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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? " It would appear most of the world are of that opinion, yesz hopefully temporarily. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? " It all depends on the individuals life surely? There are millions of people still getting on with life albeit under the current restrictions we have.. For some getting wankered in the pub is the highlight of their day, others will go out bird watching.. I think the question is very subjective, not seeing grandkids as much as we might like and close family etc but knowing be they are safe to etc is good.. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? " I cannot speak for everyone, but my view is that whilst I am not scared of dying I am willing to put up with some inconvenience and some restrictions on my life on a temporary basis, so that I and anyone I hold dear or just come into contact with can live as long as possible. I suspect that many of the restrictions will make little or no difference as a huge number of people are ignoring them anyway. For me I am still working, still shopping, still going for a coffee; still going for a beer or two (all be it with some rules). I have elderly relatives i have not seen for months but we keep in contact by phone etc. Life goes on, the things i am not doing .... holidays.. i can manage without, sex the lack of that is not going to kill me. Huge parties - not my scene anyway; Even during lockdown i had to work shop etc, my life differs little now to what it did before covid, and the differences i can manage - So no i am not scared of dying, i just want to avoid it happening just yet ! | |||
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"No but current rules & lockdowns mean a lot of us aren't living, just existing for the time being " True but what is that, roof over the head, good health food on the table etc, going to bed in relative safety.. Some of those are not part of the existence in many parts of the world.. On the whole in the west and the more developed countries we are if we have them pretty fortunate whilst accepting there are problems without covid in many places.. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? " My guess is almost every answer will be a cross between, people getting wankered in pubs blah blah blah and strangers having sex blah blah blah and if you weren't selfish and inconsiderate you'd just do as I tell you otherwise blah blah blah. This whole argument is nonsensical and hinges on morality at best. People are going to be people and with that you need to build policies that work with and around that to imagine you can somehow completely restructure civilization as we've know it for 2000 years in a few months is at best naive and at most downright silly. | |||
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"No but current rules & lockdowns mean a lot of us aren't living, just existing for the time being True but what is that, roof over the head, good health food on the table etc, going to bed in relative safety.. Some of those are not part of the existence in many parts of the world.. On the whole in the west and the more developed countries we are if we have them pretty fortunate whilst accepting there are problems without covid in many places.." I have a roof & my kids are fed & healthy, for those I am grateful & couldn't ask for more. Indeed many countries & families have a lot less & have difficulties harder than a lot of us could imagine. I'm not scared of dying (well that's a bit of a lie I worry constantly what would happen to my kids if I did) but I wouldn't really say having been in lockdown for so long with very limited contact with others is really 'living' if that makes sense? | |||
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"No but current rules & lockdowns mean a lot of us aren't living, just existing for the time being True but what is that, roof over the head, good health food on the table etc, going to bed in relative safety.. Some of those are not part of the existence in many parts of the world.. On the whole in the west and the more developed countries we are if we have them pretty fortunate whilst accepting there are problems without covid in many places.. I have a roof & my kids are fed & healthy, for those I am grateful & couldn't ask for more. Indeed many countries & families have a lot less & have difficulties harder than a lot of us could imagine. I'm not scared of dying (well that's a bit of a lie I worry constantly what would happen to my kids if I did) but I wouldn't really say having been in lockdown for so long with very limited contact with others is really 'living' if that makes sense? " Can see where your coming from and yes I think it's very much an individual thing.. Some have said on here that they relished the full lock down as that suited their then current mental health or just because they liked the seclusion elements.. It's hard at times yes but again how we view this is perhaps linked to how we see things going .. | |||
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"No but current rules & lockdowns mean a lot of us aren't living, just existing for the time being True but what is that, roof over the head, good health food on the table etc, going to bed in relative safety.. Some of those are not part of the existence in many parts of the world.. On the whole in the west and the more developed countries we are if we have them pretty fortunate whilst accepting there are problems without covid in many places.. I have a roof & my kids are fed & healthy, for those I am grateful & couldn't ask for more. Indeed many countries & families have a lot less & have difficulties harder than a lot of us could imagine. I'm not scared of dying (well that's a bit of a lie I worry constantly what would happen to my kids if I did) but I wouldn't really say having been in lockdown for so long with very limited contact with others is really 'living' if that makes sense? Can see where your coming from and yes I think it's very much an individual thing.. Some have said on here that they relished the full lock down as that suited their then current mental health or just because they liked the seclusion elements.. It's hard at times yes but again how we view this is perhaps linked to how we see things going .. " Mentally Ive probably already lost the plot if I ever had it to begin with lol I don't mind the staying in away from folk for the most part, I can understand how it can get to others, especially those who suffer with MH. obviously little things like meeting with friends for a weekly lunch & shopping date is missed but no huge deal. I honestly don't see things being much different for the next 6 months but we have to remain hopeful don't we? | |||
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"Theres two sections of society. Those middle class with jobs they can do from home living in relatively big houses with a garden who's jobs have YET to be touched by the Pandemic, those on pensions and benefits who's income has YET to be touched by the Pandemic, those who've lost parents and grandparents to a rampant virus and then there's the other larger majority, those who'll never lose parents or grandparents, don't have the luxury of a big house with a garden, they live on the third floor or have a terrace, they lost there job six months ago or been hanging on by a thread and about to go bankrupt and they've got not much chance of finding another and all they hear is your morally bankrupt, which is apt because they're going bankrupt and there both connected. We're being run by halfwits who are robbing us blind, we've spent 240 thousand million pounds more this year and yet there's children going hungry. Were closing pubs at ten and if you ever dare to go in one your a heartless granny killer who wants to shag strangers, same with those daring to want a week away in Spain, your a heartless twat!!!. Despite you only causing 6% of infections, your a selfish bellend. You want to shop for socks or teatowels? Heartless selfish uncaring... Where's the majority of infections! Homes, work, schools and universities. We can make big inroads into that and save large amounts of infections 30-50% but no... Wear a mask blah blah blah we can save 300 infections a week." And then there's the people that have worked all the way through, no furlough for those deemed essential, the people who still have bills and are mostly low paid. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? " Maybe they are just scared that they will kill their loved ones, not everyone just thinks of themselves. | |||
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"I have enjoyed an amazing life and survived a few serious RTA's and life threatening injuries whilst also traveling the world and working at "at risk" places. I am contempt with my wife, what I have done, what i have seen and if I die tomorrow so be it We all die, most of us just dont have the choice of when. I will not be kept boxed in like a caged animal, that is worse than death to me I need, and I will enjoy my freedom, and if that puts me at risk, so be it." | |||
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"I have enjoyed an amazing life and survived a few serious RTA's and life threatening injuries whilst also traveling the world and working at "at risk" places. I am contempt with my wife, what I have done, what i have seen and if I die tomorrow so be it We all die, most of us just dont have the choice of when. I will not be kept boxed in like a caged animal, that is worse than death to me I need, and I will enjoy my freedom, and if that puts me at risk, so be it." And that's what by we will probably have another complete lockdown. | |||
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"No but current rules & lockdowns mean a lot of us aren't living, just existing for the time being True but what is that, roof over the head, good health food on the table etc, going to bed in relative safety.. Some of those are not part of the existence in many parts of the world.. On the whole in the west and the more developed countries we are if we have them pretty fortunate whilst accepting there are problems without covid in many places.. I have a roof & my kids are fed & healthy, for those I am grateful & couldn't ask for more. Indeed many countries & families have a lot less & have difficulties harder than a lot of us could imagine. I'm not scared of dying (well that's a bit of a lie I worry constantly what would happen to my kids if I did) but I wouldn't really say having been in lockdown for so long with very limited contact with others is really 'living' if that makes sense? Can see where your coming from and yes I think it's very much an individual thing.. Some have said on here that they relished the full lock down as that suited their then current mental health or just because they liked the seclusion elements.. It's hard at times yes but again how we view this is perhaps linked to how we see things going .. Mentally Ive probably already lost the plot if I ever had it to begin with lol I don't mind the staying in away from folk for the most part, I can understand how it can get to others, especially those who suffer with MH. obviously little things like meeting with friends for a weekly lunch & shopping date is missed but no huge deal. I honestly don't see things being much different for the next 6 months but we have to remain hopeful don't we? " The uncertainty in many things we go through in our lives is for many of us a source of much frustration and anxiety.. It literally is taking one day at a time with this, I'm not a scientific expert and the vast majority aren't on here either.. Entrenched ideas are common yes and as our input is fairly small with much outside of our control in relation to how this goes we might feel a bit helpless.. I don't think it helps at all when we look at how it's being handled, it's not very confidence inspiring .. Literally is what it is but I'm confident we can get through it.. | |||
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"I have enjoyed an amazing life and survived a few serious RTA's and life threatening injuries whilst also traveling the world and working at "at risk" places. I am contempt with my wife, what I have done, what i have seen and if I die tomorrow so be it We all die, most of us just dont have the choice of when. I will not be kept boxed in like a caged animal, that is worse than death to me I need, and I will enjoy my freedom, and if that puts me at risk, so be it." Roadie, have you been watching Mel Gibson in brave heart..? Respect that your also doing voluntary for the NHS where you live and even in the last full lockdown I reckon like myself you were out exercising etc .. Hardly caged.. | |||
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"Get busy living, or get busy dying. We have a choice. " Because you can kill others you DONT have a choice any more than you could use the same reasoning to drive your car at 100mph in a pedestrian zone | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? " Also scared of long covid I believe we will beat covid so prepared to wait a bit to get my life back | |||
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"I’m not scared of dying it’s a natural part of life. However, I am a mum and my responsibility is to keep them healthy. If that means we have to adapt our life to do that, then so be it Of course we miss our family and friends and the fun times we had, the freedom to travel where we liked, when we liked, however if we follow the simple rules in place then hopefully in a year or two we might just get those times back again. It makes you appreciate the simple things in life a lot more. " But what if this does not end... What if day to day restrictions get worse..?? | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Also scared of long covid I believe we will beat covid so prepared to wait a bit to get my life back" But what if you don't get your life back?? What if this new norm never changes for the better?? What then?? | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Also scared of long covid I believe we will beat covid so prepared to wait a bit to get my life back But what if you don't get your life back?? What if this new norm never changes for the better?? What then?? " No more fucking with strangers I guess | |||
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"I’m not scared of dying it’s a natural part of life. However, I am a mum and my responsibility is to keep them healthy. If that means we have to adapt our life to do that, then so be it Of course we miss our family and friends and the fun times we had, the freedom to travel where we liked, when we liked, however if we follow the simple rules in place then hopefully in a year or two we might just get those times back again. It makes you appreciate the simple things in life a lot more. But what if this does not end... What if day to day restrictions get worse..?? " Sacrifice the oldies and those vulnerable people so everyone else can fuck around and get pissed in pubs. That's the answer right. | |||
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"I’m not scared of dying it’s a natural part of life. However, I am a mum and my responsibility is to keep them healthy. If that means we have to adapt our life to do that, then so be it Of course we miss our family and friends and the fun times we had, the freedom to travel where we liked, when we liked, however if we follow the simple rules in place then hopefully in a year or two we might just get those times back again. It makes you appreciate the simple things in life a lot more. But what if this does not end... What if day to day restrictions get worse..?? Sacrifice the oldies and those vulnerable people so everyone else can fuck around and get pissed in pubs. That's the answer right. " Again with the sarcasm. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Also scared of long covid I believe we will beat covid so prepared to wait a bit to get my life back But what if you don't get your life back?? What if this new norm never changes for the better?? What then?? No more fucking with strangers I guess " But seriously forget about fucking what do we do if this doesn't end ?? | |||
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"To be fair you'd be pretty annoyed if you were reckless this year, caught it, passed it on to a few more close friends/family and you died plus some others. Then from above you looked down next year there's a vaccine that works and everyone is carrying on. You might have wished then you'd just hung in there for a year or so. There is clearly a better balance to be struck between living and hiding if we can't get a grip of the virus. Its not practical or worth it long term. But maybe we should at least give the scientists a year or so to see if we can't reduce it to local epidemics, produce better treatments or even the holy grail an effective vaccine. " And on the flip side, youd be pissed if you stuck to rules and regs, and got hit by a bus and looked down next year to realise all the drama queens were going way OTT and we had been lied to. Live life as YOU see fit. If you wana stay safe crack on, if you dont believe it and want to carry on as normal, also crack on. Stop bitching and do as you see is right | |||
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" And on the flip side, youd be pissed if you stuck to rules and regs, and got hit by a bus and looked down next year to realise all the drama queens were going way OTT and we had been lied to. Live life as YOU see fit. If you wana stay safe crack on, if you dont believe it and want to carry on as normal, also crack on. Stop bitching and do as you see is right" Who is it that’s supposed to be telling lies?? If you want to carry on as normal, then do so in the knowledge that you’re putting other people at potentially fatal risk. Carrying on as normal right now is the most disgusting and selfish thing that anyone could choose to do. | |||
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" And on the flip side, youd be pissed if you stuck to rules and regs, and got hit by a bus and looked down next year to realise all the drama queens were going way OTT and we had been lied to. Live life as YOU see fit. If you wana stay safe crack on, if you dont believe it and want to carry on as normal, also crack on. Stop bitching and do as you see is right Who is it that’s supposed to be telling lies?? If you want to carry on as normal, then do so in the knowledge that you’re putting other people at potentially fatal risk. Carrying on as normal right now is the most disgusting and selfish thing that anyone could choose to do. " | |||
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"I’m not scared of dying it’s a natural part of life. However, I am a mum and my responsibility is to keep them healthy. If that means we have to adapt our life to do that, then so be it Of course we miss our family and friends and the fun times we had, the freedom to travel where we liked, when we liked, however if we follow the simple rules in place then hopefully in a year or two we might just get those times back again. It makes you appreciate the simple things in life a lot more. But what if this does not end... What if day to day restrictions get worse..?? " They are likely to get worse before it gets better, so don’t quite understand your point. | |||
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" And on the flip side, youd be pissed if you stuck to rules and regs, and got hit by a bus and looked down next year to realise all the drama queens were going way OTT and we had been lied to. Live life as YOU see fit. If you wana stay safe crack on, if you dont believe it and want to carry on as normal, also crack on. Stop bitching and do as you see is right Who is it that’s supposed to be telling lies?? If you want to carry on as normal, then do so in the knowledge that you’re putting other people at potentially fatal risk. Carrying on as normal right now is the most disgusting and selfish thing that anyone could choose to do. " Who said me, im just saying people in general | |||
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" Who said me, im just saying people in general" | |||
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"To be fair you'd be pretty annoyed if you were reckless this year, caught it, passed it on to a few more close friends/family and you died plus some others. Then from above you looked down next year there's a vaccine that works and everyone is carrying on. You might have wished then you'd just hung in there for a year or so. There is clearly a better balance to be struck between living and hiding if we can't get a grip of the virus. Its not practical or worth it long term. But maybe we should at least give the scientists a year or so to see if we can't reduce it to local epidemics, produce better treatments or even the holy grail an effective vaccine. And on the flip side, youd be pissed if you stuck to rules and regs, and got hit by a bus and looked down next year to realise all the drama queens were going way OTT and we had been lied to. Live life as YOU see fit. If you wana stay safe crack on, if you dont believe it and want to carry on as normal, also crack on. Stop bitching and do as you see is right" Even if what you think is right is clearly not..? | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Also scared of long covid I believe we will beat covid so prepared to wait a bit to get my life back But what if you don't get your life back?? What if this new norm never changes for the better?? What then?? No more fucking with strangers I guess But seriously forget about fucking what do we do if this doesn't end ?? " I don't know about others, but we're having a whale of a time just like we always did bit we wash our hands and use loads of sanitizer,we socially distance and give others as much space as we can. We still have sex everyday and shake it up a bit by going different outdoor spots nd sexy walks in the forest. Other than missing live music pretty much live as usual here. Life is what you make of it, not a set of predefined parameters. | |||
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" And on the flip side, youd be pissed if you stuck to rules and regs, and got hit by a bus and looked down next year to realise all the drama queens were going way OTT and we had been lied to. Live life as YOU see fit. If you wana stay safe crack on, if you dont believe it and want to carry on as normal, also crack on. Stop bitching and do as you see is right Who is it that’s supposed to be telling lies?? If you want to carry on as normal, then do so in the knowledge that you’re putting other people at potentially fatal risk. Carrying on as normal right now is the most disgusting and selfish thing that anyone could choose to do. " Stop getting your knickers in a twist, let people live there life. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? " Don't find going to work every day helping those in poor health not living. Call me old fashioned but a few months of slight inconvenience is no big deal. | |||
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" Stop getting your knickers in a twist, let people live there life." The mantra of the Doylem. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? " Are people so desperate to live that they're willing to die for it? | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Are people so desperate to live that they're willing to die for it?" Yes i am.. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Don't find going to work every day helping those in poor health not living. Call me old fashioned but a few months of slight inconvenience is no big deal. " Its not just a few months though is it? And what if these months dont end, and it keeps on going what then? | |||
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" Yes I am Its not just a few months though is it? And what if these months dont end, and it keeps on going what then? " Pretty clearly it’ll make no difference at all to people willing to risk their life, and the lives of family and others for the sake of their precious ‘normal’ lives. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Don't find going to work every day helping those in poor health not living. Call me old fashioned but a few months of slight inconvenience is no big deal. Its not just a few months though is it? And what if these months dont end, and it keeps on going what then? " The more people rebel the tighter than the restrictions get, self defeating really. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Don't find going to work every day helping those in poor health not living. Call me old fashioned but a few months of slight inconvenience is no big deal. Its not just a few months though is it? And what if these months dont end, and it keeps on going what then? The more people rebel the tighter than the restrictions get, self defeating really." This!!! So true! The people doing the most twisting about restrictions, and refusing to show any solidarity like huffy toddlers, are the very people ensuring this goes on as long as possible!!! That folks don’t realise that is mind boggling! | |||
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"Get busy living, or get busy dying. We have a choice. Because you can kill others you DONT have a choice any more than you could use the same reasoning to drive your car at 100mph in a pedestrian zone" LOL. I’m choosing to live mine & there’s nothing you can do about it. Point & splutter all you like. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Don't find going to work every day helping those in poor health not living. Call me old fashioned but a few months of slight inconvenience is no big deal. Its not just a few months though is it? And what if these months dont end, and it keeps on going what then? " It's not even 12 months yet, if it goes on, deal with it. Christ, planes aren't dropping bombs on us. Inconvenience, a piece of paper over your mouth from time to time, wash your mitts a bit more, put a bit of distance between each other and eat some food with a beer. | |||
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"Get busy living, or get busy dying. We have a choice. Because you can kill others you DONT have a choice any more than you could use the same reasoning to drive your car at 100mph in a pedestrian zone LOL. I’m choosing to live mine & there’s nothing you can do about it. Point & splutter all you like. " Amd I'll bet you wear your mask in the car when you drive round | |||
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"Covid does not scare me and if i die from it then that is just the way it will be. I am trying to live as normal meanwhile but everything i want to do is not possible due to the lockdown rules and this i find very frustrating." same here | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Are people so desperate to live that they're willing to die for it? Yes i am.. " What if you infect other people and they die or have long term serious health problems? | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? " Where’s the mass suicides? Everyone is having a fucking hard time missing some of the things they love in life, myself included but giving up on living.... no, I don’t see that in friends, family or work colleagues. It’s one of life’s hard times nothing more, has the word “endure” dropped from your vocabulary? | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Don't find going to work every day helping those in poor health not living. Call me old fashioned but a few months of slight inconvenience is no big deal. Its not just a few months though is it? And what if these months dont end, and it keeps on going what then? " Well some like you will fold by the sounds of it, others will grit their teeth and plod on.. | |||
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"Get busy living, or get busy dying. We have a choice. Because you can kill others you DONT have a choice any more than you could use the same reasoning to drive your car at 100mph in a pedestrian zone LOL. I’m choosing to live mine & there’s nothing you can do about it. Point & splutter all you like. " No, I’ll just smirk at the irony that yorkshire is the current infection hotspot in the U.K... well done for powering your region towards a greater loss of liberties | |||
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"Get busy living, or get busy dying. We have a choice. Because you can kill others you DONT have a choice any more than you could use the same reasoning to drive your car at 100mph in a pedestrian zone LOL. I’m choosing to live mine & there’s nothing you can do about it. Point & splutter all you like. No, I’ll just smirk at the irony that yorkshire is the current infection hotspot in the U.K... well done for powering your region towards a greater loss of liberties " Yorkshire is a big place which part ? | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Don't find going to work every day helping those in poor health not living. Call me old fashioned but a few months of slight inconvenience is no big deal. Its not just a few months though is it? And what if these months dont end, and it keeps on going what then? Well some like you will fold by the sounds of it, others will grit their teeth and plod on.. " Fold?? No im doing what i want when i want... That's my point im not scared of dying and im living by still doing what i like.. | |||
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" Fold?? No im doing what i want when i want... That's my point im not scared of dying and im living by still doing what i like.. " Not scared of causing someone else’s death either by the sounds of it. So much bravado, and so proud of yourself!!! Staggering. | |||
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"Are people so scared of dying that they're willing to give up living...?? Don't find going to work every day helping those in poor health not living. Call me old fashioned but a few months of slight inconvenience is no big deal. Its not just a few months though is it? And what if these months dont end, and it keeps on going what then? Well some like you will fold by the sounds of it, others will grit their teeth and plod on.. Fold?? No im doing what i want when i want... That's my point im not scared of dying and im living by still doing what i like.. " Essentially your saying to all and sundry, fuck you Jack? Your not alone sadly.. | |||
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"I don't know about everyone else, but despite the restrictions, I've hardly "stopped living". There are many things I am desperately missing, such as live music and shagging strangers at clubs, but ultimately I'm hardly living like a hermit. For the time being, I'll make the best out of a bad situation. Cal" Same here | |||
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"I don't know about everyone else, but despite the restrictions, I've hardly "stopped living". There are many things I am desperately missing, such as live music and shagging strangers at clubs, but ultimately I'm hardly living like a hermit. For the time being, I'll make the best out of a bad situation. Cal" Nothing has really changed for us as long as we get on our holiday in December it will be happy days. We barely go out for drink or food . We still get to see all our kids and grandkids and both still working . So just the same really. We miss our dirty weekends away but those can wait. | |||
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" Fold?? No im doing what i want when i want... That's my point im not scared of dying and im living by still doing what i like.. Not scared of causing someone else’s death either by the sounds of it. So much bravado, and so proud of yourself!!! Staggering. " Id never know so its not something i need to think about... | |||
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" Fold?? No im doing what i want when i want... That's my point im not scared of dying and im living by still doing what i like.. Not scared of causing someone else’s death either by the sounds of it. So much bravado, and so proud of yourself!!! Staggering. Id never know so its not something i need to think about... " Idiot. | |||
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"Get busy living, or get busy dying. We have a choice. Because you can kill others you DONT have a choice any more than you could use the same reasoning to drive your car at 100mph in a pedestrian zone LOL. I’m choosing to live mine & there’s nothing you can do about it. Point & splutter all you like. No, I’ll just smirk at the irony that yorkshire is the current infection hotspot in the U.K... well done for powering your region towards a greater loss of liberties Yorkshire is a big place which part ?" West and south I believe | |||
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