FabSwingers.com forum: Schools to remain open

By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

I know that kids don’t often die from this but they can pass it to teachers or other children in their schools who can then pass it on to their family. I don’t get why schools remain open. It may have been better to ensure that schools and all teachers were all equipped with IT equipment and train them in the past six months for them to deliver compulsory and quality lessons online this winter.

I don’t think it’s fair for adults who work in schools to be more at risk than anybody else.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

The Unions want the schools shut.

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By *en_Dover79Man
over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

"I know that kids don’t often die from this but they can pass it to teachers or other children in their schools who can then pass it on to their family. I don’t get why schools remain open. It may have been better to ensure that schools and all teachers were all equipped with IT equipment and train them in the past six months for them to deliver compulsory and quality lessons online this winter.

I don’t think it’s fair for adults who work in schools to be more at risk than anybody else."

Good

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"The Unions want the schools shut. "

I’m not surprised and I think they’re right.

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By *en_Dover79Man
over a year ago

Oswaldtwistle

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"The Unions want the schools shut. "

But many union members do not. Go and read the NEU Facebook posts about it. My teaching staff do not want to cease, I know that for a fact. We are UCU affiliated.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A difficult one do we just abandon a generations education?

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

Suck it and see, no body knows

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Suck it and see, no body knows"

Nobody knows what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"A difficult one do we just abandon a generations education? "

No, we don't. The people yelling for young people to be left at sea are the adults who already have their education in the bag. I can progress in my career now without ever doing another qualification. Its more about my experience. At the start of a career, it's more about quals. We need to keep young people in education or else there will be a bunch of ages who suffer disadvantage for life. The kids currently at primary school should (hopefully) be back to normal senior school by the time they're 14+, but those aged sort of 14/15 to 21 are going to lack knowledge and quals from GCSEs, A levels, BTEC, degrees, apprenticeships etc.

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By *lamourpussyCouple
over a year ago

Warwick

I agree, we have no idea how much Covid is being transmitted by school kids as there has been no testing to find out. If we are going to lockdown let's do it properly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wow

It's not about schools

Schools have just been closed for a week .

There are so many gangs of kids on the streets during the holidays because there parents work

Teachers are not MORE at risk than another member of the public ...we are all in danger of this virus

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

I’m for keeping them open, how long should a child miss out on their education. Yes we can learn at home, read text books etc but that type of learning does not suit all children; the specialist knowledge needed to answer their various questions comes from their teachers and group discussions with peers.

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work. "

Agreed only if parents who don’t send their children to school are fined. If teachers are key workers and are made to go to school, which I understand, children should also be all be made to school. It’ll be interesting to see if it’s the case.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I see it as this.

We need to feed our bodies so supermarkets need to be kept open.

Children need to keep their minds fed so they can get an education for their future.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Shit timing from the English government

Why not time it to have corresponded with October half term at least, like we have in Wales?

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Wow

It's not about schools

Schools have just been closed for a week .

There are so many gangs of kids on the streets during the holidays because there parents work

Teachers are not MORE at risk than another member of the public ...we are all in danger of this virus "

A huge number of teachers support schools staying open. I'm one of them and my entire teaching team are 14 others who agree.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

Well yes unless the child has a medical condition which makes them vulnerable of course, but that will apply to adults too.

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Shit timing from the English government

Why not time it to have corresponded with October half term at least, like we have in Wales? "

Exactly. That’s one week wasted. But hey, one fuck up more or one fuck up less doesn’t make a huge difference.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work across 3 schools and implemented an IT audit across our pupils for devices and broadband access for virtual schooling. Out of 1200 kids we have about 100 who have no devices or broadband access. Closing schools disadvantages those 100 or so kids. That's not acceptable. It's not acceptable if it was only 1 pupil.

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By *inkyCouple1927Couple
over a year ago

Newcastle

Keep the schools open but close the Universities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree schools should be kept open but safely

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

Well yes unless the child has a medical condition which makes them vulnerable of course, but that will apply to adults too. "

Agreed. Some teachers or non teaching staff also have underlying conditions in school. I wonder what is going to be deceived for them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Keep the schools open but close the Universities

Yes I tend to agree with this. I don’t know the exact figures but I believe the cases aren’t very high in primary school whereas they are in higher education.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

Well yes unless the child has a medical condition which makes them vulnerable of course, but that will apply to adults too.

Agreed. Some teachers or non teaching staff also have underlying conditions in school. I wonder what is going to be deceived for them. "
I would think and hope that they will shield like last time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Unpaid leave?

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"I work across 3 schools and implemented an IT audit across our pupils for devices and broadband access for virtual schooling. Out of 1200 kids we have about 100 who have no devices or broadband access. Closing schools disadvantages those 100 or so kids. That's not acceptable. It's not acceptable if it was only 1 pupil. "

Do you teach or do you work in an office?

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Sorry to hear that Lorna, but I imagine this will happen across the school system and the schools will adapt to less staff.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Unpaid leave?"

Thankfully no but Ash is currently in London and I'm Southampton. I'm plotting a rescue plan as we speak.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Keep the schools open but close the Universities

Yes I tend to agree with this. I don’t know the exact figures but I believe the cases aren’t very high in primary school whereas they are in higher education. "

Unis are already almost 100% online. My son (practical course) has 1 F2F class once a fortnight only, massively socially distanced, masks etc. The only in person teaching happening is infrequent stuff in labs, medical/dental/nursing (all of which are frankly essential if we are to continue staffing the NHS) plus some other practical subjects. Humanities subjects are online only already.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Sorry to hear that Lorna, but I imagine this will happen across the school system and the schools will adapt to less staff. "

I was expecting it but 13 out of 89 staff are in the same boat.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Unpaid leave?

Thankfully no but Ash is currently in London and I'm Southampton. I'm plotting a rescue plan as we speak.

Oh no! You should have a few days! Get your skates on! X

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Keep the schools open but close the Universities

Yes I tend to agree with this. I don’t know the exact figures but I believe the cases aren’t very high in primary school whereas they are in higher education.

Ah I see. Didn’t realise that.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Unpaid leave?

Thankfully no but Ash is currently in London and I'm Southampton. I'm plotting a rescue plan as we speak.

The rumour is Thursday, so you’ve got time to get to either or location

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Unpaid leave?

Thankfully no but Ash is currently in London and I'm Southampton. I'm plotting a rescue plan as we speak.

The rumour is Thursday, so you’ve got time to get to either or location "

Looks like it’s been put back to 6pm now! Been waiting to get in the bath since 4! Bloody Boris!

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Wow

It's not about schools

Schools have just been closed for a week .

There are so many gangs of kids on the streets during the holidays because there parents work

Teachers are not MORE at risk than another member of the public ...we are all in danger of this virus "

However the rest of the public work in covid safe environments with masks and social distancing - teachers do not.

School imo should be one week on one week off so less kids and the ability for social distancing.

Teachers will die ...... the unions are starting to put action into place this evening. A strike wouldn’t surprise me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Unpaid leave?

Thankfully no but Ash is currently in London and I'm Southampton. I'm plotting a rescue plan as we speak.

The rumour is Thursday, so you’ve got time to get to either or location "

We have a plan and he is going to come here because it's safer and easier for us to isolate here.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Wow that’s great!!! I truly hope all schools follow suit. Not sure how schools will run with approx 39% off as was the figure in CV and CEV groups last time.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Wow

It's not about schools

Schools have just been closed for a week .

There are so many gangs of kids on the streets during the holidays because there parents work

Teachers are not MORE at risk than another member of the public ...we are all in danger of this virus "

I think you will find that bus drivers and supermarket shop floor staff are at a higher rake of danger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Wow that’s great!!! I truly hope all schools follow suit. Not sure how schools will run with approx 39% off as was the figure in CV and CEV groups last time. "

They did last time but then we only had key workers children.

Its going to be a struggle but I'm sure I can and will do some work from home to help out. X

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Unpaid leave?

Thankfully no but Ash is currently in London and I'm Southampton. I'm plotting a rescue plan as we speak.

The rumour is Thursday, so you’ve got time to get to either or location

We have a plan and he is going to come here because it's safer and easier for us to isolate here. "

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Keep the schools open but close the Universities

Yes I tend to agree with this. I don’t know the exact figures but I believe the cases aren’t very high in primary school whereas they are in higher education.

Ah I see. Didn’t realise that. "

The poor students were told to move to campus, then as predicted, Vivid broke out, but now they're stuck because they're not supposed to travel home but only studying online which can be done anywhere. If they're sent home now, landlords will not allow students to cancel accommodation contracts and increasingly first year halls are privately owned and it's usual for 2nd years and above to rent houses/flats privately. They're stuck over a barrel.

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By *ch WellMan
over a year ago

Scotland

I think the insistence on keeping open regardless is a big mistake. Either there's a lockdown or there isnt. The cases have steadily risen since schools and unis went back and it needs reigned in

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Wow that’s great!!! I truly hope all schools follow suit. Not sure how schools will run with approx 39% off as was the figure in CV and CEV groups last time.

They did last time but then we only had key workers children.

Its going to be a struggle but I'm sure I can and will do some work from home to help out. X"

Yes last time it was about 8% of primary kids were in so they could cope not sure how that will translate this time .... 60% capacity with 100% attendance just doesn’t work.

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By *knylonchickCouple
over a year ago

hitchin

"I agree, we have no idea how much Covid is being transmitted by school kids as there has been no testing to find out. If we are going to lockdown let's do it properly. "

It is absolutely ridiculous that the government has not allocated testing resources to schools. Keep the schools open but let’s be testing a random 10% sample from each year group bubble - then we can all be much more confident about the relative safety of keeping schools open both for the pupils and teachers and for the children’s parents....

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

I don't think it's right to close schools entirely and deny kids an education, but something clearly ain't working right now with as schools and universities appear to be hotbeds of infection.

We need a better way.

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

Schools should stay open Unis should close.

Further, if parents start getting 'antzy' about pulling their kids out of school that's fair enough .. let them! On condition, they agree to supervise and be accountable for their children's education at home . Let us be honest a lot of parents are now going to be at home again so if they withdraw their kids from school have no excuse for not acting responsibly enough about their education . If you both have to work then you can not expect to pull your kids out of school can you ?

Unis should close because young people sem to not give a damn about the pandemic! and because 18+ should be mature enough to take responsibility for home learning .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I've just had an email telling me that because I am considered vulnerable I am now on leave until further notice and I work in a school.

Wow that’s great!!! I truly hope all schools follow suit. Not sure how schools will run with approx 39% off as was the figure in CV and CEV groups last time.

They did last time but then we only had key workers children.

Its going to be a struggle but I'm sure I can and will do some work from home to help out. X

Yes last time it was about 8% of primary kids were in so they could cope not sure how that will translate this time .... 60% capacity with 100% attendance just doesn’t work. "

Theres going to be a zoom on line staff meeting early Monday morning so we will know exactly what's happening then.

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Schools should stay open Unis should close.

Unis should close because young people sem to not give a damn about the pandemic! and because 18+ should be mature enough to take responsibility for home learning . "

I completely disagree. If schools are deemed to be safe for teachers, they are safe for the kids. Schools are not Mc Donald’s restaurants. You keep them open, ok, I understand but they are open for everyone.

I bet you some parents will keep their little princes at home and demand that teachers send them work.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Cue the rest of the weekend fielding emails from panicked international students

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree, we have no idea how much Covid is being transmitted by school kids as there has been no testing to find out. If we are going to lockdown let's do it properly.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No they’ve been shut for far too long this year, my children really suffered with the lack of social interaction

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you teach or do you work in an office? "
I don't understand what difference it makes to my point with where I work.

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By *ifeandhubby400Couple
over a year ago

Arse hole of nowhere ,Scotland

If they are in School they are at least in a structured environment ,and kept in bubbles ,schools are cleaned ie touch points etc ,but no schools mean they are out in groups mixing and in some cases causing mayhem ....my opinion as i work in Education ..

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By *andyfloss2000Woman
over a year ago

ashford

Yes keep them open x

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"If they are in School they are at least in a structured environment ,and kept in bubbles ,schools are cleaned ie touch points etc ,but no schools mean they are out in groups mixing and in some cases causing mayhem ....my opinion as i work in Education .."

I assume you mean as in teens, I don't see many groups of primary kids out mixing or causing trouble

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

They are in bubbles at school but as soon as they’re out, they’re not anymore. They catch school buses with pupils from other years so that’s the end of the bubbles. They have siblings attending the same school so in a different bubble but they live under the same roof at home.

As for schools being clean, well if you think that every door handle or keyboard is cleaned as soon as somebody has finished using it, this is impossible.

I think that schools try to be as clean as possible but not virus free.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dam right

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Dam right"

Damn right what?

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

"Schools should stay open Unis should close.

Unis should close because young people sem to not give a damn about the pandemic! and because 18+ should be mature enough to take responsibility for home learning .

I bet you some parents will keep their little princes at home and demand that teachers send them work. "

Umm .. not sure if you read my post ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here"

Positive cases rose as more people were going to get tests. I work across 3 primary schools and we have had minimal positive outcomes to tests. We haven't gone untouched but we've controlled what effect it is having. Less than 10% of pupils losing any attendance during last half term

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do kids have to wear masks in school?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do kids have to wear masks in school?"

Secondary pupils do I believe, but not under 11s

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Do kids have to wear masks in school?"

Primary no

Secondary in communal areas like corridors but not in class

Teachers in primary are banned from wearing masks

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By *ango0505Woman
over a year ago

Dumfries

My daughter is doing her nursing degree at Uni. They’ve been working from home since start of term. Yes they are getting assignments to do BUT they are only getting 35 mins a week with their lecturers.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

I don’t think bubbles are working - in secondary there are 300 plus in each bubble. Primary isn’t so bad but there are no masks In primary and no social distancing - the smaller the children the more they leak too.

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Do kids have to wear masks in school?

Secondary pupils do I believe, but not under 11s"

No they don’t wear them in secondary schools unless they want to.

Not certain about how much a difference masks make to be honest. They are compulsory in France for example including in schools and cases go up and up.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

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"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

To my knowledge we didn't have any cases at our school but a few in the local area did close due to positive cases.

The increased testing was also bound to show higher case numbers too, I'm not saying it is totally down to schools that numbers have rose but they are a factor.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Do kids have to wear masks in school?"

Ours do in corridors/communal areas, optional for staff and students in the classroom. Our classrooms are socially distanced (FE).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Do kids have to wear masks in school?

Primary no

Secondary in communal areas like corridors but not in class

Teachers in primary are banned from wearing masks "

We're not banned from wearing them as I'm aware of but it was advised not to so as not to scare kids. But we have close 1 to 1 workers who have been wearing clear close fitting visors to be able to still support vulnerable pupils

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

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"Do kids have to wear masks in school?

Primary no

Secondary in communal areas like corridors but not in class

Teachers in primary are banned from wearing masks "

Primary teachers aren't banned from wearing masks... Our teachers wear them although we only see the teachers at drop off & collection so I couldn't say if they wear them in the classroom

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"Do kids have to wear masks in school?

Ours do in corridors/communal areas, optional for staff and students in the classroom. Our classrooms are socially distanced (FE)."

Same at ours... mask on from entrance until sat at desk; on again to go for lunch and removed to eat only. The kids don’t move classes, the teachers do; the exception being for science / art / PE

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By *_the_impalerMan
over a year ago

canterbury

I can see that school teachers are alot more reliable than people in a pub at keeping things clean and social distancing

I think schools should remain open for as long as possible

Hats off to the teachers and staff keeping everyone safe

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

It's right that schools should be kept open.

Teachers should carry on working like so many other key workers have to.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"Suck it and see, no body knows

Nobody knows what? "

Emmm ..

Nobody knows the effects of keeping the schools open ...

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"Do kids have to wear masks in school?

Ours do in corridors/communal areas, optional for staff and students in the classroom. Our classrooms are socially distanced (FE).

Same at ours... mask on from entrance until sat at desk; on again to go for lunch and removed to eat only. The kids don’t move classes, the teachers do; the exception being for science / art / PE"

Same. Our students now have a home room and they stay there for all lessons, teacher moves and has to stand within a yellow marked out box that maintains social distancing from the desks. They dismiss students nearest the door first etc to stop students walking in front of each other. College issued a pack of resuseble masks, wireless keyboard and SMART board pens per staff member so there's no shared teaching aids. No paper - everything done on laptops. Some lessons are online, like pastoral tutorials.

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over a year ago

"It's right that schools should be kept open.

Teachers should carry on working like so many other key workers have to."

Teachers never stopped working before! Schools didn't close!

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By *ady LickWoman
over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here"

Same.

I'd be happy with the one week in, one week off idea. My kids are at a school of 1300 pupils. Yes, they're in bubbles, yes masks are mandatory but they've had around 12 cases since going back in September. And the school has put absolutely everything in place and has done quite well re cases in other schools in the area.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

"It's right that schools should be kept open.

Teachers should carry on working like so many other key workers have to.

Teachers never stopped working before! Schools didn't close!"

Ok. Yes. I should of said then that all schools should fully stay open. Im sure you knew what I meant In my original post though.

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By *ichelle999Couple
over a year ago

leicester

I don't think a month off school will ruin a child's life it's called catch up and plenty of other ways to learn how would any child feel knowing that they have passed it on to there parents and God forbid anything happend to that parent

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over a year ago

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work. "

Absolutely this.

My office will continue to be open and my colleagues and I will be expected to come to work regardless of any lockdown.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

Absolutely this.

My office will continue to be open and my colleagues and I will be expected to come to work regardless of any lockdown.

Are you socially distanced? Do you wear masks?

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over a year ago

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

Absolutely this.

My office will continue to be open and my colleagues and I will be expected to come to work regardless of any lockdown.

Again, schools didn't close last time.

Teachers still had to go into work for key worker and vulnerable children or they taught from home!!!!

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

Absolutely this.

My office will continue to be open and my colleagues and I will be expected to come to work regardless of any lockdown.

Do you have 1500 people in a fairly small area? Are you with 30 people within 50m2?

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"It's right that schools should be kept open.

Teachers should carry on working like so many other key workers have to."

This is excruciatingly naive ... other sectors have to be covid safe. Masks/ plastic screens/ social distancing/ Staff rota to lesson the number of people. Teachers are at close proximity to 30 (or 300) children with no protection. You cannot compare if masks and social distancing were allowed then of course but they’re not.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"I don't think a month off school will ruin a child's life it's called catch up and plenty of other ways to learn how would any child feel knowing that they have passed it on to there parents and God forbid anything happend to that parent "

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

Absolutely this.

My office will continue to be open and my colleagues and I will be expected to come to work regardless of any lockdown.

Again, schools didn't close last time.

Teachers still had to go into work for key worker and vulnerable children or they taught from home!!!!"

We hear you!!!!

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

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"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

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over a year ago

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

That is actually what some of the unions are calling for.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

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over a year ago

Hi... would it be 'do able' for the kids who havent got broadband or IT equipment to go to school. The others stay at home. Just asking

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

Hi... would it be 'do able' for the kids who havent got broadband or IT equipment to go to school. The others stay at home. Just asking "

Scenario you have four kids - do you have four laptops? The IT issue is a can of worms most houses wouldn’t be able to facilitate the tech required so where do you draw the line? The government promised tech last term and that hasn’t been forthcoming.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

Absolutely this.

My office will continue to be open and my colleagues and I will be expected to come to work regardless of any lockdown.

Again, schools didn't close last time.

Teachers still had to go into work for key worker and vulnerable children or they taught from home!!!!

We hear you!!!!

Good!

If you think teachers got an easy ride last time then you're massively mistaken.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi... would it be 'do able' for the kids who havent got broadband or IT equipment to go to school. The others stay at home. Just asking "

Schools know exactly who the children are but don't have access to broadband and IT equipment and provision will be put in place.

We have 609 children and 27 without access to the Internet at home and staff where delivering work directly to them and doing telephone "lessons" and support with those children.

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By *ichelle999Couple
over a year ago

leicester

You forgot the bit where they had to try and study from home March to September, GCSEs and A levels were cancelled and uni applications turned into a farce. It's already irretrievable for many young people who won't have chance to catch up if they are to also move forward."
understand that completely but surely a future with your parent is worth a bit of sacrifice than without a parent it's reality children pass it on and it's a killer nobody wants any child to loose out on there education but we need to get this under control

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

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"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day? "

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It's right that schools should be kept open.

Teachers should carry on working like so many other key workers have to.

That’s excruciatingly naive to believe that other sectors are COVID safe.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"It's right that schools should be kept open.

Teachers should carry on working like so many other key workers have to.

That’s excruciatingly naive to believe that other sectors are COVID safe."

Then employers should be reported and fined ... two wrongs and all that - this is why we are having another lockdown

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?"

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe.

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By *ootleCouple
over a year ago

Romford, Essex

We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

There are many children (more than you may think) who are at risk, at risk of physical abuse, mental abuse, sexual abuse at risk of going hungry, at risk of failing, at risk of suicide, at risk of being neglected by the very people who should be looking after them.

So NO, schools shouldn't close, teachers may be at a slightly higher risk, but there are processes in place to make sure those risks are minimised, vulnerable teachers are not required to work in school, I (we) think the risk is worth it to keep our kids safe.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

You forgot the bit where they had to try and study from home March to September, GCSEs and A levels were cancelled and uni applications turned into a farce. It's already irretrievable for many young people who won't have chance to catch up if they are to also move forward. understand that completely but surely a future with your parent is worth a bit of sacrifice than without a parent it's reality children pass it on and it's a killer nobody wants any child to loose out on there education but we need to get this under control

The parents already have their qualifications and careers. Even if their job has to change, most adults can get away without doing any more quals. We can't write off a whole raft of young people for the future. Employers in five years time will not be making exceptions for the poor sods who couldn't finish their degree or complete their A levels. Sad but true - memories will be short for those running the economy but the impact will linger for the young people.

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over a year ago

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

Couldn’t agree with this more

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

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"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe. "

Honestly I don't think it was really safe back in September, but they opened anyway. Like I said I am on the fence as it's really tough to say what is for the best or not right now.

Are you a teacher or school staff? I'd be interested to hear your view.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe.

Honestly I don't think it was really safe back in September, but they opened anyway. Like I said I am on the fence as it's really tough to say what is for the best or not right now.

Are you a teacher or school staff? I'd be interested to hear your view. "

Teacher - primary

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

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"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

Couldn’t agree with this more

I concur, im just upset that I can't look after my pupils.

Its very frustrating.

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over a year ago

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

In my school CV and CEV teachers all in. No masks no socially distance, no staggered times and if your child self isolates no pay. What precautions have your school put in place to make you feel protected?

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

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"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe.

Honestly I don't think it was really safe back in September, but they opened anyway. Like I said I am on the fence as it's really tough to say what is for the best or not right now.

Are you a teacher or school staff? I'd be interested to hear your view.

Teacher - primary "

What do you think would be the best solution? What has your experience been since sept?

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over a year ago

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

I’m a teacher and care more about bringing a virus home to my elderly mother and being a mum to my young children than a job that totally undervalues me and a public that thinks we are lazy b*stards. "

I haven't got the clapping hands emoji but if I did then you would get 10!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

I concur with this too. X

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By *hatawasteMan
over a year ago

stafford

I think it would be good to think of this as not ' a month off' its a month of not being in School there is a difference ! Parents need to step up and make sure their kids learn during lockdown and dont sit playing games all day ..

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over a year ago

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

I’m so glad that all the doctors and nurses didn’t think like that. And I have so much respect for them because I’m not sure how I’d feel.

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over a year ago

"It's right that schools should be kept open.

Teachers should carry on working like so many other key workers have to.

That’s excruciatingly naive to believe that other sectors are COVID safe.

Then employers should be reported and fined ... two wrongs and all that - this is why we are having another lockdown "

My work has never shut and nobody has caught the virus yet.

We are so busy at work due to the pandemic that they are employing more staff yet we haven’t got the space to social distance the 2 metres.

Closing is not an option.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe.

Honestly I don't think it was really safe back in September, but they opened anyway. Like I said I am on the fence as it's really tough to say what is for the best or not right now.

Are you a teacher or school staff? I'd be interested to hear your view.

Teacher - primary

What do you think would be the best solution? What has your experience been since sept? "

Blended learning 15 per class so socially distancing is possible, masks and visors for teachers. One week on one week off with projects set for the week they are home. Teachers tested weekly clinically vulnerable staff given the option to work remotely supporting the home based children with project work.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"It's right that schools should be kept open.

Teachers should carry on working like so many other key workers have to.

That’s excruciatingly naive to believe that other sectors are COVID safe.

Then employers should be reported and fined ... two wrongs and all that - this is why we are having another lockdown

My work has never shut and nobody has caught the virus yet.

We are so busy at work due to the pandemic that they are employing more staff yet we haven’t got the space to social distance the 2 metres.

Closing is not an option. "

Then you’re playing with yours and others lives ..... this is illegal working practice

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

I’m so glad that all the doctors and nurses didn’t think like that. And I have so much respect for them because I’m not sure how I’d feel. "
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Doctors and nurses had PPE - admittedly not enough and look how many died - I wouldn’t be a doctor for all the money in the world. But I’m not a doctor I’m not trained in infection control or infectious environments I’m a teacher I’m trained to teach.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

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"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe.

Honestly I don't think it was really safe back in September, but they opened anyway. Like I said I am on the fence as it's really tough to say what is for the best or not right now.

Are you a teacher or school staff? I'd be interested to hear your view.

Teacher - primary

What do you think would be the best solution? What has your experience been since sept?

sensible. Unfortunately I don't see it going that way. But I'm not a teacher so you will know more about any likelihood of it happening.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe.

Honestly I don't think it was really safe back in September, but they opened anyway. Like I said I am on the fence as it's really tough to say what is for the best or not right now.

Are you a teacher or school staff? I'd be interested to hear your view.

Teacher - primary

What do you think would be the best solution? What has your experience been since sept?

sensible. Unfortunately I don't see it going that way. But I'm not a teacher so you will know more about any likelihood of it happening. "

It won’t happen... schools will remain open then on December 2nd infections won’t have gone down so Boris wil relent and close schools and Christmas will be locked down. All so unnecessary.

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe.

Honestly I don't think it was really safe back in September, but they opened anyway. Like I said I am on the fence as it's really tough to say what is for the best or not right now.

Are you a teacher or school staff? I'd be interested to hear your view.

Teacher - primary

What do you think would be the best solution? What has your experience been since sept?

sensible. Unfortunately I don't see it going that way. But I'm not a teacher so you will know more about any likelihood of it happening.

It won’t happen... schools will remain open then on December 2nd infections won’t have gone down so Boris wil relent and close schools and Christmas will be locked down. All so unnecessary. "

It looks that way doesn't it

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe.

Honestly I don't think it was really safe back in September, but they opened anyway. Like I said I am on the fence as it's really tough to say what is for the best or not right now.

Are you a teacher or school staff? I'd be interested to hear your view.

Teacher - primary

What do you think would be the best solution? What has your experience been since sept?

sensible. Unfortunately I don't see it going that way. But I'm not a teacher so you will know more about any likelihood of it happening.

It won’t happen... schools will remain open then on December 2nd infections won’t have gone down so Boris wil relent and close schools and Christmas will be locked down. All so unnecessary.

It looks that way doesn't it

For me absolutely schools should be open for all the reasons stated above. For the infection rate to fall they will have to close so it’s not if it’s when. I would prefer close now for four weeks (had it happened last week it would have been three as it was half term) and then businesses would not suffer as it would be four weeks and done. This will likely mean close all but schools first then when that doesn’t work close schools and all for a further two weeks.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

It won’t happen... schools will remain open then on December 2nd infections won’t have gone down so Boris wil relent and close schools and Christmas will be locked down. All so unnecessary. "

Why don’t you think numbers will reduce just because schools are open ?

As at last official figures 16% of primary schools and 45% of secondary schools had to sent one child or more home to isolate, approx 400,000 children and 5% of the total school children. This is not confirmed 5% cases just isolation numbers.

Unfortunately the way they group the she’s does not clearly give us an indication of where the cases are as to much cross mix over the schools. If they could split them differently we might get a better idea:

0-4 predominantly home / childcare / nurseries / reception

5-10 primary schools

11-16 secondary schools

17-19 colleges / sixth form

20-24 university

There are even crossovers in the above depending on when a child’s birthday falls. This might at least give a clearer picture of where any spikes are.

In our area (2 square miles) we have two secondary schools and 7 primary schools. We have had no cases in primary school and one case each in the secondary schools. The case in our school was caught by the child from the parent and no other children in the year had positive tests.

So it does miff me a little that the kids get the blame for increase in numbers.

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

It won’t happen... schools will remain open then on December 2nd infections won’t have gone down so Boris wil relent and close schools and Christmas will be locked down. All so unnecessary.

Why don’t you think numbers will reduce just because schools are open ?

0-4 predominantly home / childcare / nurseries / reception

5-10 primary schools

11-16 secondary schools

17-19 colleges / sixth form

20-24 university

There are even crossovers in the above depending on when a child’s birthday falls. This might at least give a clearer picture of where any spikes are.

So it does miff me a little that the kids get the blame for increase in numbers. "

I’ll pm you the data In photo form

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It would have been better to close schools and unis

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By *ersnickety PantsWoman
over a year ago

Club Meets Only

"Im on the fence with this, if this virus is so bad then schools should be closed, it is clear to everyone that cases have rose since they reopened.

But then kids need not just the education but also the social side of learning & being with their piers far more than adults do.

It's quite a tough one to know what to do for the best here

Same.

If they close completely I know my kids will go into meltdown. The future is bleak enough for them with out having to face it with inadequate education behind them

I've not heard the week on & off idea, I don't know if I'd support that, it's a bit too much like limbo for the kids, I think they are either there or not.

Preferably there mind, if we take every other factor out of it & look at the point from a child the benefits of being there will outweigh the possibility of closures.

I will still send mine it would be me that melts down if my youngest stays home

How about the welfare of the staff? Would you be happy coming into close contact with hundreds of children every day?

Isn't that what they have been doing since September?

Yes but infection rates are soaring ... what was safe in September is no longer safe.

Honestly I don't think it was really safe back in September, but they opened anyway. Like I said I am on the fence as it's really tough to say what is for the best or not right now.

Are you a teacher or school staff? I'd be interested to hear your view.

Teacher - primary

What do you think would be the best solution? What has your experience been since sept?

sensible. Unfortunately I don't see it going that way. But I'm not a teacher so you will know more about any likelihood of it happening.

It won’t happen... schools will remain open then on December 2nd infections won’t have gone down so Boris wil relent and close schools and Christmas will be locked down. All so unnecessary.

It looks that way doesn't it

We have had 2 weeks off for half term & i agree it would have made sense for lockdown to coincide with this. Not much about any of this seems to make much sense tho. Well it possibly does to everyone but the 'decision makers'

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

It won’t happen... schools will remain open then on December 2nd infections won’t have gone down so Boris wil relent and close schools and Christmas will be locked down. All so unnecessary.

Why don’t you think numbers will reduce just because schools are open ?

0-4 predominantly home / childcare / nurseries / reception

5-10 primary schools

11-16 secondary schools

17-19 colleges / sixth form

20-24 university

There are even crossovers in the above depending on when a child’s birthday falls. This might at least give a clearer picture of where any spikes are.

So it does miff me a little that the kids get the blame for increase in numbers.

I’ll pm you the data In photo form "

Thanks

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

Couldn’t agree with this more

I concur, im just upset that I can't look after my pupils.

Its very frustrating. "

I'm sure you could do remote support from home, Lorna! Our Welfare staff have been supporting students across the globe since March. It's actually very easy.

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By *oxic1998Woman
over a year ago

Belfast

It won’t happen... schools will remain open then on December 2nd infections won’t have gone down so Boris wil relent and close schools and Christmas will be locked down. All so unnecessary.

Why don’t you think numbers will reduce just because schools are open ?

0-4 predominantly home / childcare / nurseries / reception

5-10 primary schools

11-16 secondary schools

17-19 colleges / sixth form

20-24 university

There are even crossovers in the above depending on when a child’s birthday falls. This might at least give a clearer picture of where any spikes are.

So it does miff me a little that the kids get the blame for increase in numbers. "

Our numbers are displayed into age groups over here and I'm afraid to say that 20-39 and 40- 59 are the highest groups getting it. They definitely not school age

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By *oirinMarkusCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands and West London

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

Couldn’t agree with this more

I concur, im just upset that I can't look after my pupils.

Its very frustrating.

I'm sure you could do remote support from home, Lorna! Our Welfare staff have been supporting students across the globe since March. It's actually very easy."

Vulnerable teachers are required to work in schools, in England. And the processes in place are really difficult and are giving teachers and leaders more stress than ever felt before. This is because the Government have no idea how schools run and so constantly put out "advice" which is impossible, doesn't work, contradictory or just plain unhelpful.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

Couldn’t agree with this more

I concur, im just upset that I can't look after my pupils.

Its very frustrating.

I'm sure you could do remote support from home, Lorna! Our Welfare staff have been supporting students across the globe since March. It's actually very easy.

What's the resolution

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

It won’t happen... schools will remain open then on December 2nd infections won’t have gone down so Boris wil relent and close schools and Christmas will be locked down. All so unnecessary.

Why don’t you think numbers will reduce just because schools are open ?

0-4 predominantly home / childcare / nurseries / reception

5-10 primary schools

11-16 secondary schools

17-19 colleges / sixth form

20-24 university

There are even crossovers in the above depending on when a child’s birthday falls. This might at least give a clearer picture of where any spikes are.

So it does miff me a little that the kids get the blame for increase in numbers.

Our numbers are displayed into age groups over here and I'm afraid to say that 20-39 and 40- 59 are the highest groups getting it. They definitely not school age

This is further broken down as to be parents ages further supporting the fact that children can be asymptomatic. I read a report that broke the infections in these age groups down to ‘have school age kids in house and don’t... it was seriously skewed to households with school age kids in.

I need to find that report ...

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By *oncupiscence73Woman
over a year ago

South

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By *oirinMarkusCouple
over a year ago

West Midlands and West London

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

Couldn’t agree with this more

I concur, im just upset that I can't look after my pupils.

Its very frustrating.

I'm sure you could do remote support from home, Lorna! Our Welfare staff have been supporting students across the globe since March. It's actually very easy.

What's the resolution "

We can prioritise which children should be in school when, and how to support remote learning. Year groups could be on a rota system to minimise mixing and we need to sort out whether exams are taking place as usual or what this "coursework" might be and when it needs to be in for.

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over a year ago

Hi... would it be 'do able' for the kids who havent got broadband or IT equipment to go to school. The others stay at home. Just asking

Thanks

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By *penfire2000Couple
over a year ago

hampshire

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work. "

Except no social distancing or masks. I was caught in a corridor crush of 275 kids last week. We need some thought x

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By *penfire2000Couple
over a year ago

hampshire

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By *iker boy 69Man
over a year ago

midlands

I don’t think it’s fair for adults who work in schools to be more at risk than anybody else."

What about uni remaining open, yet according to lots of folk it was students that are the ones responsible for it running wild again

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

I don’t think it’s fair for adults who work in schools to be more at risk than anybody else.

What about uni remaining open, yet according to lots of folk it was students that are the ones responsible for it running wild again"

My earlier reply on the subject of universities:

"Unis are already almost 100% online. My son (practical course) has 1 F2F class once a fortnight only, massively socially distanced, masks etc. The only in person teaching happening is infrequent stuff in labs, medical/dental/nursing (all of which are frankly essential if we are to continue staffing the NHS) plus some other practical subjects. Humanities subjects are online only already."

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By *pursChick aka ShortieWoman
over a year ago

On a mooch

"Yes keep them open.

Teachers are key workers just like the rest of us who have to work.

Except no social distancing or masks. I was caught in a corridor crush of 275 kids last week. We need some thought x"

I think this depends entirely on how the schools have organised themselves, quite a lot have social distancing & masks in place

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think those children with very vulnerable people in their household should have the option of learning remotely. After being told by the school that there would be no risk in transmission in the school, a family member has now indeed caught it from there and now the household are having to live separately in their house in order to protect a very vulnerable severely disabled member.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"We are both in teaching and are totally committed to schools staying open and caring for the children, it's not only the children's education we have to think about.

Teachers do more than a few sums and a bit of spelling, they look after the welfare of the children in their care.

Couldn’t agree with this more

I concur, im just upset that I can't look after my pupils.

Its very frustrating.

I'm sure you could do remote support from home, Lorna! Our Welfare staff have been supporting students across the globe since March. It's actually very easy."

Thats been role but iv been today by email im now on leave until the 3ed of December.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think schools should be open, colleges and uni’s should be shut.

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By *sm81Couple
over a year ago

warwickshire

Schools need to be open, universities however have higher cases so would be best moved to online learning

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"The Unions want the schools shut. "
They should be shut

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By *OXO2018Couple
over a year ago

Norfolk

My child went through the last lockdown as I'm a key worker. He loved it.

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By *eah BabyCouple
over a year ago

Cheshire, Windermere ,Cumbria

"Schools need to be open, universities however have higher cases so would be best moved to online learning"

They will still mix though, we are on tier two so no going into anybody’s house yet the girl across the road who is home from uni as had at least 8 friends inside the house in the last 24 hours

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"The Unions want the schools shut. They should be shut"

You too.,

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By *exy7 OP Man
over a year ago

Bristol

"I think those children with very vulnerable people in their household should have the option of learning remotely. After being told by the school that there would be no risk in transmission in the school, a family member has now indeed caught it from there and now the household are having to live separately in their house in order to protect a very vulnerable severely disabled member. "

Completely impossible for schools to do this. How do you want teachers teach at school all day and then they log on for two or three hours to teach the vulnerable who are staying or those whose parents would rather keep their children at home.

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By *inky_couple2020Couple
over a year ago

North West

Let's everyone Google Hyflex learning. This may be the short term way forward

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By *ty31Man
over a year ago

NW London

"I think schools should be open, colleges and uni’s should be shut.

Kick in the balls for the uni students who are ££££ in debt in pursuit of a good career

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How it can even be called a lockdown with all education settings still open is a little challenging to believe.

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

"I think schools should be open, colleges and uni’s should be shut.

Kick in the balls for the uni students who are ££££ in debt in pursuit of a good career"

Exactly. They still have to pay full fees too but not getting the same level of education.

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By *oubleswing2019Man
over a year ago

Colchester

The virus, sentient thought it is not, is best served when afforded the opportunity to spread to as many people as possible. Especially when so many potential hosts are in a single location.

Unless said location is employing infection control measures that would make a tropical and infectious diseases hospital jealous, close it down.

2 Weeks minimum.

Monitor, test, assess, then redress.

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By *ornLordMan
over a year ago

Wiltshire and London

"The virus, sentient thought it is not, is best served when afforded the opportunity to spread to as many people as possible. Especially when so many potential hosts are in a single location.

Unless said location is employing infection control measures that would make a tropical and infectious diseases hospital jealous, close it down.

2 Weeks minimum.

Monitor, test, assess, then redress.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

They should have been shut for at least 2 / 3 weeks to stop the spread. The lockdown should have started a week ago ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There has to be a balance between safety and education for children at school

If the best medical advice believes it’s safe then we have to trust that.

Closing schools and relying on home teaching will leave so many children disadvantaged in the future

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There has to be a balance between safety and education for children at school

If the best medical advice believes it’s safe then we have to trust that.

Closing schools and relying on home teaching will leave so many children disadvantaged in the future

I dont believe any medical evidence has said it's safe.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Schools need to be open, universities however have higher cases so would be best moved to online learning"

My son is at university and has not been to the university yet.

All his lectures etc are online.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Schools need to be open, universities however have higher cases so would be best moved to online learning

My son is at university and has not been to the university yet.

All his lectures etc are online.

How is he finding the experience? And would he rather be at home or at the uni in the present circumstances?

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

I don’t have kids so for me I probably look at this slightly differently

I would say looking at the slides, keep the junior kids in school as much as possible and possibly gcse years, anyone else should stay at home. This will reduce the kids in school by three years possibly 4. Agree it is not idea but we have to slow the infection down

Going on to uni students. Thinking back to my uni days my halls of residence everyone was shagging everyone mixing between kitchens, chilling in peoples rooms. We had approx 300 people in a small building. I bet that would be like a Petri dish of covid at the moment l. That’s not to include the fact they are going to pubs and bars as well. It was ok for students to work remotely but did nobody think of this side of things. Test track and trace should have been a lot more active in these areas

Now going on to families / neighbours mixing. Watched something on bbc that three roads in Bradford are covid rife, now don’t get me wrong how does that happen if families and people in the streets are not mixing. It doesn’t. Clearly no one owned up to mixing between households

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think this is a mini lock down.

In four weeks schools will close too.

They will only miss one or two weeks of the end of their term. (Usually xmas stuff anyway for primaries).

Secondary kids will have done their exams.

Universities will have finished by then and a full, proper lock down will occur.

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By *incsladyandscotsmanCouple
over a year ago

North fife

Schools close equals economy completely closing. We need schools as eduction centres and as child care.

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By *exy_HornyCouple
over a year ago

Leigh

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By *exy_HornyCouple
over a year ago

Leigh

Schools should shut. A full curriculum should be taught live online. There is no good reason we can think of not to teach online. Streaming solutions are available across multiple devices (laptops, phones etc.) even a Raspberry Pi computer for £35 plugged into the back of the telly would suffice. Both hardware and broadband are cheap, and attendance can be confirmed by live interaction.

In the Summer term lockdown our daughter's school "gave" each child a Microsoft office license but did not include Teams. They made no attempt to provide live lessons and set little homework. Every teacher seemed to use a different system to record and distribute what little content was set, almost as if they just searched on Google to try and find software. Most of the time there were issues with accessing the content due to permission errors etc.

This was, to us, completely incompetent and unacceptable. Even now there is a variety of systems used and the teachers insist on sending work out in native Microsoft formats instead of a universal format such as pdf. Again, incompetent.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Schools should be doubling up the effort to help the children catch their education back up

Perhaps this could include increasing the each of normal school day by an hour

Or reducing the length of the school holidays

We cannot let this generation of children because of Covid have a poor education

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I think this is a mini lock down.

In four weeks schools will close too.

They will only miss one or two weeks of the end of their term. (Usually xmas stuff anyway for primaries).

Secondary kids will have done their exams.

Universities will have finished by then and a full, proper lock down will occur.

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haha "usually Xmas stuff" you make the teacher wheeling big telly in to class room and putting films like cool runnings on while they sit at there desk filling there nails or was that just my school and maybe why I'm not a lawyer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree OP. A lot of teachers are older and therefore more vulnerable. It's a scary time for them feeling exposed to the virus in such direct and more risky way.

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By *orthern StarsCouple
over a year ago

Durham

"Schools should shut. A full curriculum should be taught live online. There is no good reason we can think of not to teach online. Streaming solutions are available across multiple devices (laptops, phones etc.) even a Raspberry Pi computer for £35 plugged into the back of the telly would suffice. Both hardware and broadband are cheap, and attendance can be confirmed by live interaction.

Online doesn't work for everyone. What about people who have limited or even no broadband, families who have several children and can't afford laptops and tablets. Online learning is no where near as effective as teaching in a classroom. Schools must stay open.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For some children being out of school means they aren't safe and maybe don't eat. It's a very sad reality for some.

Therfore schools should stay open

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland

Interesting article on nature. com

Google "Why schools probably aren’t COVID hotspots"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the appropriate precautions are followed schools should stay open and teachers should step

The teachers 3:15 Le Mans car park start, should be a thing of the past and the kids should be helped more to catch up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hi... would it be 'do able' for the kids who havent got broadband or IT equipment to go to school. The others stay at home. Just asking

Schools know exactly who the children are but don't have access to broadband and IT equipment and provision will be put in place.

We have 609 children and 27 without access to the Internet at home and staff where delivering work directly to them and doing telephone "lessons" and support with those children. "

Our school sent home cromebooks and portable wifi to all children!!

They were open for SEN and keyworker children.

My problem is the bubble sizes...

My child is in a year group bubble of 120 students, they can and do interact amongst the bubble and there is no social distancing at all in that bubble.

Teachers are moving around the school coming into contact with every year group bubble..

Worrying times

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Schools to remain open - your views?