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By *ady Lick OP   Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Given that it seems we are close to having a vaccine for this dreaded virus I was just wondering how nhs staff feel about it.

Are you going to have it or not? Just a yes or no will do.....

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"

Just a yes or no will do....."

I just spat my tea out lol

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By *usybee73Man
over a year ago

in the sticks

Could be mandatory ....

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By *oson-BlueCouple
over a year ago

North Kent

Yes

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

Yes

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Could never be mandatory, K is NHS and lots of her colleagues are dubious

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm currently undecided, as opposed to a solid no a few months back

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could be mandatory ...."

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would never be mandatory. We get offered the flu jab every year and the take up isn’t that high, and no one is ever forced .

I’m not 100% but leaning more towards yes - just for the sake of normality returning

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"

Just a yes or no will do.....

I just spat my tea out lol"

I know right, should know better by now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It would never be mandatory. We get offered the flu jab every year and the take up isn’t that high, and no one is ever forced .

I’m not 100% but leaning more towards yes - just for the sake of normality returning "

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By *usybee73Man
over a year ago

in the sticks

I wouldn't be surprised... especially the way its treated whistle blowers.

Considering the whats happened this year if airlines also insisted on a vaccine being taken.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

No

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

100% no

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By *exy_doctor87Man
over a year ago

Nottingham

Leaning towards a yes, depends on the outcome of the trials/side effect profile. Having said that, I do get the flu jab every year when offered...

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By *oved Up 2Couple
over a year ago

nottingham

Yes

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By *lice AgainTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes.

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By *hagTonightMan
over a year ago

From the land of haribos.

Both yes and no, yes as in they have started with it and no as in, it wont be ready in time as it takes about 10 years to develop a vaccine, it is important to test for the side effects too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

What will the life insurance implications for staff refusing the vaccine who in the course of duties become infected and die

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit

Yes

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By *iobhan123Woman
over a year ago

Deal

Undecided, logistically administering the vaccine is enough to think about right now!

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

No

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What will the life insurance implications for staff refusing the vaccine who in the course of duties become infected and die"

Are there any implications for health care staff on their life insurance in relation to refusal of any other vaccine?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"I wouldn't be surprised... especially the way its treated whistle blowers.

Considering the whats happened this year if airlines also insisted on a vaccine being taken."

That would be hard for airlines to enforce if not everyone is offered one. It may be you’ll still need to take a test prior to departure

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"What will the life insurance implications for staff refusing the vaccine who in the course of duties become infected and die

Are there any implications for health care staff on their life insurance in relation to refusal of any other vaccine?"

That's what I'm asking

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By *elnkazCouple
over a year ago

cheshire

Yep. Definetly. K

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What will the life insurance implications for staff refusing the vaccine who in the course of duties become infected and die

Are there any implications for health care staff on their life insurance in relation to refusal of any other vaccine?

That's what I'm asking

"

Apologies

I thought your question was specific to a Covid 19 vaccine, hence my curiosity about any existing clauses regarding any other vaccines

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy?? "

No but they could be redeployed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't be surprised... especially the way its treated whistle blowers.

Considering the whats happened this year if airlines also insisted on a vaccine being taken.

That would be hard for airlines to enforce if not everyone is offered one. It may be you’ll still need to take a test prior to departure "

There is talk about it being added to your passport as to whether you have had the vaccine and then it would be up to the discretion of the airline to take you or not. Also some countries may decide they won't let people in if they haven't had it but I guess only time will tell.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch


"I wouldn't be surprised... especially the way its treated whistle blowers.

Considering the whats happened this year if airlines also insisted on a vaccine being taken.

That would be hard for airlines to enforce if not everyone is offered one. It may be you’ll still need to take a test prior to departure

There is talk about it being added to your passport as to whether you have had the vaccine and then it would be up to the discretion of the airline to take you or not. Also some countries may decide they won't let people in if they haven't had it but I guess only time will tell. "

I can see that happening if everyone is actually offered the chance to take the vaccine, and that is not my understanding of it at the moment, ie the rumour is children (unless vulnerable) aren’t to be offered it.... so that’s the end of family holidays, I doubt it

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By *htcMan
over a year ago

MK

I will wait for all the world test dummy's go take there doses first, it's still not proven vaccine takes years to properly test not month's.

Like the Chinese vaccine your sick, high temperature, strong head aches, and in a bad way for several days. You have to pay for it and not work while you take it as your that weak you can't work at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will wait for all the world test dummy's go take there doses first, it's still not proven vaccine takes years to properly test not month's.

Like the Chinese vaccine your sick, high temperature, strong head aches, and in a bad way for several days. You have to pay for it and not work while you take it as your that weak you can't work at all."

Actually yes it takes years to develop a vaccine however the testing of said vaccine usually takes 9 to 15 months. I don't know why people don't understand that it takes so long because it's not normally such a priority it's nothing to do with compromising on the safety testing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will wait for all the world test dummy's go take there doses first, it's still not proven vaccine takes years to properly test not month's.

Like the Chinese vaccine your sick, high temperature, strong head aches, and in a bad way for several days. You have to pay for it and not work while you take it as your that weak you can't work at all."

Also I'd rather feel rough and take a week off work than constantly having to take 2 weeks off because I keep being told but I am in contact with somebody who was tested positive. I don't understand why anybody wouldn't do the same.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

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Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines? "

All the others as prevalent as they sit the moment? Are the others mainly being spread in hospitals and care homes? This is not comparable.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"What will the life insurance implications for staff refusing the vaccine who in the course of duties become infected and die

Are there any implications for health care staff on their life insurance in relation to refusal of any other vaccine?

That's what I'm asking

Apologies

I thought your question was specific to a Covid 19 vaccine, hence my curiosity about any existing clauses regarding any other vaccines"

No need to apologise, just thinking out loud as are many.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't be surprised... especially the way its treated whistle blowers.

Considering the whats happened this year if airlines also insisted on a vaccine being taken.

That would be hard for airlines to enforce if not everyone is offered one. It may be you’ll still need to take a test prior to departure

There is talk about it being added to your passport as to whether you have had the vaccine and then it would be up to the discretion of the airline to take you or not. Also some countries may decide they won't let people in if they haven't had it but I guess only time will tell. "

It will happen and Australia already on board and getting that rolled out

But freedoms arent being tsken away its all conspiracy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines?

All the others as prevalent as they sit the moment? Are the others mainly being spread in hospitals and care homes? This is not comparable. "

Sorry I don't quite understand your relly. I was asking a genuine question about other vaccines that are offered to NHS staff for communicable illnesses . I know it is not an issue in social care so wondered if it were in Health, and is it grounds for redeployment, which you highlighted as a possibility for staff who do not take up a covid vaccine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What will the life insurance implications for staff refusing the vaccine who in the course of duties become infected and die

Are there any implications for health care staff on their life insurance in relation to refusal of any other vaccine?

That's what I'm asking

Apologies

I thought your question was specific to a Covid 19 vaccine, hence my curiosity about any existing clauses regarding any other vaccines

No need to apologise, just thinking out loud as are many."

So do you know if such clauses are in place in regards to any other vaccines?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines?

All the others as prevalent as they sit the moment? Are the others mainly being spread in hospitals and care homes? This is not comparable.

Sorry I don't quite understand your relly. I was asking a genuine question about other vaccines that are offered to NHS staff for communicable illnesses . I know it is not an issue in social care so wondered if it were in Health, and is it grounds for redeployment, which you highlighted as a possibility for staff who do not take up a covid vaccine. "

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By *osweet69Couple
over a year ago

portsmouth

Our daughter is a front line nurse and she is saying she would not have it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Iknow someone who had a test sent out they kept it on top of the fridge and didn't use it. 4 days later they got a reply saying they tested positive. Hard job! Fucker didn't even get used!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines?

All the others as prevalent as they sit the moment? Are the others mainly being spread in hospitals and care homes? This is not comparable.

Sorry I don't quite understand your relly. I was asking a genuine question about other vaccines that are offered to NHS staff for communicable illnesses . I know it is not an issue in social care so wondered if it were in Health, and is it grounds for redeployment, which you highlighted as a possibility for staff who do not take up a covid vaccine. "

In all honesty I don't know, But I can definitely imagine a situation where only staff that have been vaccinated for covid are allowed to work on the front line.

Also I suspect that care homes would very much encourage their staff to have the vaccine and not sure the implications if they don't.

I know lots of people that work in the nhs and have but one said they would have it.

One who is my best friend is on the fence but only because she has allergies so isn't sure if she can have it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"100% no"

Is there any other form of NO

is 32% NO even a.... thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When a vaccine gets here it's totally up to people if they want it or not.

If they refuse it and then get the Corona then that's something they and others will have to deal with the fall-out.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines?

All the others as prevalent as they sit the moment? Are the others mainly being spread in hospitals and care homes? This is not comparable.

Sorry I don't quite understand your relly. I was asking a genuine question about other vaccines that are offered to NHS staff for communicable illnesses . I know it is not an issue in social care so wondered if it were in Health, and is it grounds for redeployment, which you highlighted as a possibility for staff who do not take up a covid vaccine.

In all honesty I don't know, But I can definitely imagine a situation where only staff that have been vaccinated for covid are allowed to work on the front line.

Also I suspect that care homes would very much encourage their staff to have the vaccine and not sure the implications if they don't.

I know lots of people that work in the nhs and have but one said they would have it.

One who is my best friend is on the fence but only because she has allergies so isn't sure if she can have it."

If she's worried about egg allergy etc, the Covid vaccine has nothing to do with egg. Because it's an mRNA vaccine, there's no virus to grow and harvest so no need for egg etc. Many flu vaccines are now egg free too because there are other ways to manufacture it, eg recombinant vaccines.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It will be nice to have the choice, most likely yes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not for a year or two ,to see if any unseen side effects

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Not for a year or two ,to see if any unseen side effects"

just watched utopia

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines?

All the others as prevalent as they sit the moment? Are the others mainly being spread in hospitals and care homes? This is not comparable.

Sorry I don't quite understand your relly. I was asking a genuine question about other vaccines that are offered to NHS staff for communicable illnesses . I know it is not an issue in social care so wondered if it were in Health, and is it grounds for redeployment, which you highlighted as a possibility for staff who do not take up a covid vaccine.

In all honesty I don't know, But I can definitely imagine a situation where only staff that have been vaccinated for covid are allowed to work on the front line.

Also I suspect that care homes would very much encourage their staff to have the vaccine and not sure the implications if they don't.

I know lots of people that work in the nhs and have but one said they would have it.

One who is my best friend is on the fence but only because she has allergies so isn't sure if she can have it.

If she's worried about egg allergy etc, the Covid vaccine has nothing to do with egg. Because it's an mRNA vaccine, there's no virus to grow and harvest so no need for egg etc. Many flu vaccines are now egg free too because there are other ways to manufacture it, eg recombinant vaccines."

To be honest she seems to have an allergy to everything.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I feel so strongly about this as at least 60% of the adult population need to be vaccinated for it to be effective. Some people can’t be vaccinated. As someone that has worked my whole career in the NHS I want to lead by example

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By *audyandMichaelCouple
over a year ago

Leicestershire

Yes, absolutely x

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By *atnat85Woman
over a year ago

northwest


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines? "

Kind of . When recruiting new starters(NHS) ours are told job offers may be withdrawn if they decline

Being immunized against certain diseases. However I have never personally come across an offer being withdrawn for that reason x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't be surprised... especially the way its treated whistle blowers.

Considering the whats happened this year if airlines also insisted on a vaccine being taken.

That would be hard for airlines to enforce if not everyone is offered one. It may be you’ll still need to take a test prior to departure

There is talk about it being added to your passport as to whether you have had the vaccine and then it would be up to the discretion of the airline to take you or not. Also some countries may decide they won't let people in if they haven't had it but I guess only time will tell.

It will happen and Australia already on board and getting that rolled out

But freedoms arent being tsken away its all conspiracy "

the freedom to enter a foreign country isnt actually a right ... its a privilege and one that could have been taken away at any point by a country covid or not

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By *umber coupleCouple
over a year ago

East Yorkshire


"Given that it seems we are close to having a vaccine for this dreaded virus I was just wondering how nhs staff feel about it.

Are you going to have it or not? Just a yes or no will do....."

Yes for both of us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By *osyredcheeksWoman
over a year ago

Plymouth


"Could be mandatory ...."

No it wouldn't... Same as the flu jab. Some ppl can't have the flu jab,and can't be forced to have it!

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By *osyredcheeksWoman
over a year ago

Plymouth

Yes I would have the Covid vaccine!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Thanks for all of your responses

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By *yn drwgMan
over a year ago

Camarthen


"What will the life insurance implications for staff refusing the vaccine who in the course of duties become infected and die"

It's been mentioned that having an antibody test can even affect your life/health insurance

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By *cloversCouple
over a year ago

Hull

Undecided - not sure what the guidance will be for those already having had the virus - I'll sit on the fence for now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

sheffield

No takes years to develop

vaccine, not enough studies into the potential side effects.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't be mandatory, its the same with flu jab. You just need to sign.

But if you get sick ...no sick leave. Etc

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By *rincess PhoenixWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

If it means we can come out of lockdown and get back to some form of normality I will take the vaccine - I miss hugs, kisses and sex!

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By *ldhillhotwifeCouple
over a year ago

Old Hill

Yes from me.

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By *osyredcheeksWoman
over a year ago

Plymouth


"What will the life insurance implications for staff refusing the vaccine who in the course of duties become infected and die

It's been mentioned that having an antibody test can even affect your life/health insurance"

How can having a simple blood test effect ur life/health insurance??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes from me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes. Definitely. Already have a flu jab, a pneumococcal jab so no problem having another if it keeps us well and safe and has an impact on infection rates

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By *achel SmythTV/TS
over a year ago

Farnborough

I have a flu jab every year - no problem.

I understand the clinical trials process so have faith it will be safe.

I don’t think it should be mandatory, it is down to choice... but maybe sign a waiver that they don’t want any healthcare provision if they do get COVID as a result ... or will accept they are a lower priority to be treated .... now there’s a thought!!

R x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel so strongly about this as at least 60% of the adult population need to be vaccinated for it to be effective. Some people can’t be vaccinated. As someone that has worked my whole career in the NHS I want to lead by example "

Agreed.

I will. But those that don’t will cause issues.

Look at those kids that suffered because of false research into MMR vaccines. All those that can, should.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’m a yes but do wonder what the scenario will be for those already on vaccine trials. About a 1/3rd of our department is already on the Oxford or Cambridge trial.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I feel so strongly about this as at least 60% of the adult population need to be vaccinated for it to be effective. Some people can’t be vaccinated. As someone that has worked my whole career in the NHS I want to lead by example

Agreed.

I will. But those that don’t will cause issues.

Look at those kids that suffered because of false research into MMR vaccines. All those that can, should. "

Agree 100%

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Thanks again all. Did anyone watch QT last night, mainly about the vaccine, it was interesting although I didn't watch it all. Fiona Bruce makes me go all

Anyway there was a guy saying that they don't even know how long the immunity lasts after having it. 3 months? 6 months? Also basically it was said they are rolling it out to protect the more vunerable amongst us not the person having it.

No children will have it either as there hasn't been enough testing.

I'm still 50/50.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"Yes"

Actually having a few doubts n about it now.

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By *ady Lick OP   Woman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere


"Yes

Actually having a few doubts n about it now."

May I ask why BB?

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton

Mines a yes.

I have been on a trial and will have to wait until end of my trial date in Jan when I get told if I had placebo or not etc.

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By *rFunBoyMan
over a year ago

Longridge

Guinea pigs!!

Anyone remember Iraq Syndrome?

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By *orkiecplCouple
over a year ago

York

The vaccination should be offered to all nhs staff 1st then ambulance then all care home staff and patience, we need the nhs staff to look after us when we ill so they must go 1st

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By *orrow my wifeCouple
over a year ago

Brighton


"Guinea pigs!!

Anyone remember Iraq Syndrome?"

That was completely different!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I wouldn't be surprised... especially the way its treated whistle blowers.

Considering the whats happened this year if airlines also insisted on a vaccine being taken."

There’s a very big difference between an employer forcing its staff to take a vaccine and an airline advising passengers, who can choose another airline, that they will be required to vaccinate before being allowed on its plane.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Given that it seems we are close to having a vaccine for this dreaded virus I was just wondering how nhs staff feel about it.

Are you going to have it or not? Just a yes or no will do....."

Yes

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke

Yes.

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By *urtleJRCouple
over a year ago

Ystradgynlais

Absolutely yes.

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By *rx1Couple
over a year ago

North of Okehampton, South of Bideford

YES

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

definately...and wear it like a badge!

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By *j48Man
over a year ago

Wigan


"The vaccination should be offered to all nhs staff 1st then ambulance then all care home staff and patience, we need the nhs staff to look after us when we ill so they must go 1st "

Isn't that a game of cards, or it it just biding your time?

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Apparently the covid vaccine has MRC-5 Caucasian aborted foetus cells in it..

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By *inkySeeKinkyDoWoman
over a year ago

'tween PontyCarlo & CasVegas in West Yorks


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy?? "

Many of my nursing colleagues wouldnt have the normal flu jab. A Trust I've worked for did go through a period of disciplining staff who were off sick through the winter months if they hadnt had the flu jab, so it wouldnt surprise me!

Ive always had it as actual full blown flu is horrendous, and having now had Covid-19 too, I definitely would

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

Many of my nursing colleagues wouldnt have the normal flu jab. A Trust I've worked for did go through a period of disciplining staff who were off sick through the winter months if they hadnt had the flu jab, so it wouldnt surprise me!

Ive always had it as actual full blown flu is horrendous, and having now had Covid-19 too, I definitely would

"

How did they prove it was definitely flu and definitely related to not having the vaccine?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Apparently the covid vaccine has MRC-5 Caucasian aborted foetus cells in it.."

Is that meant to be a bad thing?

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By *andKBCouple
over a year ago

Plymouth

I defintely think it could be a contractual agreement for NHS and care staff. No vaccine no job.

For me yes I'll have it! Personally covid and social isolation have been my own personal hell!! Im at the point where I'd rather die from a dodgy vaccine than live like this forever! Just my personal view.

I understand the need however, I dont think they fully understand the long term impact... its going to be massive!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hey mate...I just hope you've got that cork up your arse by now

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Still think vaccines are safe?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.html?fbclid=IwAR3A7DnTgDZ1g8K4Yzb0dMt2p4wmE9y8lioldSzjvw1RTlHVeZaZBLZ0wGA

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South


"Still think vaccines are safe?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.html?fbclid=IwAR3A7DnTgDZ1g8K4Yzb0dMt2p4wmE9y8lioldSzjvw1RTlHVeZaZBLZ0wGA"

Yes... safer than the disease they’re protecting us from anyway. When my mum was a small child in east London kids were suffering all around her from polio .... doesn’t exist now. So yes yes and yes again.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"Apparently the covid vaccine has MRC-5 Caucasian aborted foetus cells in it.."

I think the MCR-5 in question is only derived from the original research which indeed was derived from a 14 week Caucasian foetus?

The use of MCR-5 vaccines has been endorsed by the majority of faith leaders including the Vatican.

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By *allySlinkyWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"Apparently the covid vaccine has MRC-5 Caucasian aborted foetus cells in it.."

Why is it relevant what colour the foetus was ?

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"Apparently the covid vaccine has MRC-5 Caucasian aborted foetus cells in it..

Why is it relevant what colour the foetus was ?"

Because the MCR-5 diploid cell culture line was specifically derived from a 14 week Caucasian aborted foetus.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

*Sigh*

Read this, in particular the final section: BBC News - The coronavirus pandemic 'great reset' theory and a false vaccine claim debunked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55017002

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"*Sigh*

Read this, in particular the final section: BBC News - The coronavirus pandemic 'great reset' theory and a false vaccine claim debunked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55017002"

Are you telling me that the vaccine definitely won't contain bill gates semen

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Still think vaccines are safe?

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.html?fbclid=IwAR3A7DnTgDZ1g8K4Yzb0dMt2p4wmE9y8lioldSzjvw1RTlHVeZaZBLZ0wGA"

Might I suggest you click on your link and actually read the 3 most recent issues ?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West


"*Sigh*

Read this, in particular the final section: BBC News - The coronavirus pandemic 'great reset' theory and a false vaccine claim debunked

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55017002

Are you telling me that the vaccine definitely won't contain bill gates semen "

No semen, but Sandra off FB told me it's got unicorn tears in, and I'm opposed to the exploitation of unicorns

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By *aughty_builder87Man
over a year ago

Keston

Had the conversation with my wife who is a midwife and she said she will definitely have it for the sake of her mental health. I will have it when I'm offered it so we can move on with my life

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central


"I will wait for all the world test dummy's go take there doses first, it's still not proven vaccine takes years to properly test not month's.

Like the Chinese vaccine your sick, high temperature, strong head aches, and in a bad way for several days. You have to pay for it and not work while you take it as your that weak you can't work at all.

Actually yes it takes years to develop a vaccine however the testing of said vaccine usually takes 9 to 15 months. I don't know why people don't understand that it takes so long because it's not normally such a priority it's nothing to do with compromising on the safety testing. "

It takes the time each does for many reasons, often related to securing finance for each stage, deployment of vaccine trials in many different countries around the world, securing authorisations for the trials in each different country as well as the potentially tough job of getting tens or hundreds of thousands of volunteers in so many different places, to be found and to agree to trialling something for a disease that they may have little interest in.

Compare that with today, where every country is impacted, people are motivated wanting to get this over with and to contribute to well-being every where. Plus funding is more readily available, governments are interested too, helping to ease the way.

A lot of what you claim to be the 'years to develop a vaccine' has been eased for so very many reasons that you've perhaps overlooked. Much of the standard time frame for stages 2 and 3, with protraction between them, isn't related to safety or science, nor thoroughness of how things are done - it's related to money, bureaucracy, disinterest amongst countries that take persuasion, education and time to get on board amongst other factors.

The present global cooperation and speed with scientific research sharing is unprecedented in its levels of achievement. The many years of determined hard work undertaken by people such as those working on mRNA, underpins much of what we've done. We've not started from scratch since January this year - many earlier years' hard work has contributed to what we've gained.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I will wait for all the world test dummy's go take there doses first, it's still not proven vaccine takes years to properly test not month's.

Like the Chinese vaccine your sick, high temperature, strong head aches, and in a bad way for several days. You have to pay for it and not work while you take it as your that weak you can't work at all.

Actually yes it takes years to develop a vaccine however the testing of said vaccine usually takes 9 to 15 months. I don't know why people don't understand that it takes so long because it's not normally such a priority it's nothing to do with compromising on the safety testing.

It takes the time each does for many reasons, often related to securing finance for each stage, deployment of vaccine trials in many different countries around the world, securing authorisations for the trials in each different country as well as the potentially tough job of getting tens or hundreds of thousands of volunteers in so many different places, to be found and to agree to trialling something for a disease that they may have little interest in.

Compare that with today, where every country is impacted, people are motivated wanting to get this over with and to contribute to well-being every where. Plus funding is more readily available, governments are interested too, helping to ease the way.

A lot of what you claim to be the 'years to develop a vaccine' has been eased for so very many reasons that you've perhaps overlooked. Much of the standard time frame for stages 2 and 3, with protraction between them, isn't related to safety or science, nor thoroughness of how things are done - it's related to money, bureaucracy, disinterest amongst countries that take persuasion, education and time to get on board amongst other factors.

The present global cooperation and speed with scientific research sharing is unprecedented in its levels of achievement. The many years of determined hard work undertaken by people such as those working on mRNA, underpins much of what we've done. We've not started from scratch since January this year - many earlier years' hard work has contributed to what we've gained. "

Well said

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Apparently the covid vaccine has MRC-5 Caucasian aborted foetus cells in it..

Why is it relevant what colour the foetus was ?"

Not relevant to me. Here's the link on the science. You decide

https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2020/05/63752/

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By *BW BlondeWoman
over a year ago

Castleford

Yes, but they can't make it mandatory. Staff will still reserve the right to say no.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Could never be mandatory, K is NHS and lots of her colleagues are dubious"

Depends how you define mandatory.

If by mandatory you mean you will be under indefinite house arrest unless you have it, then yes it absolutely will be mandatory.

As for whether I'll take it, not unless I'm forced.

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

The gov wouldn’t give it out if they knew it was unsafe. It’s more of a question of if it will do its job.

NHS staff could be receiving the jab in a matter of days.

Get jabbed, let’s get the f**k out of this mess ASAP

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

From what I understand it’s the elderly and vulnerable first then nhs staff and care home staff. Yes I shall be having it

Mrs ikc

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From what I understand it’s the elderly and vulnerable first then nhs staff and care home staff. Yes I shall be having it

Mrs ikc"

Its at the same time.

Care home residents and staff first then 80+ and Frontline NSH staff.

The very high risk under 60 are 6th on the list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes I will have it, someone should host vaccinated only swingers nights ??

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester


"The gov wouldn’t give it out if they knew it was unsafe. It’s more of a question of if it will do its job.

NHS staff could be receiving the jab in a matter of days.

Get jabbed, let’s get the f**k out of this mess ASAP"

Government care ? Hahahahahahahah

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By *oss25Man
over a year ago

Flitwick and Fakenham

Yes: the Oxford vaccine was being developed 2 years ago, is based on proven old tech and is hopefully going to give us a route back to “normal”

I will def be in the queue

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

Not in the NHS but I put my name down to be tested.

If it helps to end this.

At my age being single with no dependants and more expendable than most it dosnt matter hugely if I dont make it.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

I have no idea why we are not giving the vaccine to the 18-30's first.

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By *eavenscentitCouple
over a year ago

barnstaple

Let the younger members of society get out of this misery.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Given that it seems we are close to having a vaccine for this dreaded virus I was just wondering how nhs staff feel about it.

Are you going to have it or not? Just a yes or no will do....."

Yes

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By *heartsasoneCouple
over a year ago

home PL19 or on boat PL4

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines? "

Vaccines aren’t mandatory

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster


"Could be mandatory ....

You really think the NHS will sack staff for exercising their basic human right to bodily autonomy??

No but they could be redeployed.

Out of interest, do they redeploy staff who decline other vaccines?

Vaccines aren’t mandatory "

I'm hoping they will be mandatory for all overseas travel

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By *incskittenWoman
over a year ago

Nottingham


"Let the younger members of society get out of this misery. "

Disagree

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