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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Is this government living in an alternative dimension, or are they deliberately choosing to not see what is in front of their noses when it comes to the schools and this virus?

School kids are having to self isolate in their droves, along with staff members in contact with them. One of the local schools here had to send the whole of year 9 home yesterday, as well as staff, today multiple other kids and staff as well. I'm no fan of this govt but in general have supported their decisions so far, but not now! It's blatently obvious to virtually everyone that schools are carrying and transmitting the virus but what do they do?.... Totally ignore it! What levels of infection have to be reached before they admit the schools need to be shut for the lockdown to work?

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

all depends on wich area your in town i live had no problems with the schools the town my ex and daughter live is the same no problems with the schools.are infections high in rest of your area or just schools being affected.we had it bad here march april and may with this second wave numbers are not even close to how they were earlier in the year.saying that its like a ghost town here and has been the last few months

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Alternative dimension.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Excellent.

Another thread by a "fab" expert....

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman
Forum Mod
over a year ago

My Own Little World


"Excellent.

Another thread by a "fab" expert.... "

If you don't like the subject of a thread they just scroll past, there are thousands of others to choose from.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Excellent.

Another thread by a "fab" expert....

If you don't like the subject of a thread they just scroll past, there are thousands of others to choose from."

Just merely making an observation.... Is that not allowed these days?

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By *ountry Boy FreshMan
over a year ago

Huddersfield

Its not ideal but then do we let a generation go without a full education?

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Its not ideal but then do we let a generation go without a full education? "

No. But there are alternatives. 50/50 home or school education. Better spacing, more masks. Smaller bubbles. More funding for outbreak prevention.

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By *ountry Boy FreshMan
over a year ago

Huddersfield


"Its not ideal but then do we let a generation go without a full education?

No. But there are alternatives. 50/50 home or school education. Better spacing, more masks. Smaller bubbles. More funding for outbreak prevention."

True to an extent but its not as effective way of teaching. Far less practicals for science and less social interaction. There isn't an Ideal but this generation really does need the opportunity to get genuine qualifications and be treat as equals in the future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's a very difficult call to make for any government, in any country, but on balance I think the kids should be in school because 'home-schooling' has been a disaster for many, particularly the less well off. I do agree though that more money should have gone to schools to help them through it. Perhaps some of the money that was instead spent on 'consultants'.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Its not ideal but then do we let a generation go without a full education?

No. But there are alternatives. 50/50 home or school education. Better spacing, more masks. Smaller bubbles. More funding for outbreak prevention.

True to an extent but its not as effective way of teaching. Far less practicals for science and less social interaction. There isn't an Ideal but this generation really does need the opportunity to get genuine qualifications and be treat as equals in the future. "

Of course, but perpetuating a pandemic isn't ideal either. It's about finding the least worst options.

I don't think the current solution is it. I think it's turning a blind eye to the spread of disease.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

We haven't seen any figures to support this ???

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By *errible_TwoCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Or school had been back 3 days when the sent home 2 full yrs, for 2 weeks that's 600kids, they had only been back 1 day and they sent another year home for 2 weeks (my daughters Yr) we then had half a Yr off a few weeks later and now another half a Yr off in my daughters year, also had an email home today that parents are sending kids to school while they are waiting for test results which has led to another case in school, home school was working fine and it getting every other week that there's kids being sent home

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

There's few primary schools closed this week around here. One of them.has teachers that work in the secondary phase which means they are struggling massively for staff atm.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It's a very difficult call to make for any government, in any country, but on balance I think the kids should be in school because 'home-schooling' has been a disaster for many, particularly the less well off. I do agree though that more money should have gone to schools to help them through it. Perhaps some of the money that was instead spent on 'consultants'."

I agree home schooling is pretty much a disaster for those kids without a computer/internet. Much much more funding would be needed to even begin to think it could work long term.

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Why is it this governments fault?

Are any other countries doing anything different? As far as I can tell, schools remaining open is deemed the most effective way forward.

The infection rates also speak volumes, the rates of infection I. The under 10 age group is negligible and 2 independent studies in America both concluded that infection rates in adults were no higher for those who had children in school compared with those who did not have children.

So it does seem that the general consensus is that young children pose a very small risk of spreading the virus to adults and each other.

As for schools closing, they seem to be doing whatever the head or school governer decides is best.

Two schools near me, one has sent home an entire year group because 2 children tested positive, the other has made just the children who are in close proximity for extended periods isolate when a child tests positive..

Two completely different approaches, which is right or wrong?

For those that know of the Covid Symptoms tracker app, they have released an update that will now assist schools to track outbreaks within their schools and communities.

As long as schools and parents buy into the idea and use the app, it should help schools make better decisions and for the creators at Kings College London and Zoe, to understand how infection spreads in school environments.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

I think it should be left up to the individual schools rather than country wide, some seem to be coping with it really well so why stop that face to face education.

It amazes me that whole years are sent home from schools, is it because there is more than one case at a time in those years? Of the 7 schools here (2sq miles) only 2 had one case each. From this, those sent home were only those that had been in close proximity and that wasn’t any teaching staff.

I do wonder if some schools are being over zealous in sending whole years home rather than working out who has been a close contact.

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen

The alternative of having kids being taught at home is far less successful for the majority of children and definitely not good for they're mental health, children need the interaction but puts a lot of extra work load on teachers.

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By *hrista BellendWoman
over a year ago

surrounded by twinkly lights

We have shut down a bubble for 1 positive case and in the process have 6 nurses now off work self isolating because of child care, schools shutting long term is not the answer unless you shut everything and everyone stays at home again

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By *icecouple561Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

East Sussex

I've removed posts. If you don't like people's posts ignore each other

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By *agneto.Man
over a year ago

Bham

Rather than blanket school closures. I think they should tack on home schooling weeks to the holidays. So for the previous half term, it would have resulted in kids being put out of school for 3 weeks, resulting in transmission chains being broken, but kids only home schooling for 2 weeks, so not too much impact on education.

At Christmas, break up a week early and home school, have the 2 weeks holiday, first week back, home schooled again. Again giving a whole 4 weeks to break school transmission.

3 weeks at next half term etc.

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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago

Wakefield


"Is this government living in an alternative dimension, or are they deliberately choosing to not see what is in front of their noses when it comes to the schools and this virus?

School kids are having to self isolate in their droves, along with staff members in contact with them. One of the local schools here had to send the whole of year 9 home yesterday, as well as staff, today multiple other kids and staff as well. I'm no fan of this govt but in general have supported their decisions so far, but not now! It's blatently obvious to virtually everyone that schools are carrying and transmitting the virus but what do they do?.... Totally ignore it! What levels of infection have to be reached before they admit the schools need to be shut for the lockdown to work?

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The main problem is parents not schools.

These days it is common for both parents to go to work rather than just one, this creates childcare problems at times like this.

If one parent had to be at home until their children reached the age of around 16 then there would be less need for schools to be open.

Not a popular comment we know but the truth is often not popular.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

400 school kids are in isolation right now in a fife school,

Over 400 pupils are having to self-isolate following a coronavirus outbreak at a high school in Fife.

The head teacher of Auchmuty High School in Glenrothes revealed in a video update on Tuesday afternoon that 16 positive cases have been identified.

They include 10 students and six staff

Yet our Government tells is there is less risk from classrooms!!

Does Covid-19 know its not allowed to infect schoolkids because they are going to school, total crap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People are blaming schools and the government for the spread of infections. Isnt it the fact that most younger school children can not grasp the reality of covid. Add to that most of the older school children generally don't seem to care, pre the 2nd lockdown we regularly saw groups of teenage kids congregating outside of school and socialising with no regard to social distancing, no masks etc. when they are old enough to know the guidelines etc. Is this the schools or governments fault that this was happening or the parents fault ? How many teenage children now walk/travel to and from school inter acting with each other ? Even now during lockdown ? Is this the government's or schools fault that children generally won't do as they are advised to.

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By *orkiecplCouple
over a year ago

York

Ask any parent of a primary school age child and they will tell you that kids bring home every bug going including head lice, opening primary schools was a massive mistake only secondary schools should of been re-opened but on a 3 day a week basis for each age group , spreading out classes by age, ie 11 year old on Mondays,Tuesday,Wednesday, 12 year old on Wednesday,Thursday,Friday. Spreading classes out by time a morning group say 8am till 1pm and an afternoon group say 1p till 6pm by doing this basic measures it will keep the spread down as much as practical possible, maybe opening school on Saturday's too, lots of practical ways to reduce the risk. primary schools should be closed and remain closed till after easter 2021

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Is this government living in an alternative dimension, or are they deliberately choosing to not see what is in front of their noses when it comes to the schools and this virus?

School kids are having to self isolate in their droves, along with staff members in contact with them. One of the local schools here had to send the whole of year 9 home yesterday, as well as staff, today multiple other kids and staff as well. I'm no fan of this govt but in general have supported their decisions so far, but not now! It's blatently obvious to virtually everyone that schools are carrying and transmitting the virus but what do they do?.... Totally ignore it! What levels of infection have to be reached before they admit the schools need to be shut for the lockdown to work?

The main problem is parents not schools.

These days it is common for both parents to go to work rather than just one, this creates childcare problems at times like this.

If one parent had to be at home until their children reached the age of around 16 then there would be less need for schools to be open.

Not a popular comment we know but the truth is often not popular."

You realise people need to work to survive?

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By *igh wide and handsomeMan
over a year ago

Dagenham

How about only the last 2 years of senior schools in, and everybody else can catch up?

With schools, numerous non essential shops, garden centres its not a lock down at all.

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