FabSwingers.com forum: Burnhams gone quiet

By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What can he say?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"What can he say?"

This, if he says why didn't the government listen to the advice from Sage on the 21st September which given the rise everywhere does show the latter were pretty spot on..

Some might think him being picky..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"What can he say?"

Or he could say, I agree with the last post on the 20A.EU1 thread..

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By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof."

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?..."

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Another humiliated left winger

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof."

I agree.

Fri 30th Oct Figures per 100k:

Oldham - 703.5

Wigan - 687.4

Salford - 610.8

Rochdale - 591.7

Bolton - 569.6

Bury - 550.8

Tameside - 553.3

Manchester - 498.3

Trafford - 444.9

Stockport - 444.8

Some of the highest numbers in the country. Every single borough is up on previous weeks. These are enormous numbers that people seem to happy to bear consequences of. Instead clap for a guy having 10 minutes of fame over other counties heeding warnings and agreeing measures when asked.

What is the point in having local leaders if they wilfully dismiss numbers of a rapidly spreading virus - seemingly having no care for the safety of their residents for the sake of what; brinkmanship? The government had already given Liverpool an agreed sum and advised there was room left after furlough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What can he say?

Or he could say, I agree with the last post on the 20A.EU1 thread..

He could

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof."

It’s been obvious to us working with Manchester’s covid patients for about 6 weeks that we where fast heading towards being in the shit. We knew it before, during and after the elongated talks about how to manage the issue and we knew we needed to shut down over a month ago.

All parties have fucked up, Burnham, Boris etc have all caused a delay which will extend the lockdown we obviously need and in turn will cost us a stack of lives too.

The one lesson we should have learned from the first peak is just how sharp the up curve is compared to the shallow down curve when it comes to infections, admissions and deaths. The few weeks of delay will have cost us months.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Another humiliated left winger"

Another confused right winger

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

All parties have fucked up, Burnham, Boris etc have all caused a delay which will extend the lockdown we obviously need and in turn will cost us a stack of lives too.

I could be wrong but I thought Burnham supported a national lockdown ?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Another humiliated left winger

Another confused right winger "

Much more polite than I..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

All parties have fucked up, Burnham, Boris etc have all caused a delay which will extend the lockdown we obviously need and in turn will cost us a stack of lives too.

I could be wrong but I thought Burnham supported a national lockdown ? "

I have a lot of time for Burnham but I think if truth be known people where pushing their political spotlight when actually we needed to shut down and negotiate at the same time, those two weeks have cost us a huge amount in admissions, it’s going to be a tough time getting Manchester back from the rates we are seeing currently.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

All parties have fucked up, Burnham, Boris etc have all caused a delay which will extend the lockdown we obviously need and in turn will cost us a stack of lives too.

I could be wrong but I thought Burnham supported a national lockdown ?

True, but let’s be honest, tier 3 lockdown was never going to sufficiently slow down the infection rate

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Another humiliated left winger"

brilliant!

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months.."

like any government would be doing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"True, but let’s be honest, tier 3 lockdown was never going to sufficiently slow down the infection rate "

Correct, one day Boris might realise that viruses don’t compromise... as painful as it is you just have to identify what it will take and commit fully to it.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It depends where you put your attention. What do you want your elected representative to do, when most powers aren't in their control?

We have not followed the expert scientific advice that we have paid for and have just missed the opportunity to close things whilst schools were in their holidays, which can be the meeting points for kids and adults.

The longer we don't do effective things to stop the virus infecting more people, the harder it then becomes to try to regain lost ground.

The numbers of people infected is doubling every 8 or 9 days, so we have doubled numbers several times over since the experts were clear that we had to stop that by a short lockdown. If you'd had 1 million people infected then, it would probably be 8 million people now. There comes a point where you will struggle to be able to contain things when you have made chaos through your many systems that help to support life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing"

That’s ok then ??

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it

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By * and M lookingCouple
over a year ago

Worcester

Isn't Burnham in Somerset?

Whoops..... wrong Burnham, but just as crap

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing"

His..

Not the governments..

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

His..

Not the governments.."

hope I dont lose any sleep worrying about that then

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

His..

Not the governments..

hope I dont lose any sleep worrying about that then"

Might help you in interpreting what us actually written..

Night..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it"

That makes it ok then?

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

His..

Not the governments..

hope I dont lose any sleep worrying about that then

Might help you in interpreting what us actually written..

Night..

*is

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it

That makes it ok then?

yes its absolutely fine

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

His..

Not the governments..

hope I dont lose any sleep worrying about that then

Might help you in interpreting what us actually written..

Night..

*is"

You got it..

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

His..

Not the governments..

hope I dont lose any sleep worrying about that then

Might help you in interpreting what us actually written..

Night..

*is

You got it..

of course

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it

That makes it ok then?

yes its absolutely fine"

To you it is, are you proud to be English /British ?

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it

That makes it ok then?

yes its absolutely fine

To you it is, are you proud to be English /British ? "

neither of those

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

I'd hazard a guess if Burnham had been a Conservative elected mayor we would not have heard a squeek out of him. His delaying tactics will have a massive impact on the long game for both the NHS and local business. His current silence speaks volumes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it

That makes it ok then?

yes its absolutely fine

To you it is, are you proud to be English /British ?

neither of those"

Do you have any integrity or honesty? Do you like being lied to, cheated, scammed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'd hazard a guess if Burnham had been a Conservative elected mayor we would not have heard a squeek out of him. His delaying tactics will have a massive impact on the long game for both the NHS and local business. His current silence speaks volumes "

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

I think had he been of that I'll the government might have told him first about what was coming rather than their friends in the print media..

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago? "

So if therenhad been a national lockdown his constituents would have been locked down and that was OK. If he had a local lockdown His constituents would have been locked down and that is not OK. I fail to see the difference. Other than playing politics with his constituents.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago? "

He wanted a national lock down weeks ago on his terms.

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it

That makes it ok then?

yes its absolutely fine

To you it is, are you proud to be English /British ?

neither of those

Do you have any integrity or honesty? Do you like being lied to, cheated, scammed

well I am on here so I must do

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

His arguments were more about the financial side, pretty sure him being an ex government minister he knows what lockdown means..

Even when tier 3 isn't and what's coming which is what he wanted is..

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

He's been fully committed to the support of his constituents and the local economy. If you are as committed as you sound and he is, I'm guessing you can fill us in on the outputs he's made. You're a fan on twitter etc? There has been some consensus in the region between various parties. Remember that the experts weren't stating that the scientific evidence needed Tiers but a short sharp lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it

That makes it ok then?

yes its absolutely fine

To you it is, are you proud to be English /British ?

neither of those

Do you have any integrity or honesty? Do you like being lied to, cheated, scammed

well I am on here so I must do"

Chin up mate, not everyone is a liar and a cheat,

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it

That makes it ok then?

yes its absolutely fine

To you it is, are you proud to be English /British ?

neither of those

Do you have any integrity or honesty? Do you like being lied to, cheated, scammed

well I am on here so I must do

Chin up mate, not everyone is a liar and a cheat, "

unless they are involved in politics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Burnham lol - interested in only one thing - himself.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Burnham lol - interested in only one thing - himself."

Possibly unlike Boris when that's a definite..

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown "

He resisted a local lock down. Where his people are locked down. But it's OK to lock his people down so long as the rest of the country is also locked down? Doesn't make any sense. Now its not great either way im just pointing out that saying we don't want a lock down because we want more money and then saying but it will be acceptable if everyone to be locked down is odd.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I see there's a YouTube channel, amongst other outputs from the Manchester Council -

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Q-EtPvev8

Yesterday's output, from the 'silent'

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Burnham lol - interested in only one thing - himself."

He should be a Hollywood A lister. He's been fantastic for the people

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Burnham lol - interested in only one thing - himself."

Let me guess, you voted for Boris and Brexit

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

He was and is trying to do what's best for his electorate, the government have done the same juggling..

There were lies told by government spin doctors about the number of beds taken up which a real doctor who is the head of covid management for Manchester had to put right

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

He wanted a national lockdown where every person in England will be treated the same eg furlough and other financial assistance the government was offering. Why should one part of the country be treated differently to another?

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By *orthern PowerhouseMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

Well that;s a lie get your facts right he wanted more money that was his reason for refusing Tier 3 he was offered the same as other areas proportionality and wanted more and got 5 million more he just wanted even more than that.

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

brace brace brace!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

Can you refrain from messaging or quoting me on here, I blocked you for a reason,

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"has scouse lionel been banned?

he must be because there is no way he could be keeping his gob shut!

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By *orthern PowerhouseMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

Can you refrain from messaging or quoting me on here, I blocked you for a reason, "

Read the mods on this.

So why the lies about what Andy wanted surely you can look it up and post the truth though it may pain you.

Andy didn't want equality he wanted more thats the facts.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Every time there is a Burnham thread, there is nonsense spamming the thread more than any others, to have it reach max and subsequently close it.

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By *orthern PowerhouseMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

"Every time there is a Burnham thread, there is nonsense spamming the thread more than any others, to have it reach max and subsequently close it.

He is a loose cannon people like to talk about a loose cannon.

But said that you are right.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

Can you refrain from messaging or quoting me on here, I blocked you for a reason,

Read the mods on this.

So why the lies about what Andy wanted surely you can look it up and post the truth though it may pain you.

Andy didn't want equality he wanted more thats the facts. "

I have asked you to refrain from messaging on here, I have blocked you for a good reason

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It makes him look pretty stupid ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It makes him look pretty stupid ..."

What does? The vast majority of people in Manchester support him, so he is unlikely to care what the rest of the country think .

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Another joyous thread

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By *orthern PowerhouseMan
over a year ago

Chesterfield

"It makes him look pretty stupid ...

What does? The vast majority of people in Manchester support him, so he is unlikely to care what the rest of the country think .

They don't get your facts right to get the majority someone has to get over 50% of the voters he didn't even come close fabricating facts do nor make them true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It makes him look pretty stupid ...

What does? The vast majority of people in Manchester support him, so he is unlikely to care what the rest of the country think .

I think the last couple of days reality has set in and the vast majority in Manchester think he has acted irresponsibly and now looks v stupid

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It makes him look pretty stupid ...

What does? The vast majority of people in Manchester support him, so he is unlikely to care what the rest of the country think .

They don't get your facts right to get the majority someone has to get over 50% of the voters he didn't even come close fabricating facts do nor make them true. "

Echo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give me Andy and Ed over fucking Tory posh halfwits Gove and Johnson any day. Much easier on the eye and brain.

And as for Rishi, do a quick google search for the pics of him before his makeover, lol.

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

"Give me Andy and Ed over fucking Tory posh halfwits Gove and Johnson any day. Much easier on the eye and brain.

And as for Rishi, do a quick google search for the pics of him before his makeover, lol.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"It makes him look pretty stupid ..."

Some projection

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over a year ago

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By *0shadesOfFilthMan
over a year ago

nearby

Good on Burnham for speaking up for poor neighbourhoods

Sunak could have found the money from his offshore blind trust where his millions are hiding tax free

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By *armandwet50Couple
over a year ago

Far far away

"Good on Burnham for speaking up for poor neighbourhoods

Sunak could have found the money from his offshore blind trust where his millions are hiding tax free "

Why should Sunak give his money to the poor?

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By *urekamanfor2Man
over a year ago

Shoreham

"Good on Burnham for speaking up for poor neighbourhoods

Sunak could have found the money from his offshore blind trust where his millions are hiding tax free "

Appreciated the folks up north are well up for receiving handouts over the years however I assumed better informed? It doesn't come out of the chancellor's coffers

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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago

harrow

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

I agree.

Fri 30th Oct Figures per 100k:

Oldham - 703.5

Wigan - 687.4

Salford - 610.8

Rochdale - 591.7

Bolton - 569.6

Bury - 550.8

Tameside - 553.3

Manchester - 498.3

Trafford - 444.9

Stockport - 444.8

Clearly local lockdown and people in those areas have disregarded the rules set out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Seriously though, credit where credit is due, the achievement of the the right-wing ideologues to get the people of the UK to vote against their own best interests and the interests of their children, bloody amazing stuff x oh well, let's all pootle off to the pub and bang on against those horrible immigrants again eh?

Oh wait, no jobs and no pubs open - bloody immigrants ...

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By *urekamanfor2Man
over a year ago

Shoreham

"Seriously though, credit where credit is due, the achievement of the the right-wing ideologues to get the people of the UK to vote against their own best interests and the interests of their children, bloody amazing stuff x oh well, let's all pootle off to the pub and bang on against those horrible immigrants again eh?

Oh wait, no jobs and no pubs open - bloody immigrants ..."

Thanks to Covidiots who are not following the rules making it far worse for us all !

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"Good on Burnham for speaking up for poor neighbourhoods

Sunak could have found the money from his offshore blind trust where his millions are hiding tax free "

You have proof that he's evading tax?

You do realise that a blind trust is a necessary instrument to avoid conflict of interests?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good on Burnham for speaking up for poor neighbourhoods

Sunak could have found the money from his offshore blind trust where his millions are hiding tax free

You have proof that he's evading tax?

You do realise that a blind trust is a necessary instrument to avoid conflict of interests? "

He is a financial advisor in the evenings though it conflicts with his morning job as a brain surgeon and afternoon one in astrophysics.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

All parties have fucked up, Burnham, Boris etc have all caused a delay which will extend the lockdown we obviously need and in turn will cost us a stack of lives too.

I could be wrong but I thought Burnham supported a national lockdown ?

Good point there I really hope pop le don't die because of an ego.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

Can you refrain from messaging or quoting me on here, I blocked you for a reason,

Read the mods on this.

So why the lies about what Andy wanted surely you can look it up and post the truth though it may pain you.

Andy didn't want equality he wanted more thats the facts. "

As explained when you last asked about this, quoting someone or answering them on a forum is fine even if you are blocked. However if someone asks you not to do it then you should stop please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

Can you refrain from messaging or quoting me on here, I blocked you for a reason,

Read the mods on this.

So why the lies about what Andy wanted surely you can look it up and post the truth though it may pain you.

Andy didn't want equality he wanted more thats the facts.

As explained when you last asked about this, quoting someone or answering them on a forum is fine even if you are blocked. However if someone asks you not to do it then you should stop please"

This is getting confusing now reading this are you saying if I tell someone that I don't want them quoting what I have said then they can't? Is this a rule? Where in the rules is this?

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

This is getting confusing now reading this are you saying if I tell someone that I don't want them quoting what I have said then they can't? Is this a rule? Where in the rules is this?

https://www.fabswingers.com/content/forum-rules

Ok if someone has you blocked then you cannot ask them to unblock/ ask them why you are blocked/ discuss that block on the forum.

If a person is blocked by you or they have blocked you, you can still quote their posts/ answer their posts and vice versa as sometimes we wouldn't know who had blocked us anyway

What you can't do is constantly attack others or cause mayhem to someone who doesn't want to converse with you at all as it is disrupting for the forum so yes, that would be against forum rules

Back to the OP please

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

As explained when you last asked about this, quoting someone or answering them on a forum is fine even if you are blocked. However if someone asks you not to do it then you should stop please"

Ps ignore each other please from now on

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Again....back to the OP please, please don't goad mods into banning you as they will

If you can't understand my post ask someone to explain it to you

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By *otSoNewAnymoreMan
over a year ago

North East

"Good on Burnham for speaking up for poor neighbourhoods

Sunak could have found the money from his offshore blind trust where his millions are hiding tax free

Why should Sunak give his money to the poor?"

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

All parties have fucked up, Burnham, Boris etc have all caused a delay which will extend the lockdown we obviously need and in turn will cost us a stack of lives too.

I could be wrong but I thought Burnham supported a national lockdown ?

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By *elly babesCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Burnham wanted full circuit break back in September with full financial support. Not much more to say on the matter

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By *eneral HysteriaMan
over a year ago

Newcastle

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?...

On the fiddle

In the bar in parliament supping subsidised plonk

Counting how much his investments have made this last 8 months..

like any government would be doing

That’s ok then ??

it's the way of the world, nothing u can do about it

That makes it ok then?

yes its absolutely fine

To you it is, are you proud to be English /British ?

neither of those

Do you have any integrity or honesty? Do you like being lied to, cheated, scammed

well I am on here so I must do

Chin up mate, not everyone is a liar and a cheat,

unless they are involved in politics "

You guys would do well to listen to a Freakonomics podcast titled 'Americas Hidden Duopoly' and you'll be able to see how the Tories pretend they're running the country when in fact they're running a business called The Conservative Party.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By *lay 4 uMan
over a year ago

bolton

Are employed by Burnham the which way is the wind blowing . And another thing apart from yourself I've yet to hear anyone say anything good about him at best it's that prick . One last thing who voted him into office not met anyone yet who voted for him . parasite on Manchester rate payers .as I've said before even the Labour party didn't want him. So we get stuck with him so he can play top dog .

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

I doubt it , he wanted a national lockdown , why wasn’t one imposed 2 weeks ago?

I don’t understand what you mean? He wanted a national lockdown not a local tier 3 lockdown, it looks like tier 3 doesn’t work and we are going into a national lockdown

Because many areas had infections rates a tenth or less of GM why should those areas suffer when there was a fraction of infections.

France and germany have higher numbers of infections than us, from far less testing than we are doing,france far more cases they introduced local restrictions, now they have both gone for national restrictions, yet many in this country are still blaming everything on the government.

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By *om girlCouple (FF)
over a year ago

South Yorkshire

Just shows how stupid people who put this post up

Andy was asking for more money and help for people that was going to struggle

And let’s not get that mixed up with numbers

And what for your advice they been in lockdown month before and numbers was still meant to be going up

What people need do is get true figure on Hospital and death due to covid with no under lie conditions

And why isn’t Boris anywhere to be seen on giving public daily briefings

The government messed it all up and people try blaming Andy coz he wants who he represents a better deal

And last thing unless everyone gets tested and no one ever goes out again the virus is here to stay even with some vaccine

Flu a virus and usually kills thousands every year

Same family just stronger so nothing will change

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By *argaret James200TV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Or have the media moved onto someone else?

And where's Boris?

And where's Hancock?

And where's Rishi?..."

RISHI's in the med I think, we went there on holiday a few years back when the the sky was full of planes, acctually I may be thinking of the Blitz, we all had to stay indoors then too.

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By *argaret James200TV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Another humiliated left winger

Another confused right winger "

Did I mention I live in the Middle lands.

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By *argaret James200TV/TS
over a year ago

Birmingham

"Just shows how stupid people who put this post up

Andy was asking for more money and help for people that was going to struggle

And let’s not get that mixed up with numbers

And what for your advice they been in lockdown month before and numbers was still meant to be going up

What people need do is get true figure on Hospital and death due to covid with no under lie conditions

And why isn’t Boris anywhere to be seen on giving public daily briefings

The government messed it all up and people try blaming Andy coz he wants who he represents a better deal

And last thing unless everyone gets tested and no one ever goes out again the virus is here to stay even with some vaccine

Flu a virus and usually kills thousands every year

Same family just stronger so nothing will change "

Sooooooooo any chance of a threesome before we all die then, just a thought !!!.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof."

Looks like he was right though? The government's now done as he said with a national lockdown and a furlough scheme paying what he demanded. Everyone could see this coming. It's a shame the government didn't act on the evidence back in the summer.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Burnham wanted full circuit break back in September with full financial support. Not much more to say on the matter "

I don't remember him saying anything about a circuit break so had a google. Scrolling back a good few pages I Sept came up. This is from the 30th Sept, so quite late in Sept. Half way down - he was not in favour of a local circuit break (tiers), though could see the case for a national circuit break. He wanted household transmission more a focus, i.e track and trace?

Seeing the case for and wanting a circuit break are two totally different things.

https://aboutmanchester.co.uk/we-are-facing-our-most-difficult-winter-but-we-are-woefully-prepared-for-it-says-burnham/

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

He was right in what way? He wanted more money before he was going to consider locking down - he was making a stand for the entire country!

The nation could see it coming when cases were at 200 per 100k, which was good enough for Leicester to go into measures, simply Burnham nor residents couldn't.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

He was right in what way? He wanted more money before he was going to consider locking down - he was making a stand for the entire country!

The nation could see it coming when cases were at 200 per 100k, which was good enough for Leicester to go into measures, simply Burnham nor residents couldn't. "

Needing a national lockdown. Something politicians, scientists and many others have been saying for weeks. He was one of many who were right as we now look at the projections and face at least four weeks of lockdown rather than two to deal with this problem.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Its amazing how so many people are concerned about the residents of Manchester, whilst living no where near the area.

Nothing all to do with the fact that he stood up to that clown

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Its amazing how so many people are concerned about the residents of Manchester, whilst living no where near the area.

Nothing all to do with the fact that he stood up to that clown

And followed the evidence

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its amazing how so many people are concerned about the residents of Manchester, whilst living no where near the area.

Nothing all to do with the fact that he stood up to that clown

And followed the evidence "
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Yes. And let's not forget he's not some ignorant mayor, he was a Secretary of State for Health so has some idea of what he's talking about.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Its amazing how so many people are concerned about the residents of Manchester, whilst living no where near the area.

Nothing all to do with the fact that he stood up to that clown

Yeah amazing they didn't want to catch it or had concern they might be a National lockdown and their business might be shut. Amazing that.

Other Mayors or Councils went into lockdown agreeing sums without issue straight after Manchester. Lancashire, Yorkshire, Humberside, Birmingham, Oxford. He stood up to the clown whilst increasing the viral load on residents and as people could travel through work increased risk on neighbouring Counties. Clown.

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By *ive Bar Beauty QueenWoman
over a year ago

Stoke

"Its amazing how so many people are concerned about the residents of Manchester, whilst living no where near the area.

Nothing all to do with the fact that he stood up to that clown

Yeah amazing they didn't want to catch it or had concern they might be a National lockdown and their business might be shut. Amazing that.

Well some can negotiate others just rant and scream at the camera he thinks he is Rambo

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

He was right in what way? He wanted more money before he was going to consider locking down - he was making a stand for the entire country!

The nation could see it coming when cases were at 200 per 100k, which was good enough for Leicester to go into measures, simply Burnham nor residents couldn't.

The link from aboutmanchester above is Manchester's information hub. It states 'he could see the case for a national lockdown', not that he wanted one, he was more interested in track and trace. Back in early Sept cases were at 200 then rose to 5/600. If he didn't want a lockdown or see the consequence of rising numbers on the Nations health, (putting money first), then he's no saint in this.

If he would have acted earlier case numbers could have been lessened.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Its amazing how so many people are concerned about the residents of Manchester, whilst living no where near the area.

Nothing all to do with the fact that he stood up to that clown

Yeah amazing they didn't want to catch it or had concern they might be a National lockdown and their business might be shut. Amazing that.

What has andy Burnham got to do with a national lockdown?

Thev were advised to do a national lockdown 2 weeks abo and boris chose to ignore it.

Lancashire were offered more money than Manchester and they are also under conservative control.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

He was right in what way? He wanted more money before he was going to consider locking down - he was making a stand for the entire country!

The nation could see it coming when cases were at 200 per 100k, which was good enough for Leicester to go into measures, simply Burnham nor residents couldn't.

If he would have acted earlier case numbers could have been lessened."

Yep its not like the gmnt have ever put money 1st

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Its amazing how so many people are concerned about the residents of Manchester, whilst living no where near the area.

Nothing all to do with the fact that he stood up to that clown

Yeah amazing they didn't want to catch it or had concern they might be a National lockdown and their business might be shut. Amazing that.

Well some can negotiate others just rant and scream at the camera he thinks he is Rambo

His eyebrows do have that mossy look about them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Burnham lol - interested in only one thing - himself.

Let me guess, you voted for Boris and Brexit

you guessed wrong!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It makes him look pretty stupid ...

What does? The vast majority of people in Manchester support him, so he is unlikely to care what the rest of the country think .

Where do you get your figures from? The vast majority my arse. Anyway, you're in the hills of Glossop so why you so bothered about what goes on in Manchester?

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By *hrobberMan
over a year ago

North West

Why be interested in Burnham when living down south . Makes you think

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

"True, but let’s be honest, tier 3 lockdown was never going to sufficiently slow down the infection rate

Correct, one day Boris might realise that viruses don’t compromise... as painful as it is you just have to identify what it will take and commit fully to it. "

So how much does every lost life cost in financial terms while more time and effort was put into getting a few more million off the government rather than doing the right thing straight off?

Two weeks of news reports with him haggling over how much they should get.

These were like the actions of a union leader trying to get a fair wage for a fair days work!

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By *om girlCouple (FF)
over a year ago

South Yorkshire

Greater Manchester was in lockdown for month before we all went into second lockdown and was rising

Andy wanted a better deal for Manchester and got a betterdal for whole of country

So if you had uour own business and was losing your house car busimess and everything you worked for you may not be so ignorant

His a hero and everywhere else thats been on tier 3 rates still rising coz nothing to do with andy but usrless government

So please address boris who it behind the failings

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Burnham and his champions have done the country and probably Labour a great favour. If there was ever going to be a North South divide for future investment, he cemented it. Who would ever invest in people that are thick as fuck.

He put a begging before his constituents health. Numbers are through the roof because people were ignoring guidance weeks ago of 600/100k now 700/100k in Oldham. An increasing rate in September of 12000 cases per day was not seen as a problem.

The foresight was shameful given anything this year has taught.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

^ a begging bowl out.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Burnham and his champions have done the country and probably Labour a great favour. If there was ever going to be a North South divide for future investment, he cemented it. Who would ever invest in people that are thick as fuck.

The foresight was shameful given anything this year has taught."

He is a hero, and will easily win the next mayoral election,

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

The foresight was shameful given anything this year has taught."

Burnham to blame for a north south divide that has been in existence for the last 40 odd years

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire

The foresight was shameful given anything this year has taught.

Burnham to blame for a north south divide that has been in existence for the last 40 odd years "

This..

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Disagree

The bloke had valid reason for digging in, the financial support for Manchester’s businesses was not enough in comparison to other areas of the country. Red or Blue, the bloke was doing his job, fighting for his city. A city that he will still represent after this shit-storm has ended, which will be left with more unemployment, poverty and crime than it already has.

Take a trip to Manchester, have a walk around the not so nicer areas and you’ll see it first hand.

Burnham is not running the country, he has no authority at government level. All he did was stand up for his city and make the Government engage in meaningful discussions rather than bending over.

Believe it or not, there is a lot more to this than Covid statistics for the people in power and those who represent us. Covid will be under control in the future, but the devastation it leaves will take years to recover from.

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By *utterflyandArtificeCouple
over a year ago

Trowbridge

"Another humiliated left winger

Another confused right winger "

Crap football team then!

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By *ensual 2Couple
over a year ago

Blackpool

"Disagree

Take a trip to Manchester, have a walk around the not so nicer areas and you’ll see it first hand.

Burnham is not running the country, he has no authority at government level. All he did was stand up for his city and make the Government engage in meaningful discussions rather than bending over.

"
Totally agree.....AB has spoken up for his local people and shown some balls showing he really cares ....unlike many career politicians

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By *ackformore100 OP Man
over a year ago

Tin town

"Disagree

Take a trip to Manchester, have a walk around the not so nicer areas and you’ll see it first hand.

Burnham is not running the country, he has no authority at government level. All he did was stand up for his city and make the Government engage in meaningful discussions rather than bending over.

Don't necessarily disagree with that. And he may be an excellent mayor.. I don't know enough. But I think he chose the wrong battle ground and people will have been infected, some hospitalised and some died as a consequence of the delays. He shares the consequences of that.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Disagree

Take a trip to Manchester, have a walk around the not so nicer areas and you’ll see it first hand.

Burnham is not running the country, he has no authority at government level. All he did was stand up for his city and make the Government engage in meaningful discussions rather than bending over.

People don't like it when someone stands up to that clueless buffoon.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Disagree

Take a trip to Manchester, have a walk around the not so nicer areas and you’ll see it first hand.

Burnham is not running the country, he has no authority at government level. All he did was stand up for his city and make the Government engage in meaningful discussions rather than bending over.

Totally agree.....AB has spoken up for his local people and shown some balls showing he really cares ....unlike many career politicians

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By *utterflyandArtificeCouple
over a year ago

Trowbridge

Are they not all snakes? It's a bit disappointing to have to side with the least shit of a bad bunch.

Liabour, Cuntservative or Limp Dib, they are all bollocks. Never trust a single one.

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By *llabouttheladyMan
over a year ago

Wakefield

Moving Manchester to Tier 3 a few days earlier wouldn’t have made much difference, the virus was already running riot. It still is, and will continue to whilst ever schools, colleges and universities are open.

It’s not a coincidence that Covid rates shot up shortly after education settings opened again.

Even Prof Neil Ferguson, the pinnacle of Covid knowledge has said whilst ever education settings are open we may not get the virus under control like we did in the spring.

Burnhams few days of negotiating the move from Tier 2 to Tier 3 will have had little impact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Another humiliated left winger

Another confused right winger "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Burnham to blame for a north south divide that has been in existence for the last 40 odd years "

A lot, lot longer than that - honestly. It goes back all the way to Norman times and the "harrying of the North". Won't bore you with detail but the north was almost burnt to the ground and cannibalism was rife - yes seriously. Set the north so far back, that most of it was a wilderness for a very long time afterwards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh - and a true northerner here who thinks Burnham is a complete kunt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Oh - and a true northerner here who thinks Burnham is a complete kunt "

Why? That seems very black and white. Just curious.

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By *andare63Man
over a year ago

oldham

"Oh - and a true northerner here who thinks Burnham is a complete kunt "

totally

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Should be labour leader

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof."

Meanwhile a few weeks later, Trafford part of greater Manchester, it's R rate is lower than Westminster. Strange that Westminster is in tier 2 while Trafford is in tier 3.

Could it be that Westminster is punishing Manchester? I know Londoners think the world revolves around them and no where else is important. But Manchester is centred bang in the middle of England. It has a power house, life here is vibrant, housing is exploding with growth, money and investment is pouring into Manchester and to be honest, Manchester would make a great and better capital of the UK..

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"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Meanwhile a few weeks later, Trafford part of greater Manchester, it's R rate is lower than Westminster. Strange that Westminster is in tier 2 while Trafford is in tier 3.

Are you talking about the same Manchester as I see? It would make a great capital? You can't even can get any public transport after around midnight - £45 for a taxi to Oldham! It's like a village compared to London. City of Manchester itself is not actually that big at all - in and out in 10 mins. There are many big towns around it - Wigan, Bolton, Oldham, Stockport etc. which are great towns in their own right and don't consider themselves part of Manchester at all - hence thinking Burnham is a twat - because he lumps us all together as mancs - we definitelty are not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Should be labour leader"

Agree - will guarantee Labour get annihilated again in a GE like they did under that communist who was in charge.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Now the infection rates for GM area are out of control and going through the roof.

Meanwhile a few weeks later, Trafford part of greater Manchester, it's R rate is lower than Westminster. Strange that Westminster is in tier 2 while Trafford is in tier 3.

The mayor trying to improve the profile of the city that he represents.

Yeah what an absolute #@@@

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By *moothCriminal_xMan
over a year ago

Redditch

Not half as quiet as Liverpools mayor

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Not half as quiet as Liverpools mayor"

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Not half as quiet as Liverpools mayor"

True dat.

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By *wisted999Man
over a year ago

North Bucks

"Should be labour leader

Agree - will guarantee Labour get annihilated again in a GE like they did under that communist who was in charge."

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Should be labour leader

Agree - will guarantee Labour get annihilated again in a GE like they did under that communist who was in charge."

Yeah I'm sure stockport is high on the list of tory priorities. So fingers crossed

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

You'd think as Mayor you'd want your hospitals first on the list for vaccine, you'd be organising logistics, setting plans for hospitals/hubs/Dr's to cope with influx of patients, next stage plans for the months ahead. He seems far too quiet to say we're at turning point in the pandemic.

He might want to leave it up to the Government so he has someone to blame.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"You'd think as Mayor you'd want your hospitals first on the list for vaccine, you'd be organising logistics, setting plans for hospitals/hubs/Dr's to cope with influx of patients, next stage plans for the months ahead. He seems far too quiet to say we're at turning point in the pandemic.

He might want to leave it up to the Government so he has someone to blame."

He uses his influence but the vaccines rollouts are being managed by central government. He seems very happy to to improve things and accept blame, unlike many of the others.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

He might want to leave it up to the Government so he has someone to blame."

That's probally something to do with the fact that he isnt running the pandemic.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

He might want to leave it up to the Government so he has someone to blame.

He uses his influence but the vaccines rollouts are being managed by central government. He seems very happy to to improve things and accept blame, unlike many of the others. "

He's a Mayor, with devolved powers over health, finance, transport, education, housing, Police, construction and so on - he budgetary oversights to all. The rollout will no doubt be centralised due to scarcity but there is nothing being said or promoted. To say he put on such a stage show 2 months ago, he's now happy to leave it to Westminster? The authorities he should be making arrangements with re. planning are a non event.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

He might want to leave it up to the Government so he has someone to blame.

That's probally something to do with the fact that he isnt running the pandemic."

He's running what?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

He might want to leave it up to the Government so he has someone to blame.

That's probally something to do with the fact that he isnt running the pandemic.

He's running what? "

He is the mayor of greater Manchester

He not in charge of managing a national pandemic.

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over a year ago

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

Burnham should be held to task for his actions in delaying the lockdown while he tried to get more money..

His actions have potentially and unnecessarily cost people's lives.

Conversely, the people of greater Manchester should have realised that tier 3 restrictions were necessary and acted with more care than they did leading up to the tier change.

The same can be said across most of the country, it seems that people's desire to try and get back to their old way of live has vastly outweighed their concerns about catching the virus.

We have seen massive rises in certain areas, one of which I live in. It's no surprise really when you see the number of people not wearing masks, not using the sanitiser in shops and generally not giving a rats arse about social distancing and observing others personal space.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Burnham should be held to task for his actions in delaying the lockdown while he tried to get more money..

His actions have potentially and unnecessarily cost people's lives.

Conversely, the people of greater Manchester should have realised that tier 3 restrictions were necessary and acted with more care than they did leading up to the tier change.

The same can be said across most of the country, it seems that people's desire to try and get back to their old way of live has vastly outweighed their concerns about catching the virus.

Are you going to hold to task all the tories mps who have rebelled against boris's lockdown plans?

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By *orwegian BlueMan
over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

"Burnham should be held to task for his actions in delaying the lockdown while he tried to get more money..

His actions have potentially and unnecessarily cost people's lives.

Conversely, the people of greater Manchester should have realised that tier 3 restrictions were necessary and acted with more care than they did leading up to the tier change.

The same can be said across most of the country, it seems that people's desire to try and get back to their old way of live has vastly outweighed their concerns about catching the virus.

Are you going to hold to task all the tories mps who have rebelled against boris's lockdown plans?

They did not actively do so with the sole aim of financial gain.

Nor has their vote delayed the lockdown plans.

Burnham delayed the tier change for one purpose only, to negotiate more money.

His actions were deliberate and unnecessary.

He could have just as easily implemented the tier change and discussed funding after but instead he held the government to ransom with the health and lives of the people of Manchester.

Listening to him on the news at the time, he sounded no different to the RMT union leader trying to get an even bigger payrise for the union members by threatening strikes.

It was disgusting and obscene that in a time when the whole country should be pulling together to fight the virus, he was arguing over a few million quid so he can later turn to his constituents and say "look what I fought to get you while everyone else was rolling over and playing the Conservative government game"

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Burnham should be held to task for his actions in delaying the lockdown while he tried to get more money..

His actions have potentially and unnecessarily cost people's lives.

Conversely, the people of greater Manchester should have realised that tier 3 restrictions were necessary and acted with more care than they did leading up to the tier change.

The same can be said across most of the country, it seems that people's desire to try and get back to their old way of live has vastly outweighed their concerns about catching the virus.

Are you going to hold to task all the tories mps who have rebelled against boris's lockdown plans?

They did not actively do so with the sole aim of financial gain.

Nor has their vote delayed the lockdown plans.

Burnham delayed the tier change for one purpose only, to negotiate more money.

His actions were deliberate and unnecessary.

He could have just as easily implemented the tier change and discussed funding after but instead he held the government to ransom with the health and lives of the people of Manchester.

Listening to him on the news at the time, he sounded no different to the RMT union leader trying to get an even bigger payrise for the union members by threatening strikes.

So he wanted the same money that other parts of the country were getting ?Money that would keep afloat business that would go of business and save jobs?

What a disgrace?

When you say all pulling together presumably you mean the e mail that the gmnt sent round looking for investors who could make financial gains during the crises?

Or perhaps you mean the millions of pounds which gome gone to companies with links to senior gmnt ministers?

Or perhaps you mean the number of millionaires you have seen their fortunes rocket during the crises including our loveable Jacob reece mogg?

That sort of pulling together?

Still I agree..let's Lambast people who are fighting tooth or nail to get a minuscule pay rise to survive on.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Burnham should be held to task for his actions in delaying the lockdown while he tried to get more money..

His actions have potentially and unnecessarily cost people's lives.

Conversely, the people of greater Manchester should have realised that tier 3 restrictions were necessary and acted with more care than they did leading up to the tier change.

The same can be said across most of the country, it seems that people's desire to try and get back to their old way of live has vastly outweighed their concerns about catching the virus.

Are you going to hold to task all the tories mps who have rebelled against boris's lockdown plans?

They did not actively do so with the sole aim of financial gain.

Nor has their vote delayed the lockdown plans.

Burnham delayed the tier change for one purpose only, to negotiate more money.

His actions were deliberate and unnecessary.

He could have just as easily implemented the tier change and discussed funding after but instead he held the government to ransom with the health and lives of the people of Manchester.

Listening to him on the news at the time, he sounded no different to the RMT union leader trying to get an even bigger payrise for the union members by threatening strikes.

So he wanted the same money that other parts of the country were getting ?Money that would keep afloat business that would go of business and save jobs?

What a disgrace?

When you say all pulling together presumably you mean the e mail that the gmnt sent round looking for investors who could make financial gains during the crises?

Or perhaps you mean the millions of pounds which gome gone to companies with links to senior gmnt ministers?

Or perhaps you mean the number of millionaires you have seen their fortunes rocket during the crises including our loveable Jacob reece mogg?

That sort of pulling together?

Still I agree..let's Lambast people who are fighting tooth or nail to get a minuscule pay rise to survive on."

Usually spouted by those with limited abilities to come close to what Burnham has achieved.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The mayor trying to improve the profile of the city that he represents.

Yeah what an absolute #@@@"

Lol - in view of what's going on at the moment with Liverpool's Mayor (where you are from) - it might spell the end of the whole ridiculous idea of Mayors for tinpot towns/cities

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

... and now Greater Manchester Police castigated (yet again) by HMIC for their continued incompetence and general failures around crime recording and their failure to investigate crimes properly. Erm... guess what.. under a left wing Mayor you'll always find plenty of police officers at Gay Pride and the like - but try and get one who can or will investigate crime when you need one. Laughable. Burnham is a joke.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"... and now Greater Manchester Police castigated (yet again) by HMIC for their continued incompetence and general failures around crime recording and their failure to investigate crimes properly. Erm... guess what.. under a left wing Mayor you'll always find plenty of police officers at Gay Pride and the like - but try and get one who can or will investigate crime when you need one. Laughable. Burnham is a joke."

Ha ha

So let's get this right.

The mayor is responsible for handling the national pandemic aswell as how the police handle crime?

Anything else?

A bird shat on my car today..

Fucking left wing mayors!

And he is actually making strides to improve relationship between the police and the LGBTQ community

Surely he should be sacked on the spot?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

The mayor trying to improve the profile of the city that he represents.

Yeah what an absolute #@@@

Lol - in view of what's going on at the moment with Liverpool's Mayor (where you are from) - it might spell the end of the whole ridiculous idea of Mayors for tinpot towns/cities"

Tinpot?

I didn't know stockport had a mayor?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ha ha

So let's get this right.

The mayor is responsible for handling the national pandemic aswell as how the police handle crime?

Anything else?

A bird shat on my car today..

Fucking left wing mayors!

And he is actually making strides to improve relationship between the police and the LGBTQ community

Surely he should be sacked on the spot?"

Erm - the Mayor is responsible for policing in Greater ,Manchester. Didn't you realise that? Did you also not realise Stockport is in Greater Manchester - so, by default, does have a Mayor???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

People had the information about stopping the spread, they chose not heed this information and continued acting normally. We can blame the leaders all we want but ultimately the reason we're in this is because people ignored what they should have been doing. Manchester area created it's own shite as has anywhere else.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"People had the information about stopping the spread, they chose not heed this information and continued acting normally. We can blame the leaders all we want but ultimately the reason we're in this is because people ignored what they should have been doing. Manchester area created it's own shite as has anywhere else.

Stop talking sense man - it doesn't suit the leftie agenda trying to create political capital out of a pandemic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stop talking sense man - it doesn't suit the leftie agenda trying to create political capital out of a pandemic

Sorry. It's been rather lonely and seriously thinking time to leave fab.

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over a year ago

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Ha ha

So let's get this right.

The mayor is responsible for handling the national pandemic aswell as how the police handle crime?

Anything else?

A bird shat on my car today..

Fucking left wing mayors!

And he is actually making strides to improve relationship between the police and the LGBTQ community

Surely he should be sacked on the spot?

Erm - the Mayor is responsible for policing in Greater ,Manchester. Didn't you realise that? Did you also not realise Stockport is in Greater Manchester - so, by default, does have a Mayor???"

Does he investigate crimes?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Stop talking sense man - it doesn't suit the leftie agenda trying to create political capital out of a pandemic

Bless

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Stop talking sense man - it doesn't suit the leftie agenda trying to create political capital out of a pandemic

He was actually contradicting what you said.. but never mind.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"Burnham should be held to task for his actions in delaying the lockdown while he tried to get more money..

His actions have potentially and unnecessarily cost people's lives.

Conversely, the people of greater Manchester should have realised that tier 3 restrictions were necessary and acted with more care than they did leading up to the tier change.

The same can be said across most of the country, it seems that people's desire to try and get back to their old way of live has vastly outweighed their concerns about catching the virus.

Are you going to hold to task all the tories mps who have rebelled against boris's lockdown plans?

They did not actively do so with the sole aim of financial gain.

Nor has their vote delayed the lockdown plans.

Burnham delayed the tier change for one purpose only, to negotiate more money.

His actions were deliberate and unnecessary.

He could have just as easily implemented the tier change and discussed funding after but instead he held the government to ransom with the health and lives of the people of Manchester.

Listening to him on the news at the time, he sounded no different to the RMT union leader trying to get an even bigger payrise for the union members by threatening strikes.

So he wanted the same money that other parts of the country were getting ?Money that would keep afloat business that would go of business and save jobs?

What a disgrace?

When you say all pulling together presumably you mean the e mail that the gmnt sent round looking for investors who could make financial gains during the crises?

Or perhaps you mean the millions of pounds which gome gone to companies with links to senior gmnt ministers?

Or perhaps you mean the number of millionaires you have seen their fortunes rocket during the crises including our loveable Jacob reece mogg?

That sort of pulling together?

Still I agree..let's Lambast people who are fighting tooth or nail to get a minuscule pay rise to survive on.

Usually spouted by those with limited abilities to come close to what Burnham has achieved. "

What has he achieved? You drive down a road and you're fined due to new layouts and poor signage. Just a couple of years ago you could walk through Picadilly and see spice addicts wobbly, emptying their guts whilst people eat lunch or go about their daily business. People were 'bumped' by so many professionally beggars it was a daily routine.

Businesses are closing due to hiked rates, roads and pavements in disrepair. He's spent £7millions on buying/building a new green space when the coffers are bone dry and boroughs have been under massive financial pressure with austerity. Even the mass housing/office projects came under fire as they are mostly foreign owned pricing locals out of the housing market.

I'd like to know what you'd think he's done as his oversight is shuttered.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

"Burnham should be held to task for his actions in delaying the lockdown while he tried to get more money..

His actions have potentially and unnecessarily cost people's lives.

Conversely, the people of greater Manchester should have realised that tier 3 restrictions were necessary and acted with more care than they did leading up to the tier change.

The same can be said across most of the country, it seems that people's desire to try and get back to their old way of live has vastly outweighed their concerns about catching the virus.

Are you going to hold to task all the tories mps who have rebelled against boris's lockdown plans?

They did not actively do so with the sole aim of financial gain.

Nor has their vote delayed the lockdown plans.

Burnham delayed the tier change for one purpose only, to negotiate more money.

His actions were deliberate and unnecessary.

He could have just as easily implemented the tier change and discussed funding after but instead he held the government to ransom with the health and lives of the people of Manchester.

Listening to him on the news at the time, he sounded no different to the RMT union leader trying to get an even bigger payrise for the union members by threatening strikes.

So he wanted the same money that other parts of the country were getting ?Money that would keep afloat business that would go of business and save jobs?

What a disgrace?

When you say all pulling together presumably you mean the e mail that the gmnt sent round looking for investors who could make financial gains during the crises?

Or perhaps you mean the millions of pounds which gome gone to companies with links to senior gmnt ministers?

Or perhaps you mean the number of millionaires you have seen their fortunes rocket during the crises including our loveable Jacob reece mogg?

That sort of pulling together?

Still I agree..let's Lambast people who are fighting tooth or nail to get a minuscule pay rise to survive on.

Usually spouted by those with limited abilities to come close to what Burnham has achieved.

I'd like to know what you'd think he's done as his oversight is shuttered. "

Begging is a national issue linked to structural inequality,poverty and mental health.

Burnham is also not responsible for austerity which obviously hits northern cities,especially labour ones,much harder than tory shires.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

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Surprised that some Man U fans are not blaming him for more Thursday night footie..

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Begging is a national issue linked to structural inequality,poverty and mental health.

Burnham is also not responsible for austerity which obviously hits northern cities,especially labour ones,much harder than tory shires.

Sounds a good reason to hike business rates, import foreign investment and price locals out of housing; not tackle open use of drug taking, not fix roads, pavements and instead charge road users whilst not signposting changes.

Issues of structural inequality are linked to many things not least education and investment - Burnham would rather have his cap out whilst not taking advantage of available funding. The Tory-Labour divide in funding cities may have been helped if he'd have done his job promoting the city, monitoring spending of councils or as mentioned; ensuring budgets were controlled, so if needed they could by shored up as now there are reports of councils at bankruptcy through poor investment choices.

I seem to remember beggars removed from Windsor around the Royal wedding - I take it these were exceptions to the Northern Labourshire rule?

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over a year ago

Begging is a national issue linked to structural inequality,poverty and mental health.

Burnham is also not responsible for austerity which obviously hits northern cities,especially labour ones,much harder than tory shires.

I seem to remember beggars removed from Windsor around the Royal wedding - I take it these were exceptions to the Northern Labourshire rule?"

Do you have a mayor in Yumsville ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Stop talking sense man - it doesn't suit the leftie agenda trying to create political capital out of a pandemic

He was actually contradicting what you said.. but never mind."

I wasn't contradicting the man at all - I was agreeing with him talking sense. I`ll leave it now as you're clearly getting out of your depth - peace man.

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By *ripodius WillyusMan
over a year ago

Here and there

Are you really serious he stood up for folk in manchester who voted him in power.

Boris and his cronies are out of depth in puddle.

Cast mind back to beginning of pandemic who was in charge of nation when we sold the ppe we had to china.

Who was in charge and allowed folk in hospital with covid to be foisted onto care homes with no further checks to see if they were safe to send to care homes resulting in over 20 thousand deaths as well as no pppe.

Who failed to sack cummings when he had to check his eyesight by a 30 mile drive with kids and wife in with him.

Who as result let the deluded anti covid idiots became empowered as rule maker broke rules.

All the mixed messages and lots more.

For the lives lost re care homes and knowing the risks and remember on ve day when lot in care homes had contributed to winning the war and rightly got plaudits yet same time left to in effect die culminating in form of genocide and he has blood on his hands.

So please spare me the twaddle re Burnham he stood up for folk he represents Boris let thousands die.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you really serious he stood up for folk in manchester who voted him in power.

Boris and his cronies are out of depth in puddle.

Cast mind back to beginning of pandemic who was in charge of nation when we sold the ppe we had to china.

Who failed to sack cummings when he had to check his eyesight by a 30 mile drive with kids and wife in with him.

Who as result let the deluded anti covid idiots became empowered as rule maker broke rules.

All the mixed messages and lots more.

So please spare me the twaddle re Burnham he stood up for folk he represents Boris let thousands die.

Bollocks sir

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Begging is a national issue linked to structural inequality,poverty and mental health.

Burnham is also not responsible for austerity which obviously hits northern cities,especially labour ones,much harder than tory shires.

I seem to remember beggars removed from Windsor around the Royal wedding - I take it these were exceptions to the Northern Labourshire rule?

Do you have a mayor in Yumsville ? "

I'm straight mate.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Begging is a national issue linked to structural inequality,poverty and mental health.

Burnham is also not responsible for austerity which obviously hits northern cities,especially labour ones,much harder than tory shires.

I seem to remember beggars removed from Windsor around the Royal wedding - I take it these were exceptions to the Northern Labourshire rule?

Do you have a mayor in Yumsville ?

I'm straight mate. "

Really, thanks for answering a question that I didn’t ask ,btw, I like cheese

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool

Stop talking sense man - it doesn't suit the leftie agenda trying to create political capital out of a pandemic

He was actually contradicting what you said.. but never mind.

I wasn't contradicting the man at all - I was agreeing with him talking sense. I`ll leave it now as you're clearly getting out of your depth - peace man."

He was blaming the mayor for the increase

You exact words were ...people ignored what they should have been doing

Good day sir.

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