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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. " or ita the bending of rules to keep the owner and there staff in work so something to really be proud of. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. " How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. " Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!!" Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on " No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. " Is that just the one's who serve alcohol? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Is that just the one's who serve alcohol? " No, food too. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Is that just the one's who serve alcohol? No, food too." I now understand why your area is in top tier restrictions. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Is that just the one's who serve alcohol? No, food too. I now understand why your area is in top tier restrictions. " | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!!" I know, what a fucking twat.. . | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on " What's the difference between this and wethies? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this !" Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? | |||
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"All this covid-19 stuff is getting ridiculous...... the government don't care a ***k if people loose their businesses as long as they are ok.....same old same old "I'm ok jack" ***k everybody else.....good luck to anybody who has an idea to keep their head above water "Do you not get the irony of what you just posted? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? " I'd like to know the difference between this and a pub which charges full price for a meal? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? " Has he always served meals? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Is that just the one's who serve alcohol? No, food too. I now understand why your area is in top tier restrictions. "My council is CWAC , so I'm in Tier 2 actually | |||
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" I'd like to know the difference between this and a pub which charges full price for a meal?" A pub that is charging a proper price for meals will be making a profit, so benefits the business. This guy cannot be making a profit and will actually be losing money by selling meals at a penny. I’m all for adapting your business to keep it going through all this, but his method unfortunately will have him under very close scrutiny. Not just COVID marshalls, but I imagine a visit from H&S inspectors won’t be far away as a venue who doesn’t normally serve food | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? " Does the roles state the pub has always had to serve meals? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Is that just the one's who serve alcohol? No, food too. I now understand why your area is in top tier restrictions.
My council is CWAC , so I'm in Tier 2 actually "Personally I wouldn’t waste good money on paying for a meal (not eating it) to sit in a pub with my household / support bubble when I could do that at home, under T2 rules | |||
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" I'd like to know the difference between this and a pub which charges full price for a meal? A pub that is charging a proper price for meals will be making a profit, so benefits the business. This guy cannot be making a profit and will actually be losing money by selling meals at a penny. I’m all for adapting your business to keep it going through all this, but his method unfortunately will have him under very close scrutiny. Not just COVID marshalls, but I imagine a visit from H&S inspectors won’t be far away as a venue who doesn’t normally serve food " But in black and white terms..what he is doing Is no different to the likes of wetherspoons? Which shows again..just how nonsensical the rules are. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? " The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Is that just the one's who serve alcohol? No, food too. I now understand why your area is in top tier restrictions.
My council is CWAC , so I'm in Tier 2 actually
Personally I wouldn’t waste good money on paying for a meal (not eating it) to sit in a pub with my household / support bubble when I could do that at home, under T2 rules "I hear you. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food." So he has broke no rules. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. So he has broke no rules." If you say so ! | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. So he has broke no rules." If he doesn’t have a licence to supply food, which is the unknown and we can only assume he doesn’t if he has never previously sold food, then yes he has broke a rule - not a covid rule, but a general one | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Is that just the one's who serve alcohol? No, food too. I now understand why your area is in top tier restrictions.
My council is CWAC , so I'm in Tier 2 actually "Tier 2.Should not meet in indoor settings unless they are family or part of a support bubble. Is that the tier 2 you are in. Funny ....doesnt mention you can meet friends/ buy a meal but, not consume it just to socialize over a drink... this is why covid is spreading . | |||
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"All this covid-19 stuff is getting ridiculous...... the government don't care a ***k if people loose their businesses as long as they are ok.....same old same old "I'm ok jack" ***k everybody else.....good luck to anybody who has an idea to keep their head above water "Yeah ... this government want all businesses to shut down so they don't have to keep counting all that horrible tax money that keeps coming in ..... if everywhere shuts down and no tax money coming in, they can then sack all the HMRC workers too and save even more money .... great thinking love. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Is that just the one's who serve alcohol? No, food too. I now understand why your area is in top tier restrictions.
My council is CWAC , so I'm in Tier 2 actually
Tier 2.Should not meet in indoor settings unless they are family or part of a support bubble.
Is that the tier 2 you are in.
Funny ....doesnt mention you can meet friends/ buy a meal but, not consume it just to socialize over a drink... this is why covid is spreading .
"Mecca Bingo clubs are open in our area. As long as you are a member you can attend. As long as you only sit one person to a table you are not breaking any restrictions. You can order food, drinks and chat to whoever you wish. I didn't decide that was allowed, and I haven't broken any rules! | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. So he has broke no rules. If you say so !" What rules has he broke? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. So he has broke no rules. If he doesn’t have a licence to supply food, which is the unknown and we can only assume he doesn’t if he has never previously sold food, then yes he has broke a rule - not a covid rule, but a general one " I'm guessing if he didnt have a licence, he would have been shut down? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. So he has broke no rules. If you say so ! What rules has he broke?" Dont antagonize me Lionel. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. So he has broke no rules. If he doesn’t have a licence to supply food, which is the unknown and we can only assume he doesn’t if he has never previously sold food, then yes he has broke a rule - not a covid rule, but a general one I'm guessing if he didnt have a licence, he would have been shut down?" The story broke yesterday and from what it states he was contacted by an environmental individual to point out the covid rules. The licensing sector, I believe, is a separate team and I’m sure they will be double checking a few venues to ensure they have all the correct paperwork and H&S clearance. I’m sure this isn’t the last time we will see stories like this | |||
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"I guess if he can make a few quid on the beer sales by allowing people to drink all day/night ... it will cover his losses on the food.. nobody can eat that much anyway if they are concentrating their efforts on getting a few pints down... if he covers costs and wages and saves his business then fair play to him... too many people who are sat working from home on full pay or in safe jobs are very quick to judge others doing what they can to survive all this shit... " With respect, you need to read up on Tier 3 rules with regard to restaurants. | |||
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"I guess if he can make a few quid on the beer sales by allowing people to drink all day/night ... it will cover his losses on the food.. nobody can eat that much anyway if they are concentrating their efforts on getting a few pints down... if he covers costs and wages and saves his business then fair play to him... too many people who are sat working from home on full pay or in safe jobs are very quick to judge others doing what they can to survive all this shit... With respect, you need to read up on Tier 3 rules with regard to restaurants. " With equal respect, there will be no pubs or restaurants left at this rate if the scaremongering amongst us have their way. Along with every other sector of hospitality.... | |||
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"I guess if he can make a few quid on the beer sales by allowing people to drink all day/night ... it will cover his losses on the food.. nobody can eat that much anyway if they are concentrating their efforts on getting a few pints down... if he covers costs and wages and saves his business then fair play to him... too many people who are sat working from home on full pay or in safe jobs are very quick to judge others doing what they can to survive all this shit... " As I understand it he was giving people a maximum of 2-hours to eat (as much as they like) to not have people not get too tipsy. Good luck to him if he is keeping people safe, and to the rules and diversifying in a way that keeps his business open during these hard times | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this !" Nobody here would agree to the flouting of rules and laws that was definitely done to likely increase infection levels. Following the rules for restaurants is promoted as safe enough, hence all the restaurants around me that are operating legally. The government has had the expert input and then imposed the rules. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. " My god is that a joke ? You do realise that meeting friends is why the virus is spreading so fast ? You realise that restrictions will.be in place until it stops spreading so fast ? If you ..... Absolutely unbelievable. | |||
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"Sit there with a pint and you can get covid, put a meal in front of you though hmmmm" Totally irrelevant | |||
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"If decent support was offered to businesses in Tier 3, they wouldn't have to resort to such measures. The 40 million hospitality grant is a load of shit! The caveats are ridiculous and it excludes a lot of businesses, including ours. But then again, the adult industry and night clubs are not important, neither are their employees, their suppliers or contractors it seems" ,,,which caveat is the biggest hurdle for a you? | |||
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"https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18812187.lancashire-pub-owner-will-now-sell-meals-1p-can-stay-open-tier-3-restrictions/ Ships & giggles in Preston is serving 1p meals, I wonder if this will catch on in other venues
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"Sit there with a pint and you can get covid, put a meal in front of you though hmmmm" Seriously, you didn't read the regulations ? Really ??? | |||
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"Is sitting in the pub more important than trying to save as many lives as possible why is it such a big deal for the pubs to stay open we need to find a way to save lives not an excuse to keep the pubs open" Yep, if the arseholes cheat the system then close them all for 6 months. Places dont spread Covid, people do, unfortunately people don't learn so we must close the places simples | |||
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"https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18812187.lancashire-pub-owner-will-now-sell-meals-1p-can-stay-open-tier-3-restrictions/ Ships & giggles in Preston is serving 1p meals, I wonder if this will catch on in other venues
It will be stopped"I don't doubt that at all | |||
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"If decent support was offered to businesses in Tier 3, they wouldn't have to resort to such measures. The 40 million hospitality grant is a load of shit! The caveats are ridiculous and it excludes a lot of businesses, including ours. But then again, the adult industry and night clubs are not important, neither are their employees, their suppliers or contractors it seems,,,which caveat is the biggest hurdle for a you?" The biggest is that the funding is only available to businesses who re-opened after lockdown for 3 months and then closed again. Night clubs and most swingers clubs have never re-opened, but we are not eligible for the grant | |||
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"https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18812187.lancashire-pub-owner-will-now-sell-meals-1p-can-stay-open-tier-3-restrictions/ Ships & giggles in Preston is serving 1p meals, I wonder if this will catch on in other venues
"But he will lose a lot of money unless its gruel!!? | |||
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"https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18812187.lancashire-pub-owner-will-now-sell-meals-1p-can-stay-open-tier-3-restrictions/ Ships & giggles in Preston is serving 1p meals, I wonder if this will catch on in other venues
But he will lose a lot of money unless its gruel!!?"Its 5 quid a pint mind you | |||
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"https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18812187.lancashire-pub-owner-will-now-sell-meals-1p-can-stay-open-tier-3-restrictions/ Ships & giggles in Preston is serving 1p meals, I wonder if this will catch on in other venues
But he will lose a lot of money unless its gruel!!?
Its 5 quid a pint mind you "Haha that's like the counting house pub, cheap food extortionate priced alcohol | |||
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"https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18812187.lancashire-pub-owner-will-now-sell-meals-1p-can-stay-open-tier-3-restrictions/ Ships & giggles in Preston is serving 1p meals, I wonder if this will catch on in other venues
But he will lose a lot of money unless its gruel!!?
Its 5 quid a pint mind you "That'll go down well in Lancashire lol! | |||
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"Even without this guys idea, can anyone explain why a pub serving food is safer than one that does not. Assuming the rule of 6, social distancing, table service, masks unless sat down etc are in place in both. " It probably doesn't like the smell of vinegar soaked chips 
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this !" I’m appalled that you’re appalled! 
How is he flouting rules if he’s serving a ‘substantial meal’ with drinks - exactly as per the rules?
Do you think covid gives a shit how much people pay for their food - and only attacks those who buy cheap food?
The guy is trying to stay in business. If I went I’d insist on paying a fairer price for the food as it’s a living hell trying to keep any kind of hospitality business going right now.
As long as he, his staff and customers follow the hygiene, mask and social distance recommendations then it makes no difference how much he charges for food!
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"Even without this guys idea, can anyone explain why a pub serving food is safer than one that does not. Assuming the rule of 6, social distancing, table service, masks unless sat down etc are in place in both. " I imagine the idea is that it means, firstly, that you’ll spend longer in one place as you’re eating - and it will stop people going to multiple pubs/bars in a short space of time and therefore limit the risk of spreading covid. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on " Heading for bankruptcy if people don't, what's so different to this from eat out to help out! | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! I’m appalled that you’re appalled!
How is he flouting rules if he’s serving a ‘substantial meal’ with drinks - exactly as per the rules?
Do you think covid gives a shit how much people pay for their food - and only attacks those who buy cheap food?
The guy is trying to stay in business. If I went I’d insist on paying a fairer price for the food as it’s a living hell trying to keep any kind of hospitality business going right now.
As long as he, his staff and customers follow the hygiene, mask and social distance recommendations then it makes no difference how much he charges for food!
"This. And the guy is also accepting "pay what you feel" voluntary additional over the 1p minimum. I've been to this pub and it's already well designed for table service of a socially distant manner, actually. Last time I went, I drove a mobility scooter round the place quite easily, with no crashing and the ability to turn without reversing. It's a spacious place, very safe if people follow the mask and hand washing regime. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! I’m appalled that you’re appalled!
How is he flouting rules if he’s serving a ‘substantial meal’ with drinks - exactly as per the rules?
Do you think covid gives a shit how much people pay for their food - and only attacks those who buy cheap food?
The guy is trying to stay in business. If I went I’d insist on paying a fairer price for the food as it’s a living hell trying to keep any kind of hospitality business going right now.
As long as he, his staff and customers follow the hygiene, mask and social distance recommendations then it makes no difference how much he charges for food!
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"Even without this guys idea, can anyone explain why a pub serving food is safer than one that does not. Assuming the rule of 6, social distancing, table service, masks unless sat down etc are in place in both. " Apparently the argument Is people are just buying 1 drink with their meal. If people genuinely believe this is happening is wethies up and down the country ,they are living in cloud cuckoo land. | |||
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"Thats brill innovation, hope more can do it if they need to" There are so many businesses thinking outside the box... I hope they all survive! | |||
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"Thats brill innovation, hope more can do it if they need to There are so many businesses thinking outside the box... I hope they all survive! " They are extending the problem and will force others out of business though? | |||
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"Thats brill innovation, hope more can do it if they need to There are so many businesses thinking outside the box... I hope they all survive! " Thinking outside the box is what is needed | |||
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"Thats brill innovation, hope more can do it if they need to There are so many businesses thinking outside the box... I hope they all survive! They are extending the problem and will force others out of business though?" No different to anywhere else that is open & doing the same. The only folk forcing anyone out of business is the govt with these forced closures, contradictory advice & lack of real financial help to the places that have had to close & their staff. | |||
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"Even without this guys idea, can anyone explain why a pub serving food is safer than one that does not. Assuming the rule of 6, social distancing, table service, masks unless sat down etc are in place in both. It probably doesn't like the smell of vinegar soaked chips
I guess the govt know what they're doing when setting out these guidelines"That would be a first, but i suppose it could be the case. How odd though that most of the objections to what this man is doing are coming from the south (tory land), where this is not going to effect them ! | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. So he has broke no rules. If you say so ! What rules has he broke? Dont antagonize me Lionel." You did state an untruth though  | |||
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"Thats brill innovation, hope more can do it if they need to There are so many businesses thinking outside the box... I hope they all survive! Thinking outside the box is what is needed "I think some people believe others shouldn't adapt to survive and should just go bust instead. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. So he has broke no rules. If you say so ! What rules has he broke? Dont antagonize me Lionel." Exactly, the landlord was told he couldn't give free food so he stopped and started charging so he's following the rules. Lionel, don't rub salt in her Faux pas | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! Please, please explain ohow he's floured the rules and not just your opinions, what rule has he ignored or broken? Has he always served meals? The report from the environmental health informed him that he couldnt give free food away so he now charges 1p. Doesnt mention if he has a food license or not but previously hasn't served food. So he has broke no rules. If you say so ! What rules has he broke? Dont antagonize me Lionel. Exactly, the landlord was told he couldn't give free food so he stopped and started charging so he's following the rules. Lionel, don't rub salt in her Faux pas " | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. " So sad that you and your friends pay for a meal and waste the food just for a drink. At least eat the meal you ordered. It makes no sense to me to waste food. | |||
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"The problem being that taking advantage of loopholes will just result in an increased risk of blanket closures." To a point I agree but can see why some people are doing so and in this case totally can emphasise with what the guy is trying to do given down the road there will be others open also serving food.. Also there has been inconsistent messages throughout and lax rules when clarity and laws to enable the police etc to enforce things properly.. It's almost half arsed, Boris at the start made a comment about the rights of free born men or some thing similar in relation to closing pubs etc and it's been wishy washy, inconsistent, confusing and open to abuse since when it should really have not been.. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this !" yes because dont forget, if you sell food, covid says, oh we cant go in there and infect people, as they are eating, but when they see a pub with drinkers in, happy days lads we can infect them all. causing mass unemployment isnt going to make this go away, just cause huge problems of debt for future generations. the harsh reality is, yes some will die, i knew on who has, and its very sad, but thats life, we could all die anyday off loads of things, but we carry on and try to make the best of life, lock down doesnt seem to be working, cases have only gone up since lockdown because we were not testing properly then, and still arent properly, but i know for sure that deaths from other causes and depression related suicides have rocketed, and we will face the aftermath trying to feed and house a huge unemployed part of the population, who lets not forget pay very little tax compaired to people who work, and we are more in debt than since the 2nd world war, it may even be worse, i dont know the figures. eitherway ruining the ecomamy is not the answer. imagine the outcry when hospitals have to close because we cant afford them??????? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! yes because dont forget, if you sell food, covid says, oh we cant go in there and infect people, as they are eating, but when they see a pub with drinkers in, happy days lads we can infect them all. causing mass unemployment isnt going to make this go away, just cause huge problems of debt for future generations. the harsh reality is, yes some will die, i knew on who has, and its very sad, but thats life, we could all die anyday off loads of things, but we carry on and try to make the best of life, lock down doesnt seem to be working, cases have only gone up since lockdown because we were not testing properly then, and still arent properly, but i know for sure that deaths from other causes and depression related suicides have rocketed, and we will face the aftermath trying to feed and house a huge unemployed part of the population, who lets not forget pay very little tax compaired to people who work, and we are more in debt than since the 2nd world war, it may even be worse, i dont know the figures. eitherway ruining the ecomamy is not the answer. imagine the outcry when hospitals have to close because we cant afford them???????" Here here ....let's just get on with life the best we know how | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this ! I’m appalled that you’re appalled!
How is he flouting rules if he’s serving a ‘substantial meal’ with drinks - exactly as per the rules?
Do you think covid gives a shit how much people pay for their food - and only attacks those who buy cheap food?
The guy is trying to stay in business. If I went I’d insist on paying a fairer price for the food as it’s a living hell trying to keep any kind of hospitality business going right now.
As long as he, his staff and customers follow the hygiene, mask and social distance recommendations then it makes no difference how much he charges for food!
I'm still waiting for someone to point out the difference between what he is doing..and what wethies are doing?
Apart from his food is a lot cheaper."the difference is wetherspoons were already within the guidelines with their business model they havent adapted in what is clearly a loss making way just to bend themself into a rule that was clearly written with the intention of them being closed in some industries there is what is known as “rules based approach” where rather than work to the letter of the law you are expected to work to the spirit of the rule ... it stops people looking for tiny loopholes to get away with shady behaviour... clearly hospitality isnt one of them | |||
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"Has Lionel been cloned? "Maybe I've got a doppelganger account I dont know about? | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. So sad that you and your friends pay for a meal and waste the food just for a drink. At least eat the meal you ordered. It makes no sense to me to waste food. " Eat out to help out n all that Only reason for that was to help the local economy and people keep jobs, this is no different | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. " Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... | |||
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"Can you have a penny meal without a pint?" Im off to Preston for tea if so. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. or ita the bending of rules to keep the owner and there staff in work so something to really be proud of. " But if he was selling meals at full price then thats ok because its what the law/guidelines say is ok | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... " because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates " And stop him going out of business perhaps | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates " #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer | |||
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"Ive been wondering,how can he make any form of profit form selling the meal at 1p.Must sell one hell of a lot of drinks to break even. But good luck to him." I've wondered that too. 
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"Ive been wondering,how can he make any form of profit form selling the meal at 1p.Must sell one hell of a lot of drinks to break even. But good luck to him. I've wondered that too.
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates And stop him going out of business perhaps " read what i have quoted it specifically says “in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2” the poster already provided their motive and everyone else seems to be inferring goodwill into it on their behalf | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer " .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. How dare he try and save his company and his employees jobs.. HOW DARE HE !!!!!!! Yes ! How dare he . Its because of the flouting of rules that keep this virus going . I'm appalled that people are agreeing with this !" The sad thing is there is not one work place or very few that covid has not been knocking at the door to be let in in most of britain and its on going, The first vaccine will be out around christmas time with a rolling stock of different generations of vaccine over a two, three, four, year time period what the state of this country will then be is anybodys guess not forgetting the world too. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates And stop him going out of business perhaps read what i have quoted it specifically says “in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2” the poster already provided their motive and everyone else seems to be inferring goodwill into it on their behalf " by the way i should add that i am not some high horse goody 2 shoes hibernating alone at the moment... for example - i ripped the arse right out of eat out to help out when it was on in glasgow we are not allowed friends / family in our homes and pubs and restaurants have closed so ive recently become a great fan of meeting friends 1 on 1 for brunch (when normally i wouldn't surface til after lunch at weekends and it would be groups of friends and pub meetings) i am going out and i am meeting people albeit within the reduced guidelines ... i just think there is a difference between adapting your social life to fit the rules, and bending the rules to fit your social life ( ie ordering food you wont eat just so you can get a swally) | |||
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"https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18812187.lancashire-pub-owner-will-now-sell-meals-1p-can-stay-open-tier-3-restrictions/ Ships & giggles in Preston is serving 1p meals, I wonder if this will catch on in other venues
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker" A rather simplistic argument | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument " that's so its clear for the simpletons... | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument " Simplistic is to be expected from them. It’s what they do. | |||
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"34% of employees have been asked to defraud the furlough system by their companies by being asked to return to work while being furloughed. HM Revenue & Customs has estimated that between 5 and 10 per cent of £39 billion in payments made under the Treasury’s job retention scheme are likely to have been claimed fraudulently. That's up to nearly 4 billion. "There will be a few vacancies in HMRC's when all this is over | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument " Yes it's quite simple, no need for complications just do it. | |||
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"Ive been wondering,how can he make any form of profit form selling the meal at 1p.Must sell one hell of a lot of drinks to break even. But good luck to him. I've wondered that too.
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument Yes it's quite simple, no need for complications just do it. " And when it doesnt work they can say..well it's your fault | |||
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"https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/18812187.lancashire-pub-owner-will-now-sell-meals-1p-can-stay-open-tier-3-restrictions/ Ships & giggles in Preston is serving 1p meals, I wonder if this will catch on in other venues
This could be great for the homeless, where else could they get a meal so cheap"As I said not so jokingly in my earlier post they won’t be able to move for pensioners. All you need is one copper outside to ensure he turns no one away & he’ll be broke in a week. S | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument Yes it's quite simple, no need for complications just do it. And when it doesnt work they can say..well it's your fault " That does seem to be your mantra | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument Yes it's quite simple, no need for complications just do it. And when it doesnt work they can say..well it's your fault That does seem to be your mantra" Well its the 1st time I said it..so you are probably right. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument Yes it's quite simple, no need for complications just do it. And when it doesnt work they can say..well it's your fault " Sorry, you've completely lost me there Just for clarity, people meeting up for a few drinks may or may not be illegal in that area, meeting up with a few friends for drinks under the guise of having a meal isnt in the spirit of the guidelines and possibly illegal. Don't see what could be more simple. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument Yes it's quite simple, no need for complications just do it. And when it doesnt work they can say..well it's your fault Sorry, you've completely lost me there Just for clarity, people meeting up for a few drinks may or may not be illegal in that area, meeting up with a few friends for drinks under the guise of having a meal isnt in the spirit of the guidelines and possibly illegal. Don't see what could be more simple." What I meant was..the OP said dont break the rules and this will be over. But if the rules dont work..that wont be the case. | |||
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"The fact is - covid cases didn’t rise exponentially when they re-opened either retail or the hospitality industry - they rose when they re-opened schools/education. My daughter is in year 11 and doing her GCSE’s next summer - so not for a moment am I suggesting they abandon/shut down education. What I’m saying is that ‘punishing’ the hospitality industry to offset the huge rise in cases caused by re-opening education will have minimal effect however draconian the rules are!" Nail head etc And if the rules make no difference they will simply say,well people were breaking them. | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument Yes it's quite simple, no need for complications just do it. And when it doesnt work they can say..well it's your fault Sorry, you've completely lost me there Just for clarity, people meeting up for a few drinks may or may not be illegal in that area, meeting up with a few friends for drinks under the guise of having a meal isnt in the spirit of the guidelines and possibly illegal. Don't see what could be more simple." So it the potential lack of jaw movement not chewing that leads to the increased risk of contracting/spreading the virus, gotchya | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument Yes it's quite simple, no need for complications just do it. And when it doesnt work they can say..well it's your fault Sorry, you've completely lost me there Just for clarity, people meeting up for a few drinks may or may not be illegal in that area, meeting up with a few friends for drinks under the guise of having a meal isnt in the spirit of the guidelines and possibly illegal. Don't see what could be more simple. So it the potential lack of jaw movement not chewing that leads to the increased risk of contracting/spreading the virus, gotchya "No, the being there with friends in the first place, you're looking way to far past the point | |||
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"As an interesting aside, there is a Guardian report about London restaurants using a loophole in the rule of 6 by saying if it's a business meal, then groups of 30 can meet up without household restrictions applying as long as some form of business is discussed. " Isnt that was sunak did? | |||
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"so are they licenced to serve meals are they food hygiene kitchen passed doubt it " If it wasnt they would be shut down. | |||
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"As an interesting aside, there is a Guardian report about London restaurants using a loophole in the rule of 6 by saying if it's a business meal, then groups of 30 can meet up without household restrictions applying as long as some form of business is discussed. " Can't see these guidelines/lockdowns catching on in London anyway, that would be such an inconvenience to the govt & imagine the uproar when they don't follow their own guidance | |||
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"so are they licenced to serve meals are they food hygiene kitchen passed doubt it " If they are not then they are breaking rules | |||
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"Its the bending of the rules thats keeping this virus going. Nothing to be proud of. Dear oh dear .... heading for longer lockdowns if this catches on No different to what several of my friends and I were doing last week - ordering a meal each that we left on the next table untouched in order that we could enjoy a drink or 2. If any local business is open, I will support them. Well that’s just a stupid waste of food! Why not donate the cost to a charity that’s support the homeless or children? Wow ... because it had nothing to do with helping the economy and everything to do with finding the loophole that allowed them to sit and have a few drinks with mates #rant Yes very deserving of a large fine. Some people taking the piss hurts us all and will wreck businesses just because it's alright to meet your mates for a beer .... totally agree - everyone follow the rules and we might get out this mess quicker A rather simplistic argument Yes it's quite simple, no need for complications just do it. And when it doesnt work they can say..well it's your fault Sorry, you've completely lost me there Just for clarity, people meeting up for a few drinks may or may not be illegal in that area, meeting up with a few friends for drinks under the guise of having a meal isnt in the spirit of the guidelines and possibly illegal. Don't see what could be more simple. So it the potential lack of jaw movement not chewing that leads to the increased risk of contracting/spreading the virus, gotchya
No, the being there with friends in the first place, you're looking way to far past the point "In a area where your not allowed to mix indoors at all then yes indeed | |||
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"so are they licenced to serve meals are they food hygiene kitchen passed doubt it " It's Environmental Health who have been in discussions and allowed him to operate. | |||
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"The fact is - covid cases didn’t rise exponentially when they re-opened either retail or the hospitality industry - they rose when they re-opened schools/education. My daughter is in year 11 and doing her GCSE’s next summer - so not for a moment am I suggesting they abandon/shut down education. What I’m saying is that ‘punishing’ the hospitality industry to offset the huge rise in cases caused by re-opening education will have minimal effect however draconian the rules are!" Why do so many people fail to see this?? It's not opinion its backed up by the science and the governments own data from track and trace
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"34% of employees have been asked to defraud the furlough system by their companies by being asked to return to work while being furloughed. HM Revenue & Customs has estimated that between 5 and 10 per cent of £39 billion in payments made under the Treasury’s job retention scheme are likely to have been claimed fraudulently. That's up to nearly 4 billion.
There will be a few vacancies in HMRC's when all this is over "I was on the JRS and SEISS projects at HMRC. Normally, systems of that scale would take 8-12 MONTHS to design, implement and Test. 23 days for JRS. 44 days for SEISS. Testing was cut to bare minimum, but I can assure you that all applications were audited and archived. They have subsequently written and tested all the systems required to pick out fraudulent claims.. whether they can trace the applicants when they do start issuing repayment msndates remains to be seen. There was a lot of pressure to “get something out of the door” .. the team spent 14/15 hours a day for 3-5 weeks solid to get the schemes in place. Corners were cut, but would you sooner have something that can support the majority, or wait till a bulletproof And fully tested system was in place?? I suspect its the sane for track and trace. These things dont just get created!! | |||
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"34% of employees have been asked to defraud the furlough system by their companies by being asked to return to work while being furloughed. HM Revenue & Customs has estimated that between 5 and 10 per cent of £39 billion in payments made under the Treasury’s job retention scheme are likely to have been claimed fraudulently. That's up to nearly 4 billion.
There will be a few vacancies in HMRC's when all this is over
I was on the JRS and SEISS projects at HMRC. Normally, systems of that scale would take 8-12 MONTHS to design, implement and Test.
23 days for JRS. 44 days for SEISS.
Testing was cut to bare minimum, but I can assure you that all applications were audited and archived. They have subsequently written and tested all the systems required to pick out fraudulent claims.. whether they can trace the applicants when they do start issuing repayment msndates remains to be seen.
There was a lot of pressure to “get something out of the door” .. the team spent 14/15 hours a day for 3-5 weeks solid to get the schemes in place. Corners were cut, but would you sooner have something that can support the majority, or wait till a bulletproof And fully tested system was in place??
I suspect its the sane for track and trace. These things dont just get created!!
"I think you misunderstood what I meant. I meant because there has been such a push to get things out the door..once this is over there will be a huge drive to investigate those fraudulent claims. Therefore more jobs. | |||
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