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"https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/gyms-liverpool-city-region-reopen-19139097 Looks like they're reopening Friday when Manchester go into tier 3 as they've finally agreed to standardise the tiers. I shall continue to not use them like but I'm made up common sense prevailed for this one time so far in this catastrofail!! "  | |||
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"https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/gyms-liverpool-city-region-reopen-19139097 Looks like they're reopening Friday when Manchester go into tier 3 as they've finally agreed to standardise the tiers. I shall continue to not use them like but I'm made up common sense prevailed for this one time so far in this catastrofail!! "Knew you'd be made up with this one Lionel!  | |||
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"https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/gyms-liverpool-city-region-reopen-19139097 Looks like they're reopening Friday when Manchester go into tier 3 as they've finally agreed to standardise the tiers. I shall continue to not use them like but I'm made up common sense prevailed for this one time so far in this catastrofail!!
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"https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/gyms-liverpool-city-region-reopen-19139097 Looks like they're reopening Friday when Manchester go into tier 3 as they've finally agreed to standardise the tiers. I shall continue to not use them like but I'm made up common sense prevailed for this one time so far in this catastrofail!! "  | |||
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"The decision to close the gyms in Liverpool looks to me more like a deflection now given talks were taking place with both Lancashire and Liverpool at the same time.. Or was it and is it the case that there is no base line national plan from the government for this tier system so that certain things common to all regions do not have to be 'negotiated' with every one.. " The gmnt said it was a local decision and when challenged by the council to prove it,they backed down. Another shining example of integrity. | |||
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"The decision to close the gyms in Liverpool looks to me more like a deflection now given talks were taking place with both Lancashire and Liverpool at the same time.. Or was it and is it the case that there is no base line national plan from the government for this tier system so that certain things common to all regions do not have to be 'negotiated' with every one.. The gmnt said it was a local decision and when challenged by the council to prove it,they backed down. Another shining example of integrity." It's bad governance, another example which has been evident throughout.. | |||
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"The decision to close the gyms in Liverpool looks to me more like a deflection now given talks were taking place with both Lancashire and Liverpool at the same time.. Or was it and is it the case that there is no base line national plan from the government for this tier system so that certain things common to all regions do not have to be 'negotiated' with every one.. The gmnt said it was a local decision and when challenged by the council to prove it,they backed down. Another shining example of integrity. It's bad governance, another example which has been evident throughout.." Should have a sweep on the 1st person to say it's an example of the gmnt being 'fliexible' | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled?" Good question...bet he won't ! | |||
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"Not quite true: Published 12 October 2020 From: Prime Minister's Office, 10 Downing Street 'To create local consensus behind this more severe action, the government will work with local leaders on how individual areas should go beyond this baseline, which may include measures such as the closure of gyms, casinos, and leisure centres'. So a Local Authority decision essentially. But Glad your Gym is open again "Standard. | |||
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"Not quite true: Published 12 October 2020 From: Prime Minister's Office, 10 Downing Street 'To create local consensus behind this more severe action, the government will work with local leaders on how individual areas should go beyond this baseline, which may include measures such as the closure of gyms, casinos, and leisure centres'. So a Local Authority decision essentially. But Glad your Gym is open again
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !" He probably won't have it quashed unless he makes an application/plea to the Court. Bearing in mind it was illegal to open at the time. | |||
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"Not quite true: Published 12 October 2020 From: Prime Minister's Office, 10 Downing Street 'To create local consensus behind this more severe action, the government will work with local leaders on how individual areas should go beyond this baseline, which may include measures such as the closure of gyms, casinos, and leisure centres'. So a Local Authority decision essentially. But Glad your Gym is open again "* Not a local decision at all - the key phrase here is "beyond this baseline" - which may include gyms if the government decides so.. The baseline is set by the government and anything beyond that may be set locally. | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !" ..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations?" The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. " You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening. | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening."
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening.
It's between him and his donors."Every penny is going to mental health charities | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening.
It's between him and his donors.
Every penny is going to mental health charities "I've followed Nick on Facebook and was so happy to see his victory post earlier. He can use my donation to buy himself a few well deserved pints | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening.
It's between him and his donors.
Every penny is going to mental health charities
I've followed Nick on Facebook and was so happy to see his victory post earlier. He can use my donation to buy himself a few well deserved pints "He was on the radio before..said it's all going to local charities
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening.
It's between him and his donors.
Every penny is going to mental health charities
I've followed Nick on Facebook and was so happy to see his victory post earlier. He can use my donation to buy himself a few well deserved pints
He was on the radio before..said it's all going to local charities
Imagine being that twisted you inside,you would ask where it would go?"Some people are just cunts He's done something amazing and has raised a good wedge for an excellent cause in the process What a guy | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening.
It's between him and his donors.
Every penny is going to mental health charities
I've followed Nick on Facebook and was so happy to see his victory post earlier. He can use my donation to buy himself a few well deserved pints
He was on the radio before..said it's all going to local charities
Imagine being that twisted you inside,you would ask where it would go?
Some people are just cunts
He's done something amazing and has raised a good wedge for an excellent cause in the process
What a guy "Hats off to him..he said he had been proper stressed. | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening.
It's between him and his donors.
Every penny is going to mental health charities
I've followed Nick on Facebook and was so happy to see his victory post earlier. He can use my donation to buy himself a few well deserved pints
He was on the radio before..said it's all going to local charities
Imagine being that twisted you inside,you would ask where it would go?"Don't think it's that unreasonable to enquire where your donation is going if the fund is not going to be used for it's original purpose . In this case you may be more than happy with its alternative use, however I may have reservations about having donated or pledged money if it is going to be used for something I would not have originally donated to. | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening.
It's between him and his donors.
Every penny is going to mental health charities
I've followed Nick on Facebook and was so happy to see his victory post earlier. He can use my donation to buy himself a few well deserved pints
He was on the radio before..said it's all going to local charities
Imagine being that twisted you inside,you would ask where it would go?
Don't think it's that unreasonable to enquire where your donation is going if the fund is not going to be used for it's original purpose .
In this case you may be more than happy with its alternative use, however I may have reservations about having donated or pledged money if it is going to be used for something I would not have originally donated to."If you donated.. Not sure the person making the point earlier will have done tbh, you? Not sure if the facility exists to give people back their donations myself, happy to be educated of course.. Someone gave say a fiver or a couple of quid how much would it cost to return that? | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening.
It's between him and his donors.
Every penny is going to mental health charities
I've followed Nick on Facebook and was so happy to see his victory post earlier. He can use my donation to buy himself a few well deserved pints
He was on the radio before..said it's all going to local charities
Imagine being that twisted you inside,you would ask where it would go?
Don't think it's that unreasonable to enquire where your donation is going if the fund is not going to be used for it's original purpose .
In this case you may be more than happy with its alternative use, however I may have reservations about having donated or pledged money if it is going to be used for something I would not have originally donated to."Did you donate? | |||
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"I wonder whether that gym owner who refused to close will have his fine cancelled? Good question...bet he won't !..and will he return the £40k plus in donations? The crowd funding was and is for a potential legal challenge to the closure of all gyms in Liverpool, he's been very open on the local media about that and has the support of the national chains who whilst they closed their own are behind him and others in seeking clarity.. The fines are not being taken out of that fund, again he has said so on the record.. Tbh whether there will be a challenge will be for him and others to decide and what happens to the fund will no doubt be part of that.. Perhaps they may use it to help food banks who knows.. You can tell a lot about people on here cant you? One of the gyms closely with keeping kids of the street was closed. The gmnt have once again shown how incompetent they are,gyms have been closed for no good reason,possibly going out of business .and people are more concerned with charity money being repaid. Very eye opening.
It's between him and his donors.
Every penny is going to mental health charities
I've followed Nick on Facebook and was so happy to see his victory post earlier. He can use my donation to buy himself a few well deserved pints
He was on the radio before..said it's all going to local charities
Imagine being that twisted you inside,you would ask where it would go?
Don't think it's that unreasonable to enquire where your donation is going if the fund is not going to be used for it's original purpose .
In this case you may be more than happy with its alternative use, however I may have reservations about having donated or pledged money if it is going to be used for something I would not have originally donated to.
If you donated..
Not sure the person making the point earlier will have done tbh, you?
Not sure if the facility exists to give people back their donations myself, happy to be educated of course..
Someone gave say a fiver or a couple of quid how much would it cost to return that?
"I'm not sure... I guess if it was an adhoc type arrangement you would probably say bye bye to your donation.. If the fund was arranged through the likes of gofundme then it might have stricter rules on the use of the fund and what happens if the original purpose of the fund changes. | |||
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"Not quite true: Published 12 October 2020 From: Prime Minister's Office, 10 Downing Street 'To create local consensus behind this more severe action, the government will work with local leaders on how individual areas should go beyond this baseline, which may include measures such as the closure of gyms, casinos, and leisure centres'. So a Local Authority decision essentially. But Glad your Gym is open again
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Not a local decision at all - the key phrase here is "beyond this baseline" - which may include gyms if the government decides so..
The baseline is set by the government and anything beyond that may be set locally."Nope. Read it properly: 'which MAY include measures such as the closure of gyms, casinos, and leisure centres'. Which means they weren't included to start with.  | |||
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"Not quite true: Published 12 October 2020 From: Prime Minister's Office, 10 Downing Street 'To create local consensus behind this more severe action, the government will work with local leaders on how individual areas should go beyond this baseline, which may include measures such as the closure of gyms, casinos, and leisure centres'. So a Local Authority decision essentially. But Glad your Gym is open again
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Not a local decision at all - the key phrase here is "beyond this baseline" - which may include gyms if the government decides so..
The baseline is set by the government and anything beyond that may be set locally.
Nope. Read it properly:
'which MAY include measures such as the closure of gyms, casinos, and leisure centres'.
Which means they weren't included to start with. "The council sat down with the gmnt last night If it was totally upto the local gmnt,then surely no meeting was required? | |||
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"as it says . . . the government will work with local leaders on how individual areas should go beyond this baseline" You have been saying all week the local council made the decision? | |||
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"as it says . . . the government will work with local leaders on how individual areas should go beyond this baseline You have been saying all week the local council made the decision?" There is another thread on the forum proving it too - go find it. And enjoy your Gym. | |||
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"as it says . . . the government will work with local leaders on how individual areas should go beyond this baseline You have been saying all week the local council made the decision? There is another thread on the forum proving it too - go find it. And enjoy your Gym." | |||
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"To quote another poster . . . 'Liverpool local leaders added gyms, to the shut down list not Boris Johnson. Because critical care beds are full. Tier 3 basics but local leaders can enhance it' "Obviously why they had the meeting with the gmnt last night. | |||
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"To quote another poster . . . 'Liverpool local leaders added gyms, to the shut down list not Boris Johnson. Because critical care beds are full. Tier 3 basics but local leaders can enhance it'
Obviously why they had the meeting with the gmnt last night."It was that to tell the gov reopening them so how much if the money do we need to return | |||
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"To quote another poster . . . 'Liverpool local leaders added gyms, to the shut down list not Boris Johnson. Because critical care beds are full. Tier 3 basics but local leaders can enhance it'
Obviously why they had the meeting with the gmnt last night.
It was that to tell the gov reopening them so how much if the money do we need to return " | |||
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