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By *om girl OP   Couple (FF)
over a year ago

South Yorkshire

Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire

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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago

Fabville

1. Covid is a new illness, so doctors didn't fully understand the disease process and how best to treat it. Survival rates are now much better.

2. If people stopped whinging about their civil rights, and started thinking more about their civil responsibilities, wouldn't things be so much better? We wouldn't be in a second lockdown thanks to the thousands of selfish gits thinking only about themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Possibly because you can be asymptomatic for 10 to 14 days and then you don’t die immediately. It’s not really that hard to work out that the lockdown was to slow the spread as the damage had already been done as it has now.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

Its not a case of what "can I do" but more importantly, a case of what "should I do".

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By *om girl OP   Couple (FF)
over a year ago

South Yorkshire

Do you really think the virus is going anywhere soon

No

how many peoole does the flu kill and rhey got a flu jab for that

And how many more people going due from other things

We got to live with it

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

The government passes laws. That's what it does and what it's always done. Telling people what they can and can't do.

People in governments disagree, it's a majority rules system to pass laws.

Hope this helps

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Living in a State means that we give up some freedoms to live within the framework of the state.

We abide by the laws and receive their protection.

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By *om girl OP   Couple (FF)
over a year ago

South Yorkshire


"The government passes laws. That's what it does and what it's always done. Telling people what they can and can't do.

People in governments disagree, it's a majority rules system to pass laws.

Hope this helps "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Do you really think the virus is going anywhere soon

No

how many peoole does the flu kill and rhey got a flu jab for that

And how many more people going due from other things

We got to live with it "

Well there is no jab for this coronavirus for a start. And this coronavirus is so deadly because asymptomatic people can pass it on to people who have underlying problems that are exacerbated by the virus. Yeah I agree that at some point we will have to find a way to live with it, but lockdowns do help. If we'd all followed New Zealand's example at the start of this we would all be back to normal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The government passes laws. That's what it does and what it's always done. Telling people what they can and can't do.

People in governments disagree, it's a majority rules system to pass laws.

Hope this helps "

Yeah I guess this is right. We all have to hope and pray that this power they have been bestowed does not become permanent.

It is not this lot you have to worry about. it is the lot that comes after them.

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London


"Do you really think the virus is going anywhere soon

No

how many peoole does the flu kill and rhey got a flu jab for that

And how many more people going due from other things

We got to live with it

Well there is no jab for this coronavirus for a start. And this coronavirus is so deadly because asymptomatic people can pass it on to people who have underlying problems that are exacerbated by the virus. Yeah I agree that at some point we will have to find a way to live with it, but lockdowns do help. If we'd all followed New Zealand's example at the start of this we would all be back to normal."

We wouldn't. New Zealand is a totally different country with very different (and favourable) circumstances and conditions.

It's no coincidence that other European countries like Greece, Italy, France and Germany are experiencing similar spikes to the UK despite wide adherence to Covid control measures.

It's time we stopped blaming and scapegoating.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high"

Because exactly the same as last time, the damage, the infections have already happened. We will see 8 weeks of infections, decline, death, secondary infections, decline, death... it’s the way this virus works.

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By *eglieanCouple
over a year ago

Torbay

Perhaps the OP who posted he thread would like to tell everyone what she would do if she was burgled, had her car nicked or been mugged. Needed hospital treatment. Then the dictatorship state no doubt be called to help. Don't think this country is China or north Korea.

We still live in one of the freest places on the planet. Everyone plays their bit and it has at least a chance of getting back to some normality.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"The government passes laws. That's what it does and what it's always done. Telling people what they can and can't do.

People in governments disagree, it's a majority rules system to pass laws.

Hope this helps

Yeah I guess this is right. We all have to hope and pray that this power they have been bestowed does not become permanent.

It is not this lot you have to worry about. it is the lot that comes after them."

Sure. But it is as it's always been. Have a look into Parliamentary supremacy. It's the underlying basis of the British Constitution. If they get the votes, they can do what they like.

It's a 300 year old principle. It's not new.

The fact that people are kicking off about parliamentary power now is in equal parts amusing and sad.

One can be on the side of public health measures and also worry about government abuse of power.

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By *urga2076Woman
over a year ago

London

5 friends have landed in london airports. All strictly adhere to rules on flights. All mention several hours of bedlam at the airports. No social distancing no nothing. So I'm thinking it doesn't matter what we do for lockdown the govt is actually going for herd immunity and lockdown is just trying not to allows cases to spike so NHS can handle it?

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high"

Omg, why these same questions that have been answered here, other sites, the media? It really is unbelievable!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high"

We live in a parliamentary democracy, we vote every five years or so for a government and they then make decisions on our behalf. If you don’t like the way this government is doing things then you can vote for the other main party in about four years.

I get that you don’t agree with everything the government is doing but can I suggest you put your big girl pants on behave like a grown up.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

My main questions going out of this will be: how do we improve civics education, how do we improve basic science education, and how do we teach people to find worthwhile causes so they can understand what's going on in the world.

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham

Yeah, Government say how we must live. It's disgraceful!

Can't murder!

Can't even rob banks!

Have to give them money for useless things like roads, education and hospitals!

What a con!

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high

We live in a parliamentary democracy, we vote every five years or so for a government and they then make decisions on our behalf. If you don’t like the way this government is doing things then you can vote for the other main party in about four years.

I get that you don’t agree with everything the government is doing but can I suggest you put your big girl pants on behave like a grown up."

I don't agree with what the government is doing at this point (public health measures yes, the way they're doing it no). The jump from "I think they're doing it wrong" to "they're acting illegitimately" is like something out of The Matrix.

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"My main questions going out of this will be: how do we improve civics education, how do we improve basic science education, and how do we teach people to find worthwhile causes so they can understand what's going on in the world."

Sure are some very deep roots to it all. Feels like even before social media came into the spotlight the notion of binge drinking and the likes showed where many people were happy to be lead. And now there are global systems giving permission to not care about others... Such a hard one to turn around.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"My main questions going out of this will be: how do we improve civics education, how do we improve basic science education, and how do we teach people to find worthwhile causes so they can understand what's going on in the world.

Sure are some very deep roots to it all. Feels like even before social media came into the spotlight the notion of binge drinking and the likes showed where many people were happy to be lead. And now there are global systems giving permission to not care about others... Such a hard one to turn around. "

Definitely

And the rotten fruits are being harvested

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"My main questions going out of this will be: how do we improve civics education, how do we improve basic science education, and how do we teach people to find worthwhile causes so they can understand what's going on in the world.

Sure are some very deep roots to it all. Feels like even before social media came into the spotlight the notion of binge drinking and the likes showed where many people were happy to be lead. And now there are global systems giving permission to not care about others... Such a hard one to turn around. "

It’s completely alien to our evolutionary development, we are a communal species and our incredibly quick move to individualism has not worked out well.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"My main questions going out of this will be: how do we improve civics education, how do we improve basic science education, and how do we teach people to find worthwhile causes so they can understand what's going on in the world.

Sure are some very deep roots to it all. Feels like even before social media came into the spotlight the notion of binge drinking and the likes showed where many people were happy to be lead. And now there are global systems giving permission to not care about others... Such a hard one to turn around.

It’s completely alien to our evolutionary development, we are a communal species and our incredibly quick move to individualism has not worked out well."

God, so much.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

You can drag a fool to knowledge but you can't make it think

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high"

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high"

MPs and scientists may be under house arrest. Some of them. They may be threatened with loss of pension or worse. A coup may have taken place. Dictators

rule by decree.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"Do you really think the virus is going anywhere soon

No

how many peoole does the flu kill and rhey got a flu jab for that

And how many more people going due from other things

We got to live with it "

We do have to learn with it. I am very disappointed in our education system though, it has clearly failed to teach people like yourself basic concepts like exponential growth. Without intervention this virus would rapidly put us in a position were we have 2 patients fighting for every critical care bed that the NHS can provide.

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high

We live in a parliamentary democracy, we vote every five years or so for a government and they then make decisions on our behalf. If you don’t like the way this government is doing things then you can vote for the other main party in about four years.

I get that you don’t agree with everything the government is doing but can I suggest you put your big girl pants on behave like a grown up.

I don't agree with what the government is doing at this point (public health measures yes, the way they're doing it no). The jump from "I think they're doing it wrong" to "they're acting illegitimately" is like something out of The Matrix."

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By *he shaggersCouple
over a year ago

vancouver island

Imagine what the death rate might have been if the country had not been locked down

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By *ntrepid ExplorersCouple
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Imagine what the death rate might have been if the country had not been locked down"

Then morons say "Oh but the projections were so wrong" as if there wasn't a teensy tiiny little thing that changed what the reality ended up being...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high"

I feel the frustration.

As much as I don't trust this government. Lockdowns do achieve their purpose, which is to slow the infection rate.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"You can drag a fool to knowledge but you can't make it think"
love it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone of voting age and who is registered gets the chance to keep or reject the incumbent government every maximum 5 years.

Not a perfect system but it is democratic.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I have no doubt if op went to live in Russia, North Korea, China, Bhutan, Saudi Arabia, Syria.. Any of the countries who live under a genuine dictatorship that many of our freedoms would be better appreciated.

That's not to say that we have absolutely had some freedoms eroded, especially around technology, data and personal information... But to suggest we are in a dictatorship because we are trying to manage our way through a global pandemic and because many aren't able to do the right thing, we require legislation.

Not being able to go to a pub or a gym for a few months, or being asked to wear a face mask when close to people does not constitute a dictatorship.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

We elected our representatives to do just that. It's a society with many restrictions and always has been. They change over time, with some time limited ones, such as during a crisis.

There may be laws that you disagree with but you can campaign to change them. The greater good is most important during a crisis. If you remember a world war, you will remember restrictions that you had to comply with. If you work, you will also have conditions imposed on you by law and your employer - it may be tougher than when you were at school but you will be rewarded, giving you other freedoms and possibilities.

You're in a month long lockdown in England but are still able to do many things. You won't be subject to police state measures if you abide by the sensible precautions and laws in place, to keep you and others well. Experience has built up which means that approaches are better than earlier. The scientific process may fascinate you, if you research it and discover how things are investigated and improved upon - the Internet is a useful tool to help you to learn, if you invest your time wisely.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"We elected our representatives to do just that. It's a society with many restrictions and always has been. They change over time, with some time limited ones, such as during a crisis.

There may be laws that you disagree with but you can campaign to change them. The greater good is most important during a crisis. If you remember a world war, you will remember restrictions that you had to comply with. If you work, you will also have conditions imposed on you by law and your employer - it may be tougher than when you were at school but you will be rewarded, giving you other freedoms and possibilities.

You're in a month long lockdown in England but are still able to do many things. You won't be subject to police state measures if you abide by the sensible precautions and laws in place, to keep you and others well. Experience has built up which means that approaches are better than earlier. The scientific process may fascinate you, if you research it and discover how things are investigated and improved upon - the Internet is a useful tool to help you to learn, if you invest your time wisely. "

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"Imagine what the death rate might have been if the country had not been locked down"

Therein lies the problem.

Some people appear to have no problem imagining a worldwide plot to undermine their rights and Bill Gates running around with a lethal vaccine containing lumps of foetus in it.

Ask them what would have happened without a lockdown and their imagination switches off...

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves. "

I would like you to take a look at this news report Mr. Narwhal,tell me your thoughts on it, iv posted it in another thread but probably be overlooked

https://youtu.be/kGBEaYEtiys

Sky news Australia

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I would like you to take a look at this news report Mr. Narwhal,tell me your thoughts on it, iv posted it in another thread but probably be overlooked

https://youtu.be/kGBEaYEtiys

Sky news Australia

"

Alan Jones

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I would like you to take a look at this news report Mr. Narwhal,tell me your thoughts on it, iv posted it in another thread but probably be overlooked

https://youtu.be/kGBEaYEtiys

Sky news Australia

Alan Jones "

Not his words, he's quoting

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I would like you to take a look at this news report Mr. Narwhal,tell me your thoughts on it, iv posted it in another thread but probably be overlooked

https://youtu.be/kGBEaYEtiys

Sky news Australia

Alan Jones

Not his words, he's quoting"

So an official in finance in a state with 5 million people is more authoritative than the World Heath Organisation, whose actual job it is to declare a pandemic?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I would like you to take a look at this news report Mr. Narwhal,tell me your thoughts on it, iv posted it in another thread but probably be overlooked

https://youtu.be/kGBEaYEtiys

Sky news Australia

Alan Jones

Not his words, he's quoting

So an official in finance in a state with 5 million people is more authoritative than the World Heath Organisation, whose actual job it is to declare a pandemic?"

Thanks for your comment

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I would like you to take a look at this news report Mr. Narwhal,tell me your thoughts on it, iv posted it in another thread but probably be overlooked

https://youtu.be/kGBEaYEtiys

Sky news Australia

Alan Jones

Not his words, he's quoting

So an official in finance in a state with 5 million people is more authoritative than the World Heath Organisation, whose actual job it is to declare a pandemic?

Thanks for your comment "

It was a question.

I thought you were against mainstream media? Sky is owned by Murdoch, whose market share of media in Australia is approximately 70% last I looked.

Mainstream media bias!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I would like you to take a look at this news report Mr. Narwhal,tell me your thoughts on it, iv posted it in another thread but probably be overlooked

https://youtu.be/kGBEaYEtiys

Sky news Australia

Alan Jones

Not his words, he's quoting

So an official in finance in a state with 5 million people is more authoritative than the World Heath Organisation, whose actual job it is to declare a pandemic?

Thanks for your comment

It was a question.

I thought you were against mainstream media? Sky is owned by Murdoch, whose market share of media in Australia is approximately 70% last I looked.

Mainstream media bias!"

It's not that I don't want to chat and debate about this, I do, just not with someone who actively seeks out threads to argue on,I don't think you have said a positive thing on any thread that iv read, have a nice day

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I would like you to take a look at this news report Mr. Narwhal,tell me your thoughts on it, iv posted it in another thread but probably be overlooked

https://youtu.be/kGBEaYEtiys

Sky news Australia

Alan Jones

Not his words, he's quoting

So an official in finance in a state with 5 million people is more authoritative than the World Heath Organisation, whose actual job it is to declare a pandemic?

Thanks for your comment

It was a question.

I thought you were against mainstream media? Sky is owned by Murdoch, whose market share of media in Australia is approximately 70% last I looked.

Mainstream media bias!

It's not that I don't want to chat and debate about this, I do, just not with someone who actively seeks out threads to argue on,I don't think you have said a positive thing on any thread that iv read, have a nice day "

You're obviously not looking hard enough. Or you have a different definition of "positive" to me.

It was a legitimate question.

A finance public servant in a state of 5 million people, even a high ranking one, is not a public health expert of the ranking that would work for the WHO let alone make decisions for the entire world.

You have stated repeatedly that you are against mainstream media. 70% of a country's market share is pretty mainstream, yes?

And that's not even getting into Alan Jones

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
over a year ago

Wales/ All over UK


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I would like you to take a look at this news report Mr. Narwhal,tell me your thoughts on it, iv posted it in another thread but probably be overlooked

https://youtu.be/kGBEaYEtiys

Sky news Australia

Alan Jones

Not his words, he's quoting

So an official in finance in a state with 5 million people is more authoritative than the World Heath Organisation, whose actual job it is to declare a pandemic?

Thanks for your comment

It was a question.

I thought you were against mainstream media? Sky is owned by Murdoch, whose market share of media in Australia is approximately 70% last I looked.

Mainstream media bias!

It's not that I don't want to chat and debate about this, I do, just not with someone who actively seeks out threads to argue on,I don't think you have said a positive thing on any thread that iv read, have a nice day "

I’ve seen your interaction with Inaswingdress on a few of these type of threads now... and to me it appears that you would only class something as “positive” if it fit in with your conspiracy theory outlook...

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high"

You really need to do some homework especially about the purpose of lockdowns and the delay between infection and death.

It's been described in great detail here on dozens of not hundreds of times.

The great british public electcted the government to tell them what to do, expect this time they elected a bunch of monkeys who said they can stop the dinghies crossing the channel

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high

You really need to do some homework especially about the purpose of lockdowns and the delay between infection and death.

It's been described in great detail here on dozens of not hundreds of times.

The great british public electcted the government to tell them what to do, expect this time they elected a bunch of monkeys who said they can stop the dinghies crossing the channel"

Made me lol

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By *heRazorsEdgeMan
over a year ago

Wales/ All over UK


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high

You really need to do some homework especially about the purpose of lockdowns and the delay between infection and death.

It's been described in great detail here on dozens of not hundreds of times.

The great british public electcted the government to tell them what to do, expect this time they elected a bunch of monkeys who said they can stop the dinghies crossing the channel"

Don’t forget “getting Brexit done”...

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By *ob198XaMan
over a year ago

teleford


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves. "

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Its just we seem to be getting told what we can and cant do

And coz the government's and media say how we should live we must follow

My questions is how come now the same government back benchers dont agree with lockdown

How come some scientists dont agree

Why do we blame each other for not following the rule

Even if we dont agree

Last thing if the county was closed for month first time and no one was moving about why was death daily rate so high"

A truthful reply to that question will result in a 24 hour timeout so try Google

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By *reyyaMan
over a year ago

North Yorkshire


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves. "

I hope when they ask you to report to the High Street of your town at 6 pm with a small bag containing toiletries and one change of clothing, do not arrive by your own car, walk, get a lift, bus, train, tram or taxi, that you are not on the Red List or the Blue List. Turn all you lights off and don't forget to put the cat out.

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I hope when they ask you to report to the High Street of your town at 6 pm with a small bag containing toiletries and one change of clothing, do not arrive by your own car, walk, get a lift, bus, train, tram or taxi, that you are not on the Red List or the Blue List. Turn all you lights off and don't forget to put the cat out. "

This is rather melodramatic.

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By *oggoneMan
over a year ago

Derry


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I hope when they ask you to report to the High Street of your town at 6 pm with a small bag containing toiletries and one change of clothing, do not arrive by your own car, walk, get a lift, bus, train, tram or taxi, that you are not on the Red List or the Blue List. Turn all you lights off and don't forget to put the cat out.

This is rather melodramatic."

That is an understatement.

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I hope when they ask you to report to the High Street of your town at 6 pm with a small bag containing toiletries and one change of clothing, do not arrive by your own car, walk, get a lift, bus, train, tram or taxi, that you are not on the Red List or the Blue List. Turn all you lights off and don't forget to put the cat out. "

Have you seen people being required to do that? I haven't... All I've seen is people being asked to wash their hands, keep their distance and show some common sense to not spread an air borne virus.

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By *moothman2000Man
over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

I hope when they ask you to report to the High Street of your town at 6 pm with a small bag containing toiletries and one change of clothing, do not arrive by your own car, walk, get a lift, bus, train, tram or taxi, that you are not on the Red List or the Blue List. Turn all you lights off and don't forget to put the cat out. "

And what possible reason would 'they' have for doing that?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I hope when they ask you to report to the High Street of your town at 6 pm with a small bag containing toiletries and one change of clothing, do not arrive by your own car, walk, get a lift, bus, train, tram or taxi, that you are not on the Red List or the Blue List. Turn all you lights off and don't forget to put the cat out.

This is rather melodramatic."

Tell them they can’t go to the pub for a month and they act like they’re in Nazi Germany, what a good job we didn’t have to rely on these snowflakes during WWII.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I hope when they ask you to report to the High Street of your town at 6 pm with a small bag containing toiletries and one change of clothing, do not arrive by your own car, walk, get a lift, bus, train, tram or taxi, that you are not on the Red List or the Blue List. Turn all you lights off and don't forget to put the cat out.

This is rather melodramatic.

Tell them they can’t go to the pub for a month and they act like they’re in Nazi Germany, what a good job we didn’t have to rely on these snowflakes during WWII."

Exactly!

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By *ackformore100Man
over a year ago

Tin town


"Having served in the forces and seen first hand, states where freedom is an unknown; we in the UK have it really easy.

We don't spend every waking hour wondering if our government is going to drop a bomb on our homes because of our belief or ethnicity.

We don't worry that our government actively incarcerate and murder innocent people for talking about democracy.

Yet this and other crimes against humanity goes on across the world, while here is poor us moaning when we aren't allowed to go out and get pissed or told we have to wear a facemask to prevent us spreading a virus that can kill others.

The world does not revolve around you, stop behaving like it does!

Some people really need to recalibrate their moral compass and start thinking of others as much as themselves.

I hope when they ask you to report to the High Street of your town at 6 pm with a small bag containing toiletries and one change of clothing, do not arrive by your own car, walk, get a lift, bus, train, tram or taxi, that you are not on the Red List or the Blue List. Turn all you lights off and don't forget to put the cat out. "

I've had a further thought about this... Its

Kind of like getting on an easyjet flight at Gatwick you mean?

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