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"So, I'd like to think we swingers are a liberal bunch, but what do you think about this... An NHS doctor told me that you don't have to download the COVID app to your [Apple] device, it's already been put there. 'Rubbish!' said I...until I looked in 'settings' on my iPhone 6s and there it is. I 100% did not download this, even after a few ciders last weekend! I don't know whether it's happened on other platforms, e.g. Android but I guess it's possible. So, putting your opinions about the app and it's usefulness aside, the focussed question for this thread is: how do you feel about something being downloaded to your 'phone, of this nature (i.e. a tracker) without being asked? I should point out that one actually has to turn it 'on', the default state is 'inactive'...but still..." It is the framework that allows the NHS (and others) to work if you choose to install them. It does nothing unless you make the conscious choice to install something that makes use of it. Even then, you have the option to turn Bluetooth on and off at will to prevent the proximity tracking should you so desire. | |||
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"So, I'd like to think we swingers are a liberal bunch, but what do you think about this... An NHS doctor told me that you don't have to download the COVID app to your [Apple] device, it's already been put there. 'Rubbish!' said I...until I looked in 'settings' on my iPhone 6s and there it is. I 100% did not download this, even after a few ciders last weekend! I don't know whether it's happened on other platforms, e.g. Android but I guess it's possible. So, putting your opinions about the app and it's usefulness aside, the focussed question for this thread is: how do you feel about something being downloaded to your 'phone, of this nature (i.e. a tracker) without being asked? I should point out that one actually has to turn it 'on', the default state is 'inactive'...but still..." You've been suckered, don't worry you're not the first and probably not the last. | |||
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"Ah, OK - thanks for the info. I still didn't ask for the 'framework' though!" You probably didn't ask apple to track your movements, record your web searches and other things you really don't want to think too much about. If you use any phone you're tracked and I don't believe there is any way to get out of it apart from leaving your phone at home. | |||
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"It’s better than when they downloaded that fucking U2 album into your iTunes Without asking you about it." ******************************** They did that U2 thaang to me as well, I tried to dump it but it's dug in like an Alabama tic.....!! | |||
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"Ah, OK - thanks for the info. I still didn't ask for the 'framework' though!" It's effectively now part of iOS, in as much as the ability to send text messages/make phone calls etc. Part of the product, if you will. As others have said though, it won't actually do anything unless you download one of the apps that make use of it, similar to how something like Strava, or maps, makes use of location services. | |||
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"No it's not there, not on android anyway. You have to download the app to use the covid bit. " Go into settingsGoogle settings. You'll find it there. | |||
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"No it's not there, not on android anyway. You have to download the app to use the covid bit. Go into settingsGoogle settings. You'll find it there." Yes but that's not an app, just what an app would use to run on. | |||
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"So, I'd like to think we swingers are a liberal bunch, but what do you think about this... An NHS doctor told me that you don't have to download the COVID app to your [Apple] device, it's already been put there. 'Rubbish!' said I...until I looked in 'settings' on my iPhone 6s and there it is. I 100% did not download this, even after a few ciders last weekend! I don't know whether it's happened on other platforms, e.g. Android but I guess it's possible. So, putting your opinions about the app and it's usefulness aside, the focussed question for this thread is: how do you feel about something being downloaded to your 'phone, of this nature (i.e. a tracker) without being asked? I should point out that one actually has to turn it 'on', the default state is 'inactive'...but still..." I dont like it at all, makes me think more that we are all being controlled and dictated too in a certain way. I preferred life 30 odd years ago b4 all this Internet and mobile phone technology took off | |||
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"No it's not there, not on android anyway. You have to download the app to use the covid bit. Go into settingsGoogle settings. You'll find it there. Yes but that's not an app, just what an app would use to run on." Ah my mistake. I read it as you weren't aware "Exposure Notification" wasn't there. As you were. | |||
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"So, I'd like to think we swingers are a liberal bunch, but what do you think about this... An NHS doctor told me that you don't have to download the COVID app to your [Apple] device, it's already been put there. 'Rubbish!' said I...until I looked in 'settings' on my iPhone 6s and there it is. I 100% did not download this, even after a few ciders last weekend! I don't know whether it's happened on other platforms, e.g. Android but I guess it's possible. So, putting your opinions about the app and it's usefulness aside, the focussed question for this thread is: how do you feel about something being downloaded to your 'phone, of this nature (i.e. a tracker) without being asked? I should point out that one actually has to turn it 'on', the default state is 'inactive'...but still..." Yep I heard about this 3 months ago and didn't believe it at all until I looked and fck me there it was. The fact that I didnt download it and it was put there secretly is very concerning. | |||
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"No it's not there, not on android anyway. You have to download the app to use the covid bit. Go into settingsGoogle settings. You'll find it there. Yes but that's not an app, just what an app would use to run on. Ah my mistake. I read it as you weren't aware "Exposure Notification" wasn't there. As you were." Hahahaha sadly I'm one of them that actually scans down the info of an update (I know, proper sad) as I like to know what I'm gonna have to change back after  so I knew it was there as it happened and sat back waiting for the social media meltdown | |||
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"No it's not there, not on android anyway. You have to download the app to use the covid bit. Go into settingsGoogle settings. You'll find it there." Mine are set to off and it still needs you to download the actual app | |||
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"Are the people who object to the app the same people who object to tighter restrictions when they are imposed to try and get the virus back under control again?" I don't want the app nor do I want to be locked down. It doesn't mean I'm not following the rules though. | |||
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"No it's not there, not on android anyway. You have to download the app to use the covid bit. Go into settingsGoogle settings. You'll find it there. Mine are set to off and it still needs you to download the actual app " Found the exposure on settings. But says need to download an app to run it. Says l turned off! So unless you have the app as well it can't notify you. | |||
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"It’s better than when they downloaded that fucking U2 album into your iTunes Without asking you about it." Made me laugh out loud as it’s true! | |||
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"Are the people who object to the app the same people who object to tighter restrictions when they are imposed to try and get the virus back under control again?" Not in my case. I don't need the app because I socially distance, wear a mask and don't go to restaurants/ pubs/ others. Lock down or not I am happy staying at home ta 
But yeah it was in the Google play update, you still need to opt in (actually download a compatible app) then switch settings on, go places, scan in and hope it works | |||
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"I forgot to say, it's called 'Exposure Notifications' Mr BiCpl" It is not The App or even An App at all. It is just a BACK END SERVICE which is required to let the Apps talk to the operating system. | |||
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"I forgot to say, it's called 'Exposure Notifications' Mr BiCpl It is not The App or even An App at all. It is just a BACK END SERVICE which is required to let the Apps talk to the operating system. " like one of those shortcuts when u install something and u think...'i never installed that' | |||
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"I forgot to say, it's called 'Exposure Notifications' Mr BiCpl It is not The App or even An App at all. It is just a BACK END SERVICE which is required to let the Apps talk to the operating system. like one of those shortcuts when u install something and u think...'i never installed that'" No, like when you buy a new printer for your laptop but it doesn't work until the driver is installed. Where as a driver allow your computer to talk to the printer, this "Service" allows any Track'n'Trace App to talk to the hardware in your Phone. Cal | |||
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"Yep new the framework was there, I wasn't worried however I didn't download the app, didn't can't too, my choice, don't judge. However the whole family had to take a test last week, everyone except me got a negative notification via text, I however got a text giving me no option but to download the app to see my results. I knew immediately I had tested positive! " But some people can't download the app due to type of phone/storage full/old phone etc. How would they get their results? | |||
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"I forgot to say, it's called 'Exposure Notifications' Mr BiCpl It is not The App or even An App at all. It is just a BACK END SERVICE which is required to let the Apps talk to the operating system. like one of those shortcuts when u install something and u think...'i never installed that' No, like when you buy a new printer for your laptop but it doesn't work until the driver is installed. Where as a driver allow your computer to talk to the printer, this "Service" allows any Track'n'Trace App to talk to the hardware in your Phone. Cal" my phone just blocked me from a potential shag.true story. | |||
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"So, I'd like to think we swingers are a liberal bunch, but what do you think about this... An NHS doctor told me that you don't have to download the COVID app to your [Apple] device, it's already been put there. 'Rubbish!' said I...until I looked in 'settings' on my iPhone 6s and there it is. I 100% did not download this, even after a few ciders last weekend! I don't know whether it's happened on other platforms, e.g. Android but I guess it's possible. So, putting your opinions about the app and it's usefulness aside, the focussed question for this thread is: how do you feel about something being downloaded to your 'phone, of this nature (i.e. a tracker) without being asked? I should point out that one actually has to turn it 'on', the default state is 'inactive'...but still..." It's not on my iphone 8. | |||
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"I forgot to say, it's called 'Exposure Notifications' Mr BiCpl It is not The App or even An App at all. It is just a BACK END SERVICE which is required to let the Apps talk to the operating system. like one of those shortcuts when u install something and u think...'i never installed that' No, like when you buy a new printer for your laptop but it doesn't work until the driver is installed. Where as a driver allow your computer to talk to the printer, this "Service" allows any Track'n'Trace App to talk to the hardware in your Phone. Cal ------ my phone just blocked me from a potential shag.true story." You are probably lacking the correct BACK-END-SERVICES  | |||
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"I forgot to say, it's called 'Exposure Notifications' Mr BiCpl It is not The App or even An App at all. It is just a BACK END SERVICE which is required to let the Apps talk to the operating system. like one of those shortcuts when u install something and u think...'i never installed that' No, like when you buy a new printer for your laptop but it doesn't work until the driver is installed. Where as a driver allow your computer to talk to the printer, this "Service" allows any Track'n'Trace App to talk to the hardware in your Phone. Cal ------ my phone just blocked me from a potential shag.true story. You are probably lacking the correct BACK-END-SERVICES "how dare you! I use 5g in all my orifices | |||
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"And this is how fake news spreads across the internet someone with no clue hears something from someone else with no clue. As as been pointed out here already it’s just a service spending up the Bluetooth ability to apps. " To be fair, if Google and Apple had told people about this in advance, it wouldn't have been "discovered" and there wouldn't a controversy. Cal | |||
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"And this is how fake news spreads across the internet someone with no clue hears something from someone else with no clue. As as been pointed out here already it’s just a service spending up the Bluetooth ability to apps. To be fair, if Google and Apple had told people about this in advance, it wouldn't have been "discovered" and there wouldn't a controversy. Cal" And to be just as fair they did, it was all over their websites when the update was released as well as in the update notes released with the update on the devices it was installed on... | |||
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"And this is how fake news spreads across the internet someone with no clue hears something from someone else with no clue. As as been pointed out here already it’s just a service spending up the Bluetooth ability to apps. To be fair, if Google and Apple had told people about this in advance, it wouldn't have been "discovered" and there wouldn't a controversy. Cal" It would have helped if google and apple had offered 2 o/s systems. One with knowledge that you was updating the os that included health notifications and one without the notifications Not installed it as an o/s update for those that havent updated there operating system wont have it. | |||
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"And this is how fake news spreads across the internet someone with no clue hears something from someone else with no clue. As as been pointed out here already it’s just a service spending up the Bluetooth ability to apps. To be fair, if Google and Apple had told people about this in advance, it wouldn't have been "discovered" and there wouldn't a controversy. Cal It would have helped if google and apple had offered 2 o/s systems. One with knowledge that you was updating the os that included health notifications and one without the notifications Not installed it as an o/s update for those that havent updated there operating system wont have it." Ffs ... they need to start introducing tests and licences for using the internet to stop this stupidity. No app updates included “health notifications” they included access to the Bluetooth systems allowing other apps to access the feature. It cannot be used without you installing an app that has been given access to it, and you have to connect that app to it when downloaded to enable the process.. | |||
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"Are the people who object to the app the same people who object to tighter restrictions when they are imposed to try and get the virus back under control again?" Id say stop living in a dream world if you think stopping pubs and clubs partys going on Thats not going to stop the virus when you have schools and workplaces still working away with other people around them. | |||
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"It's actually a lot worse Your phone contains the necessary hardware and software to watch and listen to everything you do every minute of every day. Have you ever spoken to someone about a product or service and next time you look at Facebook or whatever you see an advert for that very thing ? Sandra is listening. Unfortunately no matter how much I talk about sexy women nobody has offered me a free trial of one on Amazon." You talk to people on your phone... how retro | |||
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"And this is how fake news spreads across the internet someone with no clue hears something from someone else with no clue. As as been pointed out here already it’s just a service spending up the Bluetooth ability to apps. To be fair, if Google and Apple had told people about this in advance, it wouldn't have been "discovered" and there wouldn't a controversy. Cal It would have helped if google and apple had offered 2 o/s systems. One with knowledge that you was updating the os that included health notifications and one without the notifications Not installed it as an o/s update for those that havent updated there operating system wont have it. Ffs ... they need to start introducing tests and licences for using the internet to stop this stupidity. No app updates included “health notifications” they included access to the Bluetooth systems allowing other apps to access the feature. It cannot be used without you installing an app that has been given access to it, and you have to connect that app to it when downloaded to enable the process.." That’s not true! That was the case back in May when the update was introduced and everyone had exposure notifications installed with an update and this would allow track & tracing via 3rd party applications - that was phase 1 Phase 2 however which started in August with another automatic update on IOS and Android phones allows to opt-in to coronavirus exposure notifications without need of a third party app (this is published on Apple.com website). BUT In October Apple introduced IOS 14 and that version of the operating system contains a new privacy-preserving system that allows users to prevent tracking from advertisers. | |||
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"It's actually a lot worse Your phone contains the necessary hardware and software to watch and listen to everything you do every minute of every day. Have you ever spoken to someone about a product or service and next time you look at Facebook or whatever you see an advert for that very thing ? Sandra is listening. Unfortunately no matter how much I talk about sexy women nobody has offered me a free trial of one on Amazon. You talk to people on your phone... how retro" Not really and they are snooping on conversations when the phone is in your pocket listening for keywords for advertising. Try it | |||
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