and wellbeing

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us. I think that libraries could help out as well.

Have you any idea how many computers are in libraries compared to how many children would need them? Plus most Libraries are only open for click and collect, some are open for PC use but for 45 minutes max

"
You are right there as they dont have enough computers and yes there are time restrictions too, one way would be for them to have 1 pc in a room where the students could be connected with the teacher for unlimited time with zoom or skype.

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By *hagTonight OP   Man
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well.

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen

Another valuable resource conveniently sidelined

Presumably because it benefits the great unwashed and can't be monetised by Tory Party donors "
Yes I find it also strange of why they have closed them as they provide a valuable source of learning and education as well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

my lad has probably done half classroom half online this term thanks to covid cases

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

Online teaching is difficult enough when you’re dealing with responsible adults who can see the reason to learn.

With kids who can’t see the reason...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well.

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen

Another valuable resource conveniently sidelined

Presumably because it benefits the great unwashed and can't be monetised by Tory Party donors

Nothing to do with Tories, labour council here for decades.... just one in a long list of public services that have been conveniently closed never to reopen - swimming pools, services for the elderly / disabled, community halls, to name a few

It has everything to do with the Tories, starting with Cameron the conservatives have drastically reduced funding to local governments The first sentence from the link tells everything The Local Government Association has identified a decrease in UK Government funding of almost 60 per cent for local authorities in England and Wales between 2010 and 2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_government_austerity_programme#Local_government

From the Tory POV this is genius because when you go to vote in your local elections, you blame your local labour council."
. And it works because people know your average labour council couldn’t run anything without running out of other peoples money.

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By *ribsaMan
over a year ago

A box at end of your bed

My son flat blank refused to do any schoolwork/homework throughout the first lockdown no matter how much I tried to get him to do it. As for him being home all day every day made my work life very difficult.

In theory the idea sounds great but in reality it just won't work for many people/families.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Online teaching is difficult enough when you’re dealing with responsible adults who can see the reason to learn.

With kids who can’t see the reason..."

This

I'm teaching committed international students and it's like pulling teeth. It's horrible.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"Online teaching is difficult enough when you’re dealing with responsible adults who can see the reason to learn.

With kids who can’t see the reason...

This

I'm teaching committed international students and it's like pulling teeth. It's horrible."

I know what you mean, from teaching finance professionals; well, “professionals”.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Online teaching is difficult enough when you’re dealing with responsible adults who can see the reason to learn.

With kids who can’t see the reason...

This

I'm teaching committed international students and it's like pulling teeth. It's horrible.

I know what you mean, from teaching finance professionals; well, “professionals”."

And the HUGE range of technical students have/don't have. Urgh. Trying to make things compatible with every browser, operating system, behind every country firewall (China, Russia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan), no webcam, internet in the back end of beyond in the Mongolian countryside.

Just urgh.

Give me back my normal job, PLEASE!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Online teaching is difficult enough when you’re dealing with responsible adults who can see the reason to learn.

With kids who can’t see the reason...

This

I'm teaching committed international students and it's like pulling teeth. It's horrible.

I know what you mean, from teaching finance professionals; well, “professionals”.

And the HUGE range of technical* students have/don't have. Urgh. Trying to make things compatible with every browser, operating system, behind every country firewall (China, Russia, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan), no webcam, internet in the back end of beyond in the Mongolian countryside.

Just urgh.

Give me back my normal job, PLEASE! "

*Technical specifications

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By *iddle ManMan
over a year ago

Walsall


"No. I am at home with a primary school child online learning and its shit shag. If you don't have access to a computer or a printer or WiFi you cannot do it, lots of low income mums are having to get the worksheets printed out for them daily from school and try to get someone to collect them for them, we have a parents support group for each other, but we are not teachers we are parents, so our's and our kids mental health is very low at the moment"

You forgot the small rainforest worth of paper for said printer.

Yes, I had my small turn of lockdown home schooling and don't envy anyone doing it long term or heaven forbid, forever.

Plus think about those school friendships and interactions you have, it's this that sets us up for adult life and prepares us for the big bad world ahead.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet .

I have mobile data... No WiFi that should of maybe said.

I think most of us worked out what you meant. There is always one....

It wasnt clear ok! "

Yes it was. You were just being vicious.

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By *alandNitaCouple
over a year ago

Scunthorpe

We have been offering online lessons since the beginning, anyone who isn't "in school" has options.

Cal

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

Yet you are on fab , i wasn't aware you could access this without the internet .

I have mobile data... No WiFi that should of maybe said.

I think most of us worked out what you meant. There is always one....

It wasnt clear ok!

Yes it was. You were just being vicious."

It wasn't. Drop it please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My youngest is 19 now but missed almost a year of education when he was 10 through a couple of nasty accidents and to be frank he never caught up and entered a serious downward spiral. I've fought hard for him and with him over the last few years. It isn't just a period of missing education that's the problem, its the path that this can take them down. This is what needs to be guarded against but I really dont know how. Its a runaway train.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us. I think that libraries could help out as well."

I think, you haven't got a clue

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope, home schooling is hell on Earth. My daughter is distracted by everything at home, she needs to be somewhere that is dedicated to learning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With all these lockdowns and interuptons to the learning, is it time for the schools to be online? I think it would be better as to otherwise most would not finish the school in time and fall back on it."

I think it's a good option especially as schools/ unis seem to be the primary area for the spread of the virus now.

My daughter in Australia has been doing it for quite some time now and seems to work well. Initially it seemed problematic but like anything those issues were quickly sorted out, even those without internet found solutions that seemed to work. Think they have done it on 3 different occasions now with here primary school.

Like anything it can be done.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

If the kids are made to learn from home and lose that one piece of face to face learning with teachers and peer learning, then all social aspects of adult life should be closed off too.

Education isn’t just about reading a book or the web, it is being inspired to learn, wanting to learn and that comes predominantly from teachers and the passion and encouragement they give, bouncing of their peers, encouraging each other. You don’t get that at home sat in front of a computer reading loads of text

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"With all these lockdowns and interuptons to the learning, is it time for the schools to be online? I think it would be better as to otherwise most would not finish the school in time and fall back on it."

It Would be the perfect time to completely redesign the curriculum and let people who know what they’re talking about have an input. School isn’t childcare so we should be designing something that works for the kids.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"No. I am at home with a primary school child online learning and its shit shag. If you don't have access to a computer or a printer or WiFi you cannot do it, lots of low income mums are having to get the worksheets printed out for them daily from school and try to get someone to collect them for them, we have a parents support group for each other, but we are not teachers we are parents, so our's and our kids mental health is very low at the moment

You forgot the small rainforest worth of paper for said printer.

Yes, I had my small turn of lockdown home schooling and don't envy anyone doing it long term or heaven forbid, forever.

Plus think about those school friendships and interactions you have, it's this that sets us up for adult life and prepares us for the big bad world ahead. "

But this is just replacing the paper that school use so the paper usage would be a net result just used at home not at school.

The work from home ethic will continue the predictions from studies I’ve seen is lots of businesses are rethinking how they deeply staff - maybe a work from home attitude will be needed more in the figure for our children too.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

These comments from parents make me laugh tbh (not being sarky or anything or criticising) refusal to work, distracted by everything etc etc this is what teacher face every single day but with 30 kids not just one or two. Maybe it’s also about parents Realising what teaching really is too ie teaching them to be humans not just long multiplication (again that sounds patronising and accusatory but it’s not I love my job it’s an honour every day but surprisingly few people know what teaching entails)

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well.

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen

Another valuable resource conveniently sidelined

Presumably because it benefits the great unwashed and can't be monetised by Tory Party donors

Nothing to do with Tories, labour council here for decades.... just one in a long list of public services that have been conveniently closed never to reopen - swimming pools, services for the elderly / disabled, community halls, to name a few

It has everything to do with the Tories, starting with Cameron the conservatives have drastically reduced funding to local governments The first sentence from the link tells everything The Local Government Association has identified a decrease in UK Government funding of almost 60 per cent for local authorities in England and Wales between 2010 and 2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_government_austerity_programme#Local_government

From the Tory POV this is genius because when you go to vote in your local elections, you blame your local labour council.. And it works because people know your average labour council couldn’t run anything without running out of other peoples money. "

Utter tripe .... it’s about everyone making a contribution in relation to what they have ... trillionaires, billionaires there is just no need. Tax should be higher for the rich and elitists should not be allowed to bung contracts worth millions to their mates. Austerity doesn’t work just look at how many more food banks their are than a decade ago abs how many kids are living below the poverty line. I’d prefer a Tory billionaire lost a few millions than even one kid go hungry for a day.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"What people tend to forget is the poor teachers who are constantly put at risk and risk taking it home to their families. What do people think would happen if the teacher gets sick and has to self isolate? Most schools in the UK are not geared up for social distancing so in order to compensate some schools are making the teachers keep doors and windows open to ventilate the classroom this is making it very difficult and cold. Most of you would be screwing if you had to work in these conditions but it's ok to insist on teachers having to do it. "

I think I love you (heart)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"With all these lockdowns and interuptons to the learning, is it time for the schools to be online? I think it would be better as to otherwise most would not finish the school in time and fall back on it.

It Would be the perfect time to completely redesign the curriculum and let people who know what they’re talking about have an input. School isn’t childcare so we should be designing something that works for the kids. "

Agree with this, also with the idea that you can't learn except in a classroom environment. I did my two years of 0 levels by distance learning from home as did my siblings. Different characters, different needs, different abilities but all passed well too. We each learned to focus and work on our own with the discipline required. 10s of Thousands do IGCSEs while overseas and many from a home set up.

The main issue here is unfamiliarity, change and the unknown. It can be done, much like with the onset of the pandemic, there was much panic and hysteria about what will happen. We adapt to change. If we are forced too we naturally fight it, if we go with it, we adapt easier.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London


"We don't have the Internet or a computer, so online learning would be quite difficult for us.

I think that libraries could help out as well.

They are all closed at the moment, ours closed in March and only one has reopened since then in the borough, 5 miles away, it has been announced the others will never reopen

Another valuable resource conveniently sidelined

Presumably because it benefits the great unwashed and can't be monetised by Tory Party donors

Nothing to do with Tories, labour council here for decades.... just one in a long list of public services that have been conveniently closed never to reopen - swimming pools, services for the elderly / disabled, community halls, to name a few

It has everything to do with the Tories, starting with Cameron the conservatives have drastically reduced funding to local governments The first sentence from the link tells everything The Local Government Association has identified a decrease in UK Government funding of almost 60 per cent for local authorities in England and Wales between 2010 and 2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_government_austerity_programme#Local_government

From the Tory POV this is genius because when you go to vote in your local elections, you blame your local labour council.. And it works because people know your average labour council couldn’t run anything without running out of other peoples money.

Utter tripe .... it’s about everyone making a contribution in relation to what they have ... trillionaires, billionaires there is just no need. Tax should be higher for the rich and elitists should not be allowed to bung contracts worth millions to their mates. Austerity doesn’t work just look at how many more food banks their are than a decade ago abs how many kids are living below the poverty line. I’d prefer a Tory billionaire lost a few millions than even one kid go hungry for a day. "

x 1000

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

Easier to say than it is to practically do.

Kids need to be in school.

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin

Schools will be working on-line sooner than people think!

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Schools will be working on-line sooner than people think! "

We already are and it's a fecking nightmare

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham


"Schools will be working on-line sooner than people think! "

Blooming hope not. Trying to get kids to sit down and focus on doing school work when we aren't there will be virtually impossible.

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin


"Schools will be working on-line sooner than people think!

Blooming hope not. Trying to get kids to sit down and focus on doing school work when we aren't there will be virtually impossible."

My best guess .... 11th December

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By *havenbabe01Couple
over a year ago

bedfordshire

what would happen to the special needs children some of which dont even live at home and need special equipment and sensory rooms?

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham


"Schools will be working on-line sooner than people think!

Blooming hope not. Trying to get kids to sit down and focus on doing school work when we aren't there will be virtually impossible.

My best guess .... 11th December "

Please nooooooooooo

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By *ustylouWoman
over a year ago

Aylesbury

My son is 13, and has special needs. I would say approx academically hes about 9 yrs. Hes in a fantastic school with only 10 in the class with 1 teacher and 2 TAs. I have worked through both lockdowns as supposedly a key worker in retail. Both reasons meant he was entitled to stay in school but because I had my adult son also at home I felt it was safer to keep him off and home school him during the first lockdown. I found it the most difficult thing I have ever done. Working 12 hour shifts being screamed at and abused all day to then come home and try to force him to sit in front of a computer was impossible. My older son who has ASD was in no way capable of teaching either. Its heartbreaking to see how far he slipped down in those few months. The improvements he has made in the previous 18 months was completely wiped out.

His school have now put in place a contingency plan in case they are too short staffed to continue offering lessons safely in the future. However there will be no live lessons for him to participate in. He will be expected to register twice a day and have completed a certain amount of work during school hours. Those school hours that I am yet again at work for.

I'm worried sick about the education that he cant afford to miss. I'm not a teacher or speech therapist or educational psychologist. Emotionally he wont cope with being away from school again. He needs to interact with people otherwise he would sit in his room alone all day. He needs structure. He needs school.

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By *essie.Woman
over a year ago

Serendipity

It’s not just about learning the curriculum. School is more than just the subjects being taught. It’s interacting with friends, a place of safety for many. It helps with mental health wellbeing. If you keep closing schools, many pupils will have heightened anxiety when they go back. That’s why they need to stay open if possible.

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By *havenbabe01Couple
over a year ago

bedfordshire

i work in a special needs school and have worked all through

thats why i was high lighting the situation

its not that simple to say close the schools

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Our son goes to school Monday Wednesday Friday one week and Tuesday Thursday the next week then back to Mon Wen Fri but there is no work on days off.

T

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