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"Do you mean the survival rate of people in hospital with Covid or in the community too ?" both, you never here any news platform saying any survival rates, which i find worryingly for various reasons, mainly ... why not? give the truth and keep the public informed rather then judgement day scenarios | |||
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"Its easily gained information, PHE have updated their statistics up to the 8th November, which splits deaths into region and age, a quick google will suffice " https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26 6000 deaths from under 65s, which doesnt say about underlying conditions ... but never gets reported on mainstream media, would that effect peoples judgement? | |||
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" Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ..." Could be that PHE were using their resources on more important things... | |||
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" Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ... Could be that PHE were using their resources on more important things..." as in keeping records of public health ![]() | |||
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" Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ... Could be that PHE were using their resources on more important things... as in keeping records of public health ![]() Or managing an ongoing crisis? Which might take priority? | |||
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"Seems strange but the symptoms for bubonic plague is identical as Covid what are they hiding??" No they're not that's nonsense ![]() | |||
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"Seems strange but the symptoms for bubonic plague is identical as Covid what are they hiding??" Ehhhhhhh??? The ONLY similar symptom between the two is persistent headache. Other then that I'm sure high fever causing impaired vision, excessive fatigue, swollen lymph nodes, bleeding organs and blackening of infected lymph areas aren't associated in any possible way with covid-19. Check your history, black death is absolutely nothing similar to covid | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road " Whose more likely to die on the roads? 85 year old or 25 year old | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road Whose more likely to die on the roads? 85 year old or 25 year old " Such a great point | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road Whose more likely to die on the roads? 85 year old or 25 year old Such a great point " Whats the R value of a RTA? | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road Whose more likely to die on the roads? 85 year old or 25 year old " Google is your friend | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road " I'm outside the average age for being murdered, I'm safe from murder and society should not worry about murderers. | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road I'm outside the average age for being murdered, I'm safe from murder and society should not worry about murderers." Popcorn out. | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road I'm outside the average age for being murdered, I'm safe from murder and society should not worry about murderers. Popcorn out." ![]() | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day." ![]() | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road I'm outside the average age for being murdered, I'm safe from murder and society should not worry about murderers. Popcorn out." Nothing to see here...just more attempts to deflect from the issue of the fact we are all at risk. Sad really | |||
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"In the media there are obviously reports of cases and deaths per day/week, but why don't they say the average age of deaths? Or the survival rate? Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ..." The data is highly inaccurate, the death figures include people for whom the virus had no bearing on their deaths, but doesn't include others whose death may have been caused by the virus but they'd never had a test. The new infection figures are more accurate, but not representative due to the ever changing nature of testing. Obviously the more testing done, the more positive results will be found. A more useful measure of the infection rate is the ratio of positive tests to tests done, but that's not a figure that's published. Cal | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road I'm outside the average age for being murdered, I'm safe from murder and society should not worry about murderers. Popcorn out. Nothing to see here...just more attempts to deflect from the issue of the fact we are all at risk. Sad really " We are all at risk of dying from the moment we are conceived, we now know where the greatest risk is from covid and for those under 65 it's small, for those in good health and not fat its tiny, it's still there but tiny,in 2016 300 people died of choking but we dont stop eating, everything is relative. | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day." And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean." ![]() | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. ![]() Exactly. And its the same posters over and over again | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. ![]() Yes. Reworded in slightly different ways over and over again. Yes, we get what you're saying, no it isn't different after you consult a thesaurus. | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road Whose more likely to die on the roads? 85 year old or 25 year old " 25 the way they drive | |||
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"In the media there are obviously reports of cases and deaths per day/week, but why don't they say the average age of deaths? Or the survival rate? Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ... The data is highly inaccurate, the death figures include people for whom the virus had no bearing on their deaths, but doesn't include others whose death may have been caused by the virus but they'd never had a test. The new infection figures are more accurate, but not representative due to the ever changing nature of testing. Obviously the more testing done, the more positive results will be found. A more useful measure of the infection rate is the ratio of positive tests to tests done, but that's not a figure that's published. Cal" Yes it is, the coronavirus page on gov.uk has the number of tests processed and the number of positive cases every day. Not in ratio form, but all you need is a calculator ![]() | |||
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"What is the average age of those dying with covid and how many under 60's have died with it ? " Why dont you say what you actually mean? | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road I'm outside the average age for being murdered, I'm safe from murder and society should not worry about murderers. Popcorn out. I'll bet you haven't got popcorn" I’ll bet you’re wrong, I live in a house with 4 other females we have loads of it. | |||
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"In the media there are obviously reports of cases and deaths per day/week, but why don't they say the average age of deaths? Or the survival rate? Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ..." All well published ![]() | |||
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"What is the average age of those dying with covid and how many under 60's have died with it ? " Is death the only bad outcome of Covid-19? | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean." Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ??" Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. ![]() Maybe it's just me but it always sounds a bit final solutionish. | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. ![]() It's not very civilised, at least. I'll be fine so the protections are unnecessary. | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew " Usually based around Dave on YouTube who knows it’s all a big conspiracy to make us conform to something, but has no evidence to substantiate his claim, other than other YouTube videos ![]() | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew Usually based around Dave on YouTube who knows it’s all a big conspiracy to make us conform to something, but has no evidence to substantiate his claim, other than other YouTube videos ![]() Experts? Who needs experts? This dude in crusty boxers agrees with me. | |||
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"In the media there are obviously reports of cases and deaths per day/week, but why don't they say the average age of deaths? Or the survival rate? " Readily available information on the Office for National Statistics re ages Overall infection fatality rate is around 99.75% (see Infection fatality rate of COVID-19 inferred from seroprevalence data by John Ioannidis on the WHO website). Which shows how bizarre the whole hysteria is Also excellent statistics on the Euromomo website )supported by WHO). I suggest that you check out the z scores by country (Z scores are a standardised mortality). They show very little unusual has been happening for weeks, | |||
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"What is the average age of those dying with covid and how many under 60's have died with it ? Why dont you say what you actually mean?" Says the man who recently claimed he answered every question, oh dear go on give it a go answer the question you know you want to. | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies" I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew " ... As I was saying ![]() | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() So what is the average age of those dying with covid and how many under 60's have died with it, simple question | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() So there is no credible information on YouTube? | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() I don't subscribe to your agenda and am not playing your game. Simple answer. | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() What agenda ? It's a very simple FACT the average age is 82, that's a tiny bit higher than normal average of death, the last I saw 2500 under 60's had died with covid and the overwhelming number of those had other issues. The simple fact is the vast majority of those who die with covid are old, there is no agenda there it's a very simple fact. Should we take it lightly no of course not, should we take precautions to keep safe the vulnerable absolutely Should we be overtaken with fear no. | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() Your agenda was simple, she couldn't answer you.... Simples | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() There very well MAYBE, maybe being the point, with out proper reasoning or research it can’t be relied upon. | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() Ok. What about morbidity? How do we protect the old and vulnerable without shutting them up forever? Isn't that cruel? Does shutting people off forever even work? What about morbidity? And since not one of you deniers has answered the question even once, I'll repeat it again. What about morbidity? | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() What about morbidity? | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() Are you aware that the CDC have channel on YouTube? Its all about covid and all relevant information,I suppose they're all called dave at the CDC | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() What about it? Why answer a question with a question | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() So all sources on a platform are equally valid? Or maybe just maybe one can check credentials... | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() You want to check the CDCs credentials ![]() | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() Because without complete data we can't make an adequate risk assessment, and it seems that certain subsets want to make risk evaluation with only a tiny fraction of the potential information and risk available. I'd hate someone to think Covid only hurts old dears and end up needing a lung transplant. | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() I was just about to say that. I’m sure the cdc et al have credible facts, but Dave who just likes followers possibly doesn’t. | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() ![]() That's kind of how source evaluation works. It's not "YouTube has good shit I trust ManInPants@MomsBasement" | |||
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"What is the average age of those dying with covid and how many under 60's have died with it ? Why dont you say what you actually mean? Says the man who recently claimed he answered every question, oh dear go on give it a go answer the question you know you want to." What question? What are you on about? I asked you a question | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() ![]() I get your point in a swing dress. | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() Your quick enough to jump into plenty of covid debates, Where's your credentials? | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() But this is why I didn't answer earlier. The CDC is on YouTube therefore all YouTube videos are public health experts. My question is bulletproof evidence that this is a scamdemic and we're all fine. Yeah... More likely it's that people don't know how to find good sources or argue honestly. | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() Not a fucking thing. I've got sources, though, who do. Because in the credentials I do have, I learned how to find reliable sources ![]() | |||
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"In the media there are obviously reports of cases and deaths per day/week, but why don't they say the average age of deaths? Or the survival rate? Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ..." I’m confused as to what benefit you think there is to publishing the numbers of people who don’t die from an illness on a daily basis? About 66,000,000 people survived every illness yesterday, in the UK, has that made you feel any better? | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() Does shutting people up forever work, no of course we cant and mustn't do that, but until we reach herd immunity it's the safest way for them, the more young healthy people catch it and recover the less chance a vulnerable person has in then coming into contact with an infected person, add in the vaccine coming in the next couple of months then it will be safer for them, have you actually asked many older people if they want locking away or would they rather get on with their life and accept that risk. As for morbidity, what are the numbers who have had issues for more than say 6 months ? Covid is not the only virus or disease that can leave people with symptoms for an extended period, that in no way dismisses their problems. | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() Just who is dave anyway | |||
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"This just another repackaging of it "only affects the old and those with underlying health conditions" wrapped in a inference the statistics are being used to mislead. Same shit, different day. And dont have the balls to say what they really mean. Exactly and also they dont seem to care if they get it mildly or non symptomatic and pass it on to elderly ?? Also they ignore any suggestion that bad things can happen other than dying. Breathing difficulty, lung transplant, long Covid, etc. They exaggerate or lie about vaccine risk They exaggerate or lie about testing They exaggerate or lie about other harms suffered They ignore the harms of an unchecked raging pandemic It's almost as if they have an agenda not supported by evidence. Huh. Who knew ... As I was saying ![]() Do you know studies show that immunity wanes, and preliminary evidence suggests that reinfection may result in more serious illness or death? | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() That’s it exactly, I know nothing about geology, but I’m sure I could start a you tube channel and start telling people my opinion on it and start to gain a few followers. If however I wanted to start a channel on my specialism I’d be able to quote peer assessed validated evidence. | |||
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" have you actually asked many older people if they want locking away or would they rather get on with their life and accept that risk. " The ones I deal with regularly in the course of my work are fucking terrified, angry, and feel forgotten. Some of them haven't stepped outside since February and are suffering enormously for it. | |||
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"What is the average age of those dying with covid and how many under 60's have died with it ? Why dont you say what you actually mean? Says the man who recently claimed he answered every question, oh dear go on give it a go answer the question you know you want to. What question? What are you on about? I asked you a question " Grow up, you're just making yourself look stupid now, act like an adult or leave it to others to have a discussion | |||
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"What is the average age of those dying with covid and how many under 60's have died with it ? Why dont you say what you actually mean? Says the man who recently claimed he answered every question, oh dear go on give it a go answer the question you know you want to. What question? What are you on about? I asked you a question Grow up, you're just making yourself look stupid now, act like an adult or leave it to others to have a discussion" ![]() | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() It's like I never just told you that the actual CDC has a channel, not Bob talking about it, the ACTUAL CENTRE FOR DISEASE CENTRE in atlanta, Georgia USA | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() Uh yeah, and they're like verified and shit. Bob talking about it isn't. So CDC on YouTube may be a reasonable source (in some circumstances). Bob isn't. | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() I just said that ![]() | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() ![]() You seem to be arguing that YouTube is a valid source. YouTube is a platform which may contain good sources (to a point) | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() That's not my experience but not going to argue the point over it. As to your other point, yes antibodies disappear, T cells are believed to stay but early days, as for re infection very few seem to have been shown to have caught the same mutation twice and yes there are a tiny number who seem to have had it worse, but the number is tiny, we can't destroy the economy for a handful of people, a literal handful. It's very possible more will have bad reactions to the vaccine but that won't stop me having it, not to protect me but others. | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() ![]() OK, I actually agree with that, not all YouTube is credible,there is also a podcast on there by Joe biden new covid-19 task force leader | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() I'm certainly not rebuilding the economy until it's much much safer to do so. | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() ![]() We are in agreement then, a lot of YouTube is dogshit but also the right credible info is there if you look | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() So who is going to pay for the whole country to.stay at home ? Millions of us have been at work the whole time, I assume you have if you are looking after old people, with out an economy we will end up like syria | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() My work has gone remote to minimise risk. If we let the disease rip, who's going to pay for the huge disability burden from long Covid, strokes and other known effects that strike all ages, even assuming that reinfection can't happen? | |||
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"Seems strange but the symptoms for bubonic plague is identical as Covid what are they hiding??" Also strange that undercoat is administered in the same way as gloss paint. | |||
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" have you actually asked many older people if they want locking away or would they rather get on with their life and accept that risk. The ones I deal with regularly in the course of my work are fucking terrified, angry, and feel forgotten. Some of them haven't stepped outside since February and are suffering enormously for it." Yes every single vulnerable person is having a really really hard time. So we should have just forced them to stay indoors all the time and have zero contact while the rest of us just carry on as normal and stay away from them like lepers?! Thank the lord the majority of us are a bit more caring than that | |||
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"In the media there are obviously reports of cases and deaths per day/week, but why don't they say the average age of deaths? Or the survival rate? Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ... The data is highly inaccurate, the death figures include people for whom the virus had no bearing on their deaths, but doesn't include others whose death may have been caused by the virus but they'd never had a test. The new infection figures are more accurate, but not representative due to the ever changing nature of testing. Obviously the more testing done, the more positive results will be found. A more useful measure of the infection rate is the ratio of positive tests to tests done, but that's not a figure that's published. Cal ---- Yes it is, the coronavirus page on gov.uk has the number of tests processed and the number of positive cases every day. Not in ratio form, but all you need is a calculator ![]() Great, I'd not seen that. Thanks | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() 2 issues with utoob. First is there's zero factchecking. The second is the algorithm it uses to suggest videos. YT wants to keep you watching for as along as possible. To do this it makes you angry. So you start with a recipe for cupcakes, 5 videos later you're watching videos about the great replacement theory. | |||
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" have you actually asked many older people if they want locking away or would they rather get on with their life and accept that risk. The ones I deal with regularly in the course of my work are fucking terrified, angry, and feel forgotten. Some of them haven't stepped outside since February and are suffering enormously for it. Yes every single vulnerable person is having a really really hard time. So we should have just forced them to stay indoors all the time and have zero contact while the rest of us just carry on as normal and stay away from them like lepers?! Thank the lord the majority of us are a bit more caring than that" Yes. You don't lose your humanity after you develop a heart condition or hit 65. You're still a person with worth, value, and needs. | |||
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" have you actually asked many older people if they want locking away or would they rather get on with their life and accept that risk. The ones I deal with regularly in the course of my work are fucking terrified, angry, and feel forgotten. Some of them haven't stepped outside since February and are suffering enormously for it. Yes every single vulnerable person is having a really really hard time. So we should have just forced them to stay indoors all the time and have zero contact while the rest of us just carry on as normal and stay away from them like lepers?! Thank the lord the majority of us are a bit more caring than that" That being said, I'm treating everyone like a leper right now. GTF away from me, potential carrier of Covid ![]() | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() Also when you watch one video on a particular subject it fills your recommendations feed with other videos on that subject. If I watch cooking videos I mostly get recommended cooking videos, same with diet/fitness, ASMR etc. I watched like two cat videos last night and today my entire feed is cats. Not complaining though. | |||
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"If you are outside the normal range for road accidents do you still look before crossing the road Whose more likely to die on the roads? 85 year old or 25 year old Google is your friend" | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() Replacing cupcakes? | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point a person’s life is no longer worth anything;" Not true. NICE suggest your life is roughly £20,000 per year. ![]() | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts." Can you name one person on this thread who thinks one single person's life is no longer worth anything ? All I can see is people who have different opinions, do you everyone who has a different view to you a cunt ? | |||
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"Well the way I see it the bad orange man knocked it out in a week and he's a hamplanet who eats nothing but cheeseburgers..." He had every treatment including a fuckton of expensive experimental shit thrown at him. You or I won't get that. | |||
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"Yes they should say the survival rate of people who have had it. The figures would be more balanced that way and people would have accurate information. By only publishing death rates they are scaring people witless. " i dont think its about scaring people witless but i do think its a conscious decision to avoid people becoming complacent because you need everyone to pull in the same direction and if not as risk people dont comply they will spread it to the at risk people | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts. Can you name one person on this thread who thinks one single person's life is no longer worth anything ? All I can see is people who have different opinions, do you everyone who has a different view to you a cunt ? " I said there are people who think some people’s lives are worth less than others and there are people who aren’t cunts. Perhaps you should reflect on why you feel offended by what I said. | |||
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"In the media there are obviously reports of cases and deaths per day/week, but why don't they say the average age of deaths? Or the survival rate? Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ... The data is highly inaccurate, the death figures include people for whom the virus had no bearing on their deaths, but doesn't include others whose death may have been caused by the virus but they'd never had a test. The new infection figures are more accurate, but not representative due to the ever changing nature of testing. Obviously the more testing done, the more positive results will be found. A more useful measure of the infection rate is the ratio of positive tests to tests done, but that's not a figure that's published. Cal" even that method is flawed because the population of tests is targeted rather than random sample , it used to be people in hospital, then it was only symptoms, then it was all students and core workers households, now it will be all of liverpool .., difficult to track any trends when the goalposts keep moving | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts. Can you name one person on this thread who thinks one single person's life is no longer worth anything ? All I can see is people who have different opinions, do you everyone who has a different view to you a cunt ? I said there are people who think some people’s lives are worth less than others and there are people who aren’t cunts. Perhaps you should reflect on why you feel offended by what I said." Who are these people who have claimed what you say they have. who said I was offended ? | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() i am dave and so’s my wife .... oh wait .... thats brian ![]() | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts." ![]() | |||
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"Top and bottom of it all, follow the rules, protect the vulnerable and we get through all this. Try to break off into fragments based on opinions we won’t. Good luck everyone I’ll follow the sheeple and do as I’m told to help protect those more vulnerable." ![]() | |||
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"So what is the UK tipping point ? Lockdowns vs economy vs each other ?" No, the vast majority of people agree with lockdown, don’t take what you see on this forum as being representative. | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts. Can you name one person on this thread who thinks one single person's life is no longer worth anything ? All I can see is people who have different opinions, do you everyone who has a different view to you a cunt ? I said there are people who think some people’s lives are worth less than others and there are people who aren’t cunts. Perhaps you should reflect on why you feel offended by what I said. Who are these people who have claimed what you say they have. who said I was offended ? " You’re definitely not acting like someone who is offended, no sired, definitely not. | |||
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"Top and bottom of it all, follow the rules, protect the vulnerable and we get through all this. Try to break off into fragments based on opinions we won’t. Good luck everyone I’ll follow the sheeple and do as I’m told to help protect those more vulnerable. ![]() Exactly, the wolves only really can get the odd stray one or the weak ones on the edge. Strength comes in number. An example, I couldn’t roll a crashed car back on its wheels alone, however if enough other people helped me we could. | |||
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"So what is the UK tipping point ? Lockdowns vs economy vs each other ? No, the vast majority of people agree with lockdown, don’t take what you see on this forum as being representative." ![]() | |||
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"So what is the UK tipping point ? Lockdowns vs economy vs each other ? No, the vast majority of people agree with lockdown, don’t take what you see on this forum as being representative. ![]() Was that on YouTube/wiki or Google? ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts. ![]() They often lack awareness. | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts. Can you name one person on this thread who thinks one single person's life is no longer worth anything ? All I can see is people who have different opinions, do you everyone who has a different view to you a cunt ? I said there are people who think some people’s lives are worth less than others and there are people who aren’t cunts. Perhaps you should reflect on why you feel offended by what I said. Who are these people who have claimed what you say they have. who said I was offended ? You’re definitely not acting like someone who is offended, no sired, definitely not." So you cant name one person then but think anyone who disagrees with your view is a cunt, sounds like you're the one who is offended by other opinions . How exactly am I acting like I'm offended have I called you or anyone names for disagreeing with me, | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts. Can you name one person on this thread who thinks one single person's life is no longer worth anything ? All I can see is people who have different opinions, do you everyone who has a different view to you a cunt ? I said there are people who think some people’s lives are worth less than others and there are people who aren’t cunts. Perhaps you should reflect on why you feel offended by what I said. Who are these people who have claimed what you say they have. who said I was offended ? You’re definitely not acting like someone who is offended, no sired, definitely not. So you cant name one person then but think anyone who disagrees with your view is a cunt, sounds like you're the one who is offended by other opinions . How exactly am I acting like I'm offended have I called you or anyone names for disagreeing with me, " Nope, not offended, not in the slightest. | |||
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"Seems strange but the symptoms for bubonic plague is identical as Covid what are they hiding??" In the words of John MacEnroe, you cannot be serious.... ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Should read Overall infection survival rate is around 99.75%! Big difference Apologies I’m glad you corrected that before Dave on you tube got a chance to see it ![]() What do you think the D in CDC stands for....... E | |||
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"Seems strange but the symptoms for bubonic plague is identical as Covid what are they hiding??" Where the hell did you read that! Wherever it was... for the love of god please stop ! | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts. Can you name one person on this thread who thinks one single person's life is no longer worth anything ? All I can see is people who have different opinions, do you everyone who has a different view to you a cunt ? I said there are people who think some people’s lives are worth less than others and there are people who aren’t cunts. Perhaps you should reflect on why you feel offended by what I said. Who are these people who have claimed what you say they have. who said I was offended ? You’re definitely not acting like someone who is offended, no sired, definitely not. So you cant name one person then but think anyone who disagrees with your view is a cunt, sounds like you're the one who is offended by other opinions . How exactly am I acting like I'm offended have I called you or anyone names for disagreeing with me, " I know the answer to this one. By beligerently going on and on and fucking on about not being offended. What do I win? E | |||
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"I think the whole thing comes down to the fact that there are people who think that after a certain point (not a point they have hit yet, obviously) a person’s life is no longer worth anything; and there are people who aren’t cunts. Can you name one person on this thread who thinks one single person's life is no longer worth anything ? All I can see is people who have different opinions, do you everyone who has a different view to you a cunt ? I said there are people who think some people’s lives are worth less than others and there are people who aren’t cunts. Perhaps you should reflect on why you feel offended by what I said. Who are these people who have claimed what you say they have. who said I was offended ? You’re definitely not acting like someone who is offended, no sired, definitely not. So you cant name one person then but think anyone who disagrees with your view is a cunt, sounds like you're the one who is offended by other opinions . How exactly am I acting like I'm offended have I called you or anyone names for disagreeing with me, Nope, not offended, not in the slightest." Dunning-Krueger doesn't just apply to intelligence. | |||
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"In the media there are obviously reports of cases and deaths per day/week, but why don't they say the average age of deaths? Or the survival rate? Asked our local mp about the average age of deaths before the country was put into lockdown, took over a week to get an answer as public health England didn't want to publish for some reason ..." Because if 98% of the population decide they don’t need to take Covid seriously they other 2% are fked | |||
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"I havent either heard of the recovered stats on the news which is now 45.7mill, good news that. I have noticed that mainstream media do selective reporting of it." ![]() | |||
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