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"Seeing as Vitamin D is cheap as chips, compared to the billions being spent elsewhere, is there not a case for a government distribution scheme to all households? My back of envelope calculation suggests a total cost less than £200 million for everyone in the country to have a years supply? " Or people could just take responsibility for their own health? | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this?" It’s not so much the cost of the vitamin, I’m thinking more about it being a government campaign to raise awareness, envelopes through doors, like when they put condoms through the letterbox for the eighties AIDS campaigns. | |||
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"It's been proposed for food fortification, similar to the other vitamins that get added. It's common in other countries and I think we should do it. " I agree, I don't think there are any downsides? | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this?" After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? | |||
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"Seeing as Vitamin D is cheap as chips, compared to the billions being spent elsewhere, is there not a case for a government distribution scheme to all households? My back of envelope calculation suggests a total cost less than £200 million for everyone in the country to have a years supply? Or people could just take responsibility for their own health?" And how’s that going so far? | |||
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"Or people could just take responsibility for their own health?" Yeah....because that’s been working well in the pandemic so far, eh? | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they?" Well us ludicrously rich Southerners should be fine however i take your point for anyone North of the Watford Gap  | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they?" Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins..."  | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins..." Bullshit. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? It’s not so much the cost of the vitamin, I’m thinking more about it being a government campaign to raise awareness, envelopes through doors, like when they put condoms through the letterbox for the eighties AIDS campaigns." And dont forget how much it would save the NHS in the long run as it's been proved that it boosts the immune system | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... Bullshit." You’ve clearly never struggled... | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? It’s not so much the cost of the vitamin, I’m thinking more about it being a government campaign to raise awareness, envelopes through doors, like when they put condoms through the letterbox for the eighties AIDS campaigns. And dont forget how much it would save the NHS in the long run as it's been proved that it boosts the immune system "Well that’s my point really, cost / benefit, but I wanted to be clear that there is of course an upfront cost in giving out Vitamin D. Kind of assuming also that there would be health benefits against other viruses, improvement in general well-being etc, | |||
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"It's been proposed for food fortification, similar to the other vitamins that get added. It's common in other countries and I think we should do it. I agree, I don't think there are any downsides?" Unfortunately it is not straight forward- - Vit D is a fat soluble vitamin unlike for example Vit C which is water soluble and flushed out with urine. Vitamin D toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis D, is a rare but potentially serious condition that occurs when you have excessive amounts of vitamin D in your body. Vitamin D toxicity is usually caused by large doses of vitamin D supplements — not by diet or sun exposure. So it needs weighing up, especially for people who already take a daily multivitamin. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... Bullshit. You’ve clearly never struggled..." I think Clems position is that if people are experiencing poverty it is because of their poor decisions and as such are undeserving. I wouldn't where to start with beliefs like that. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... Bullshit. You’ve clearly never struggled... I think Clems position is that if people are experiencing poverty it is because of their poor decisions and as such are undeserving. I wouldn't where to start with beliefs like that." So someone is divorced and left with nothing, that’s their poor decision? Someone struggles with serious mental health, that’s their poor decision? A person goes on furlough and is suddenly earning a lot less and falls behind on payments, that’s their poor decision? It’s the people that haven’t been in the same positions that can’t see it from the other point of view. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins..." It works out at 1.8p per day, 12.6p per week. As a single person who if on benefits would at most get £70 a week i think somehow i could manage that particularly if it meant potentially increasing my chances of surviving Covid. | |||
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"It's been proposed for food fortification, similar to the other vitamins that get added. It's common in other countries and I think we should do it. I agree, I don't think there are any downsides? Unfortunately it is not straight forward- - Vit D is a fat soluble vitamin unlike for example Vit C which is water soluble and flushed out with urine. Vitamin D toxicity, also called hypervitaminosis D, is a rare but potentially serious condition that occurs when you have excessive amounts of vitamin D in your body. Vitamin D toxicity is usually caused by large doses of vitamin D supplements — not by diet or sun exposure. So it needs weighing up, especially for people who already take a daily multivitamin." Far as I can see, toxic levels of Vitamin D would be taking at least three times the normal strongest dose (4000 IU). Not saying there wouldn’t be a few wallys taking too much, there probably already are, but hard to see it wouldn’t be a big net benefit in reduction of Covid severity. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... It works out at 1.8p per day, 12.6p per week. As a single person who if on benefits would at most get £70 a week i think somehow i could manage that particularly if it meant potentially increasing my chances of surviving Covid." You said it yourself, a single person. Paying for you and you only. What about a family? | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... It works out at 1.8p per day, 12.6p per week. As a single person who if on benefits would at most get £70 a week i think somehow i could manage that particularly if it meant potentially increasing my chances of surviving Covid." £70 goes a long way when you think about water rates gas electricity 20% of council tax Bill's mobile phone...yes they are needed...food cleaning costs and dare I say it...the occasional new pair of shoes or clothes. Yep that 70 quid can quite easily take another hit  | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... It works out at 1.8p per day, 12.6p per week. As a single person who if on benefits would at most get £70 a week i think somehow i could manage that particularly if it meant potentially increasing my chances of surviving Covid. You said it yourself, a single person. Paying for you and you only. What about a family?" And here we have an ugly truth that displays the connection between covid and income. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... It works out at 1.8p per day, 12.6p per week. As a single person who if on benefits would at most get £70 a week i think somehow i could manage that particularly if it meant potentially increasing my chances of surviving Covid. £70 goes a long way when you think about water rates gas electricity 20% of council tax Bill's mobile phone...yes they are needed...food cleaning costs and dare I say it...the occasional new pair of shoes or clothes. Yep that 70 quid can quite easily take another hit "So in your example i would forgo the mobile phone as its not needed. If i did need one for contact purpose i would get a basic handset for calls and texts only. I have lived through hardship, for several years living still at home with parents i was the only wage earner which also had to support a brother and sister as well as myself and parents, It was not a big wage. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... It works out at 1.8p per day, 12.6p per week. As a single person who if on benefits would at most get £70 a week i think somehow i could manage that particularly if it meant potentially increasing my chances of surviving Covid. £70 goes a long way when you think about water rates gas electricity 20% of council tax Bill's mobile phone...yes they are needed...food cleaning costs and dare I say it...the occasional new pair of shoes or clothes. Yep that 70 quid can quite easily take another hit
So in your example i would forgo the mobile phone as its not needed.
If i did need one for contact purpose i would get a basic handset for calls and texts only.
I have lived through hardship, for several years living still at home with parents i was the only wage earner which also had to support a brother and sister as well as myself and parents, It was not a big wage."Ah so your still living with mummy and daddy...explains a lot.. | |||
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" Ah so your still living with mummy and daddy...explains a lot.." Sadly they both passed away within the last two years | |||
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"Maybe the government should fund the vit d for the people on £70 benefits and let the working population pay the £3 for it themselves. If it helps people fight covid infection then it would be beneficial to the health service in the end. " The NHS has been recommending people take vitamin D in the autumn/winter for decades. | |||
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"Maybe the government should fund the vit d for the people on £70 benefits and let the working population pay the £3 for it themselves. If it helps people fight covid infection then it would be beneficial to the health service in the end. The NHS has been recommending people take vitamin D in the autumn/winter for decades." Time people listened. I’ve taken vit c and zinc for about 6 years to help my immune but started on the vit d in March after being ill for 3 months, so far so good, also put the whole family on it. | |||
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"Maybe the government should fund the vit d for the people on £70 benefits and let the working population pay the £3 for it themselves. If it helps people fight covid infection then it would be beneficial to the health service in the end. " No problem with that. It’s beneficial all round. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... Bullshit." What an arrogant comment. Disgusting how you can't comprehend how poor some people really are. Not sure whether you do comments for attention or you really do mean the comments you come out with. Either way it's pathetic. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... Bullshit. What an arrogant comment. Disgusting how you can't comprehend how poor some people really are. Not sure whether you do comments for attention or you really do mean the comments you come out with. Either way it's pathetic." Don't let him get you down. I've never seen him make a positive comment about anything. Hateful. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? It’s not so much the cost of the vitamin, I’m thinking more about it being a government campaign to raise awareness, envelopes through doors, like when they put condoms through the letterbox for the eighties AIDS campaigns." I think that would be a great idea. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... Bullshit. What an arrogant comment. Disgusting how you can't comprehend how poor some people really are. Not sure whether you do comments for attention or you really do mean the comments you come out with. Either way it's pathetic. Don't let him get you down. I've never seen him make a positive comment about anything. Hateful." | |||
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"Seeing as Vitamin D is cheap as chips, compared to the billions being spent elsewhere, is there not a case for a government distribution scheme to all households? My back of envelope calculation suggests a total cost less than £200 million for everyone in the country to have a years supply? " By it yourself the government is spending plenty right now | |||
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"Seeing as Vitamin D is cheap as chips, compared to the billions being spent elsewhere, is there not a case for a government distribution scheme to all households? My back of envelope calculation suggests a total cost less than £200 million for everyone in the country to have a years supply? By it yourself the government is spending plenty right now" I and many others have done. That’s not the point of the thread. | |||
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"Less than a pound in home bargins. What is the actual scientific evidence and the reason for vitamin d and its impact on covid. Seen so many articles about vitamins this and that over the pandemic. " Dont have exact figures but around 60 of death were lacking in vitamin D...so a no brainer for me. | |||
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"Less than a pound in home bargins. What is the actual scientific evidence and the reason for vitamin d and its impact on covid. Seen so many articles about vitamins this and that over the pandemic. Dont have exact figures but around 60 of death were lacking in vitamin D...so a no brainer for me." That was 60% NOT JUST 60 PEOPLE | |||
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"Turns out the government has listened to me, don’t call me a hero: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8925321/Millions-elderly-vulnerable-free-Vitamin-D-government.html" Hero!! 
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"Turns out the government has listened to me, don’t call me a hero: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8925321/Millions-elderly-vulnerable-free-Vitamin-D-government.html" Well done you...if nothing more then making a good prediction. Who knows Hancock might be a lurker  | |||
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"Turns out the government has listened to me, don’t call me a hero: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8925321/Millions-elderly-vulnerable-free-Vitamin-D-government.html Well done you...if nothing more then making a good prediction. Who knows Hancock might be a lurker "Although obviously remains to be seen which family member of a Tory MP gets the contract, and how much they overpay (with our money] for it. | |||
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"Holland and Barrett D3 10ug (200% of daily needed amount) 100 tablets @ £3.59 get another for 1p. So thats over 6 months supply for £3.60. There are people who cannot afford this? After fags,booze,skytv, latest iphone, biggest telly, take away food.... how can they? Comments like this make me laugh when you just throw everyone who’s currently struggling with money into the same category as the people who take the p*ss. Not everyone is the same, and when we’re currently in a pandemic where people are losing jobs or being furloughed and struggling to manage maybe they don’t have an extra £3 odd for some vitamins... Bullshit. You’ve clearly never struggled... I think Clems position is that if people are experiencing poverty it is because of their poor decisions and as such are undeserving. I wouldn't where to start with beliefs like that. So someone is divorced and left with nothing, that’s their poor decision? Someone struggles with serious mental health, that’s their poor decision? A person goes on furlough and is suddenly earning a lot less and falls behind on payments, that’s their poor decision? It’s the people that haven’t been in the same positions that can’t see it from the other point of view. " I've been in all of those positions except furlough and yes people should first and foremost take care of health and if it means vitD then vitD it should be at 3.60 for 6 months. IMHO even the furlough people did make bad decisions yes, they shouldn't bite off more than they can chew. | |||
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