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"Check out this official website, particularly my Irish counterparts. Trolleygar, HSE. Tell me what you make of the numbers of people waiting on a hospital trolley to be admitted to the emergency department. Each day this year can be checked and is compared with the same date last year and the previous year. The percentage of people waiting is drastically reduced (I've noted percentages ranging between fifty odd percent to 98 and even 100%, but did only check a few dates here and there, but including every day this month) for some of the random dates I checked post March, through the summer and now into autumn and winter I find this kind of information shocking, considering we are told we have an epidemic on our hands and are in the strictest of lockdowns in Europe. I have also seen an article in the Irish Independentat the end of November last year before the year had even finished, claiming highest record of counting patients waiting on trolleys since records started: "The Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation (INMO) said on Friday that 108,364 people have gone without beds in 2019 so far – breaking 2018’s record high of 108,227, with a full month left to go in the year." I unfortunately couldn't find a complete tally for up to date this year. But given my spot check on dates, particularly critical and coinciding with our lockdowns, figures were significantly reduced for those dates spot checked. I ask myself where are all those people who statistically speaking so desperately needed emergency care consecutively in the last couple of years but all of a sudden this year don't?! And where are all the Covid 19 patients overrunning our hospital system?! Because we have as far as I'm aware not exceeded our average mortality rate this year, yes, we did have a death spike in April, with deaths due to or of Covid 19 still not exceeding 2000 deaths to date - and yes, tragic of course, as is every death. But where are all the heart attacks, stroke patients, accidents, COPD admissions, respiratory illnesses you would see admitted this time of year, where are all those who have in the past sought medical emergency treatment? Were they just hoaxers, did they suddenly over night or over the course of the year miraculously get healthier, are these people terrified of going to the hospital?! What is the cause of this?! Anyone, any insight..." There are a significant number of people who use A&E as a GP surgery when they cannot get an appointment, given the current circumstances these people have stopped doing that. Also there are more beds available within hospitals to move the patients into from A&E due to there being fewer elective admissions. The big issue with A&E departments tends not to be the number of people who attend them but how long they stay due to there not being a bed for them within the hospital. And, as compersion has said, Covid regulations mean patients are held in the ambulances until there is a place for them to go. | |||
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"Check out this official website, particularly my Irish counterparts. Trolleygar, HSE. Tell me what you make of the numbers of people waiting on a hospital trolley to be admitted to the emergency department. Each day this year can be checked and is compared with the same date last year and the previous year. The percentage of people waiting is drastically reduced (I've noted percentages ranging between fifty odd percent to 98 and even 100%, but did only check a few dates here and there, but including every day this month) for some of the random dates I checked post March, through the summer and now into autumn and winter I find this kind of information shocking, considering we are told we have an epidemic on our hands and are in the strictest of lockdowns in Europe. I have also seen an article in the Irish Independentat the end of November last year before the year had even finished, claiming highest record of counting patients waiting on trolleys since records started: "The Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation (INMO) said on Friday that 108,364 people have gone without beds in 2019 so far – breaking 2018’s record high of 108,227, with a full month left to go in the year." I unfortunately couldn't find a complete tally for up to date this year. But given my spot check on dates, particularly critical and coinciding with our lockdowns, figures were significantly reduced for those dates spot checked. I ask myself where are all those people who statistically speaking so desperately needed emergency care consecutively in the last couple of years but all of a sudden this year don't?! And where are all the Covid 19 patients overrunning our hospital system?! Because we have as far as I'm aware not exceeded our average mortality rate this year, yes, we did have a death spike in April, with deaths due to or of Covid 19 still not exceeding 2000 deaths to date - and yes, tragic of course, as is every death. But where are all the heart attacks, stroke patients, accidents, COPD admissions, respiratory illnesses you would see admitted this time of year, where are all those who have in the past sought medical emergency treatment? Were they just hoaxers, did they suddenly over night or over the course of the year miraculously get healthier, are these people terrified of going to the hospital?! What is the cause of this?! Anyone, any insight... There are a significant number of people who use A&E as a GP surgery when they cannot get an appointment, given the current circumstances these people have stopped doing that. Also there are more beds available within hospitals to move the patients into from A&E due to there being fewer elective admissions. The big issue with A&E departments tends not to be the number of people who attend them but how long they stay due to there not being a bed for them within the hospital. And, as compersion has said, Covid regulations mean patients are held in the ambulances until there is a place for them to go." Thank for your insights. I do understand of course that there would have been a percentage of people "abusing" A&E as GP surgeries. I don't believe Ireland has more hospital beds than before the crisis started but understand that elective surgery has taken a knock, freeing up beds. I can imagine that with lockdowns, fewer people on the roads, fewer sporting activities and fewer alcohol induced instances are also a cause of fewer people needing emergency treatment. And of course physical distancing means less transmission of infectious diseases...makes me wonder how our immune systems are doing, they must be shot considering we need contact with microorganisms to build immunity in the first place! As per the info on the ambulance being a "holding station" or effectively the trolley for the hospital, I do wonder is that also the case for the Republic of Ireland? Which effectively means an ambulance being a trolley service is an ambulance less for an emergency call out. I find that shocking... | |||
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"There are a significant number of people who use A&E as a GP surgery when they cannot get an appointment, given the current circumstances these people have stopped doing that. Also there are more beds available within hospitals to move the patients into from A&E due to there being fewer elective admissions. The big issue with A&E departments tends not to be the number of people who attend them but how long they stay due to there not being a bed for them within the hospital. And, as compersion has said, Covid regulations mean patients are held in the ambulances until there is a place for them to go. Thank for your insights. I do understand of course that there would have been a percentage of people "abusing" A&E as GP surgeries. I don't believe Ireland has more hospital beds than before the crisis started but understand that elective surgery has taken a knock, freeing up beds. I can imagine that with lockdowns, fewer people on the roads, fewer sporting activities and fewer alcohol induced instances are also a cause of fewer people needing emergency treatment. And of course physical distancing means less transmission of infectious diseases...makes me wonder how our immune systems are doing, they must be shot considering we need contact with microorganisms to build immunity in the first place! As per the info on the ambulance being a "holding station" or effectively the trolley for the hospital, I do wonder is that also the case for the Republic of Ireland? Which effectively means an ambulance being a trolley service is an ambulance less for an emergency call out. I find that shocking..." I’m not saying there are more beds, just that there are more beds available. I can’t really comment on Ireland as that’s not where my experience lies but in the UK a big issue is patient flow. There are definitely not enough beds in the UK health system but this issue is exacerbated due to the Tories having spent the last decade cutting social care to the bone. Put simply a lot of the problems with waiting times in A&E is due to the fact there are often no beds in the hospital to put the people who need them in, so they have to be nurses in A&E (being nursed in A&E when you should be admitted is a bad thing). If there are fewer elective patients in hospitals this ‘creates’ extra beds for A&E patients to go into, meaning fewer patients being nursed in A&E, whether in bays or corridors. | |||
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